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New in Toronto real estate: The St. Clements
The St. Clements is supposed to be about old and new, stainless steel and stained glass, and — oh, and, uh, a $5,000 deposit. A Sonterlan Corporation project in association with Brad J. Lamb Realty, The St. Clements is a new condo project set inside (and beside) the historic St. Clement's Church on Jones Avenue in Leslieville. The church itself will house 18 (mostly two-storey) condo lofts, with a (to-be-constructed) modern building right beside with room for another 22. Gothic and new, and connected by a two-storey glass bridge — like a fairy tale, isn't it? Here's a closer look at The St. Clements.
SPECS
Address: 173 Jones Ave
Exterior: Heritage church and modern addition
Number of floors: 4
Number of units: 40 (18 in the church, 22 in the addition)
Unit sizes (in square feet): 613 - 1339
Ceiling height: Up to 9'
Price range $342,900 - $790,900
Parking: $29,000 (For units 775 sq. ft. or larger)
Locker: $3,500
Maintenance: $0.52/ sf
Maintenance fees exclude: Hydro and water
Architect: Turner Fleischer
Amenities: N/A
Expected occupancy: June 2014
THE GOOD
On the one hand, it's nice to see a century-old Leslieville landmark preserved in such a way that it will garner daily admiration (if only from its inhabitants, but nevermind). On the other hand, I wouldn't exactly call another condo project (especially in Toronto's fatigued real estate market) terribly romantic. But hey — at least it's not a Tim Hortons! Sorry Allenby Theatre. And despite the inevitable naysayers, I still think it is pretty cool to be able to own a piece of a historic Toronto property. And yes, in case you were wondering, the Kool-Aid at the sales centre launch was delicious, thanks.
The suites themselves boast a rarity in terms of Toronto new builds: actual space. While some other hilarious projects will have suites as small as 278 square feet (those guys at Concert Properties sure are jokers), St. Clements lofts start at a very reasonable 613 square feet. And the prices aren't too bad either (keeping in mind that the project officially launched less than 24 hours ago, and probably will rise). Depending on the unit, of course, you could be looking at paying somewhere around $560 to $600 per square foot, which isn't too bad considering the cost of some of the other condos on the market.
The area, too, seems the perfect example of still-growing-but-not-done. A little further south and you'll find yourself in the terribly trendy part of Leslieville that comes with prices that reflect the terribly trendy. And a little further north, you're in Gerrard Square Mall territory, which is probably a ways away from a significant urban upgrade (some like to call it "gentrification" ...whatever). Here you're bound to catch the waves from lower Leslieville without paying the literal prices. In terms of transportation, there's the Jones Avenue bus and Gerrard Streetcar a step away, plus Queen Street not more than a 10-minute walk. And while there's not a whole lot in terms of shopping or eats on Jones Avenue proper (it'll come), there's still more than enough close by.
THE BAD
Time to get real, unfortunately. While the St. Clements Church does provide a lovely-looking shell, that's all it is. A shell. All suites — including those in the church — will have 9' smooth ceilings. Yes, the stunning wood cladding of that pitched roof interior will be covered to make room for flat ceilings and hanging Home Depot pendants. You're pretty much getting a conventional modern condo with an extraordinary exterior. But inside, it's all the same. And lest we forget the 22 units that aren't even in the church itself, what do you call those? Heritage by association? I'm not sure. But it does strike me as significantly less awesome (a realtor term, I'm sure) to live in an "inspired contemporary building" beside a heritage property than actually inside a heritage property.
Many of the units, too, come with a few significant limitations. For one, most of the "heritage loft" suites (read: the ones in the church) have only a French balcony, if a balcony at all. The reason is obvious, of course, but it's nevertheless a limitation for those who can't imagine a summer without an excess of meals made on the barbeque. The "modern lofts" on the other hand, all offer balconies or garden patios, but many of the bedrooms (as laid out in current plans) are positioned without windows. Apparently, sliding doors are supposed to suffice instead. I'm not amused.
THE VERDICT
Depends largely on what you've vowed to never do inside a church.
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CREWMEN & Co.
I'll spend my $500,000 on a nice chunk of land somewhere, thank you Brad Lamb (Freed, et al.)
It's too bad they couldn't incorporate more of the church because... it would be hilarious to say you'd done *those things* in the private of your own home AND a church.
I'll happily rent a shoebox. But I sure wouldn't BUY one and only own the right to use/sell the air between the walls (plus the building's inevitable liabilities).
When the current generation of condo buyers decides to have families, look for them to flee en masse.
As a condo owner, I can tell you, it is quite harrowing. Where, for example, do I put my lawnmower??
It's properly scaled for the neighbourhood and, as the author pointed out, the unit sizes aren't insanely small. Consider my thumbs up.
Whatever works for you, friend. I'm doing some woodworking in my garage this weekend, if you want to join. You can also help me can the last of the tomatoes.
In the meantime, this definitely looks like a rush job (the building AND the article). Neither looks like they were very well thought out and had a conclusion in mind before any attention was paid to the details.
How old are you kiddo? Do I need to explain?