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New in Toronto real estate: Canary District Condos

Posted by Robyn Urback / May 31, 2012

Canary District CondosEarlier this month, the West Don Lands got a little non-Pan Am attention with the official launch of the Canary District Condominiums project. (Well no, that's not entirely true — it was mentioned that athletes will settle there during the Games, but nevermind.) Stretching from Front to Mill streets, the project is alleged to be the "largest urban village in Toronto," composed of four buildings that hug a raised interior courtyard. A joint venture between Dundee Kilmer and Waterfront Toronto, the 369-suite community will be a stone's throw from the Don River Park and a massive new YMCA facility.

On the heels of the recent launch, I decided to take a more in-depth look at the good and bad of the Canary District condos. No, I don't have my real estate license, but I do have a few qualities that perhaps render me more adept for some critical assessment: I'm twenty-something, an experienced and disgruntled renter, and I've been known to wistfully peruse MLS listings for hours, dreaming of a sudden condo-bubble crash (sorry, current owners). Here's a closer look at the Canary District Condos, but first, some details:

Canary District Condos TorontoSPECS

Number of units: 369

Number of floors: 11

Unit sizes (in square feet): 405 to 1148

Starting price: $230k+

Parking: $35k (Reserved for 2 Bedroom and 1 Bedroom + Den suites)

Storage locker: $3,500

Maintenance: $0.51/sf (Additional maintenance fees for locker and parking)

Hydro included?: No

Amenities: Barbeque area, party and billiards room, private courtyard

Expected occupancy: March 2016

Canary DistrictTHE GOOD

No doubt about it, the West Don Lands has supreme up-and-coming potential. With the Pan Am Games set to arrive in 2015, the overhaul is already underway with construction of the 18 acre Don River Park, a massive new YMCA facility, and a new George Brown student residence.

But those are just the big projects. I suspect plenty of shops and cafes will start to gravitate toward the area with the influx of activity, and developers have already confirmed the revitalization of the beloved Canary Restaurant. The condos will also be a short walk from the Distillery District, but far enough away from the more hectic downtown buzz.

Canary District TorontoTHE BAD

Despite the prospective boons of a spot at Front and Cherry, TTC access right now is abysmal. We have, however, been promised a shiny new streetcar line and construction is already underway. Lest the words "disaster" or "insufficient funds" derail the project, the access shortfalls of the community may be relieved by move-in day. We'll see...

Canary District Condominiums TorontoAnd dismiss it as a personal pet peeve, but I loathe the open-concept kitchens that seem to plague most new Toronto condos. I understand that a wall of appliances is intended to optimize space, but I'll take a bona fide kitchen (with actual counter space!) every time. Unfortunately, the Canary District Condos are among those touting said pseudo-kitchens. Sigh.

Canary District CondosTHE VERDICT

Seeing as the majority of Canary District Condos dwellers will be reliant on the TTC (especially with parking spots limited to certain suites), this one really boils down to the Cherry Street streetcar. Sadly, if you want to snap up a one-bedroom (primarily those under 500 sf) at a preview price of under $300k, you'll have to act before you know whether the tracks will be ready for use.

Canary District CondominiumsThe area looks like it really will become a multi-use destination (as opposed to, say, Liberty Village, which is plush primarily just with nine-to-fivers, in addition to its condo residents), but that all depends on access. I'm not optimistic, but the TTC is long, long overdue for an efficiency surprise, right?

Canary District CondominiumsWhat do you think? Would you live here? Add your comments to the thread below.

Discussion

30 Comments

almost / May 31, 2012 at 09:36 am
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Still need to clean up the stretch of eastern from Parliament to the DVP.

Lose the Jeep and Volvo dealerships, the storage building, and a few other things to make that stretch somewhat more pedestrian friendly.

Just don't encroach on my loft at Eastern & Broadview, and we'll be good :)
ache replying to a comment from almost / May 31, 2012 at 09:41 am
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Did your farmer dad from Goderich buy you your condo?
Dave replying to a comment from almost / May 31, 2012 at 09:46 am
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The city will take tax paying businesses over you any day.
TJ / May 31, 2012 at 09:52 am
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I wouldn't live here. TTC is kinda but not really at doorstep. It's pretty expensive in my opinion at about $570/sq ft. for a new community area with no track record and no existing amenities/facilities and where it used to be a wasteland. Yes, they are coming soon and so are the facilities. Homeless people still "live" around here and shady business around here still occurs. Maybe it'll all be gone by the time everything is up and running but its a pretty penny to pay now for everything else to happen later. For the same/similar amount of about $570/sq ft., there are many better places around.
almost replying to a comment from ache / May 31, 2012 at 09:58 am
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He perished in the tornado up there last year.

But thanks.
ttc coming / May 31, 2012 at 10:19 am
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I work at King and Sumach/Cherry and the streetcar should be at the Canary sooner rather than later. The last 3 months of construction have been pretty intense to prepare for laying tracks, and they actually forced my boss to sell land to them 2 years ago (they needed more to make the turn on King). Not that it is the first time the city has put money into things and then backed out, but this has been in the works since Pan Am was announced.
communal areas don't work / May 31, 2012 at 10:22 am
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They are wasting space with so much area in the middle. Sure the local residents could use a little private space, but like Liberty Village shows if outsiders cannot get in the area just won't flourish. Better to use that around the outside for cafés and businesses with some exposure.
Socrates Apallas / May 31, 2012 at 10:23 am
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Its going to be a great place to live - They’re redesigning Front street with modern living in mind. Reminiscent of any popular European city, We’ll have widen pedestrian friendly sidewalks with rows of cafes, shops and restaurants. Shady trees, cobble stone roads and space to lounge. This is all next to the already desirable Distillery District. Front street will spill right into the new don river park. It’s going to be incredible!

Transit - Its sort of commuters mecca, many roads intertwine all throughout this neighbourhood. Transit is easy, there are several routes running along king and queen. No resident will be more than 5 mins from transit. If you drive the on-ramps to the dvp and Gardner expressway are literally right here. Even The Bayview extension now spills into the park. Or… We’re so close you walk to the financial district in less than 20mins.
Johnny Tronno / May 31, 2012 at 10:26 am
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I'm leery of any development that concentrates more on selling the common areas than the actual suites.

It's the only way they can justify charging you over $300k for 500 square feet. PLUS $35k for Parking, PLUS $3500 for Storage.
It's ludicrous!! WOW

You can't even browse their website unless you register.

And since when did canaries 'soar'?
Cyril Sneer replying to a comment from Johnny Tronno / May 31, 2012 at 10:48 am
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Right on. Whenever I see these ads that are chock full of snazzy images of the common areas while featuring only minimal glimpses of the suites it immediately triggers my scepticism switch.
Socrates Apallas / May 31, 2012 at 10:56 am
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The Canary District is only one part of the master planned community of the West Don Lands - The overall vision is 6000 new residences, At least one public school, two childcare centres, new retail strip on Front Street, a new state of the art YMCA, George Browns first ever student residence and of course…Don River Park and the unique Underpass Park! - Basically, they’re filling in the lower east end from the St.Lawrence Market – Riverside/Leslieville.
WEGGG replying to a comment from Socrates Apallas / May 31, 2012 at 11:04 am
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...and stay out of Riverside!
Rick / May 31, 2012 at 11:17 am
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So many condos popping up, but transportation throughout the city and GTA is still such an issue. Why have a fancy condo in the city, but still have limited transportation options?
I live in a storage locker replying to a comment from Johnny Tronno / May 31, 2012 at 11:32 am
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$38,500 for parking and storage isn't really that unreasonable. Friend of mine paid $55,000 for the same at one of the Pinnacle buildings. I agree builders are too eager to sell you the "lifestyle" rather than the unit. Glad I bought in an older building whose only common amenity is the front door.
Lioness / May 31, 2012 at 11:53 am
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I've been getting a lot of spam email from the developers trying to sell me condos. Sounds as though they are a little worried. I have no idea how they got any of my emails. I don't shop for condos.
Ratpick / May 31, 2012 at 12:43 pm
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I think this project would suit somebody who likes hotel lobbies and cruise ship decks.

With condos, the shared amenities are the first to be cut when the board is wrestling with rising costs.
Никита / May 31, 2012 at 12:48 pm
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Why this "modern" style is so popular in Toronto?
Most of the buildings look like glass boxes)
Ratpick replying to a comment from Никита / May 31, 2012 at 01:15 pm
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"Why this "modern" style is so popular in Toronto?
Most of the buildings look like glass boxes)"

It is popular because it is inexpensive to build and because the expanses of glass make buyers forget that these condos are tiny.

The relatively short life and poor energy efficiency of glass walls are problems that the owners will deal with down the road.

Robert replying to a comment from Никита / May 31, 2012 at 03:24 pm
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Style of the day, as with any era you get a lot of the same until the next 'style' comes along. The glass block is pretty well done with, as you see here different materials textures and design elements are in use.
All buildings no matter how far back you go is a box, it is the decorative elements that change over time. Personalty I find when you try a reproduction is looks cheap and tacky. Some European citys will not allow an addition or new building that is reproduction, new designs are to complement the old.
seanm / May 31, 2012 at 09:49 pm
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Newsflash: people like windows, and views, hence the popularity of glass facades. Glass can be cheap, and glass can be very expensive. Deriding anything glass as being cheap/product of greedy developers is just plain ignorant.
Eric26 / May 31, 2012 at 11:43 pm
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Glass is great. Big, floor to ceiling windows make you forget that you live in a glorified shoe box sometimes. There should be a bylaw that requires glass to be insulated though. All the cheap glass curtain wall on condos isn't doing much for the environment.
agentsmith replying to a comment from Eric26 / June 1, 2012 at 10:09 am
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"There should be a bylaw that requires glass to be insulated though."
First someone would have to invent a way to insulate glass.
Abe Froman / June 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm
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All those white people in the pictures seem to be enjoying themselves. Can't wait to see what they build for everyone else!
Torono / June 1, 2012 at 03:39 pm
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The whole city is condos, it's boring. The "house" Is slowly fading away. When they do build homes, they're made out of some of the cheapest materials i've ever seen. I'd know because my father has worked on many. Told me it takes about 3 months in total to build a home(not joking). As for the condo, i guess it makes sense for some, but myself, i wonder what kind of a community is there? Not much of one. Everything is artificial.
seanm replying to a comment from agentsmith / June 1, 2012 at 05:09 pm
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Insulated glass does exist, and most (if not all) new condos use it. The glass panels are double pane with an inert gas in between.
Alex / June 4, 2012 at 11:13 am
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Those don't show what the interior of the condos look like, just the kitchen and bathroom. They really shouldn't have included the kitchen photo though, that is one awful kitchen, zero counter space!

The centre park area makes no sense either. The vast majority of it is paved, so it looks like it's designed for strolling through rather than having a picnic or sunbathing, etc. But it is in the middle of the condo, so there is nothing there for anyone to stroll to. Won't it just end up empty all the time?

I think I would pass on this development. The condos seem way overpriced, and the common areas just come off as cold and empty in the pictures (why does one girl have silver hair? She is a young girl, with shiny silver hair?).
TJ / June 4, 2012 at 01:24 pm
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Glasses is, interestingly, considered environmental friendly. As someone mentioned above, most glass "walls" are double paned with inert gas in between that is suppose to act as insulation. Does it provide as much insulation and retain its heat/cool better than a wall consisting of actual insulation (foam or otherwise), brick/concrete, drywall and waterproofing materials? No but because a double pane of glass replaces and uses much less material (and uses less energy to manufacture, produce, and ship) than brick/concrete, insulation, drywall, waterproofing materials, and such, it's considered environmentally friendly.
Joey Jojo Junior / June 4, 2012 at 03:26 pm
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This is actually a very attractive design! It'll take a while for the neighbourhood to turn into much, but there's plenty of time before move-in.

I think the reasoning behind the "glass boxes" has to do with the fact that glass is transparent, allowing you to view the outside world. Also, it's generally hard to find spherically shaped furniture.
Aaron replying to a comment from Joey Jojo Junior / June 5, 2012 at 03:17 am
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The reasoning behind glass boxes are a) floor to ceiling glass makes your shitty 700 square seem much bigger and b) glass window wall is the cheapest method of construction. The developer is selling amenities and amenities are the first to go when maintenance fees begin to skyrocket due to glass failure and cheap construction. But hey, I'm catching that Pan Am fever, aren't you?
MaureenV / July 5, 2012 at 11:36 am
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Can't wait to move here and buy from Equilibrium.

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