Max Scherzer details another time he blew up at Toronto Blue Jays manager John Schneider

Everyone loved Max Scherzer's hilarious heated playoff mound visit with Toronto Blue Jays manager John Schneider.

With the Blue Jays trailing the Seattle Mariners in the ALDS two games to one, Scherzer lived up to the pressure in Game 4, pitching 5.2 innings while giving up just two runs in what ended up being an 8-2 victory.

We all remember the unforgettable exchange between Scherzer and Schneider in the fifth inning, but apparently there was another argument not caught on camera.

Max Scherzer was NOT coming out of this game 😳

Facing his next hitter, he picks up the strikeout to end the 5th! pic.twitter.com/EbVoGMOno8

— MLB (@MLB) October 17, 2025

On Wednesday, the 41-year-old said there was an even bigger blowup between the two just minutes afterwards in the dugout. 

Scherzer explained that the plan was to pull him right after the fifth inning in favour of Louis Varland, during an interview with Nick Alberga and Jay Rosehill on Leafs Nation.

That didn't happen, as Scherzer pitched in the sixth inning after the fiery three-time Cy Young winner lost it on Schneider for a second time.

"Whatever I said on the mound was nothing compared to what I actually said to him in the clubhouse there," said a laughing Scherzer. "I actually completely unloaded on him to stay in that game in that moment. You didn't even see what that really got down into.

"There was some real colourful language to [keep] me in the game."

Max Scherzer talking about his ALCS showdown with John Schneider is my new favourite genre of content 😂🔥@TLNdc | @Jay_D_Rosehill

He gave us the entire story —with even more details 👀 pic.twitter.com/iWQNjuj3AI

— Nick Alberga (@thegoldenmuzzy) November 26, 2025

"Everybody enjoys that vibe. They always want the pitcher to want it," Scherzer said. "When somebody wants the ball, everybody feeds off that. That's a good feature, I think. For me when it's happened in my career, I've typically had success in those situations.

"It's happened several other times, and every other time it's worked. I think it's because it's a mindset. You want the ball and [want to] have that confidence that you're going to get it done. Then you do, and it just kind of feeds to everybody else on the team."

Scherzer went on to say that he doesn't plan on retiring, and didn't close the door on a return to the Blue Jays. Those comments came before the signing of Dylan Cease, however, which could impact a potential return.

With a starting rotation of Kevin Gausman, Trey Yesavage, Shane Bieber, Jose Berrios, and Cease, Scherzer would likely need to agree to be a bullpen arm if he's going to return.