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Mansion aim to reinvent Toronto's dance party scene
For the past three years, Mansion, a.k.a. Konrad, Nancy, Matt and Tom Mansion, have been gaining speed as passionate DIY promoters in Toronto's electronic scene. They've gained a loyal following, and have some big plans for the future.
The group is no stranger to our music pages--the chill and approachable foursome's future bass and rave events in non-traditional venues have been highlighted in reviews (1, 2, 3), and Mansion were recently highlighted in a group of up and coming Toronto promoters.
Toronto's underground event coordinators do a lot with a little (plus some help from their friends), and we're curious about how they got going, what keeps them motivated, and their goals for the future. Who better to discuss the highs and lows of DIY with than a group of friends who are, in their own words, "not just dirty promoters"?
How did Mansion begin?
Konrad Droeske (KD) It started a few years ago: Matt and I used to throw house parties back at U of T, and Tom was living with us so we brought him on board. We started really small, booking parties at places like The Augusta House and other small conventional spaces in Kensington. Mostly locals nights filled with our friends and people who attracted our attention in Toronto.
We did some work with Embrace and were inspired by them, and decided to go out on our own. In the last year and a half, things started to really get going: we started doing bookings, we launched Happy Endings, and to me that's when Mansion became a serious thing.
Are you artists yourselves?
KD: I'm actually an engineer, so not really. Matt is too, but he can DJ.
Nancy Chen (NC): I'm kind of a musician, but not anymore--I used to play piano, flute and drums when I was young, now I'm more into just listening to music. I would love to get into DJing one day.
What was your involvement in the Toronto music scene before Mansion?
KD: We were all in university--we weren't club kids per say, but we went to lots of parties and lots of bars. The reason we started Mansion is we felt we'd developed a house party vibe and we wanted to bring that to venues around Toronto, and throw a different type of party where someone who's not necessarily comfortable going to King West or the club district will feel at home, at a place where you can still dance and listen to good music. That was our initial goal, but things obviously changed--they change every six months.
What's special about your DIY-style booking for these kinds of large parties in Toronto?
KD: Definitely the artists we're bringing here: we're able to cultivate something very different. There's a certain amount of excitement and novelty that accompanies our events--for example when you're entering a dim sum restaurant, a church, or even a warehouse. I think our particular generation wants to try something new every single time; we get bored really easily. Speaking for myself, going to the same place, even if there are different artists playing, I find there's there's a lack of effort involved.
Thomas Masmejean (TM): A lot of people can book a DJ, but we try to bring something else to each party, whether its the concept, visuals, lights, or sound system--all these small details that we pay attention to and that makes the party stand out.
KD: We've experimented with visuals, photo-booths--whenever we see a space we try to figure out what we can bring to it that's different than what everyone else is doing.
NC: Our crowd, the people that we bring out to our events, are youthful, creative, open-minded and just there to have a good time.
What are some drawbacks you've encountered?
NC: I think the biggest setback would be that we're booking a lot of rising artists who aren't yet well known. When we started Happy Endings, we were doing future bass--hip-hop-inspired electronic music--and for a while it wasn't very popular in Toronto. However, we've gained a following that has allowed us to experiment with other genres and artists.
KD: Yeah, building people's trust. Music changes so rapidly, too. We invest in artists we believe in, and people might not get it right away, but their tastes develop, along with ours. So we might upset some people at first, but they eventually come around--that's been our experience. There's also an inherent instability in booking non-traditional venues--obviously sometimes we've lost money.
How do you choose the artists you book?
NC: We have a lot of different resources, talk to a lot of different DJs, and people are always giving us tips on who is upcoming and who we should look out for. It's a balance between what people will find exciting and what's missing in Toronto.
KD: We have a very large group of people we work with, basically a collective of friends, local DJs, people like Ryan Hemsworth, Exeter and Kevin McPhee. Everyone is sharing music and mix-tapes, discussing artists, and suggesting events. It all comes together and we see what sticks combined with our own personal taste. We obviously want to lead, and strike a balance between what's new and interesting and what will be palatable.
Why is Mansion finding such a loyal following in Toronto?
KD: We have a really large group of people and a collective aspect, and we're always open to bringing people into the fold: asking people what they want to see, and what artists they'd like to come to Toronto.
TM: We don't compromise.
KD: Even if we know we're not going to make tons of money it's about the event and the long term--building our reputation and the community and building the scene.
NC: Our consistency. People know it's going to be a good party.
KD: The music, and taking the time to make sure people are having a good time and things are cool.
You put on multiple events every month. How do you keep from burning out?
TM: We have a variety of events, so after each type of party we have a month until the next one.
KD: We keep ourselves excited about our events: we obviously love the music we're bringing here. Because we're putting on events in such a wide variety of genres, I guess we're able to suck it up.
NC: We plan far ahead too, from conception to the final event, so we don't feel rushed. We already know what we'll be doing in October.
KD: From a more human point of view, we try to make each party fun. We don't want to run three or four small weeklies--we'll make sure it's a good one and that we're throwing events for 500 or 600 people instead of 200 to 300.
TM: Even for our monthly events, like Pop Kult, we'll have very different artists each month and it's a very different party.
KD: We party at all of our events. We're all still in our twenties. Hopefully as things develop we'll be able to hand over some of the front line stuff to the up and coming generation.
I heard you won't be able to host Happy Endings in the Forestview dim sum restaurant or in St-Stephen-in-the-Fields's church anymore. What are your future plans for Mansion? Do you have any desire to branch out further, for instance starting a label?
KD: Happy Endings is on hiatus--we've outgrown the Forestview, for sure--and I have hope that when the summer season ends for the restaurant it will come back. We didn't do anything illegal, rather they were worried about capacity issues. We're still keeping the Happy Endings spirit going on: Zebra Katz would have been a Happy Endings booking. As for the church--again, we obeyed all the rules, but the amount of publicity attracted some attention from clergy and church members.
NC: There's a lot of infrastructure that Toronto lacks to be a proper music city on an international level, so we have to find out whats missing and kind of fill in the gaps.
KD: We want to do everything, really. We want to own venues, we want to throw a festival, we want to start a label. We're trying to figure out what makes the most sense at the moment.
Where would you say the Toronto electronic scene lacks?
NC: There's no flagship artists who have started a label in Toronto, and no electronic labels, or at least not any very interesting electronic labels in Toronto.
KD: There are ones that are developing.
NC: Festivals, there are a lot of festivals this year...
KD: A lot of really cheesy mainstream festivals.
NC: Which are definitely needed in Toronto, but there has to be a well-curated festival as well.
KD: There's no Mutek here, there's no Sonar here, nothing on that kind of scale.
When do you think this will happen?
KD: The next three years (laughs)... we're still growing.
NC: We're still trying to lay the foundation and grow with the Toronto music industry until it reaches a size that would allow us to achieve our goals.
KD: It takes several hundred people that really care to bring a scene to that kind of level. A lot of projects from a lot of different people. We do what we can, we always reach out to people, and we encourage people to do the same and create more diversity; it's healthy.
What's the best place for fans to reach you?
KD: Tweet us.
TM: Come over.
Matt Eckensweiler (ME): Facebook.
K: You can hit us up on the guest-list, there's my email address there. We all have Facebook accounts; we're all extremely public on our Facebook accounts.
NC: We also always listen to new music that people send us.
What are your picks for NXNE?
KD: Purity Ring.
NC: DIIV.
TM: Zebra Katz.
You can check out the next Mansion event, Vogue with Zebra Katz and MikeQ, June 16th
at the Black Box Theatre, 1087 Queen St. W.
Is there a DIY music promoter you would like to see profiled on blogTO? Email us at editors [at] blogto [dotcom].
First four photos by Denise McMullin and final three courtesy of Mansion & Conrad McGee-Stocks.


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LOL bingo… Vancouver has New Forms, Basscoast and others MTL has Mutek, Piknik once a month… Toronto is DYING for something like that!
Looking forward to Zebra Katz & Mike Q this Saturday!
NC: There's no flagship artists who have started a label in Toronto, and no electronic labels, or at least not any very interesting electronic labels in Toronto.
KD: There are ones that are developing.
NC: Festivals, there are a lot of festivals this year...
KD: A lot of really cheesy mainstream festivals.
NC: Which are definitely needed in Toronto, but there has to be a well-curated festival as well.
KD: There's no Mutek here, there's no Sonar here, nothing on that kind of scale."
This just shows how young/new these kids are to the Toronto music scene, hell I knew everything when I started going out too. Regardless, do your thing guys.
PS love you nancy
KD: There are ones that are developing.
NC: Festivals, there are a lot of festivals this year...
KD: A lot of really cheesy mainstream festivals.
NC: Which are definitely needed in Toronto, but there has to be a well-curated festival as well.
KD: There's no Mutek here, there's no Sonar here, nothing on that kind of scale."
WE DO HAVE A FESTIVAL IN TORONTO LIKE MUTEK OR SONAR IT IS SMALL AND IN ITS FIRST YEAR BUT IT HAS THE FULL SUPPORT OF MUTEK AND IS EVEN BEING ADVERTISED BY THEM IN MONTREAL. TORONTOS INDEPENDANT AND NONPROFIT MUSIC FESTIVAL IS CALLED SOUND IN MOTION. IT INCLUDES A WHOLE WEEKEND OF SHOWS AND WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS SEMINARS AND TALKS ON ALL ASPECTS OF THE ELECTRONIC MUSIC COMMUNITY. SADLY MOST OF TORONTO IS MORE INTERESTED IN DIGITAL DREAMS AND HAVENT EVEN NOTICED WHAT WAS ONCE TO BE THE FIRST FESTIVAL FOR THE TORONTO SCENE. http://www.simtoronto.org/
HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE I KNOW I WILL BE :)
Fresh to the scene..
Why don't you name them? You're not really doing them any favours by being so ambiguous. Maybe that's part of the problem?
ps: mansion parties are actually FUN. We need MORE promters like them...
And calling digital dreams cheesy and mainstream shows disrespect to the legends of house music. Without Dubfire, Carlo Lio, Chus and Cebellos, Richie Hawtin, Steve Lawler etc. building the electronic scene over the last 20+ years, these kids would still be promoting Ill Scarlet.
Doing arts and crafts on the other hand is ~just doing arts and crafts~. ;) DIY is a feeling.
@Nancy Thx, see you at Venus X!
...... exactly. +1
fact is: good kids doing good things on their own terms.
And anyone who has been around long enough knows Live Nation brought in Ryan Kruger to run Electronic Nation. Don't know who he is? Figures. Also figures you would turn your nose up at the idea of Rogers being a sponsor. How far the Toronto scene has come to have legitimate sponsorship and funding to create real, European style outdoor festivals (which the Mansion kids themselves long for from their own comments in the interview above). Yet you guys act like you created the scene in Uni and are now the purveyors of all things electronic and cool in Toronto. Excuses my chuckle and eye roll.
Fact: There were promoters before you, and there will be promoters after you. You are not original, you are just continuing the work that has been laid down in this city by others.
You keep going to events that you perceive as "cool". I'll be dancing my face off to dubfire while your at home rolling up your pant legs getting ready to go listen to some norwegian post-dubstep uk garage fusion because someone told you its cool.
I think my first event put on by those guys was Destiny 9 in 1995, and they were already well established by that point. Those really were the bricklayers of these scene (among many, many others) who built the foundation everyone stands on today.
PS. The Toronto jungle/dnb scene has been an enormous influence on everything here since the 90's. I think it deserves credit were it's due.
http://youtu.be/h--d7OZSj1U
Don't get us wrong, we know we aren't the only electronic music promoters in Toronto and definitely not the first, we're very aware of what people are doing around us. We are just trying to create something that young people of today would identify with and embrace. It's not new or original, but tweaked to suit a new generation of electronic music lovers.
Sound in Motion.
www.simtoronto.org
Independent Electronic Music.
Live nation can buy all the talent they want, but it is still a corporate event, whose profits go to its OWNERS: http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=LYV
Support Independent Music my friends, speak out against Corporate music.
My interview with blogTO just released as well.
Click @djjeffbutton to link up to it.
Includes at 2+ hour exclusive house mix as well :)
Enjoy!
http://soundcloud.com/inner-city-dance
new blood is always what will fuel the scene, people forget when they themselves first started. a party is just that, a party. way too much chin stroking and arguing going on here. let them do their thing, there is room for everyone.
also, big up this guy:
"PS. The Toronto jungle/dnb scene has been an enormous influence on everything here since the 90's. I think it deserves credit were it's due."
Accusations of XLR8R-hipsterism aside, I love what these guys do for the city, they throw events with care and confidence in their acts. They bring in some interesting artists, support great locals that may not get a lot of notice to some party-goers (Exeter, Grahamzilla, Vlsonn etc) and try to stand out with interesting venues... nothing wrong with that, and if blogTO has some kind of "boner of the week" for them, whatever, let them.
From one promoter to another: fuzzy dolphin stickers for everyone!
All I know is that over the past couple years, since I moved downtown, I've already noticed that there are way more shows in Toronto that are up my alley (thrown by Mansion, or otherwise) than there would have been two years ago. That's really all I'm concerned about and I am loving it. Selfish? You bet.
To the 'hate' or critical comments, are you really trying to argue your stupid point over the internet? Good for you, you can comment how these 'kids' don't know anything. Go back to your shitty day job and be jealous somewhere else. The Mansion wasn't the first or gonna be the last they just do something they enjoy and are doing it well.
2. WHO PICKS THESE PHOTOS?! The one dubstep kid at the party aint the right look of endearment for capturing the atmosphere as a whole.
3. XLR8R is actually BlogTO in disguise. and they are definitely not butthurt.
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I can also admit that I don't listen to the type of music they play on the regular,(and sometimes, i'm not even a fan of it! but that's okay, because there is always something that I enjoy) it's just a whole new different vibe once you're partying and surronded with people who just want to have fun and dance. That's all a good party really needs.
Hell, I was jamming out with some Chinese Dragon dancers listening to African-type drums by a Dj I've never heard of, and I had a GREAT time on New Years. People just need to open their mind to new things, and to try some of these events before they judge. (And for those thinking that I must be someone who follows the techno scene regularly, I do not; I listen to a crap load of korean music, alternative rock, and classical music - so if I can enjoy something extremely far fetched and out of my genre.. why can't you all?)
Big ups Konrad, Nancy, Thomas and Matt. Ya'll are pretty neat
Ya some of your comments show your ignorance but whatever.
Keep up the good work
Mansion partys are great! Maybe instead of spending hours trolling the internet forums bashing other people's success you should grow up and try and give back something positive to the world. Nancy,Konrad,Matt and Tom make sure every person attending their events feels included and has a good time. The music is amazing and diverse and the vibes are always spot on. I've worked with massive promoters and managers before and all I can say is it's rare to find ones that care so much about the people attending their shows. Thanks Mansion for bringing something fresh to the music scene. Whatever you're doing works.
i like house like you
at no point did I mean to suggest that the mansion crew doesn't know or understand the history of the scene - my issue was with the people who dump on Live Nation without realizing who's behind it.
This was a simple interview for blogTO, not some pop quiz on the history of the scene. Anyway, good luck to you and your crew for doing something different.
Good for Mansion for booking people that otherwise would be overlooked. French Fries is probably one of the best party djs in the world right now.
Cheers.
PS - there is nothing wrong with the term cheesy, it isn't exclusive from the word fun.
"cool" is a perception thing, mostly.
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