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CiRCA Filing for Bankruptcy?
Rumours have been swirling for weeks that CiRCA will be imminently filing for bankruptcy protection. The mega club, located around the corner from the Scotiabank Theatre and down the street from a Milestones, opened in October 2007 and was initially thought to be the best thing to happen to the Club District in years. But things started to unravel quickly and some suggested the writing was on the wall when founder Peter Gatien ceased relations with the club around March of this year.
Based on information we've gathered, we estimate that earlier this month notices were sent to more than 100 creditors. We managed to track down one creditor (an event promotion company) and received confirmation that a notice was in fact issued and received. We've attempted to get confirmation from CiRCA itself but a call to their offices earlier this week was met with a cheery response claiming that although business was "a bit slow" the company had not filed for bankruptcy.
Should it happen, what a bankruptcy filing will mean for the club and its creditors is still unclear. It's believed that CiRCA will not cease operations, however, and instead simply try to restructure its debt while carrying on business as usual. The web site still indicates a full schedule of events planned through the end of the year.
Talking with former employees and others who had relationships with the club (all of whom asked to be unnamed), we've heard a consistent theme that the club's difficulties likely stem from a combination of an unmanageable rent, too many investors and the unwillingness to follow through on Gatien's initial vision for the club.
Once the vision was abandoned, not only did Gatien depart but a number of other original staffers followed. In August, management gave promoters A.D/D only two days notice that they were terminating Randomland, the club's regular Friday night program, choosing to replace it with a more conventional urban-themed offering.
CiRCA's troubles were also likely a product of the club arriving at the wrong place at the wrong time. The economic recession couldn't have helped and the reputation of the Club District has only continued to decline with most non-905ers (at least those over the age of 23) opting to spend their money at smaller, more intimate clubs and bars on King West, West Queen West, Parkdale and Ossington.
According to club impresario Charles Khabouth, 2009 has been a tough year for the nightclub business. "It's been very up and down. There's a lot of competition out there. I don't like the way a lot of people are competing these days because it's really not very professional. I find a lot of people competing on price - no cover charge, low drink prices. In my opinion lowering the quality of the entertainment, the venues and the service. When you compete that way it brings out a certain crowd."
Khabouth suggested the city may expect to see more club closings early in 2010. "After New Year's there's always two, three clubs that close. For venues that are struggling," he said, "after a couple of snowstorms, you're gone."
Equipment suppliers such as lighting companies are the most likely to suffer if CiRCA closes, Khabouth said. Often companies will purchase expensive gear to lease to a particular client, and, as the club owner observed ruefully, "you know what used equipment is worth."
However, Khabouth believes the biggest losers in any CiRCA bankruptcy will be the employees. "What I see a lot of, when clubs close, is staff getting stiffed."
With contributions from Adam McDowell.


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The inner turmoil at the AGCO was evident from the fact that they appealed their own decision in the CiRCA case - which is one of the many reasons I believe the City should have its own liquor authority.
Wait--offering lower prices is unprofessional?
An arcade?
Another multiplex cinema?
How about a giant paint ball complex, so all the thugs can get out their pent-up aggression and need to shoot things with a less dangerous outcome?
No where in this article does it say the club is closed for good.
CiRCA is like a cockroach, its just keeps coming back.
Which it is.
Who cares.
it happens to every club in Toronto.
In January every other club will serve their license suspensions, lets see if BlogTO does an article on those clubs filing for bankruptcy.
This story is weak.
Why would they do that if they were closed?
Why would they make posters for upcoming events?
Why does anyone give a shit?
Honestly I wish they would all close down or move back to 905-land strip mall heaven. Stinky fashion-barf posers should leave Toronto to the city folk.
That confirmation indicates that a bankruptcy filing has taken place. But, due to the anonymity of the promoter and the fact that CiRCA has denied the allegations, the writer of the article has confined himself to reporting on the rumours surrounding the filing. And there is nothing libellous or irresponsible about that.
If I had to label something an epic fail, it would be your reading ability.
Those weren't the good ole days, you were just really really fucked up that night. That DJ sucks.
Also, I don't see where the article says that the club is closing.
As a security staff employee i can speak from FIRST HAND experiences...
Most of us security guys know now - to only accept pymt in cash.
We all know the chq's bounce .. and we're often even foreWARNED by our 'Manager' that this might happen. And if it does, bring the chq back, and they'll pay us cash.
They're in really bad shape.
They can't even afford the promoters Gatien used to have. Which is why they're doing so much postering.
I know. 'cause it'sh appened to me.
as a sidenote cheap drinks and no cover is a great thing, Charles K is a whiner, if expensive clubs with expensive drinks are so great then why are they threatened?
also:
circa had all of their equipment repossessed some months ago. it was kept pretty quiet, but frankly i was surprised they didn't shut down sooner.
I went to Circa once to see Chris Liebing. They promoted the show by saying the Liebing party would be in the front/upper room and that only those with the Liebing ticket would be allowed in there, though we could where ever. Unfortunately the other party (parties?) weren't that great I guess and they let everyone into the Liebing party and a bunch of grumpy HCwDBs came trolling in. Gross.
I thought Circa was dead from the get go. Do people still go clubbing? YEs, I guess so BUT maybe we should bring it back to booze cans and secret warehouses not multimillion dollar multiplexes. Circa is the West Edmonton Mall of the Club District. So Long, Good Bye
bankurptcy and restructing are two completely diferent things, and people with a half of brain know the difference. You look at any major bussiness out there and see how many times they restructure there businesses.So cause 2years ago the toronto maple leaf organization re structure there business means that they went bankurpt???????? People need to start thinking with there heads as apose to what rumors say. Go to circa on any friday or saturday and make that call for yourself
Ps. Didnt GM just file for bankruptcy? I dont think they are going anywhere either
bankurptcy and restructing are two completely diferent things, and people with a half of brain know the difference. You look at any major bussiness out there and see how many times they restructure there businesses. 2years ago when the toronto maple leaf organization restructured their business means that they went bankurpt? People need to start thinking with there heads as apose to what rumors say. Go to circa on any friday or saturday and make that call for yourself. And Shame on BlogTO for writing such a ridiculous article.
bankurptcy and restructing are two completely diferent things, and people with a half of brain know the difference. You look at any major bussiness out there and see how many times they restructure there businesses. 2years ago when the toronto maple leaf organization restructured their business means that they went bankurpt? People need to start thinking with there heads as apose to what rumors say. Go to circa on any friday or saturday and make that call for yourself. And Shame on BlogTO for writing such a ridiculous article.
Oh, Charles... that is funny. In my experience in all these years of clubbing, bar hopping, socializing in entertainment district and whatnot, all I can say is that clubs/bars that DO NOT have a ridiculous cover charges and overpriced drinks do bring out a different type of crowd - more sensible, down to earth people that are easy to have fun with, socialize with, get along with.
And seriously, that comment was the most hypocritical thing I've heard in a while, as the last time I checked Guvernment the water bottles still cost $4, the cover was still some $25-50 (depending what time of the night you'd show up on and who was on the bill in the DJ booth that night), and the staff/entertainment/crowd were pathetic, at the very best. Tattoo wasn't any better either...
Btw, Steve Lawler has been booked for NYE @ Circa?! Jesus... that's the first pleasant thing I've heard all day today - thanks for lighting up my Monday.
worry about your 4 walls on November 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Romuors of that circa is closing is just dumb..If you ever been there on a friday or saturday night you would see how stupid those comments are...These are just rumors spread by the compitition out there, who are trying to compete with circa and are losing(everyone know who I'm talking about charles).
bankurptcy and restructing are two completely diferent things, and people with a half of brain know the difference. You look at any major bussiness out there and see how many times they restructure there businesses.So cause 2years ago the toronto maple leaf organization re structure there business means that they went bankurpt???????? People need to start thinking with there heads as apose to what rumors say. Go to circa on any friday or saturday and make that call for yourself
- What an idiot!!! 'Romuors? compitition? bankurptcy? restructing? diferent? "people with half a brain" Wow this guy needs Spelling and grammar 101. Your talking about bankruptcy and restructuring... lol that's a joke you can't even spell. Go back to grade 5 and please educate yourself.
Thats just so pathetic.
I can just imagine the inside of some place like Circa.
A bunch of greased up douche bags twittering away to one another from across the dance floor as their favorite Rihanna song blares and they wave their hands like they just dont care.
Come on kids, time to grow up.
Like a 19 yr old dog its time to take clubs out back behind the barn.
I've worked in the night club industry for about five years and can certainly agree with some of the things Charles was quoted as saying such as: staff being the ones who get hurt the most by closures, and a few bad snow storms can be the difference between being solvent and bankrupt.
I also agree that 'super clubs' are a much more difficult venture than smaller club spaces, as many night clubs make their real money from corporate events. It is also harder to keep customers in a large space, as anything short of 300 people in the main room will make the club look 'empty' to some.
It is also very true that having a packed club does NOT mean you are making money, some people stand there and take up valuable real estate in a club or sneak in drugs and alcohol. I understand why, but it certainly affects the bottom line of a club, especially with the high overhead required to run a nice club.
This article does have a lot of conjecture in it, but articles like this are important if you want to be aware of the happenings in Toronto. Like it or not, it certainly got people talking and will hopefully drum up some business for CiRCA, not just for the owners, but for the staff; a strong majority of whom, I wager, only moonlight in the clubs to pursue their real passions by day.
Just because you don't like having fun in a venue like CiRCA does not invalidate the club's existence. Get over yourselves. Different strokes..
haha.
Has old Charlie boy ever been to his own flagship club before(Guvernment) ? Based on his comment, I'm guessing not.
Khabouth Quote:
"There's a lot of competition out there. I don't like the way a lot of people are competing these days because it's really not very professional. I find a lot of people competing on price - no cover charge, low drink prices. In my opinion lowering the quality of the entertainment, the venues and the service. When you compete that way it brings out a certain crowd."
1. One of his own clubs - Tatto Rock Parlour-$2 Drinks on Sundays!!! LOL
2. Circa's last night is New Years Eve.
it seems as though you need serious help with your writing skills. did you mean "restructuring" and "who is" and "as spposed", and what's up with thinking Arabic in your head and converting your half broken train of thoughts into more broken English. maybe you should try out "writing for dummies" on friday nights "as opposed to" club-hopping!
Move along.
Regards,