A Closer Look at Toronto's Club District

Posted by Tim
Filed in Film
September 30, 2009

Club DistrictYou either love Toronto's club district or you stay far far away. As a downtown dweller and someone who has pushed past my club-going prime, it's easy for me to dismiss or deride both the clubs and the 905ers who descend on Richmond and Adelaide streets in their rented stretched Hummers for a night out in the big city.

But the club business is big business and like it or not, despite the efforts of area residents, the BIA and a certain city councillor it's not going to change in any drastic ways anytime soon.

A newish documentary called Clubland takes a look at the current state of the area through interviews with local club owners, club goers and others who have a stake in its future. I first saw the film back in May when it premiered at Hot Docs; but in advance of its world television premiere this Friday on Global I connected with its producer Peter Gentile to find out his impressions of the area and what it was like trying to track down Gatien, Khabouth and the Clubland's other central characters.

Why did you decide to make this film?

When i was younger I hung out in nightclubs a lot with friends, looking back I didn't quite understand why I went so much. Recently with all the headlines that the entertainment district was receiving I thought it would be a good question to ask and find out why a lot of men and women go to the clubs and the ripple effect it had on the area and on the city.

Do you think you successfully answered those questions?

I think viewers will be in a better position to answer that - I mean for me it really revealed the domino effect that starts with guys and girls wanting to go out and meet, dance and connect. It has become a big business and that in turn has attracted very big business people.

The area that we look at in the film was really abandoned when I was going there 20 years ago - parking lots were free it was actually very quiet it was really a ghost town in the city at night in that area. 20 years later the clubs effect on the area is that it firstly attracted crowds and eventually land developers saw it as an opportunity to build condos that the very people who were going to the area might actually want to live in that very same area.

That has been a success story for the city in that the downtown core is vibrant (not that the Entertainment District is the only reason for that) with people going out but also people living in the downtown core which really wasn't the case 20 years ago. But that leads to other things in that now people living in the area don't want the things that come with 50,000 young people coming into their neighborhoods every weekend.

What would you like to see happen to the area? What realistically can be done to improve the situation for both club goers and residents?

That's a very tough question to answer. Many people have been looking into the very issue - city planners, politicians, club owners and builders. I personally don't think you can eliminate the clubs in the area. They actually bring a lot to the city but I think 100 clubs in the area is too much (when we filmed last year there were 53 clubs remaining) but I don't think there should be a condo on every corner either - the answer I hate to say is a very Canadian one - balance.

With the way the economy is now there are too many clubs to sustain themselves and it appears that new condo construction has slowed as well - this actually might provide an opportunity for a more diverse mix of other businesses and enterprises to sprout up and make the area more dynamic.

When you were making the film, did you have any difficulty getting access to the club owners or other people you wanted to talk to?

At first it was difficult because i think whenever you're doing a documentary trust is a big issue....and you usually don't have a lot of time to earn it. I had some contacts in the area with a club owner and some of the police and our director Eric Geringas has a cousin who runs one of the clubs and those contacts helped letting everyone know that we didn't have an agenda.

How about the big guys like Charles Khabouth and Peter Gatien? I suspect they didn't need the extra attention?

You're right. They don't need the press personally but every venture in the district needs attention to succeed. It's very competitive. Both Charles and Peter are leaders in the field and they might have different styles but they both ran very professional clubs and would say they set the standard in the city. A lot of problems that have arisen in the club district comes from owners that had clubs as side ventures and wasn't their primary focus....One thing we learned is the club business is very tough. It's competitive, tastes change quickly and there's a big capital investment required to attract crowds.

And now Gatien has left CiRCA. Did you get a sense he left because of the issues with the area?

He left recently but not while we were filming. He was still there. We ran into him last week but he didn't say what he was up to next. No one is really sure why he left. A couple of other key people left as well and are now actually working with Charles.

The film is 44 minutes long. When I watched it at Hot Docs I was hoping it would have gone on longer. Were you restricted to this length for budget reasons? Or did you feel you covered all you had set out to?

Well the 44 minutes is actually a standard television hour nowadays. We had a 54 minute version that played at Hot Docs and there is other footage on our website. We filmed pretty much all weekends last summer and used two cameras. We had almost 50 hours of footage and lots of interview subjects that we could not fit into the show. And in regard to 'set out to do' that's a good point in terms of where you start but the more you film the more the films starts leading you in directions and what you set out to do becomes very simple - tell a story in a compelling way.

Tell me about getting the film seen and distributed? Beyond Hot Docs, has it been shown anywhere? What has this process been like?

We are working on getting a distributor now and excited about the world television premiere this Friday at 8pm on Global Television.

Anything else you'd like to tell me?

The project was a lot of fun to do but going to clubs is a young man's game - you've got to be in a certain type of shape to do it week in and week out. The other thing I noticed is that the women are much more aggressive nowadays and now with a young daughter I can't help but wonder what the club scene will be like in 20 years.

Photo by Roger Cullman

gadfly on September 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM

As with any 'planned neighborhood,' the Club District is bound to be a mixed bag, bordering on disaster. In fact, the so-called club district was better before the Dome was built: there were plenty of after hours clubs (Twilight Zone being the best) and 'speak easies' in that neighborhood that didn't require a $20 cover and posers in suits!
There are very few places to go in this city that aren't tiny, cramped hell-holes to dance, thanks to the lack of cheap warehouse space, our high insurance rates and outrageous rents.

In any event, Montreal has a more vibrant bar/club scene because it hasn't 'gentrified' every neighborhood. Besides, who can compete with all the kids twittering, face-booking and texting on the dance floor?

danielle on September 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM , replying to a comment from gadfly

Ah, the Twilight Zone. Good times.

MikeySigs on September 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I worked at one of the INK clubs while this movie was being shot. I must say all of the people involved with it were very respectful to the people & the clubs they were in.

Best of luck.

Khalid Chagrin on September 30, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Are those kids on the MyFace again!?! Get off my lawn!

Adam on September 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Frequenting big dance clubs in 2009 is like being really into disco circa 1986. I mean, it's been 11 full years since A Night at the Roxbury, which should have shamed the clubbists into vanishing once and for all. The best way to shut these places down -- if that's what you want -- is to spread the message about how anachronistic and lame they all are.

Losers.

thatguy on September 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM , replying to a comment from Adam

You should spread that message by adding it to your 'get of my lawn sign' sir.
At least in the summer. During winter spread your message while you are campaigning against christmas.

I may dislike clubs at this point, but they server a purpose and are entertaining to their crowd. Does every one really have to like what you like and be in the same scene ?

jen on September 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I was never a fan of the megaclub but I really liked Circa's Randomland...such a diverse group of patrons and great DJs/performers. Sad to see they went mainstream and I'm really curious about Gatien's departure.

This article could use some grammatical help...I had to read a few sentences twice to understand.

"The area that we look at in the film was really abandoned when I was going there 20 years ago - parking lots were free it was actually very quiet it was really a ghost town in the city at night in that area." Oy.

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Bonnie on September 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I live in the Entertainment District. I don't begrudge people having fun. What I hate are the drunken a-holes that scream "WOOOOO" every two minutes at 3 a.m. and cause damage to private property. Or having the sidewalk littered with postcards advertising club nights. Most of all, it's having to walk on the streets to get home (from somewhere else, of course) because the sidewalks are crowded with people lining up to get into the clubs.

Having a condo on every corner may help. You tend to treat your immediate surroundings with more respect, especially if it effects your property values. Clubgoers who drive into the city don't seem to care much about the neighbourhood. And why should they? They don't live here.

Here's a solution for club owners wanting to attract crowds and avoid huge competition - build more clubs in the 905 area. It's less dense, rent is cheaper and you'll be closer to where most of your target audience lives.

Bill W. on September 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM

My lord, when I saw this doc at Hot Docs, it was easily one of the worst pieces of documentary footage I've ever seen. It played less like a professional doc, and more like an MTV-like 'Real World' reality show. But maybe that was what the filmmaker was going for, in which case I say Mission Accomplished.

However, I am thankful that I saw this film, as it gave me a great inside joke for months after the film. Every time Adam Vaughan came on screen (5 or 6 times, maybe), the narrator omniously said something the effect of 'But Counsellor Adam Vaughan thinks there's something..wrong....in CLUBland." Makes me laugh every time I think of it.

Keep up the mediocre work, my good man!

jax on September 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM

awesome, i really want to watch this.

so i can laugh at the ginos.

:)

It... on September 30, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Sucked...

Almost as much as the 905er douchbags.

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