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New in Toronto real estate: Tableau Condos

Posted by Robyn Urback / July 26, 2012

Tableau CondosTableau Condos will rise from the ashes of the former Embassy nightclub. Glorious, isn't it? Located at Richmond and Peter, the building will feature a heritage-inspired structure at its base, separated from the residential suites above by the project's signature design element: the table. ("Tableau"... get it?!) With retail at ground and 25,000 square feet of office space on floors two and three, this mixed-use building will be the realization of a partnership between Urban Capital Property Group, Malibu, and Alit, with Wallman Architects at the drawing boards. Here's a closer look at what's on the.. er... "table."

SPECS

Number of units: 410

Number of floors: 36

Unit sizes (in square feet): 405-1036

Starting price: $307,900

Parking: $35,000 (for select suites)

Storage locker: $3,500

Maintenance: $0.52

Hydro included?: No

Interior design by: Cecconi Simone

Number of elevators: 4

Amenities: Party room, film room, 24/hr concierge, games room, fitness centre, yoga studio, guest suite, terrace patio with barbecues

Expected occupancy: Fall 2014

Tableau CondosTHE GOOD

Talk about looking down on the rest of the city; these units offer some views. And none of those baby balconies with scant room for a patio chair (I'm looking at you, E Condos). Even the Tableau studio suites (which everyone knows are at the bottom of the real estate food chain) boast balconies that are over 100 square feet, with some of the two-bedroom units sporting wrap-around balconies that are close to 300 square feet. That's a lot of room for embracing the night and taking in all of the Entertainment District action. And once you get above, say, the 15th floor, you probably won't be able to make out when the club-goers down below spit up on themselves. It's win/win!

Tableau also seems an ideal option for the ostentatiously eco-minded. That is, the type who don't just drive a hybrid car, but also make a point of telling friends, family, and strangers that they drive a hybrid car. While energy-efficient appliances pretty much come standard at any new development in Toronto nowadays, Tableau also boasts a green roof (which, granted, aligns with a new city bylaw), a car sharing system, an advanced recycling program, water-efficient toilets and showers, zero-VOC paints, and a rainwater collection system that will be used for on-site irrigation, among other systems.

But best of all, Tableau offers a "comprehensive education and training program" so that residents are well-versed on the sustainability features of the building. Because heaven forbid you start describing a submersible pump rain collection system rather than a suction pump system when giving your friends the grand tour.

And a quick note about the suite shapes: it's nice to see a diversion from the big, bland boxes in the sky. Some of Tableau's units actually have unique angles, which may ease that nagging feeling that you've just dumped your life savings into an elevated storage locker. But seriously, it's a good change, and one that generally allows for the maximum influx of natural light.

Tableau CondosTHE BAD

Inspiration from a table? Really? I can just see the scene; it's 3 a.m., crumpled sketches everywhere, and architects toiling in a high glass tower are on their collective last legs. "Should we model it after this coffee cup?" one suggests, raising the stained mug before him. A sea of scowls are shot in his direction. "What about my shoe?" suggests another, leaning down to remove his loafer. More mumbles. "Fuck it," the lead architect finally declares. "We'll just model the condo after this table. Now let's go home."

Needless to say, I'm not exactly moved by the "table" inspiration. I could take or leave the 90-foot green Shayne Dark "Nova" structure (which doesn't look all that different from the X Condo Shayne Dark structure), though it has been "specifically designed to interact with, and project through, the table." I think this is the part where I should warn about the risks of reading too much condo-babble print...

Moving on. Being at the centre of everything is definitely a boon (a forgotten point for my "good" section, above?), except when the area's amenities are duplicated within the building. It's not redundancy that's necessarily problem, it's paying for ever-increasing maintenance fees (because, let's face it, they won't be $0.52/sq forever) for upkeep when everything you need is literally outside your front door. Tableau has its own film screening room? Well, uh, the TIFF Bell Lightbox is literally five minutes away. And the Scotiabank theatre probably less than two. A fitness centre?

Extreme Fitness is around the corner. A games room? The Charlotte Room is just down the road. It's not that it isn't incredibly convenient to have all of these amenities within the building, it's just that I would prefer to pay for the odd game of billiards just when the mood strikes me, instead of constantly paying for everyone's games out of my monthly fees.

And perhaps I'm beating a dead horse (see my kitchen and bedroom rants à la Carnaby, 109OZ, INDX...) but I still believe that a kitchen should be more than a wall of appliances (perhaps even with a free counter or two), and that bedrooms should have bona fide hinged doors. Call me old fashioned, but I'm sticking with it. Tableau, unfortunately, does not share my assertion.

THE VERDICT

A heritage structure with a "table" on top. And then 34 storeys on top of that. Need I say more?

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Discussion

34 Comments

neighbour / July 26, 2012 at 09:54 am
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How can there be a "heritage structure" at its base when everything in that lot was knocked down?
Nick replying to a comment from neighbour / July 26, 2012 at 10:00 am
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You are correct. It will not be a heritage structure at the bottom. From the many other websites I've read, it will be a "heritage inspired" base, taking the inspiration from what they knocked down. Translation: they knocked it down for no real reason (they could have kept at least the facade) and they're now going to throw up a reasonable facsimile of it made out of precast and/or stucco. Hopefully it doesn't turn out awful.
Pk / July 26, 2012 at 10:12 am
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I like the black steel beams over the sidewalk. Reminds me a bit of the TD Centre. A nice change from other condos.
Derek / July 26, 2012 at 10:19 am
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We have updated the wording to "heritage-inspired," which promises to be tacky as hell.
Cyril Sneer / July 26, 2012 at 10:21 am
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endless, endless, endless style over substance.
EC / July 26, 2012 at 10:21 am
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WHY IS THE MICROWAVE THERE?
Jer / July 26, 2012 at 10:23 am
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Another bad is living in the Entertainment District. So many drunk people down there any given night of the week but in particular Thursday to Saturday. Lot of car honking, traffic mess, etc.
m replying to a comment from EC / July 26, 2012 at 10:24 am
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so that all the kids that will live in this condo could use it, duh!
BM / July 26, 2012 at 10:24 am
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Wasn't the Embassy more west and on Queen?
Raki / July 26, 2012 at 10:26 am
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"Tableau" in French is generally more evocative of "painting" or "work of art". Personnally, I think that's much nicer inspiration than a table or chart.

Love the idea of a wraparound balcony... How nice it is to dream...
? / July 26, 2012 at 10:37 am
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It wasnt Embassey.
It was where Pizzaville was and that bar Tequila Something or other. It was about 4 different bars.
AV / July 26, 2012 at 10:46 am
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Can't wait until this is never built.
Fresh Food is for Suckers / July 26, 2012 at 10:50 am
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I see we're continuing the trend of not offering a fridge (unless I'm missing it) which is just awesome. As Jer pointed out, if you enjoy sleeping on the between Thursday and Sunday, forget this place, you won't get any.

On the plus side, if you're looking to get laid on the aforementioned nights, a quick elevator ride and a few "Hey 905er girls, wanna check out my fancy downtown condo?" should be all you need.

So I'm of mixed feelings on this building.
Fridger replying to a comment from Fresh Food is for Suckers / July 26, 2012 at 10:57 am
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The fridge is the white cabinet looking thing to the right of the counter.
A lot of new builds do that. They cover the front of the fridge the same as the cabinets.

Not exactly sure why. Keep things as looking as "Creep Show 2" as much as possible maybe
Dan / July 26, 2012 at 11:00 am
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I don't know what your fixation is on this whole 'table' thing. The design of this building ranks well within the 95th percentile of the high rise buildings that go up in Toronto. The heritage aspect is a brick for brick recreation of the original façade. Just, you know, nicer. It was required by the city. The thing about heritage integrations is that you can't see them when you admire a building from afar, and when done properly, feel much better at street-level when walking past.

On the amenities though, you sound like Rob Ford going on about 'the private sector' doing a better job. I don't know your situation, but if your building has a gym--particularly a large and well-equipped one--it saves you a ton of money. Between a couple who live together, you're easily saving $160 a month on memberships. And for what, an extra $.05 per sqft? That's like twenty-five bucks, to say nothing of the convenience. As for the billiards or screening rooms, aside from the initial equipment, the upkeep costs are nil. They may be useful for some, or simply sound attractive in theory, but they're not doing anything to the condo fees, really.
Fresh Food is for Suckers replying to a comment from Fridger / July 26, 2012 at 11:09 am
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Ahhh, I see now. So that leaves that tiny bit of cabinetry between the fridge and wall for all your stuff. Brilliant.
Rob / July 26, 2012 at 11:11 am
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Isn't this actually going to be on the north west corner, which is where there is currently an old building that they have reinforced with steel girders? In which case, the heritage building statement still stands...
Dan replying to a comment from Rob / July 26, 2012 at 11:18 am
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No, you're thinking of the office building that Allied is putting up that will connect up to Queen St. That one is definitely heritage. This one is one the SE corner where Tonic was back in the day.
Alex / July 26, 2012 at 12:05 pm
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Seems like a lot of unnecessary amenities. Why have a yoga studio and fitness centre? Why not just do yoga on an open area of the fitness centre? Also, why a film room and party room? It wouldn't be quite as ridiculously fancy, but you could just set up a projector in the party room and bring some chairs. If it doesn't need a lot of maintenance fees down the road (and a big empty room probably doesn't) then the games room, fitness centre, and party room are nice additions to have. I assume they are open 24 hrs.

Is that a kitchen table/island included (built-in) or are they just showing where they would put the kitchen table? This is definitely geared toward non-cooking people.
BitMedler replying to a comment from neighbour / July 26, 2012 at 12:05 pm
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I was going to say the same thing, but it's the other corner. The North West one where they left the heritage skeleton propped up ala ACC (et al).
Kdiddy / July 26, 2012 at 12:28 pm
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I actually think this building looks fantastic. Definitely more interesting to look at than most of the cookie-cutter glass towers going up as of late.

Problem is, this corner is a clusterf@ck at most times of the day and week. There's often traffic backed up on Richmond from Spadina during the day and don't even get me started about the mess this area becomes on the weekends.
grumpy old man / July 26, 2012 at 01:05 pm
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the condo units better have some damn good soundproofing
Green glass replying to a comment from grumpy old man / July 26, 2012 at 01:16 pm
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Naw, it won't. It'll use the same crappy green glass every other new condo uses, which I know from experience is completely ineffective in blocking out the sound of 905ers screaming "Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!" at the top of their lungs at 3 a.m. for no apparent reason.
Alex replying to a comment from Green glass / July 26, 2012 at 01:24 pm
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Have you ever been to or lived in the 905? If you had, then you'd understand that the fact you were anywhere that wasn't the 905 at 3am would make you scream for joy too.
Jennifer replying to a comment from Nick / July 26, 2012 at 01:52 pm
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I watched the demolition of that beautiful 1930s era warehouse, and they took special care with the doorway. It remained standing for some time, so I wonder if they are saving those bits to glue onto the exterior of this new and crappy condo building. WHY they couldn't have just saved the whole bloody building and built out the top of it (if they simply must have a condo there), I'll never know.
alan / July 26, 2012 at 01:53 pm
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anyone else see the folding doors on the left that probably will unfold over the kitchen to hide it when you invite all those 905er skanks up to see your cool condo?
Henry / July 26, 2012 at 02:37 pm
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One good earthquake and that entire building will crash down onto the ground. Don't think it isn't possible. There have been quakes over magnitude 5 here before.
Svej / July 26, 2012 at 02:47 pm
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Is the author implying that tableau means table, as in something you eat off of? Because the word we use in French for table is ... table. Tableau is more like a painting. Considering Canada is a bilingual country (technically), let us be a little bit more accurate with such simple translations, please.
brian / July 26, 2012 at 03:19 pm
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The people crying about the noise from the 'entertainment district' are completely idiotic. If you are actually from Toronto and not the 905 you would know that no one in their right mind goes to those clubs. Not to mention, Toronto is a city, meaning any area you visit is going to be noisy on the weekends. Not to mention, with the proposed finish date being in 2015-2016, how many of those horrendous clubs do you anticipate being there? The same developer behind the Four Seasons is building just 1 intersection West and there are numerous other high end developments coming to the area. Those clubs don't stand a chance when the rent skyrockets.
gtafunmuscle / July 26, 2012 at 03:47 pm
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over $700 per sq. ft.. nice.. i am holding on to my 1000 sq ft condo downtown..not selling it
Green Glass replying to a comment from Alex / July 26, 2012 at 04:17 pm
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Good point.
Green Glass replying to a comment from brian / July 26, 2012 at 04:21 pm
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True. I guess they're all just coming downtown for a street vendor hot dog at 3 in the morning or something.
Pk replying to a comment from Henry / July 26, 2012 at 05:19 pm
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Are you talking about this building or every building in Toronto? Seriously, the steel trusses you see are the same as every building, but in the case of others they're just covered in cladding (glass, brick, other non-load bearing materials).
a great architecture review by me thank you for listening / July 27, 2012 at 01:37 am
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A table as an inspiration is awful! Just look at one of the most loved, famous, and well-reviewed buildings in the city -- OCAD by Will Alsop!

Architecture inspired by everyday objects is always awful. The french fry inspired Chips building by Will Alsop and the fish inspried titanium Frank Gehry buildings -- all awful!

In fact the whole post-modern and deconstrictuvist movements are all awful considering many are inspired by objects! Boooo!

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