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New in Toronto real estate: INDX condos

Posted by Robyn Urback / July 19, 2012

INDX Condoa TorontoAfter a number of false starts, construction looks like it will actually happen at 70 Temperance. Lifetime Developments and CenterCourt Developments have collaborated to create a massive residential tower at Bay and Adelaide, which will be located right next to the historic Graphic Arts Building. INDX Condos will have everything from a tasting room to a poker lounge, with a wine fridge in every suite and a direct connection to the downtown PATH. Needless to say, INDX is after the (single?) urban professional; he who doesn't mind the sound of traffic as his evening lullaby. Here's a closer look at INDX Condos.

INDX CondosSPECS

Number of units: 798

Number of floors: 54

Unit sizes (in square feet): 361 - 821 (+ penthouses)

Starting price: $260,900

Parking: $69,900 (limited to select suites)

Storage locker: $5,000

Maintenance: $0.50 /sq. ft.

Parking maintenance: $99.95 /mo

Storage locker maintenance: 29.95 /mo

Hydro included?: No

Interior design by: Cecconi Simone

Number of elevators: 5

Amenities: Fitness centre, poker room (yes, really), golf room (again, really), theatre room, guest suites, party room, terrace, 24-hr concierge, car sharing

Expected occupancy: December 2015

INDX CondoTHE GOOD

For a perfectly placed pied-à-terre, you really can't do better than right at Bay and Adelaide. The target market is terribly apparent, and Lifetime is looking at you suited finance folk. Beyond the 24-hour concierge who receive your dry cleaning and take in your grocery deliveries (no, I'm not kidding), every single unit in INDX comes standard with an undercounter wine fridge.

Because only troglodytes chill their wines in a typical refrigerator. But for the urban professional will little time to commute (or go grocery shopping, for that matter), INDX seems to have covered all the right bases. Recognizing the importance of keeping the chardonnay separate from the Cheez Whiz is just an added bonus.

And speaking of bonuses, there is a good chance that you will never, ever have to go outside if you buy a unit at INDX. Hurray for Vitamin D deficiency! But seriously, winter can be awful, but fortunately INDX will be connected to the underground PATH and subway. And that means fewer frantic footwear swaps when you arrive at work and try to hide those dorky snow boots.

INDX's garage will also host a number of car share vehicles, which will provide another option for those 700 or so units that are sold without parking spaces. As Lifetime says in its marketing brochure, "See, you are sooo connected." Did you wince? I did.

Also worth noting is that many of the units (especially those facing north) should have pretty stellar views. Especially once you cross the halfway-up mark. But for those stuck on the fifth floor with barely a view to the next building, there's always the option of resorting to the poker room or golf stimulator. Greener pastures, as they say.

INDX CondoTHE BAD

These suites are itty-bitty. Not unexpected for an address at Bay and Adelaide, but not a lot of stretching room all the same. For 500 square feet or more, count on easily forking over $350k. Again, not a problem for a pied-à-terre, but certainly questionable for couples or individuals with extensive wardrobes. And seriously, 740 square feet for a THREE-bedroom unit!? But in this case, I blame Toronto's asinine rules about family-sized downtown units, but I'm not going to head down that road.

Instead, I'll head down the road frequently charted in this series; that of the suite that forgoes functionality in favour of openness. INDX kitchens, like too many other kitchens in Toronto condos, appear ill-suited to actual cooking, with little countertop space and/or storage for dishes and pantry items. Many of floorplans also offer bedrooms that have scant space for a bookshelf or nightstand, with one sliding door (or sometimes, two) closing the space to form an actual "room." Perhaps the urban professional doesn't do a whole lot of cooking and/or bedtime reading, but it would be nice if the space offered the option.

And lastly, let's all put on our architecture caps and pass judgement on the actual aesthetics of the structure (because that's not annoying or troll-like at all, right?). Personally, I think it's sort of tacky when a sleek new structure emerges from and/or alongside a historic Toronto structure. Then again, a historic emulation would probably be just as tacky (not to mention, expensive), so I suppose it's lose/lose.

Anonymous internet commenters (the best kind of commenters) have opined that INDX looks a bit like a USB hub, which is better than my initial assessment of the building as a row of staples. Please weigh in on this most important discussion.

And a note on maintenance; those poker games, nights in the tasting room, and afternoons perfecting your swing will soon catch up with you. Enjoy the low fees while they last.

THE VERDICT

A solid choice for the anti-cook, anti-snow, wine-guzzling urban professional (now that's a line to put on a dating profile). Can't get better in terms of a central pied-à-terre, though you can certainly get more bang (read: space) for your buck outside of the core.

INDX Condos

Discussion

28 Comments

Paul / July 19, 2012 at 09:27 am
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Is that Tobias Fünke in the lounge? Careful, he just blue himself.
bonezone replying to a comment from Paul / July 19, 2012 at 09:35 am
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this looks tiny, perhaps an attic i shall seek
kook / July 19, 2012 at 09:47 am
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What a terrific write-up. If only all real estate developments were this in-depth!
2 cents / July 19, 2012 at 09:56 am
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from the illustration above, it seems they have a wine fridge but not an actual fridge. unless that panel with the judy jetson convection oven hides a fridge too. this article erroneously states you'd have somewhere to store cheez whiz.

seriously, maybe something like this would actually sell to financial yuppies and corporations looking to house employees, but to me it's just one more toronto developer building impractically small living spaces and trying to pass it off as 'trendy'.
amir / July 19, 2012 at 09:58 am
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How does 1 (or half of 1 for that matter) live in 350 sqft.? quite sad
chip replying to a comment from amir / July 19, 2012 at 10:07 am
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I live in a 360sqft apartment. It's really quite livable. It's not sad at all.
f indx / July 19, 2012 at 10:15 am
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ha ha ha that kitchen makes me laugh and laugh and laugh

Pathetic counter space, pathetic cupboard space.

And I assume the real fridge is behind one of the wood panelled parts of the wall unit - so you have even LESS storage space.

Worst kitchen design in history
MrsPotato replying to a comment from Paul / July 19, 2012 at 10:18 am
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LOLLLLLLLL'z ... great comment!!

+1
Alex / July 19, 2012 at 10:19 am
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Aside from obvious economic reasons, this should have been an apartment building, not a condo. It's clearly designed for people to rent, not buy and live in for years. Also, not for people to cook in. Is that an oven in the middle of the fake wood panelling?

I saw the heading "the bad" and then that guy in blue short pants with little to no socks, and thought it was referring to him.
alan / July 19, 2012 at 10:21 am
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it doesn't look like either of these images are of an actual suite...the lower is probably the fabled poker room / tasting room...
alan / July 19, 2012 at 10:22 am
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my bad...i missed a photo in my much too quick response...
Alex / July 19, 2012 at 10:26 am
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Forgot to comment on the architecture :) I actually like how it looks from the outside, though it is probably a very flattering photo. Similar to the first one that makes the suite look bigger than it probably actually is.
AJS replying to a comment from Paul / July 19, 2012 at 10:50 am
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Douchechilllll
stanthemanchan / July 19, 2012 at 11:00 am
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$69,900 for parking?!? WTF
Paul replying to a comment from AJS / July 19, 2012 at 11:00 am
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Andrea replying to a comment from amir / July 19, 2012 at 11:16 am
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I've lived and it was fine. Just make your life so much easier without all the useless junk.
Ashleigh / July 19, 2012 at 11:34 am
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The bad should include glass balconies. Councillor Vaughan will ban glass balconies before this USB stapler gets built.

Sorry, that should be The STPLR.

b / July 19, 2012 at 11:38 am
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People crying about small spaces need to go back to the suburbs. Living downtown affords you the ability to not HAVE to cook, therefore ample counterspace is completely unnecessary, room to entertain before heading out is all you really need. And somewhere to lay your head when it's all done. A small space also keeps junk from piling up, it's actually quite a nice way to live. If you think otherwise, you're a hoarder.. or your body takes up so much space that living in under 500 sq ft is not physically possible.
bonezone replying to a comment from b / July 19, 2012 at 11:49 am
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absolutely agree with everything here.
J-Dan replying to a comment from b / July 19, 2012 at 11:50 am
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I agree that you don't need a lot of space to live, especially if you're a city dweller but the idea that living "downtown affords you the ability to not HAVE to cook, therefore ample counter space is completely unnecessary" is ludicrous.
Having a child, and animals...not possible to eat out all the time if you would like to save money and LIVE downtown.
mike1234 replying to a comment from b / July 19, 2012 at 11:55 am
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sounds like somebody is trying to convince themselves that their tiny condo is the best thing to happen to them (I am in one too, except I am not trying to make it sound sooo great by telling people I am a lazy, fiscally irresponsible idiot who can't cook my own meals.
bonezone / July 19, 2012 at 12:02 pm
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i dont think this condo will be sold to people who will be cooking at home anyway, this type of person will be rolling down to Rodney's on Bay for breakfast
Sky High / July 19, 2012 at 12:24 pm
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If you can afford to blow you money eating & drinking trendy overpriced food out all the time, and filling up your gas guzzler to park in your $70K parking space that is equivalent to most people's ideal down payment, your most likely not going to buy a tiny condo and buying a palace in the sky.
G replying to a comment from Alex / July 19, 2012 at 12:50 pm
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Essentially, it will become an apartment. It's perfect for a single suit who plans to work hard and play hard for a couple years while kicking off his career. But there's nothing here that would foster any real community so that guy will eventually move on to something more liveable. Expect units to be bought up by investors and tenants to turn over every year or two.
Wine is awesome / July 19, 2012 at 12:50 pm
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I think it's great for the developer to offer alcoholics a kitchen featuring only a wine fridge. Who needs fresh food anyway when you're drunk?

Love they threw in a "parking maintenance" fee of 100 a month no top of the 70K you already pay.
chip / July 19, 2012 at 01:01 pm
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Also, I kind of disagree with the claim that this is for someone "who doesn't mind the sound of traffic as his evening lullaby".

The financial district may be hectic in during the weekdays, but by nightfall it's completely deserted, save for the cabs waiting to pick up late workers.
Josh / July 19, 2012 at 01:09 pm
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During Open Doors, they were giving away a $10 Starbucks card to each person who went into their presentation centre. Three of us, three minutes, $30 in Starbucks.

What struck us the most wasn't the condos themselves, but the demographic they were aiming for. They were aiming for the sleazy young executive type, from the literature and wall graphics, right down to the TVs playing "Boiler Room" and "Wall Street" on a loop - which is a really bizarre choice when you think about it.
Michelle / July 22, 2012 at 11:32 am
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If living in a box is comfortable, by all means go right ahead.

I think I will stick with something less intimate.

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