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New in Toronto real estate: The Carlaw

Posted by Robyn Urback / June 14, 2012

The CarlawThe Carlaw is one development that speaks to the power of timing. While much of Leslieville around Dundas and Carlaw continues to sport that "industrial untouched" look, I suspect the remnants of its working-class past won't linger in the area for too much longer (hence Red Rocket's arrival, not too many months ago). Prospective buyers can get in ahead of the game — that is, only if The Carlaw meets all of their dwelling space needs.

Streetcar Developments has set up a posh little presentation space at 345 Carlaw, showing off said dwelling spaces as they'd be with a thorough dousing of professional interior design. (Naturally, of course.) But some of the new condo's numbers and details tell a less swoon-worthy story. Here's the nitty-gritty on Leslieville's latest project.

SPECS

Number of units: 320

Number of floors: 12

Unit sizes (in square feet): 348 - 941

Starting price: $199,900

Parking: $25,000 (for suites 600 sq. ft. and larger)

Storage locker: $5,000

Bicycle locker: $500

Maintenance: $0.50/ sq. ft.

Hydro included?: No

Amenities: Rooftop terrace, central courtyard (part of a 25,000 sq. ft. event venue space), 24/hr concierge, fitness centre, two guest suites

Expected occupancy: December 2014

The CarlawTHE GOOD

As I mentioned earlier, the immediate area certainly seems poised for a surge in activity. Carlaw itself (the street, that is) already hosts a handful of independent businesses including Toronto Newsgirls boxing club, Flaunt Boutique salon, and Queen B Pastry production (though sadly, not a retail shop). Plus there's the under-construction Flatiron Lofts across the street. While the Dundas streetcar doesn't come this far east, a quick walk to Queen or Gerrard allows you easy access to transit. Plus there's the glorious fact that you're a mere saunter from Mercury Espresso, Te Aro and other Queen East strongholds.

Architecturally, the structure seems to work with the area. It's not a soaring glass tower, nor a box, nor a futile attempt to somehow "capture" the essence of the intersection. Masonry brick and glass, mostly, make up the exterior facade, and all in all it seems to jive. And for a first-time buyer looking to get into Leslieville, the price is certainly right.

The CarlawTHE BAD

I'm trying not to let The Carlaw's incredibly slow website bias my opinion, but alas, I have failed. (Down with Flash!) Moving on...

Let's talk about suite size. In my humble opinion, 348 square feet is an appropriate size for a luxury terrace, not a permanent dwelling space. Granted, only a few studios in The Carlaw come that small, but most of the one-bedroom suites still measure in at under 600 (disqualifying buyers from a parking space, I might add). I'd expect such cramped quarters for a downtown-core structure where units might actually serve as pieds-à-terre, but not out here where the streetcars don't run (...directly in front of the building, that is).

Maintenance fees would be another concern. Sure, $0.50 per square foot is no sweat, but what about in five or ten years? Someone has to pay for that concierge, fitness centre upkeep, guest suite maintenance and more. Having such amenities surely is lovely, but the concept becomes less lovely when those luxuries inflate monthly fees. And speaking of luxuries — a 25,000 square foot outdoor/indoor event venue? That's super cool for the winter when you can ostensibly head to the party without going outside. Less cool for the poor second floor residents who were hoping for a quiet Saturday evening in.

The CarlawAnd I have mentioned my disdain for the practically countertop-less kitchen and sliding bedroom doors? Oh yeah, here and here. Damn this trend — The Carlaw has them too.

The CarlawTHE VERDICT

The Carlaw did not win me over. The area, obviously, is the big sell, but I don't think it offers enough to compensate for small studio and one-bedroom units, as well as the prospect of soaring maintenance fees. And while it might be super-convenient to host your birthday or wedding party on the main floor of your condo, it would also become super annoying when your neighbours decide to too.

What do you think? Would you live here? Add your comments to the thread below.

Discussion

19 Comments

Vadim / June 14, 2012 at 10:35 am
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Hey I liked your review! I have been looking at that area and trying to figure out where i want to live. Do you have other reviews or resources that talk about specific projects within the city?
TJ / June 14, 2012 at 11:01 am
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Excellent review Robyn. Finally, someone speaks the truth. No more of the praise for every single condo that comes along. Thanks for actually pointing out the obvious and common sense "bad". Based on the figures for the 348sq ft at $199900, it's $574/sq ft. That's absurd for the area. Plus, it does not appear you get top quality material either. Just based on the pictures: that is not a granite countertop; (cheap) laminate flooring; (cheap) kitchen cabinets; (cheap) closet doors.
BM / June 14, 2012 at 11:26 am
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Watch these builders like a hawk. They really skimp on stuff. Not someone I would buy from.
lowrez replying to a comment from Vadim / June 14, 2012 at 11:26 am
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Vladim: The urbantoronto.com forums are a great resource for virtually all new construction in the city. They also have good news content and tours of some completed projects.
Ravi / June 14, 2012 at 11:50 am
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Great review. Would be nice if you or someone else could write an article on the developers in Toronto and how the poor the quality and design aesthetics of the structures they are building in the city. What's with the all glass structures? Should peoples living rooms really be a design element to a buildings exterior?

small rant over.
Farah Mawani / June 14, 2012 at 11:51 am
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I rented a brand new unit in one of Streetcar Developments other buildings, to gain some insight into their work. I was seriously considering buying a unit at The Carlaw, but I have been shocked at how terrible Streetcar's customer service is. Instead of profuse apologies for significant problems within the suite, I get incredible rudeness from the Customer Service Manager. Even worse, the problems don't get resolved.
Alex replying to a comment from Ravi / June 14, 2012 at 12:02 pm
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Yeah, is there a site somewhere where they compare different developers and the relative quality of their work? Some developers do good work, and some do shoddy work, and it would be nice to know which ones are more trustworthy.
CM / June 14, 2012 at 12:10 pm
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Totally agree - not only re size and price - but the individual suites themselves seem totally unappealing - after looking at the floor plans I quickly gave this building a pass - even with the great location.
JenC / June 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm
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Location is A+ as mentioned, just a stroll from all the great shops and restaurants on Queen East. Developer is an F. I own a Streetcar condo and I would never buy from this developer again. The workmanship is beyond shoddy, customer service isn't great and any area where they can find a way to cheap out finishes, they'll take. Add in very small suites and buyers should avoid this development at all costs.
Jim / June 14, 2012 at 01:12 pm
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Expected occupancy: December 2014
Actual occupancy: December 2018
realj / June 14, 2012 at 01:32 pm
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When are dev going to realize that amenties are terrible ideas. Just give me a box to live in, the city provides the amenities.
Joe / June 14, 2012 at 01:44 pm
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After having made the mistake of buying a unit from Streetcar Developments, I would not recommend buying from this developer again. Their workmanship is shoddy, and they are horrible at fixing/completing the building. As others have mentioned, their customer service and tradespeople are horrible, they will simply ignore you when you ask them to fix things. As soon as they take your money, you're on your own. Great location, decent architecture, but horrible builder.
Randy / June 14, 2012 at 03:15 pm
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Who cares about the quality? These condos are made for flippin', not livin'.
naperville painters / June 14, 2012 at 03:50 pm
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It's going to be end of mine day, but before finish I am reading this impressive article to improve my know-how.
Tom / June 14, 2012 at 11:42 pm
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Great review, your points about square footage, lack of counter space and crappy sliding doors resonate with me all too well. I almost bought a unit at 109 ossington but that project suffers from the same flaws, cheap materials and greedy developers. It's beyond me why some people buy into these sad excuses for homes. The maintenance fees and taxes are also ridiculous. Might as well live in a hotel suite - at least you can get room service.
Rumington Carpet / June 15, 2012 at 08:43 am
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Vlad, www.urbantoronto.com is a great source for architectural and planning discussion, and for a map and list of what is new and selling check out http://www.buzzbuzzhome.com.

Robyn, I thought your comments on condo fees was a bit off, as all condos have condo fees. Your argument could be made for every project in the city.
Tom / June 15, 2012 at 09:13 am
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Carpet, check the maintenance fees for comparable condos in Vancouver and Montreal. You may be surprised at how much we are being ripped off here.
Bree / June 18, 2012 at 12:29 am
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I'll wait for them to rebrand a few times first. I'm looking for something in the Bohemiean range.
Dave / October 4, 2012 at 11:22 am
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I Have been dealing with Streetcar for a few months now and they have been very pleasent to deal with. They have accomodated my requests in a timely manner and with no grief. They were up front about move in dates and what to expect when i was in the purchasing stage and i wouldnt let some bad experiences sour anyones perception.

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