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Will Karen Stintz survive as TTC Chair?

Posted by Derek Flack / February 1, 2012

TTC Karen StintzCompromise? We don't want compromise!

In a move that amounts to an open revolt against TTC chair Karen Stintz, Ford supporters on the TTC board voted yesterday to prevent the study of further above ground options for the Eglinton Crosstown Line.

This almost surprisingly partisan vote — remember it's not as if Stintz hasn't played ball with Ford on the 2012 budget and where the $5 million in additional funds the Commission received should be directed — comes on the heels of news that Ford had no authority to unilaterally cancel Transit City and a subsequent letter from Metrolinx that asks for clear direction from the City of Toronto before it can proceed with the construction of the Crosstown (see below).

So what happens now? Stintz's compromise-based plan clearly had some support from city councillors (if not staunch Ford supporters). As Steve Munro explains, that means council could theoretically bring the debate on the Eglinton LRT to the fore by calling special meeting. In a post on his website (cross-posted to Torontoist), he notes that council could effectively overturn the Commission vote and get the alternate options for Crosstown back on the agenda.

"Some councillors are now talking openly of calling a special meeting of council; they need a majority of councillors to agree in order to convene one, but the mayor's approval is not required. The agenda for such a meeting would be set by those who call for it, not throttled by the mayor's cronies at Executive Committee (who often keep items they don't like off the agenda for regular council meetings). This would allow for a discussion of transit alternatives, disposition of the MoU [the Memorandum of Understanding Ford entered into with Metrolinx], and many other actions such as reconstituting the TTC with a better balanced group of councillors."

It's too early to tell if this will happen — and if Stintz will survive as TTC Chair — but the letter from Metrolinx demands that the City figure its shit out, and it's high time that reasonable members of council take it upon themselves to avoid disaster on Eglinton.

Letter to Mayor Ford and Councillor Stintz from Metrolinx

Discussion

26 Comments

belch / February 1, 2012 at 10:10 am
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I hope he replies with "THE TAXPAYERS WANT SUBWAYS!" or some other barfed up rhetoric.

Can this goon be thrown out for gross incompentence already?
Tanya / February 1, 2012 at 10:21 am
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new she was going to get thrown under the bus eventually pretty early on. I have a feeling everything will be in court by the end of his term. I.E. Council will vote against his plan and put in place a reasonable facsimile of transit city. transit committee appointed by him will illegally change it. kind of like how city council voted to have 5m fix the ttc cuts and his committee decided 'ah no we will just pour that into wheeltrans' only on a much larger scale.
Tanya / February 1, 2012 at 10:21 am
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lol *knew... I'm tired...
Mayor Rob Ford / February 1, 2012 at 10:49 am
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I didn’t overstep my boundaries, I did what the taxpayers want. They want subways. That’s it. They don’t want streetcars. I was out in Scarborough over the weekend, people came up to me and said they want subways. That’s it. It’s the taxpayers. The taxpayers want. I was elected on subways, they want subways, I was out on Saturday, people want subways. That’s it. It’s all subways. It’s all about subways. All about subways. So it’s the taxpayers that elected me to get the subways in and that’s what we’re gonna do. It’s like winning an election. So if they voted me in, that means I don’t win an election? It doesn’t make sense.
Stuart / February 1, 2012 at 10:50 am
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Glad that at least Metrolinx is representing the interests of the residents of Toronto. It's time for City Council to start doing the same
toronto replying to a comment from Mayor Rob Ford / February 1, 2012 at 11:00 am
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You nailed it! What a fucking mess this guy is. that's actually what he said. pretty much word for word. check that robots batteries...
mel / February 1, 2012 at 11:24 am
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rob ford is head strong and self righteous and he was elected into power by a general anti-toronto culture that exists in the suburbs (and rest of canada apparently). if you pit downtown toronto against the suburbs, downtown loses and the mayor is the embodiment of that disdain. iwonder if his popularity among the suburbanites has decreased since he was elected. problems with a megacity, 2 extremes 1 mayor
Bloated / February 1, 2012 at 11:29 am
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She hot
Josh / February 1, 2012 at 11:33 am
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With the exception of the Ford trolls who are having a great time on this site, where are all these people that support him? Most people I know hate what the guy is doing, even the ones who voted for him. He needs to be removed from office at this point, it's a joke. He is incompetent and very dangerous to city planning for ours and our children's futures. All this lefty, righty talk you hear online, it's for morons. Stop with the partisan BS people, either it works or it doesn't and right now it's broken.
Rob replying to a comment from Josh / February 1, 2012 at 12:09 pm
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Here's the problem with that line of thinking - where does it stop? While I agree the man should be ousted, the precedent you'd set would be catastrophic. You think there's gridlock now, wait until the next Mayor comes in and someone (or a group) want to get rid of them, and so on and so forth. He was elected to a four-year term, he should serve it. In four years we have our chance to elect someone else to the position, and encourage others to do the same. I hate to say it, but he ain't going anywhere. All we can do as citizens is put pressure on councillors to go back to Transit City and fix this mess.
John / February 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm
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Sorry Josh, the mayor ain't going anywhere. What is it with lefties who think they can overturn democratic results whenever the result isn't to their liking? You and your ilk are deluded if you think you can change the election results because you and your roommates didn't vote for the guy who won. The city is bigger than the area south of bloor between dufferin and Parliament. Time you learned to accept that fact.
John / February 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm
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By my own logic, I'm going to be very happy when City Council democratically votes to overturn Mayor Ford's money-burning transit fantasy.
Gordon / February 1, 2012 at 01:13 pm
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Doug Ford for TTC Chair! Sadly, it wouldn't surprise me.

I'm happy to see Karen Stintz try to apply some reason to the process, I hope she continues to.
Yes / February 1, 2012 at 01:46 pm
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I think John 1 just got spanked by John 2.
Mark / February 1, 2012 at 02:18 pm
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John2, pithy response but you proved John1's point. If the mayor loses a vote, you don't see his supporters saying they have to remove or force the elected councillors to resign. Only the left supports overturning elections when it doesn't result in their favour.
Your Worship Mayor Ford... / February 1, 2012 at 02:45 pm
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It is your mandate to bring us subways!
Al replying to a comment from Mark / February 1, 2012 at 03:34 pm
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Did you not read the story? The Fordites are trying to remove Karen Stintz as TTC Chair.
Mark / February 1, 2012 at 03:39 pm
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I have never read a column by Sue-Ann Levy.
Mark / February 1, 2012 at 04:00 pm
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FACTS are so ANNOYING! I want to be RIGHT and be the WINNAR!
tommy / February 1, 2012 at 05:16 pm
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We are witnessing the end of any possibility of any new transit infrastructure in Toronto for a long time. By the time anything is decided on, Ontario is going to yank the cash due to the deficit and Toronto will end up with nothing. As we should. As punishment for our own collective idiocy.

I still have hope that the coming public worker strike will turn the city completely against Rob Ford, and will force people to finally start getting active in our dysfunctional municipal politics.
aguy / February 1, 2012 at 07:59 pm
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it's actually a clever move by metrolinx to send this letter. one can reasonably assume that metrolinx was quite satisifed with the transit city agreement, given they helped negotiate it with the previous city council. now that they are sensing the winds are changing against ford in council, they send this letter which basically says "we can't keep going on the MoU plan unless it is approved by council". it forces Ford's hands, because even if he engineers a removal of Stintz, he can't be anything close to assured of a majority vote in council of passing the MoU.

hats off to metrolinx.
UncleWiggley / February 1, 2012 at 09:34 pm
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Great observation by "aguy". Rob Prichard, Chair of Metrolinx, has seen a lot of politics in his time and knows when to play his hand.
UncleWiggley / February 1, 2012 at 09:44 pm
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P.S. I'm rooting for Karen Stintz's "compromise". Unfortunately calling it a compromise infers more legitimacy in the Ford plan than it deserves since Ford's plan gets nowhere near the bang for the transit investment buck. Let's hear council speak.
Brendan Mooney replying to a comment from Mayor Rob Ford / February 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm
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The Mayor is correct, sunbways are the only way to go. The mnre the. Light rail above ground might work in a small city with less population that Toronto and little congestion. It will never work in Toronto. The present TTC chair should go away she contributes nothing and just delays the inevitable.
iSkyscraper replying to a comment from Brendan Mooney / February 6, 2012 at 12:53 pm
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Yeah, Paris and London are just so much smaller than Toronto. And Houston. And LA. And Philadelphia. None of those cities have any traffic either. Thanks for letting us know!
wakeuptoronto / February 8, 2012 at 10:25 pm
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Wow...It is grossly ignorant of those who voted against this proposal today...do they actually believe that people will stop coming to Toronto...In order for this city an southern ontario to grow we need to move people an industry quickly an efficiently...The proposed LRT's will provide more congestion, longer wait times for commuters and most likely more accidents...Subways in my opinion pays off exponentially...The current infrastructure is a joke marred by years of bad policies, councilors with there fingers an arms in the cookie jar and Torontonians have paid the price...I have left the city, moved to the suburbs an bought a car. Yeah I know great for the environment but at the end of the day it seemed to be the only solution...

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