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G20 riots

Posted by Guest Contributor / June 26, 2010

G20 riotsThe G20 brought riots to Toronto streets today as angry protesters (the mayor called them thugs) let it be known they weren't in town to simply engage in peaceful demonstrations. Cop cars were set on fire, car windows and storefronts were smashed and arrests were made. Hospitals reported treating a few people for minor injuries.

For detailed reports check out the following articles:

Violence on Toronto streets for G20 (blogTO)
G20 Protest brings violence, arrests (CBC News)
G20 Live: Saturday (Torontoist)
Violence, confrontation as massive rally snakes through Toronto (National Post)

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Discussion

258 Comments

james earl cash / June 26, 2010 at 07:37 pm
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what a disgusting and shameful display. is this how you want to draw attention to your causes? displaying your discontent by causing hundreds, thousands, millions of dollars in damage? do the aboriginals, gays and the likes, the impoverished, the women, or whomever are "protesting" really support these means? if so i certainly will never, ever support them or what they stand for.
bob / June 26, 2010 at 07:38 pm
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Sad to see damage happening to beautiful College Park. Why the police aren't trying to protect important historical property? No one will ever know.

Oh, and that American Apparel makes me furious. Dumbass girls are fucking TOURISTS and NOT here to actually help any cause. Would like very much to see their homes damaged.

"Fuck the G20"? How about "Fuck t-shirts cause they don't do shit"? Just like the bitches wearing them.
bob / June 26, 2010 at 07:38 pm
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*American Apparel photo I meant
steve / June 26, 2010 at 07:41 pm
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They are more then thugs, they are criminals.
This mentally warped pack took over a peaceful demonstration. The real protester were peaceful exercising their democratic right.
Rachel / June 26, 2010 at 07:44 pm
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"do the aboriginals, gays and the likes, the impoverished, the women, or whomever are "protesting" really support these means"

Clearly not. That's the greatest part of this fracas - every jerk I've seen dressed in head-to-toe black, smashing up storefronts and setting things on fire? Have been young white dudes. Oh, those poor white dudes! SO OPPRESSED AND FULL OF RIGHTEOUS RAGE! Society is SO TOUGH and UNFAIR on white dudes!
K. / June 26, 2010 at 07:44 pm
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The stuff along Yonge was caused exclusively by one group, a black bloc. I'm not sure how but they managed to get away from any police presence and made their way up Yonge largely unimpeded, smashing windows along the way. They were confrontational even with the ordinary onlookers. The thing that irks me the most is that not only did they smash up a bunch of big chain stores, but as I followed them up Yonge, they were also smashing relatively small family run business. Take a walk North of Dundas and you'll see not only American Apparel and the Adidas store, but also quite few obscure small busineses.

There was incomplete lack of police presence and most of the area was caught off guard completely. Most of the stores weren't expecting anything and still had merchandise in their windows. I am not sure if there was any looting, but quite a few jewelry stores got hit and had stuff in the windows.
Matt / June 26, 2010 at 07:48 pm
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THESE FOOLS NEED THE SHIT KICKED OUTTA THEM NOT ONLY BY THE POLICE BUT OF THE REAL CITIZENS OF TORONTO. LITTLE BUNCH OF PUSSIES PLAYING DRESS UP. COWARDS ALL NEED TO BE LINED UP AND DEALT WITH
Wendy P. / June 26, 2010 at 07:49 pm
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Wow. This is the sort of behavior that gives these ignorant "anarchist" people so much credibility.
Blech.
Jay / June 26, 2010 at 07:53 pm
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I get so mad looking at these people. The only violence it makes me want to cause it the kind that wipes people that cause shit like this off of the earth. You're proving nothing!

Can we protest the Black Bloc? Maybe we can go and set their homes alight and see how they like their own medicine.

Gah. I'm *SO* mad!
james earl cash replying to a comment from Rachel / June 26, 2010 at 07:54 pm
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if so then where is the condemnation by the protesters of the "black bloc"? all that i read is people blogging and twittering (accusations?) about the police overreacting, intimidating, using tear gas, trampling people on horseback. its all the police's fault. if they don't condemn it does that mean they support it, albeit quietly?

you're right that the police were unprepared. how could you not think yonge street would be overrun by these criminals?
Parker / June 26, 2010 at 07:56 pm
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Why did the police abandon their cars on Queen Street and take off? Why aren't they stopping the fires RIGHT NOW?
K. / June 26, 2010 at 07:58 pm
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Another point worth mentioning about the Yonge St. mob is that there was no chanting, no signs or placards, no message, no protest; just angry looks, smashing and confrontation. Destruction was their only intent.
One voice / June 26, 2010 at 08:00 pm
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Why is it that when a few protesters break some windows it is considered shameful and inexcusable but when our government spends billions of dollars on war and cuts billions of dollars in social spending that ends up hurting untold numbers of people, we are not equally outraged? I'm glad no one was hurt today but sometimes such actions are needed to draw people's attention to how desperate the situation is.
Rachel replying to a comment from james earl cash / June 26, 2010 at 08:02 pm
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They've been denouncing it on CTV, CBC, A-Channel all day.
Rachel replying to a comment from One voice / June 26, 2010 at 08:05 pm
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No, those actions are never justifiable or needed. They delegitimize the message. If Gandhi didn't need to smash windows and beat up security officers, neither do you.
thepolice / June 26, 2010 at 08:05 pm
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the police ran from the protesters on queen and watched from a distance, our billions of dollars hard at work. All the people who are talking all tough lets ship you down there and see if you or the cops run first.
stupidthugs / June 26, 2010 at 08:08 pm
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As far as I'm concerned, let the police have at these assholes destroying my city.

And what's with all the idiots just hanging around 3 feet away from burning vehicles? Are people really this dumb? That picture on your cell phone is so worth it.
james earl cash replying to a comment from One voice / June 26, 2010 at 08:13 pm
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so you think its okay fight fire with fire (although its not nearly on the same scale as you described)? its necessary to cause millions of dollars in damage to draw attention to the billions which you think are being misspent? where does the money come from to repair and replace anything destroyed? do you pay taxes or you don't because you don't like where the money goes?

@Rachel: i've only heard this from various levels of government, police, etc. nothing from ocap or others who organized protests. if those groups indeed denounce violence and rioting, good for them.
The Shakes / June 26, 2010 at 08:17 pm
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These black bloc losers come from all over the world, summits like these are a magnet for these hoodlums. I hope they do manage to arrest a few of them and make them spend a few nights in jail with big large dangerous men looking for fresh meat.

Anyhow in this day and age of teleconferencing, is it really necessary to even hold these summits anymore. Couldn't billions be saved by simply having a web conference.
Elle / June 26, 2010 at 08:27 pm
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Why am I not surprised that a vast majority of the damage has been done by heterosexual, angry white men? This makes me SICK. I have been living in this city for almost 5 years and consider it 'home' now. You'd think with $1 billion spent on security this type of thing wouldn't be happening
anitabot / June 26, 2010 at 08:36 pm
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I find it odd that they would target American Apparel, I understand the argument against capitalism, though isn't AA supposedly fair trade? At least trying to go beyond the usual destructive and exploitative nature of capitalism. Unless of course, their intent was to destroy all participators of capitalism, or to just destroy anything they could.

The pictures are haunting. I am sad that all of this violence and destruction will override the message of the peaceful protestors.
Miss replying to a comment from Elle / June 26, 2010 at 08:36 pm
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That $1 billion spent on security is trying to maintain the chaos. They're doing their best to, not only protect the political leaders but, to stop this riot. We're not paying for nothing. Sure they are not approaching these vandals as it happens but they are trying to not provoke them. They are working with strategies and that is why we don't see them working as fast as we would like them to. It takes thought to deal with such a mass. Can you imagine how this city would be without them right now? Give our police force credit. They are trying to make the best of our money and city.
cheesesnob replying to a comment from One voice / June 26, 2010 at 08:38 pm
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shut up.
bob / June 26, 2010 at 08:40 pm
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The biggest shame (besides no message being brought across) is that the world won't know the fault is from the black bloc - they'll just give protesters an even worse name.

Also, is anybody else reminded of terrorists when they see black blocs?
Bob H / June 26, 2010 at 08:41 pm
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I've been active in protests where we made our point effectively, and scared the hell out of Harper, while maintaining a completely positive relationship with the police.

Those pea-brained G20 vandals don't have a clue about the actual issues, and don't care. 'Protest' is just their rationalization for infantile behaviour. They're nothing but scum.
smiley / June 26, 2010 at 08:59 pm
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mmm... I think we are looking at a buch of happy people downtown today; media seeking anything but scandalous gabs to call it news, feeding fear, unrest and anticipation of destruction to our city by disclosing security measures and keep feeding attention to the thugs which is exactly what they want; various spheres of governments and police forces using this as a perfect opportunity to spend extra budget and garnish their political credentials and put extra weekend pay into their pockets; and bunch of thugs who long for instant recognition or any kind of attention and joyrides. If we keep our cool heads together and see what's happening to our city right now, we would probably realize how vulnerable and naive Canadians are to our authority's decision-making and its consequenses. Since two weeks ago we knew this would happen as media and governments started disclosing to us what security measures they would take when something would happen, and of course it would infuse interests of anarchic people, and that gives perfect justification to the police and the governments to have spend millions of dollars which is our money. It is really unfortunate that media, governments and police, and thugs are there to earn much from this, while the loss is all to us diligent taxpayers. If this is the price we pay for the freedom of speech, whoever is gaining from this should be held accountable so that we (not politicians) can justify our costs. Next time we decide who's going to take position of our authority, we should probably be wiser and not choose the same kind of people as we currently have. At the end of the day, politicians would think "mmm this was a good PR, now I can say I've done something", and media people would say "it was a good day we covered lots of exciting shots and that's what people wanted to see", and police officers smile behind the shields and look forward to the next paycheque, while general public suffer from more governmental debts and shattered storefronts and aftermath of big big masturbation that took place in our city.
brian maltby / June 26, 2010 at 09:07 pm
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the black bloc is doing the damage. from quebec. I followed them to where they're hanging by their bus. just west of dufferin. on the north side street. maybe check it out police?
Harebear / June 26, 2010 at 09:07 pm
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I feel very much irritated by the image of two girls in front of American Apparel store. Their smiles are just disturbing to look at with their t-shirts. "F*** the G20"? seriously? F*** You for thinking that it would be very funny to do that.
It's important that the G20 happens and that the political leaders gather in one place to discuss and debate. The security is there for a reason. Of course they need protection and this violent thuggery just proved it. I understand that for some people it is unfair to spend $1 billion dollars on security for the G20. I respect their opinions and I think it's important for the protesters to express their concerns and thoughts. However, the violence and the damage that this so called Black Block group is plain madness and contradictory. What are they trying to achieve in destroying the city? They only proved how much we need security. If everyone was to be free and if there were no governing principles and rules in our society, we would be living in chaos. We all want to feel secured and protected, so do the leaders of G20? And now there are poor victims from this "thuggery" saying the G20 is the cause of these problems. They didn't prove themselves to be worthy. They just wanted to take the opportunity to demonstrate how ignorant they are.
Joel / June 26, 2010 at 09:09 pm
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Look at all these photographers. Surely SOMEONE got good photos of these "Black Bloc" folks when they stripped into street clothes after raping downtown for their own pleasure. Let's get these photos out there and expose these criminal losers.
The Shakes / June 26, 2010 at 09:11 pm
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Billions spent in security, millions in damages and loss productivity. Isn't hosting fun? Let's see if we can bring the Olympics to Toronto.
inthethick / June 26, 2010 at 09:14 pm
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I was down on queen for 4 hours- felt I should go to protest the inanity of this government and their belief that denying women in developing nations access to abortion is something we are entitled to do. Most people there were there for similar reasons and all but a few were peaceful. The cop cars left on Queen were obviously left with the knowledge that they would get destroyed and that the image would make a great photo showing unruly protestors. I deplore the acts of random smashing, but even more I deplore our current government. Most people there were reasonable, please remember that.
james earl cash / June 26, 2010 at 09:16 pm
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the one thing everyone in my house said is that all eyes were on the protesters and thugs and vandals, no attention paid to the actual summit. giving these criminals attention adds fuel to the fire, they see it as a bigger audience to witness their "protest" and get their "message" across. the police were way way way too restrained and disorganized. however i can understand that even if the cops outnumbered the protesters 10 to 1, they would not be distributed in such a way. in the heat of the moment any officer witnessing a crime would probably focus on that, giving opportunities to the others to engage in further vandalism that may not get addressed until after the fact.
Harebear replying to a comment from smiley / June 26, 2010 at 09:21 pm
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How could you think that they were feeling happy about this whole situation? Do you possible think that the media was extremely happy to cover the stories of 9/11? Not all policemen look at the paycheck. They are just doing their job and they want to be part of a society. They are humans just like us, with feelings and emotions. And the thugs? They were more angry than happy. They needed to release their negative energy and express their anger, and they did so through violence. Do you think they were happy doing harm?
Julie Gyatso / June 26, 2010 at 09:23 pm
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Why no coverage of the peaceful protest that took place at Queen's Park earlier today? The press is complicit in the violence when all they cover is the violence. And James Earl Cash is right, none of the issues discussed at the G8/ G20 or by the peaceful protestors are getting any air time- shame on our media.
iSkyscraper / June 26, 2010 at 09:26 pm
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I feel very sorry for the police and city leaders, who did so much to try to prevent the city getting a bad image during the summit. Unfortunately, the anarchist thugs were clever enough to attack where the police were not, which was away from the security zone.

Some idiot was interviewed on CBC radio as saying that the violence was perfectly ok, since it was against the property of evil multinational corporations and not people. He was at a loss for words, though, when the CBC host asked him how exactly Zanzibar strip club was an "evil multinational corporation".

Really, the pampered leftist youth of the city could use a slap to the head and I hope the police provide it. They protest the police state that surrounds the summit, but do so in a way that rather makes it obvious why the police state is needed. Did they expect the citizens to just let them trash small businesses and franchises at will? Morons.
peace / June 26, 2010 at 09:29 pm
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In Montebello, Quebec in 2007, police used agent provocateurs to provoke violence from protesters:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/248608
JK / June 26, 2010 at 09:36 pm
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this is the most ironic protests ive ever seen in my life. these demonstraitors are taking away the real issues that need to be headlined. i am not a fan of a lot of things about the G20 but this isin't the way to show our world leaders. our city look childish, the BB is throwing a tantrum. i haven't seen any maturity and civil behviour in over 7 hours of watching CP24.

please be safe Toronto...
james earl cash / June 26, 2010 at 09:39 pm
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just playing devils advocate here: do you really think the protesters wouldn't have resorted to violence had they not been provoked by alleged provocateurs? are you certain a true protester wouldn't have escalated to violence anyways? is squashing a problem preemptively a bad thing?
Feldwebel Wolfenstool / June 26, 2010 at 09:49 pm
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Why not call them "restive youths", just letting off steam, like in the France and Malmo Sweden iSlamic riots?
hey / June 26, 2010 at 09:51 pm
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stay home, watch Lost.
Sparky / June 26, 2010 at 09:55 pm
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Hey Smiley- Just so you know, the cops didn't sign up for the paycheque, they signed up because they have honour and love our city.
If you don't like what is happening in your community, here is the great thing about living here, you can run for office and change it. So instead of "blah, blah, blah" ENTER. Why don't you actually go into your community and make a difference?
iSkyscraper / June 26, 2010 at 10:00 pm
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James Earl Cash, without a doubt. Without a doubt. Just read the anarchist websites -- of course they were going to smash things up. It was the game plan all along and they played it perfectly. And seriously, find the archive for CBC radio this afternoon. I think it was around 6 pm ish that they talked to some protester named Bowen, who basically said he was going to trash property as a form of protest.

Talking about "provocateurs" is about as useful as 9/11 conspiracy theory. The cops would have loved to have all collected their fat overtime without incident and gone home. No one wanted this except for the element of thuggish, immature, not-too-bright hard case protesters.
Alpha replying to a comment from Elle / June 26, 2010 at 10:02 pm
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LOL@ your hate of heterosexual white males.

The same people who have invented things that have ensured the progression of the human race from a group of weak hairless primates to the civilization we enjoy today.

I'd bet that even your dildos and vibrators were invented by heterosexual white males!!

LOL @ you and your stupid rants!

JUST LOL!!!!!
Alpha replying to a comment from Elle / June 26, 2010 at 10:06 pm
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Elle should be strung up by her clitoris for inciting misandry!!

Too many of our young white males are being marginalized by stupid dykes like you that couldn't get a date to the prom!!
Darcy McGee / June 26, 2010 at 10:08 pm
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what I hate about this is that if I were in Toronto I'd probably want to BE protesting the event, for some legitimate reasons (short version: all talk, no action, promises made with no intention of being kept) but I can't be associated with this.
Rich / June 26, 2010 at 10:10 pm
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I think the whole purpose of the black bloc is to make harder to find a nation willing to host any Gwhatever in the hopes of forcing them to an isolated island, maybe to make then look bad, or perhaps hoping to get them canceled altogether, I can't imagine any other reasons for them doing what they've been doing. I think they're bored young folks looking for a little adventure in a thoughtless violent vandalism spree pretending to themselves they're doing something useful and not stupid however they didn't overshadow the actual protest the news folks did when they repeatedly talked about the actual protest yet never say anything about what that protest was about. They don't need to go indepth, it would've helped though if they just mentioned the name of the protest and/or which groups were there instead of juts saying they were protesting legitimate issues, name those issues! it's on TV constantly, take a few seconds and actually identify the protest, the black bloc only overshadows the real protest because the media goes along with it.
Ernie Blair / June 26, 2010 at 10:12 pm
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Watching via TV. from a very safe distance of 35 miles from Toronto.. I think of

The 2 soldiers that lost their lives today (as well as the other 148 soldiers )while defending our countries principles.. while some cowardly people behind covered faces terrorized the City of Toronto.

Hopefully, those that participated in these despicable acts are all brought to justice, and given suitable jail terms to stop this madness.

Now.. let us all stand together to end this shameful violence and never ever let it happen again.
Rachel replying to a comment from Alpha / June 26, 2010 at 10:13 pm
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Man, having to deal with negative attitudes thrown at you for inborn, immutable characteristics sucks, don't it? Lucky for you, your particular identity only has to deal with them occasionally, unlike other identities who have to negotiate them on a daily basis.
jamesmallon / June 26, 2010 at 10:15 pm
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What a bunch of unimaginative and property obsessed comments from typical Torontonians. Yeah, the black block are stupid and destructive, but it's just property: well insured corporate property at that. Nothing like the scorn 'world leaders' show for useful change.
samorwell / June 26, 2010 at 10:23 pm
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The correlation between the Black Bloc and White Men, G20 and beyond:
http://thevancouvermanifesto.blogspot.com/2010/06/correlation-between-black-bloc-and.html
tay replying to a comment from samorwell / June 26, 2010 at 10:37 pm
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touche
mel replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / June 26, 2010 at 10:37 pm
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"The cops would have loved to have all collected their fat overtime without incident and gone home. No one wanted this..."

Yeah but then they wouldn't be able to justify spending $1.2 billion at the next summit. In the last two G20 summits in Pittsburgh and London, the combined security cost was $25 million.
Steve / June 26, 2010 at 10:39 pm
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Just property!!! who care who owns it, there is no excuse for anyone but the owner to destroy it. To do other wise is a criminal act By the it was small stores that got damaged, also public property. Tax paid for property, even the poor pay taxes.
I have a home, i have an income, I do good. Does that give you the right to take it away because you have less
james earl cash replying to a comment from jamesmallon / June 26, 2010 at 10:43 pm
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and is it "just property" when its your "property"? would you be comfortable footing the bill or incurring higher insurance premiums because some uncivilized malcontents decided to go on a rampage across your property?
Miss replying to a comment from jamesmallon / June 26, 2010 at 10:47 pm
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Dude, it maybe "just" property but it's money that's coming from someone's pocket. Yeah, yeah you can go on saying how materialistic we are but, wake-up, we live in a civilization that revolves by money. Clothes, food, SHELTER all cost money whether it's from your pocket or someone else's. The property damage is not just physical damage. It's going to affect owners and employees that work there. Insurance is one thing but it's still stressful to deal with.

Aside from that, people got hurt. So no, it's not just property that was just damaged.
Mike replying to a comment from jamesmallon / June 26, 2010 at 10:50 pm
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Hey James,

Where do you live? I feel like burning down your house. That's cool, though, right? It's just property. I'm sure you're insured.
opensource / June 26, 2010 at 10:53 pm
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People can help by sending any photos or information they might have to Toronto Police on the thugs. You can email annonymously - check out their website. While many will be too intimiidated to confront these assholes, you can help catch them, whether they be residents of Toronto or those from elsewhere when they leave the country.
Stefan replying to a comment from Rachel / June 26, 2010 at 10:54 pm
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Seriously, the people who protest the G20 most vociferously are not only those that understand it least, but also have the most means to understand it. Ridiculous!
Robert / June 26, 2010 at 10:54 pm
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Well Destructive people in Toronto streets I would say
give you all fair warning that when asked to move or
stop destruction beware cause we will clear area with these FIRE HOSES , please don't make us use them due to
unruly few of you , keep control of yourself's please ..
This is my sugestion
J / June 26, 2010 at 10:57 pm
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Absolutely disgusting.

Dear Anarchists,

This is my house and you just shit on my lawn and in my backyard. Go home.

Sincerely,

Toronto
Sam replying to a comment from Parker / June 26, 2010 at 10:58 pm
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The fire trucks can't get through because of all the dumbass protesters
Stefan replying to a comment from Rachel / June 26, 2010 at 10:59 pm
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If the Black Bloc's destruction of property during the G20 protests is political expression, then, as self-expression, it is as sophisticated as throwing your poop at someone with whom you disagree. Wait, what? That's exactly what they did? What obviously eloquent chaps who think profoundly about the big issues!
Kevo / June 26, 2010 at 11:01 pm
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I was watching CTV news later on and one of their news guys caught a bunch of them changing in a doorway then found too that had already changed so it looks like some big TV crews found some of those pussies (on top of the hundreds of amateur photographers out on the street). Plus a bunch of them are well known to the cops and are on probation or have had CSIS visit their house before hand.

I saw one scene outside of Eatons Centre where one of the BB guys was trying to smash a Sears window and some guy grabbed him and after about 20 seconds his windbreaker helped him slip away... in a way, I sort of wish there was a bit of mob justice on these BB guys and girls, it'd make them fear everyone around them.
cb10011 replying to a comment from Parker / June 26, 2010 at 11:05 pm
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Are you serious? The cops aren't abandoning, they are protecting our citizens. Their cars are used for barricades and criminals are lighting them on fire. How can you question our police force when we've got maniacs trashing our city right now?? The cops are here to protect lives not their cars.
Dionne / June 26, 2010 at 11:06 pm
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these pieces of shit need to be killed off already! absolutely disgusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they have it coming to them piece of shit protesters!!!!!!!!!!!!
lat replying to a comment from Alpha / June 26, 2010 at 11:07 pm
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but it's the same white heterosexual men who screwed up the world and why we have the G8/20 in the first place!!!
lat replying to a comment from Alpha / June 26, 2010 at 11:08 pm
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white heterosexual men are the most privileged in our society and cause the most damage and hate. shame on you.
lat replying to a comment from Rachel / June 26, 2010 at 11:09 pm
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well said!
Sina / June 26, 2010 at 11:11 pm
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The Toronto Police were too nice to these protesters. These people need to live under a government which would give them a reason to protest, and if they did, it would send out the type of law enforcement that would beat the life out of them. Then they'd understand how much freedom they have in this country. Bunch of ungrateful assholes.
james earl cash / June 26, 2010 at 11:12 pm
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if these thugs and criminals want a world where the laws don't apply, then so be it. let the police use whatever force necessary to get these animals under control, so long as the animals don't cry foul and say the police are breaking the law in the course of doing their jobs.
Queen Bee / June 26, 2010 at 11:12 pm
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those ugly troll bitches probably got their nasty shirts from american apparel and their fat ass muffin top tights as well


Smiley replying to a comment from Sparky / June 26, 2010 at 11:14 pm
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Hey Sparky, you must be joking. Do you honestly believe that they signed up because they have honour and love our city? This idiocy is exactly what I'm talking about! Why are people so blind-foldedly driven by honour and pride here? This is what makes us very vulnerable to the power of authority that undermines democracy. Don't we all realize that there is a huge void of civic ownership in media and government already? Who wanted this to happen to our city anyway and who benefited from this?
Robert Stephens replying to a comment from Sam / June 26, 2010 at 11:14 pm
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Who said Fire Trucks , I said Fire Hoses Fool learn how to read ,
james earl cash replying to a comment from Sina / June 26, 2010 at 11:18 pm
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do them one better. these anarchists want a world with no laws, send them to the lawless regions of northern pakistan, somalia or russia. see how well they fare there.
Robert Stephens replying to a comment from Sam / June 26, 2010 at 11:21 pm
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Who said Fire Trucks , I said Fire Hoses to be use you
do not need a truck , Fire Hydrant Works Also ..
Robert Stephens replying to a comment from Sam / June 26, 2010 at 11:24 pm
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Fire Hydrant work also , you don't need a truck
kelly / June 26, 2010 at 11:26 pm
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Our state is committing (lethal) violence against people in Afghanistan (in our name, with our tax dollars), while some protesters here are damaging some property.

Which is the greater crime?
Laurel replying to a comment from jamesmallon / June 26, 2010 at 11:28 pm
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It is not "just property" and talking about the supposed evils of corporations doesn't justify defacing and destroying property. It's wrong and does nothing to further any cause. Period, end of story, full stop. It gets attention, yes, but none of it's positive and vandalizing makes those in power *less* likely to listen to you and take you seriously, and being violent and destructive serves only to give those who don't want change ammunition to use in smear campaigns of those who do. When all the glass is broken and the last slogan spraypainted, all you have is a huge mess and more enimnity and conflict than there was before.

Those who want change would do well to take a lesson from the American civil rights protesters in the 1960s.
james earl cash replying to a comment from kelly / June 26, 2010 at 11:30 pm
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another one with the "some property" justification. how about me and everyone else here swing by your house tonight and burn it and all your worldly possessions to the ground? is it still gonna be some property that can always be replaced?
Paul replying to a comment from kelly / June 26, 2010 at 11:33 pm
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While I will not condone the violence of the Black Bloc, I wonder why people such as Tony Hayward are allowed to walk this planet as a free man, while somebody who tosses a brick through a window is arrested and thrown in jail.

on one hand, cause a few thousand dollars damage=jail. On the other cause an ecological crisis on a huge scale, kill untold numbers of bird, mammal and marine life, plus cause the loss of livelihood to thousand, you can attend a yacht regatta.
Roger / June 26, 2010 at 11:36 pm
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I was at the protest from just before 1 p.m. until about 5 p.m., mostly south of Queen St., awaiting the hordes of protesters to break through the police lines and try to push towards The Fence. I've uploaded a bunch of photos from the protest <a href="http://www.rogercullman.com/g20"; target="_blank">in this online gallery</a>.
rich / June 26, 2010 at 11:38 pm
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Suppose we cut a whole in the fence and let these people into the meetings, give them all the leadership and responsibilities - They'd be paralyzed, they wouldn't know what to do.
Mike replying to a comment from kelly / June 26, 2010 at 11:40 pm
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I agree, Kelly. Shame on Canada for an invading a peaceful, forward-thinking nation like Afghanistan.
Derek / June 26, 2010 at 11:41 pm
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This is what leftists want: destruction. They have nothing to offer but violence and lunacy.
hawk4256 / June 26, 2010 at 11:42 pm
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I find it quite ironic that some people on this comments board are calling for violence against the rioters when they themselves didn't seriously hurt any people...
Dee / June 26, 2010 at 11:42 pm
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Um, Black Bloc is a form of protest.
hawk4256 / June 26, 2010 at 11:42 pm
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the rioters themselves*
iSkyscraper replying to a comment from Robert Stephens / June 26, 2010 at 11:43 pm
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Hoses, hydrants, whatever -- still needs a firefighter to operate. And firemen will not enter an area where their personal safety is threatened until the police are able to protect them. You could easily see one of the "restive youth" deciding to attack a firefighter as a symbol of authority, or think they were going to use their hoses on the crowd, etc.
Derek / June 26, 2010 at 11:43 pm
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If the Toronto Police can't keep order, then business owners should be allowed to own guns and be allowed to use them to protect their property. The first priority of government is supposed to be security.
Rachel replying to a comment from Derek / June 26, 2010 at 11:45 pm
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"This is what anarchists want: destruction. They have nothing to offer but violence and lunacy."

Fixed that for you.
Mark Shetfield replying to a comment from bob / June 26, 2010 at 11:47 pm
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"No one will ever know" .. really? It's plain as day - because it's history, not current economy. I agree that it's not the most noble of demonstrations and I don't condone violence, but do find it refreshing that some people are finally not taking any of this crap these corperations have been dealing us for quite some time. "Boo hoo, American Appearal has to buy a new window - where ever will they find the money :'("
steeeve03 / June 26, 2010 at 11:49 pm
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talk-action=0 Just ask any politician, after all that's what they do best. That's pretty much what every one who commented on this report has managed. Zero. Now, if you tough guys who are coming down hard on the protesters DID something, instead of talking about it....See the point? All these government leaders and representatives are just pis*ing on your legs and telling you it's raining. As for running for office and making changes? Really? Assuming that you'd actually win (running against million dollar budgets) all you'd end up doing is occupying a seat (keeping it warm really) listening to a bunch of millionaires disagree about everything. They don't want to rock the boat, or lose any lucrative contracts that may come their way. The cops know that just talking is useless too, because people won't stop breaking windows if you just ask them too. Works both ways.
steve / June 26, 2010 at 11:50 pm
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We get rid of the police, and arm everyone. Interesting, how is that safer?
Please explain how we would be better?
Dave / June 26, 2010 at 11:52 pm
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I would like to commend the Toronto Police, OPP, RCMP and other Police Service helping to maintain control in the streets of Toronto. There are up against so many and are trying to handle the situation as professionally as they can. I wish that those that are not part of the BLOC group would help the Police anyway they possibly can. You have a right to have your voices heard but your message is being overshadowed by the senseless and criminal acts of a small group of people performing COWARDLY ACTS.

PLEASE stand-up for your cause and help those that are trying to help you!
Kelly / June 26, 2010 at 11:53 pm
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Yawn... I challenge the media to do the responsible thing and stop covering this crap. Cover the legitimate voices protesting injustice and inequality, cover the actual G20 meetings and issues, ignore these petty children challenging "authority" yet likely have no idea what it is like to be in a militant state. Don't cover these idiots, and take away their voice, they don't deserve to be noticed by civilized people.
margaret replying to a comment from Dionne / June 26, 2010 at 11:59 pm
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The ones causing trouble aren't protesters. They're ignorant dumbasses who give the word "protest" and awful name.
james earl cash / June 26, 2010 at 11:59 pm
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the people who want g20 and foreign leaders to be held accountable for all the damage, destruction, etc in the world are hiding behind masks and costumes so that they don't have to be held accountable for all the damage and destruction they are causing around the city of toronto.

yeah that makes sense.
kelly replying to a comment from Mike / June 27, 2010 at 12:00 am
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"I agree, Kelly. Shame on Canada for invading a peaceful, forward-thinking nation like Afghanistan."

What right do we have to attack *any* country? Unless the Afghan army is flying warplanes into our territory first, *we* are the aggressors.

It's funny how some of the commenters here lash out so much at a small group of vandals but seem to have little outrage for all the civilian deaths we are responsible for in Afghanistan and elsewhere. State violence is largely hidden from our eyes while street crime is shown in full detail on every news channel round the clock.
barfo / June 27, 2010 at 12:05 am
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There's plenty of footage of the black assholes changing their clothes. It'll be out tomorrow all over the news. CP 24 has already shown a clip showing two assholes down by King and Bay.

I'm pretty sure the cops have been following them through the night and are probably waiting for them to amass together. Then hopefully the rubber bullets will fly into their faces.
Harebear replying to a comment from Smiley / June 27, 2010 at 12:16 am
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=_= I'm sorry but your opinion is totally biased and you are just making generalized statements. Who knows, you might be right. May be some do sign up for the money. Don't forget there are many others who did not sign up for money. Do you think every person in the world does what he/she does for money? What about passion? Dream? If money is everything and everything in life has to do with money, why don't we all just want to be in a job that pays us the highest wage? Some people actually want to enjoy what they do and feel happy about it and they don't do it just for the money. Have some respect for the police officers.
Keith / June 27, 2010 at 12:20 am
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The Black Bloc and Al Qaeda would get along quite well. I hope their photo op is over and the police are finishing their job tonight while the rest of us sleep.
I don't want to see those thugs back on the street tomorrow doing more of the same. Protesters I have no problem with. Black Bloc degenerates - surround them with force when they appear and don't let them go - let them disappear.
B replying to a comment from Julie Gyatso / June 27, 2010 at 12:33 am
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The CBC was airing news from the actual summit almost exclusively this evening.
Lizzie / June 27, 2010 at 12:47 am
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whatever you do, stop blaming the security. they did more than what they did in Pittsburgh and utilized resources in the best way they could but it isn't exactly like this is something that happens EVER here.
Anom / June 27, 2010 at 12:47 am
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Bill Blair said in a press conference that no rubber bullets were used today, the caption under one of the photos is wrong.
Brian / June 27, 2010 at 12:47 am
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Everybody who thinks it's funny to say "uh, I think McDonald's and Starbucks can afford to replace a few windows," you seem to be under the impression that there's a big corporate window repair slush fund and that it's not going to have to be paid by that local store, that the management won't have to find the money to repair it or pay higher insurance premiums and will quite possibly have to cut back on staff, hurting good people who work there, you live in some kind of a dream world.
Anom / June 27, 2010 at 12:48 am
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Bill Blair tonight in a press conference said no rubber bullets were use saturday... one of the captions is wrong.
Anom / June 27, 2010 at 12:48 am
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Bill Blair tonight in a press conference said no rubber bullets were use saturday... one of the captions is wrong.
asdf sdf / June 27, 2010 at 12:48 am
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Bill Blair tonight in a press conference said no rubber bullets were use saturday... one of the captions is wrong.
anom / June 27, 2010 at 12:49 am
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I'm sorry for spamming that rubber bullet question, it was saying my message wasn't going through
anom / June 27, 2010 at 12:49 am
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comment*
Shocked / June 27, 2010 at 12:53 am
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Shame on BlogTO for the sensationalist and biased photos. None of these photos show the solidarity and respect of the people that I witnessed when I was walking the streets on Saturday. None of these photos depict any of the issues that were being voiced.

Shame, BlogTO. You're no better than the mainstream media.
wierd / June 27, 2010 at 12:55 am
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something is not right about this. i mean why would the cops stand a side when people are beating the hell out of there cars. the cops were just watching they didn't even move an inch. and on college street the cops showed up 30min after the distractions. something is wierd about this and i have a feeling that it involves politics.
POed replying to a comment from One voice / June 27, 2010 at 12:58 am
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And i'm sure that will get that message out to them.
Oh yah brokens windows, yes the broken windows represents our broken society and our broken societal views!

@smiley, and you knwo cause you they were the jerks in highschool you always hated? Doubt it. I actually have a buddy that's down there. They already make enough money doing there jobs as is, this is probably the lsat thing they wanted to do.

I'm not saying that the G20 was necessary, at the same time necessary to even have in our city. It could of been done wirelessly over the internet or even done on the Toronto Islands. Just I think Canada becoming a police state is probably one the last things that will happen. I'll definitely be standing out there with them if I see things heading that way!
G Smith / June 27, 2010 at 01:03 am
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I don't really want to wade too deeply into this, but regarding the comments about the "black bloc" being mostly male, the footage shown on CP24 and CTV clearly shows a number of females involved, either doing the smashing themselves or shielding the smashers from cameras using umbrellas, etc.

As to the their sexuality, that wasn't evident from the videotape? However it is not unusual to see argumentation related to homophobia (and transphobia, too, for that matter) as forms of systemic violence included radical anarchist rhetoric as justifiction for this kind of violence. So I wouldn't be too cavalier about those assertions, either.
Bonnie / June 27, 2010 at 01:05 am
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Do you really think that the world leaders at the G20 are going to watch footage of the protests, turn to each other and say, "Hey, know what? They have a point. Let's go down and have a thoughtful discussion with them."

Nothing will change, no matter how loud your voice is. Sad, but true. Let's channel our energy for the next federal election and work to get Harper out of office.
C. Woods replying to a comment from thepolice / June 27, 2010 at 01:14 am
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Those police officers also have families to go home to. Why should their loved ones lose them because of a bunch of idiots. Their jobs are to serve and protect but clearly they are far outnumbered. To ask a handful of officers to stay in a situation where they will be killed to prevent some smashed windows and save a couple of cars is ridiculous.
samorwell / June 27, 2010 at 01:22 am
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yikes
more to come...
Angry Voter / June 27, 2010 at 01:34 am
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Haven you seen the clips from past events?

People exposed the attackers as police agents.

They were wearing police issue boots and when confronted they ran to the police line for safety.

It's all an act to scam the public into giving up their rights.

Remember, the IRA nailbombs were organized by a UK intelligence agent. It's public record, go look it up.
Nolol / June 27, 2010 at 01:35 am
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I blame Nickleback.
B. replying to a comment from james earl cash / June 27, 2010 at 01:39 am
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Since you were playing devil's advocate or whatever I'll just pop in here and say that *mostly* anarchists target large companies like Starbucks and banks.
They can afford to fix things, they're not mom and pop shops and it's not really the same as going to someone's house to break stuff.
If you have that much sentimentality about Starbucks then maybe their "You're an individual! You're special! This is your space!" marketing is too effective.

Just sayin'!

However, it still sucks that those parts of the city are a mess, but I'm seriously not going to shed any tears for Starbucks as whole, maybe just some for the people who have to work there. I'm sure they'll fix them up quickly though.

Now, if they had tried to come near the place I work (family run business), I would have been out front with a bat.
B. replying to a comment from Sina / June 27, 2010 at 01:45 am
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While I understand your anger, I think we do live under a government that gives us reason to protest--that protesting should just be peaceful.
There doesn't have to be a murderous dictatorship to want change, and freedom is something everyone should have. It would really suck to have to start figuring out who 'deserves it'.
POed replying to a comment from Angry Voter / June 27, 2010 at 01:45 am
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That may be true for other countries but I seriously doubt it for Toronto. I've seen the videos of them exposing them. These were bulky guys, the ones throwing shit and smashing windows were skinny and threw hammers like a girl i doubt they were shit disturbing to give protestors a bad name.
Tom / June 27, 2010 at 01:55 am
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Those burning cop cars were planted and set on fire by the police themselves to justify the security expenditure.
Libero / June 27, 2010 at 01:56 am
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It is necessary to break your Canada a little... Live behind the back of the USA, учавствуя in all its aggressive wars
B. / June 27, 2010 at 02:01 am
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Hmm, good point. I recant some of my statement, lest it be brought up, as I don't know enough about the financial structure of Starbucks franchises.
hank rearden replying to a comment from kelly / June 27, 2010 at 02:31 am
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Umm - Hellloooo Kelly...

You *do* remember 9/11 right? You know when terrorist controlled aircraft attacked 3 different locations in the U.S?

You know - like *exactly* how you said "flying warplanes into our territory". Umm ya - I'm going to have to take your critical thinking badge away.

You see, the Taliban gave tacit, if not explicit support for Al Qaeda to attack the west. They attacked the west in '92, '93, '98 and 2000 before 9/11 and 7/7.

So - ya, we were justified in our self defence to attack Afghanistan... unfortunately.
ggg / June 27, 2010 at 02:56 am
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Shamed to live here!
kelly replying to a comment from hank rearden / June 27, 2010 at 02:57 am
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9/11 was a *response* to years of U.S. & Western violence perpetrated against the Middle East. Never forget that. If you believe otherwise you need to learn your history and stop getting all your information from the evening news. 3,000 were killed on 9/11 while 500,000 *civilians* were killed in Iraq by the brutal economic sanctions in the 90s. 9/11 was a response (however criminal) to that and other atrocities committed by Western countries for decades.

If we are so against the Taliban, why did we (the U.S.) put them in power in the first place and support them financially and logistically while they committed their *worst* crimes (and we knew of them). Why were they invited to the White House and commended for their policies while the U.S. government knew what they were doing. Where was our supposed concern for women's rights, etc. then?

Unfortunately your comment demonstrates the well-meaning ignorance of the typical Canadian. You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories to know that the world is not really the way it is portrayed in our media. Open your eyes, all the information is out there if you make the effort.
Maureen / June 27, 2010 at 03:13 am
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Governments of the Free World...if you can mark and identify Terrorist for No Fly and No Entry... consider the Profesional Riot-idiots. Black Block etc... they too are terrorist and should be on No Fly and No Entry lists around the world! Peaceful demonstration is a right. Freedom of speech is a right. THIS IS CANADA.... we have rights BUT burning and/or destroying a city and/or terrorizing its citizens is not a right. It's called war.
samorwell replying to a comment from Nolol / June 27, 2010 at 04:37 am
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@nolol
ahaahahaha
colleen / June 27, 2010 at 04:55 am
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Everybody is screaming out there. I don't agree with these black whatever, but you have to agree that the politicains in this country are dictators. They promise the moon till they get into power. Then they do what they want to do. That is no democricy. Yes we can have peaceful demintrations, that's allowed. But when they are not listening to (voted in by the people, for the people)
What are we supposed to do?
We pay their wages. They have a responsability to us. They live a pretty good life on our money.
What right do they have to hold secret meeting behide our backs?
Yes I want to know if you are having an affair, if you have broken your word to someone whom you took a vow with-then how far can I trust you-you don't even know me.
I think that all people that are hired, should be in a position to be fired.
But alas Canada is not a democratic country. I just wish more people could see it.
Goblin / June 27, 2010 at 05:10 am
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И сраных полицаев - тоже!
Goblin / June 27, 2010 at 05:10 am
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А, вот так их - глобалистов сраных!
Union Station / June 27, 2010 at 06:20 am
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It was irresponsible of Harper to insist on holding the meeting where he did and refusing to allow the city's elected leaders any input.
I think that like with all previous G- meetings the idea is to ensure that the meeting's agenda and proceedings should be removed from public view in favor of smoke, broken glass,and heavily armed police.
I suppose the whole event has played out exactly as planned.
The state is well ahead of the people at this point.
Union Station replying to a comment from hank rearden / June 27, 2010 at 06:32 am
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Have you heard of Saudi Arabia or Israel mate?
Are you familiar with the Bush family
and their personal,political,and business connections there.
The US history of war and subterfuge and in the middle east goes well back before 9-11.
The Shakes / June 27, 2010 at 07:03 am
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I hope the jail they are keeping these black bloc losers in has bedbugs.
Sarkozy replying to a comment from kelly / June 27, 2010 at 07:25 am
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Moron
Sarkozy replying to a comment from kelly / June 27, 2010 at 07:25 am
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Moron
Jaketoronto / June 27, 2010 at 08:08 am
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These violent G20 protesters need to get the f*ck OUT of our city. YOU ARE NOT OR NO LONGER WELCOME HERE. Your outward violence protest is unintelligently ineffective. Get out of our city before WE THROW YOU OUT, violently.
Lisa / June 27, 2010 at 08:14 am
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My heart hurts this morning, this is not the Toronto I know. I have nothing but praise for the police, they did what they could with what they were facing. Damn those Black Bloc thugs, they did NOTHING to prove their point, only to be menacing, marauding bastard criminals. String 'em up I say!
DangerGirl / June 27, 2010 at 08:24 am
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Paging ONE VOICE STFU. Yeah You Heard Me. SHUT THE F**K UP! Go peddle you're tired 1960's rehash crap somewhere else.

Paging Kelly - STFU. Go back to sticking your head up your ass.Or better yet - hook up with OneVoice and I"ll buy you both a one way ticket to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

Black Bloc: all white males -( clearly biogots) who hide behind masks - just like the KKK and Al Queda - only dumber!
Pete! / June 27, 2010 at 08:52 am
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DISGRACEFULL...........PERIOD!
Justin replying to a comment from anitabot / June 27, 2010 at 09:05 am
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I guess the protesters are mad that AA sends money to Haiti and are anti-sweatshop?

What a bunch of idiots.
Malcolm / June 27, 2010 at 09:22 am
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Twats.
Libero / June 27, 2010 at 09:27 am
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Has got to 53 state of USA... This too small punishment for the world economic crisis. The USA and allies have robed all other world.
Libero / June 27, 2010 at 09:27 am
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Has got to 53 state of USA... This too small punishment for the world economic crisis. The USA and allies have robed all other world.
Rachel replying to a comment from Libero / June 27, 2010 at 09:38 am
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Shut up, asshat.
pissed / June 27, 2010 at 09:40 am
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Those so called "bloc" freaks want anarchy and disorder? Go live in the Congo you stupid wusses, experience true lack of government control and anarchy and see if that is what you want. But go get a gym membership and woodworking lessons first, based on the footage, my baby daughter swings a hammer better than you guys.
O'Leary replying to a comment from bob / June 27, 2010 at 09:46 am
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The police did a great job and having had a friend in Riot gear I was happy to hear the police were not going to rush into the Vandals (I refuse to call them protesters ... they weren't protesting anything, just destroying property)and escalate violence. Also, when they did move in it was calm and quick and controlled meaning no serious injuries occurred. People who think the police should have CRASHED in guns blaring risking their lives, and spectators lives for windows and cop cars are just as scary to me as the vandals.

Thanks to the Toronto emergency services for doing all they have thus far.
james earl cash replying to a comment from B. / June 27, 2010 at 09:48 am
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so if something can be easily replaced because the owner has the means to replace it, there's no problem with someone else destroying it? how much money do you make in a year? if i think its too much i'm going to come and smash your windows because you'll have no problem replacing them. you don't like what a mnc stands for, thats your right. you want to destroy property because you don't like the owner, you're a low life criminal.
Jason Fonceca / June 27, 2010 at 09:53 am
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So much buzz, so much controversy, so many opinions..


Man, I effing love Toronto :)
http://jasonfonceca.com/images/i_love_toronto.jpg
Magda replying to a comment from Union Station / June 27, 2010 at 10:08 am
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Great point. As if Harper and his crew had noooooo idea that these types of things would occur. As if they truly thought it's best for the downtown of Toronto to host this. Why are there no protocols in place for our city's leaders to have a voice within the larger governmental milieu? No one wanted this in the city core yet it still happened.<br>

I am curious about the consequences of the Summit and whether there will be any for Harper.<p>

Magda / June 27, 2010 at 10:12 am
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To the person who blamed Nickelback >> You were right on the money.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7624440@N03/4725420012/
Stevie Z / June 27, 2010 at 10:20 am
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Your blog post is inacurrate and amateurish. It has already been established that it was NOT the legitimate protesters causing the damage, and to continually refer to the a-holes who smashed and burned makes it appear that either you have no clue, or are simply looking for controversy. The violence completely undermined the messages of the protesters and zeroed out ANY chance they had of helping their cause. Legitimate protest is a democratic right (and duty!) however I would love to see lots and lots of video and photos of the police beating the spleens out of those who choose to subvert peaceful demonstration for their own wanton desire to destroy.
mmg replying to a comment from DangerGirl / June 27, 2010 at 10:21 am
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I guess when you can't critique someone rationally, all you can try to do is silence them. Well done, your comments illustrate just how right the other posters are!
Dave / June 27, 2010 at 10:35 am
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Made me sick that there were 30 watchers standing by taking pictures and videos while one of these fuckers (from out of town) did their damage to OUR city. Lots of options. Could have taken one of those little pricks and tossed them into one of the burning cop cars. If a mob did it, no one could get nailed and that would have shut those fuckers up. Every body could have picked up a rock and stoned them. All it would have taken was one to start it and the rest of the crowd would have joined in. Could have grabbed one (just one is all you would need) and tie them to the bumper of a car and dragged them through the streets in front of the rest of them. There were lots of things people could have done rather than just stand there while these pieces of shit destroyed our city.
MTwain / June 27, 2010 at 11:17 am
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I spent about five hours throughout yesterday watching the news and every time I went back I could not believe what was going on. This was not my city I was seeing.
The violence and vandalism that streaked through the downtown area infuriates me. Anyone who participated in these acts, the ones which completely derailed a perfectly legitimate protest, should leave this city immediately, you are not Torontonians or Canadians as far as I'm concerned.
Dave / June 27, 2010 at 11:35 am
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Morons and cowards, every single one of them. They are the reason security is so intense. Also, the idiots that turn up to gawk at these miscreants are part of the problem. If these attention whores didn't have an audience they would probably go home. They aren't committed to a cause, they just want to fling crap and cause problems. They are an evolutionary step backwards. Actually nix that, even chimps are better behaved.
POed replying to a comment from DangerGirl / June 27, 2010 at 11:44 am
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Girl, what's with the swearing. Kelly is right, or are you scared to pick up a book and read about it, and realize how small you really are. The US is soo much more involved in pushing a war for the OIL rather than what had happened on 911.

G20 is unnnecessary to have in toronto, or to have at a place at all.
what the black block have done is outrageous!
Simuls / June 27, 2010 at 11:59 am
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I would agree with many commenters that it is imperative that we distinguish between 3 different groups who were part of the crowd in downtown Toronto.

First, there were the protesters who, in every situation I saw, were peaceful. Depending on where you were and when, they would make up 10-90% of the crowd.

Then there were the curious onlookers - people like me who live in the middle of the downtown core who just wanted to see what was going on - again depending on when/where, numbers were 10-90%.

Then there were the vandals/anarchists who were neither curious nor protesting and simply wanted to shit disturb and destroy stuff. They were unbelievably small in number and I mostly saw them in groups of 1 or 2. Out of the entire crowd they probably made up less than .1%.

The media have been atrocious and editorial in referring to everyone they see as protestors and CP24 and Ann Rohmer in particular were beyond egregious in their attitudes and generalizations. Living in the exact area where cp24 was located I was in the middle of it all and their reporting was biased and amazingly incorrect most of the time.

I must say, however, that while the police were restrained in that they didn't just rush headlong into the crowd and start whacking people and the arrests were definitely more surgical in nature, the massive police presence itself was gasoline for a fire that was very very small and contributed largely to the unrest. The aggressive stance (feet wide apart, arms on shoulders), banging on riot shields (when nothing but peaceful protest was in evidence), and shouting things like "GET OUT OF THE WAY, I'M NOT STOPPING" when marching up a mostly empty side street instead of just saying "Please move, we're coming through", highlighted the very "us" vs "them" attitude and confrontational nature that had been drummed into the police corps from the ISU.

From all that I saw in downtown Toronto yesterday (and I was all over the place), the confrontations would have been smaller, the damage less intense, and the overall atmosphere substantially improved had the police force been at least 50 if not 80% less (or at least less visible).

The thugs need to be dealt with, as Canadians we all feel that way, but to be intimidated by your own police, being paid with your own tax dollars, engenders feelings of anger and oppression (and I'm sure many of the police also hated the situation they were forced to be in). I love this city, I appreciate it's safety and think our police do a great job, but the image of riot officers by the hundreds along the Queen West will be an image I'll never forget. I guess both Toronto and myself lost a lot of innocence today.
Sad Day / June 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm
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If you have those block bloc guys as much as i do and want them get out of our city follow me in a protest chant by including it in your message. BLACK BLOCS ARE STUPID C**KS! BLACK BLOCS ARE STUPID C**KS!
MTwain / June 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm
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Another thing that genuinely frustrated me was the fact that people were so resistant toward the police when all they were trying to do was disperse crowds who covered entire city blocks. Then they have the nerve to yell "who's streets? are streets!" They are not your streets because "you" are only a few hundred people out of the millions of people who live in this city, most of which do NOT want crowds of people charging down the streets in front of their homes and businesses and disrupting traffic for those who are only trying to pass by. Also if they are "your" streets where the hell are you for the rest of the 364 days of the year? The street is not a place for people to gather are cause a ruckus even if it is for the sake of protest. Stick to parks and designated areas and stay out of OUR STREETS and let the police do there job.
MTwain / June 27, 2010 at 12:35 pm
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sorry, nearly forgot. BLACK BLOCS ARE STUPID C**KS! BLACK BLOCS ARE STUPID C**KS!
wassat / June 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm
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that chair is $1,399?!

Hank Rearden replying to a comment from kelly / June 27, 2010 at 12:54 pm
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Ok - one last time - critical thinking 101.

So - you first start off by asserting that 9/11 could be justified b/c of 500k lives lost in Iraq/ME- thus 3000<500k, so it's justified. Again - two wrongs don't make a right. Secondly, those 500k lives lost, were totally unnecessary. The Middle east is run by corrupt plutocratic leaders. I am sure the U.S. / West get no satisfaction from sanctions - we just want change. Do you object to sanctions on Iran after how the Iranian government put down *real* opposition to a democratic movement? Maybe you'd prefer we sat out of involvement - even when the opposition leaders in Iran beg/plead/bleed for our assistance...?

Ask yourself one question today - then look for the answer - why is Gaza and The West Bank blockaded by Egypt and Jordan? (hint - the big bad U.S. is NOT the answer)

Secondly - you are also correct - we (the west) didn't care how Afghanistan treated their wives and daughters - until AQ attacked us. Why did the west like the Taliban? Well, they had almost entirely stopped opium production. So, now use your critical thinking - why would we attack a government that we had previously seen as a friend? What had changed? Hint - the 9/11 was an inside job theory is also *not* the right answer.

My friend - my eyes are wide open - and I have been studying these topics for a lifetime. You are correct that the media are not your friend (what bleeds -leads) but the crazy whacko side conspiracy theories are so poorly reasoned to be farcical.

Libero / June 27, 2010 at 01:16 pm
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&;code=BUR20100627&articleId=19928 ...no comment...
POed replying to a comment from Hank Rearden / June 27, 2010 at 01:21 pm
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two wrongs certainly don't make a right, but the US returning to continuously bomb urban cities, and having such huge civilian casualties is necessary too? and we still haven't caught Osama Bin Laden. Its just ridiculous.

Oh rich minerals and resources inside Afganhistan obviously there was a reason to attack Afgan.
JJP replying to a comment from Hank Rearden / June 27, 2010 at 01:22 pm
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Unless I misread, Kelly didn't say 9/11 was "justified," he/she just said it was in response to previous U.S. violence. In other words: WE started the violence, not them, which any student of history knows is correct. Kelly also did not advance any "conspiracy theory" - in fact, he/she said you don't have to resort to conspiracy theories to understand the underlying causes. Instead of scolding others to be more critical in their reasoning, perhaps you should do so yourself. You obviously didn't understand the point Kelly was making.
Hank Rearden replying to a comment from JJP / June 27, 2010 at 01:52 pm
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What?

Really - you think you can just sneak in a little "which any student of history knows is correct"... why - because you say so?

Are you really going to start down the road of "well THEY/WE started it". That is incredibly juvenile. How far back in history are we going to go? The crimean war? Blame this on the crusades? Maybe the expulsion of the Israelites out or Egypt? Really?

Maybe it's time to think that modern states don't really like war - they are expensive and messy, but sometime necessary to protect our way of life. I am pretty sure most Canadians don't like the war in Afghanistan - but I am also sure that they would rather be fighting in the sh*thole of Afghanistan than watching our buildings attacked, repeatedly.

How many airplanes need to be attacked/hijacked? How many subways need to be bombed? Please tell me when you feel it would be justified to fight back?

As to the 1Bil in mineral resources in Afghanistan - it isn't like we are going to steal the minerals (how?) - the Afghanis need to mine them (hint - CHINA already has an operating copper mine in Afghanistan) - we are helping the Afghanis' find a means of economic development that doesn't involve poppy production...
Will replying to a comment from Hank Rearden / June 27, 2010 at 02:18 pm
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Please do some research before making uninformed comments. Here's a good place to start:

http://killinghope.org/

That's all I have to say.
M.Haliburton / June 27, 2010 at 02:29 pm
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What's "wrong with this picture" (all of the above pix)? The police knew ahead of time that this black-clad group announced that they were planning violence. So why didn't cops track their movements and move in ahead of time to isolate them from the general crowd of peaceful protesters? Instead, authorities waited until the group changed out of black outfits to ordinary clothes to hide in the crowd, and only then start forcing the whole crowd back.

Were both sides using citizens of Toronto as a human shield?

Was this an exercise to intimidate everyone who wants to protest peacefully?

Though described as "anarchist" this group behaves more like a mercenary army. It's possible that they were hired to create this disruption. Was this set up to justify the all the riot police and the big expensive fence and security operation?

It hardly represents how people in Canada normally act. I hope that our government will think twice before ever holding any such event in a city downtown again. We have the entire Northwest Territories and lots of small towns up there. Why not just move the G20 up north? Then they won't have to shut down businesses and put them at risk of damage from rent-a-vandal gangs working for god-knows-whom.
Hank Rearden replying to a comment from Will / June 27, 2010 at 02:30 pm
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Which comments do you feel are uninformed?

I'm happy to cite my sources for your research/info.

As to your link - ever read Thucydides?
rm / June 27, 2010 at 02:42 pm
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arrest all these people and make them pay a fine to recoup the cost of this mess. I am disgusted at Torontians right now. You want to make this city a third world country > Go back to yours and hopefully the police just start shooting the ones with the loudest mouths.Also free health care shouldnt be provided to any protester hurt in their little games of destruction.
ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 02:48 pm
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You are all stupid fucks , in my country we wouldnt have this.Stupid Canadian laws and rules .Israelis suck and Egypt rules
Sad Day / June 27, 2010 at 03:18 pm
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ramez takawy, you are sadly mistaken
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24001618/
check that out, this kind of bs happens everywhere.
BLACK BLOCS ARE STUPID C**KS!
Rachel replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 03:49 pm
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Thanks, that was *incredibly* insightful and constructive commentary.
M.Haliburton / June 27, 2010 at 03:56 pm
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If a group really wants to bring issues forward, apparently the time to do it was BEFORE the leaders arrived. Back before the planned violence, the radio reports actually told us what groups were protesting, mostly in a creative manner, and what issues they were concerned about.

Once the confrontation gets going, all the issues are snowed under. There's not much point in being out on the street unless it's to try to get video documentation of who is actually committing vandalism.
POed replying to a comment from Hank Rearden / June 27, 2010 at 04:24 pm
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Not everything done in Middle East is done with transparency? Are we really helping these countries? Wouldn't some of them be better left alone with their own politics, enforcing democracy on other countries isn't always the correct way to go by. How can you give the choice to the citizens when the citizens won't make the proper decisions for themselves especially in the situation and the state they're left in.

To say that we have our freedom now because they have been fought for is still confirmation bias. AlthoughI agree that we had to follow the US into war, but continue to this very day i think is ludicrous. They claim weapons of mass destruction yet no evidence was provided.
ramez takawy replying to a comment from Rachel / June 27, 2010 at 05:03 pm
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Thanks for your insight Rachel but you know nothing, if you were from Egypt you would know that we would not tolerate this>I hate living in Canada and the politics here are crazy
Sad Day replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 05:11 pm
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I WILL REPEAT - ramez takawy, you are sadly mistaken
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24001618/
check that out, this kind of bs happens everywhere.
BLACK BLOCS ARE STUPID C**KS!
Brad MacDonald / June 27, 2010 at 05:14 pm
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Why don't we just hire the "Angles" to supply street protection. Our police are too nice and have too many restriction on engagement

. 150 Hells Angels would have settled those black bloc punks down in 10 minutes.




Danny Las Vegas / June 27, 2010 at 05:17 pm
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Hopefully these "Black Blocs" will spend the weekend in a cramped jail cell, being raped repeatedly in the ass by big "Black Cocks".
Sad Day replying to a comment from Brad MacDonald / June 27, 2010 at 05:28 pm
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but then what would we do about the hells angels running round the streets. i guess we could let loose a pack of hungry gorillas but then what about the gorillas. well i guess they would die off come winter.
Shawn / June 27, 2010 at 05:32 pm
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In the photo with a poster of Mao Zedong, it seems that the protesters want a Communist revolution, eh? They want one just like Mao Zedong carried out?! Then go f#cking live in China and see how many things you can smash before tanks are up your ass.

F#ck you!
WOODY replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 05:39 pm
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Ramez............if youdont like it here...by ALL means leave!!! We promise not to stop you.
WOODY replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 05:42 pm
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Ramez...If you don't like it by ALL means leave!!!! We promise not to stop you...and we sure won't miss you.
union Station / June 27, 2010 at 06:00 pm
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I wanted to study the meeting's agenda.
I wanted proceeding to be broadcast.
I was going to base my next vote in part on what was said on my behalf. I was denied that information.
I'm left with the government's spin.
Democracy cannot work that way.
A / June 27, 2010 at 06:02 pm
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These people are absolutely DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!! These are people are so ungrateful!
Bony Loft replying to a comment from james earl cash / June 27, 2010 at 06:19 pm
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I suspect these s... disturbers are infiltrated and paid by the POLICE to cause the damages.
What better why to avoid talking about the issues than to break few windows and throw the naif media on a tangent . Half of these so called anarchists kids work for the government.


Rachel / June 27, 2010 at 06:27 pm
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I can't believe Canada went from Vancouver to Toronto in four months.

Also, looking at the "Resistance is the solution" sign, it makes me think of every single stupid pet cause that the Uoft groups UTSU, No One Is Illegal, OPIRG, and SAIA have advocated with the same sign. Coincidence?

I can't even believe all of this is real. My heart is broken.
Hank Rearden replying to a comment from Bony Loft / June 27, 2010 at 06:41 pm
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Really? You believe that?

I was thinking of saying something impolite - but instead I'll just say this;

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

ramez takawy replying to a comment from WOODY / June 27, 2010 at 07:21 pm
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Why would i leave Woody . I get free health care , free money and go home when I like. You capitalist pigs and all white people are why the rest of the world fights> I spit in ur face
Sad Day replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 07:47 pm
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ramez takaway you sad fool. number one you clearly embrace our system as you mention how you get free health care, number 2 you call us capitalist pigs even though your home Egypt is also a capitalist nation, number 3 the reason wars are started is because of the very type of hatred you seem to be directing toward specific groups of people like, as you said earlier, "white people". If you can't accept that Canada is a great nation why are you here? Was it your parents who brought you here and if so why the hell are you being such an ungrateful prick when your parents had the intention of giving you total freedom?
Rachel replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 07:56 pm
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Perhaps you should use the free health care to get your head checked out, because that was a lot of garbled, hateful shit that doesn't make any sense. We "white people" provide health care and freedom, and try not to beat down on citizens, and we're the reason the rest of the world fights?

(Also, there are two Rachel's on this thread; the one above is not the one who's commented in this thread and the others.)
Peter / June 27, 2010 at 09:20 pm
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Ramez, you make me sick. If you hate our country of "capitalist pigs," then leave and stop taking advantage of its benefits. You are nothing more than a thief.
Nunyabiz / June 27, 2010 at 09:33 pm
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These people are sick that did this they talk about hating this G20 but yet take a look in the mirror you are no better for what you have done here..... Scaring the city and corrupting the world for nothing think about the children and what you are teaching them and making them feel unsafe.... Grow the F*ck up..... Act like a citizen not a criminal... No pity for where you spent the night in a detention center they shouldn't have fed you at all.... They should have treated you like the animals you acted like...... You are not a part of this country if you act like this if you disagree with something keep it to yourself or in a respectful manner.....
Alex / June 27, 2010 at 09:58 pm
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These people in Toronto, don't really deserve anyone's attention, but that's what they got. A bunch of uneducated kids who have taken 1 or 2 political science courses and think they have the solution for everything, so they'll go snort their coke and run around and act like idiots. Every last one of them deserves to pay a hefty fine and rot in a go nowhere job the rest of their lives. No one in Canada is proud of you. If you have a problem with what I'm saying come say it to my face, I'm ashamed to be Canadian this weekend. Dumb f"cks.
Dave replying to a comment from ramez takawy / June 27, 2010 at 10:00 pm
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Then by all means ramez GTFO. If you love Egypt so much, why are you in Canada?
M.Haliburton replying to a comment from union Station / June 27, 2010 at 10:32 pm
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@Union Station. "I wanted to study the meeting's agenda.
I wanted proceeding to be broadcast...."

I too wanted to hear more details about the actual policies, and the various arguments pro and con advanced by different countries' representatives.

And rather than confrontational or even peaceful demonstrations, I would favour the approach taken by a group concerned about the dwindling supply of clean water and how it is to be cared for and sustained. Those people assembled a group of informed activists and scientists for the 2010 Fresh Water Summit, held a few weeks earlier in Bracebridge, Ontario. Attendees made presentations, discussed options, and wrote a communiqué that was delivered to the world leaders before they met in Toronto.

This communiqué is online at:
<http://2010freshwatersummit.org/communique.htm>;
Anyone who supports this initiative is also invited to sign a petition and leave a comment if they wish.

Two hours of highlights were aired on CBC Radio's IDEAS program under the title "Speaking Truth to Power" at 9:00 p.m. on Thursday and Friday June 24-5, 2010, thus providing Canadians with more insight into the issues than a street demonstration would have achieved. (www.cbc.ca/ideas/ and look in the program archives -- it is not yet clear whether this will be a free podcast -- please request it!)

Because of this Fresh Water Summit, the world's elected leaders and their advisers have been made aware of the concerns and options for protecting and sharing clean water. But if the folks concerned about water had merely done a protest march and waved signs, nobody in the Toronto Convention Centre would have heard anything about it, and the public would also have heard nothing.

People who want to influence the world policy negotiations should adopt the model of holding a summit about their topic of concern, preparing a consensus report, and delivering it to world leaders. There's no future in adopting an adversarial stance and milling around outside the police barricades. You are only marginalizing yourselves.
M.Haliburton / June 27, 2010 at 10:47 pm
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The URL was included for the "2010 Fresh Water Summit", but was stripped from my post before it appeared. So, just search for "communiqué" + Bracebridge + "2010 Fresh Water Summit", and read up on the policy proposals. I feel that this scientific and cultural summit is a good example for how to make a positive, constructive contribution. That's more effective participation than being out on the street where nobody involved in the international negotiations will even hear what you have to day, and risking being associated with these gangs of destructive thugs.

(Didn't those burning cars and smashed glass kind of look "staged" to anyone else?)
Melissa / June 27, 2010 at 11:34 pm
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I'm supprized at the media blackout surrounding the protestors at G20. This was the only information I could even find that wasn't posted by CNN. And even here, it's not a open forum, I had to log in providing the government with my information. And there's a lot of brainwashed people on here. It's a sad day in a democratic country when our voices aren't heard. And I heard yesterday that Predident Obama now has the power to turn off the internet. What is going on? On a side note, if it wasn't a police state I would of been there holding a "osap sucks" sign.
Ziggy / June 27, 2010 at 11:43 pm
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo


Why are people so upset about a riot, what about billions of dollars spent on a useless meeting of fake-world leaders when that could have gone to the setup Oil spill in the Gulf, and why is every g20 member country that same country corporations run sweatshops.....Italy,..canada...us...france....the list goes on!!!!!!!!!!!
TaxDog / June 28, 2010 at 12:38 am
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We ended up in the middle of this whole thing Saturday while trying to make our way to a concert that was ultimately canceled because of the protesters. I am appalled at the reports of police violence. The police had been friendly and helpful to all outside of the protests, and showed a great deal more restraint than, in my opinion, should have been towards the rowdies within the protest groups. When the situation got out of hand - police had no choice but to bring a potential situation under control. From what I saw there is no time to sit back and debate who might be the greatest threat, and who to ignore. Even so, the police seem to be targeted as bullies by several groups. And what happens to the perpetrators? The ones who went out of their way to demolish businesses that are the livelihood of families? How many will get caught? What will happen to the cops who exercised too much force on them and caused them discomfort? How many of these types will have their lawyers talk them free, or get a fine and move on to the next "cause" and repeat their actions? And the question that most puzzles me, in what way does destroying property forward their cause?
Steve / June 28, 2010 at 01:35 am
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There are very real and serious problems involving banks. It's tyranny. Violence is not the solution as it gives a corrupt system more of an excuse to abuse power. Inaction and complacency is worse. The overall best action is education, although there will always be ignorant people that don't know or don't want to see. Either way change is happening, but not very quickly at this stage.
Brad / June 28, 2010 at 07:50 am
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Least Toronto got some marbles. What ever it was that pi**ed them off. Maybe government officials will think twice before making another bad decision.
kristopher_w / June 28, 2010 at 09:51 am
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I love the idea that is believed by many of these anarchist insects that the police had too much of a presence and used far too much "force" and thus then rarionalize that their acts of violence was in fact "just". i'd love them to cause the same degree of rioting in beijing or bangkok and see how much then they could get away with. we are so very fortunate here compared to other cities in the world, and we must never forget it.

Marc / June 28, 2010 at 11:13 am
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It's too obvious, the police allowed that car vandalism and fire to happen, just to show the people and provide images and stories for the disgusting media world. But imagine, one moment it is protests and rioting in the downtown core, the next moment it will be Gay Pride parades, dancing and flamboyancy in a short matter of time! What a joke!
Ken / June 28, 2010 at 11:32 am
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Some of the people in black smashing windows were undercover police officers.
POed replying to a comment from Ken / June 28, 2010 at 11:45 am
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riiiiight, and the guys you pointed out as undercover cops in the videos were wearing the boots as well. wrong. they weren't.

Like what was said earlier extroadinary claims require extroadinary evidence.
If you want to go making statements like that we mgith as well say that, the people who smashed zanzibar were from religious groups, and feminist groups posing as black block who are against women being seen as object.

on the side. THOSE BASTARDS!
Ervin / June 28, 2010 at 11:53 am
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Oh wow, open season on white heterosexual males. This is racism at it's purest.Wow!!!

In times past, people were suspicious of their rulers. This was because, lacking a mass media, it was rumor which conveyed information, and rumor has no respect for authority.

In our world today, it is the media which we rely upon for our information, and even rumors have become subservient to the mass media. In those places of the world which lack the electronic infrastructure with which to convey the mass media, rumors continue, and governments seek to control the population through violent force. In nations such as ours today, the power of the media has become such that the government is able to control us so effectively that violent force is no longer required. As a result of this lack of violent oppression by government, we have been deluded into believing that we live in a democracy.

One element of the media’s focus over the last hundred years has been to discredit any theory which can be classified as a "conspiracy." As a result many people have come to view conspiracy theories with suspicion, rather than viewing government with suspicion. This is a very strange reversal of human opinion, and it is important to note that this is a very recent development in the history of mankind. Conspiracies have driven political direction since the beginning of civilization, and are the rule rather than the exception. It is a testament to the power of modern media that over the course of the last hundred years, a carefully controlled media has been able to condition the population into the belief that conspiracies are the last resort of those citizens who are either paranoid or are white heterosexual males or unable to explain their own failures by any other means.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
Ervin / June 28, 2010 at 11:54 am
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In times past, people were suspicious of their rulers. This was because, lacking a mass media, it was rumor which conveyed information, and rumor has no respect for authority.

In our world today, it is the media which we rely upon for our information, and even rumors have become subservient to the mass media. In those places of the world which lack the electronic infrastructure with which to convey the mass media, rumors continue, and governments seek to control the population through violent force. In nations such as ours today, the power of the media has become such that the government is able to control us so effectively that violent force is no longer required. As a result of this lack of violent oppression by government, we have been deluded into believing that we live in a democracy.

One element of the media’s focus over the last hundred years has been to discredit any theory which can be classified as a "conspiracy." As a result many people have come to view conspiracy theories with suspicion, rather than viewing government with suspicion. This is a very strange reversal of human opinion, and it is important to note that this is a very recent development in the history of mankind. Conspiracies have driven political direction since the beginning of civilization, and are the rule rather than the exception. It is a testament to the power of modern media that over the course of the last hundred years, a carefully controlled media has been able to condition the population into the belief that conspiracies are the last resort of those citizens who are either paranoid or are white heterosexual males or unable to explain their own failures by any other means. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
Marc replying to a comment from Ervin / June 28, 2010 at 12:18 pm
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Exactly. And that is why 24 hour media (such as CNN channel and CP24 types) are both pointless, a waste of time and total trash.
Marc / June 28, 2010 at 12:19 pm
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^and 24-hour news channels are UNNECESSARY!
Marc replying to a comment from POed / June 28, 2010 at 12:21 pm
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http://thestar.blogs.com/photoblog/

Look at those G20 photos. Very strange looking. Totally planned and orchestrated, especially those police car and shopfront photos.
robin / June 28, 2010 at 12:40 pm
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its the reds! when can we load them all back on a boat or a plane or SOMETHING and screw the whole lot of them?
SHRM / June 28, 2010 at 12:41 pm
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Wonder if these idiots have bank accounts and where they Bank, where they buy clothers & shoes?? Hope store cameras have captured the images that can help identify these THUGS and CRIMINALS and put them behind bars where they can have only their HEADS to smash against walls!
Some of these Criminals were as young as 14 or 16 years! Wonder where their parents were?? If caught, Parents must be held responsible in paying for the damage caused by their criminal kid. No mercy!
Marc / June 28, 2010 at 01:14 pm
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Also check the airport and borders. I've heard some friends say that they know people working at the airport who noticed a lot of 20s-30s kind of ages arriving in the past week or days. I hope it isn't the case.
iz / June 28, 2010 at 01:31 pm
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The Black Bloc setting police car's on fire, is too perfect to be real. Let's think about it, where were the cops then? Why didn't anything like that happen on Sunday? When the police was even more aggressive. In 2007 in Quebec the police had Agent Provocateurs in crowds riling people up, this is a known fact google it if you don't believe me. The cars being set on fire sounds exactly like the perfect way of justifying a billion dollars on security.

I was out there on Sunday, the police were very aggressive. We sang our national anthem and right when were finished the cops opened fire with rubber bullets. Everyone ran in a panic and it's a miracle no one was was trampled as lots of people fell around me. There was no need for it, people were just taking pictures and some were chanting.

This was the largest training exercise our government has ever perpetrated. What do you think they are training for?
Emet / June 28, 2010 at 01:51 pm
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In my opinion most people in the "peaceful protests" were complacent/agreeable to the violence and damage caused by a few. They could have easily denounced them and pointed them out to Police but instead they cheered them on.

So in order to show my disagreement with them, I have looked up what their causes are and I will not support them.
Eg: I will not give to panhandlers...ever..and tell them why.
I will ask politicians to get tough on the homeless issue
I will back candidates who want to lower the minimum wage
I will back candidates who want to lower welfare benefits.

You will not hear me in the streets, but you may notice that the change you are eager for comes slower now.
How do I know this, because unlike most involved in these protests I will actually take the time to vote.
marc / June 28, 2010 at 05:46 pm
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Canada got what it deserved for hosting the G20 Summits
Len / June 28, 2010 at 07:21 pm
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Take the hankies off your face, you pussies. If you really stand for something tangible, then have the guts to go face-to-face with the people you have issue with. You'll get more respect and have credibility in your cause. This weekend was time for kids to act like asses and videotape their "coolness" to their favourite social network site.
Kelly / June 28, 2010 at 07:28 pm
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The only further course of action for security measures is to enact martial law during G10 host cities.
Chris / June 28, 2010 at 11:50 pm
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Reading the Black Bloc are from Quebec this proves that Quebec troublemakers can't stay home they have to cause trouble outside Quebec. It's time that Canadians take back control and deal with those separatists the real way send the Armed Forces into Quebec and bring them back to order or kick them out of Canada which is the better option since they want out of Canada. Do we really need those troublemakers they don't see us going into their precious so called "country" and stir the pot. We should go after them the same way they came into Ontario. This is how I feel .
Ken / June 29, 2010 at 12:09 am
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These "black bloc" rioters can organize, march into the middle of a peaceful protest, pass thru crowds and start burning cars and destroying business' while the rest of the crowd just stands there? Ok, next time what is stopping those of us that feel this is wrong from showing up in a "red bloc", I mean it. These people want to see violence? This is what they understand? Ok, no problem. Lets start communicating with them. Tough guy with a chair..hahhahahaha. What a joke.
Captain / June 29, 2010 at 01:43 am
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I think these people should be just shot by the Toronto police, they do absolutly nothing for society and Capitalism is the ONLY good choice, all this socialist shit is a bunch of crap and it only benefits lazy people who dont want to get up off their ass and work for money to make their life better. These pussies should go get a damn job, and quit smashing a bunch of buisnesses who work very hard to make their money.
Captain replying to a comment from Emet / June 29, 2010 at 01:47 am
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I agree with you completly! I think these socialist fucks should get up off their lazy asses and go get a job. Capitalism!!!
gary replying to a comment from james earl cash / June 29, 2010 at 06:24 pm
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this is what we need everywhere. people fightin back
Jonny T replying to a comment from One voice / June 29, 2010 at 06:46 pm
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Do you honestly think anyone received any attention that wasn't negative? Do you compare these assholes to the people in Martin Luther King's March on Washington, to name but one example of effective demonstration? No one knows anything about any of the issues that were worth fighting for this weekend. The only message, and the thugs made sure of this, is that some punks came to break shit in Toronto. You, sir or madam, have your head up your ass.
brenna / June 29, 2010 at 06:48 pm
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I hate how they fucked up all the good stores like really what did timmys or starbucks ever do to anyone ! lmao and american app. like really. lol
Jonny T replying to a comment from iz / June 29, 2010 at 06:51 pm
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All that was proven in that entire Quebec incident is that the police planted people amongst the rioters, which is actually an effective infiltration and control strategy. The idea that the police were planted to "rile up" the other protesters was conconcted after the fact by conspiracy theorists who, in typical form, chose half-baked theory over simple common sense. How do the violent rioters in Toronto compare to the Quebec plants? They wore black boots, just like cops! Punks never wear black boots! Give me a break, moron.
mrctroronto / June 30, 2010 at 08:45 pm
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I dont think the police did a good job at all i know they had alot of people to take care of but, on sunday what happened at queen and spadina was totally un called for. i was one of the unfortunate bystanders that was taking into custody of our so called police in toronto. I am totally pissed by there actions no reason what so ever. Tactics as they so call it was bullshit!! BILL BLAIR SHOULD RESIGN!!
Witness To A Storm / June 30, 2010 at 09:17 pm
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If the police had responded equally harshly to World Cup Soccer hooligans, you wouldn't have the jokers who write for Now magazine and the whining self-righteous protesters talking about how this event has somehow heralded the end of Canada, and the loss of our freedom, and a dystopian future, etc.

This was a manufactured event. Stephen Harper was a dummy for organizing it in the middle of a massive city like Toronto. But he did. And in so doing, he brought the eye of the storm onto this city, as every single person with a bone to pick with some pseudo-political issue saw their chance to run wild in the streets and get on youtube videos.

This was not a landmark event. It was a big spectacle, no better or worse, and definitely NOT more important in the grand scheme of things than say, people spilling onto the streets to celebrate a Blue Jays World Series or a Montreal Canadiens playoff win.

Get over yourselves. You didn't change the world and you didn't bring any sort of meaningful attention to your cause. If your goal was to make it onto G20KuruptCop's youtube video at the 1:11 mark, consider the weekend a roaring success.

Otherwise go back to squeegeing windows and holding Darfur fundraising potlucks in your church basements and leave the rest of us alone until you figure out exactly what goals you are hoping to achieve.

To stand here and bemoan the downfall of democracy, or the loss of Canadian identity with the events that transpired in Toronto this weekend, is to give yourselves WAYYYY too much credit.
B. / June 30, 2010 at 11:01 pm
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Since I know that somewhere in all these comments people are saying things like "what were people expecting in the detention centre, the Hilton? They should be glad that don't live __________ where they would have been killed..." etc., I am posting this.

My friend wrote something much more eloquently than I could (parenthetical comment was my frustration with these people):

"Totally agreed on the parenthetical comment. "Oh, you're such babies for complaining that it was cold and you were wet and you didn't get any food, when there are people in worse situations in war-torn countries!" The difference being, of course, that we are not a war-torn country; we have a standard of decency that is expected to be maintained, and when it is not we should rightfully be appalled. These are rights and privileges that we should be proud to have, and their revocation should not be treated lightly. It's the same reason why there's the big hubbub about the torture inquiry in Afghanistan - we, as a people, are supposed to be better than this, and our authority figures (military, police, or otherwise) are supposed to represent and uphold these ethics, rather than degenerate into thugs in uniforms, even when faced with people who are not willing to show the same respect.

I much prefer the police action of standing the line while Black Bloc hooligans destroyed things nearby than the police action of charging and attacking peaceful protestors. I can even approve of the former as a maintenance of order, prioritising safety of persons over property, but the latter was just bullying with the backing of threats of the law."
C. / June 30, 2010 at 11:25 pm
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Whaa whaa whaa. A bunch of babies had to endure a few hours of discomfort. SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP!

I suppose everyone wants an inquiry. Well see how good it did for the AdScam situation!! Tens of millions spent. Counter lawsuits were launched. And in the end, nothing. No one held accountable.

Time to move on.
warmflash / July 2, 2010 at 10:38 am
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The Watts Riots of 1965 lasted 6 days in the Watts neighborhood of Los Angeles, California, in August 1965.

By the time the riot subsided, 34 people had been killed, 2,032 injured, and 3,952 arrested.

Now that's a real riot.
Jeremy / July 5, 2010 at 12:05 am
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The vandals and thugs are not the same people as the legitimate protesters.  If you believe otherwise, you have been fooled. This is completely one-sided.

Police stomped on our rights, by their orders, throughout the entire weekend. Due process, freedom of speech and peaceful assembly and any number of human rights were violated. All for nothing but a show of force.
peter / July 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm
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After watching this BS I'm believing that these guys were ALL paid to do this. With that band of overly heavy equipped Metro Cops they could NOT control these UNARMED kids???
Come on!! Who are they bulls..g? Now at least they will get MORE
manpower, BETTER equipment and NEWER TOYS to intimidate the general public!! Well done; Great PR stunt!! Only in a World-ASS
City like Toronto. Really pathetic!!!!
V / July 23, 2010 at 05:30 pm
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F*** ALL YOU WHITE COLLARED PUPPETS... I BET YOU SWALLOW ALL THAT SHIT YOU SEE ON THE NEWS TOO. AND I'M SURE YOU'D HAVE A GREAT EXCUSE IF YOU COULD ONLY GET YOUR FACE OUTTA THE GRINDSTONE. YOUR BLIND & THE WORST THING ABOUT IT IS YOU ARE OK WITH THAT. I BET YOU THINK "I DIDN"T SELL OUT, I BOUGHT IN". CONGRATULATION YOUR JUST ANOTHER MINDLESS PUPPET. ANOTHER PERSON WITHOUT A VOICE. AND THE GOVERNMENT BENDS YOU OVER WHEN EVER HE FEELS LIKE IT. BUT I GOT TO SAY...YOUR A WORLD CLASS B****
Kyle / July 28, 2010 at 04:22 pm
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Hope the police bust a cap up their asses, protesters like that should die... They ruin the peace in Canada...
Chameleoinze / October 10, 2010 at 07:06 am
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Shot over three days June 25,26,27 2010 in Toronto this is what we saw at the G20.

Thousands of innocent people were detained and injured by police officers. Those in power granted new laws to authorities which allowed for illegal searches and detainment of anyone who looked suspicious. This included certified media personnel, children and students and even everyday people who were on their way to work. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was abandoned and our government allowed the city of Toronto to turn into a martial law type war zone.
We have spent hundreds of hours editing this footage and posting it, in the hopes of opening peoples eyes to the seriousness of this issue.
We must never let this happen in Canada again! Stephen Harper and whoever follows after him should be made aware, that the most Canadians disagree with this type of mismanaged funds and totalitarianism tactics. We in Canada value our freedom of speech. Even though some opinions may will differ on this subject, one message should ring loud and clear....NEVER IN CANADA AGAIN MR HARPER!!!! NEVER EVER AGAIN!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoM5k0cSGE0
Gutter / December 18, 2010 at 03:06 pm
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These people are nuts and retarded. You want a real revolution then start changing your lifestyle and the way you think, because this my friend is not change this is just a blender full of ape business. Both sides are discusting here. Why can't we all just stop and think about what we're doing? Its no wonder Revolution is dead cause people want to do THIS but they don't want to change! If we can't change our lifestyles then why can't we at least change our attitudes towards life? Is it so hard to have a heart? Why this? This is exactly the same thing the police are doing! And the worst part is they WANT you to think this way because thats what their paid to do.
Terry / December 31, 2010 at 12:07 pm
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Prime Minister Harper managed to wash his hands clean of this expensive mess. He should have listened to mayor Miller at the time - the CNE would have been a better-contained, and less expensive venue. Furthermore, what was accomplished from the G20 which justified $1 billion in our money? Some economic summit......
Real_Teddybear_Man / January 6, 2011 at 04:01 pm
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I fully support the right of people to gather to legitimately and peacefully air their grievances. I marched at the protest for the Tiananmen Square massacre. This was a peaceful protest, we stood for what we believed, end of story. I also protested the protestors during the first gulf war when we had to get Saddam out of Kuwait. It was the right thing for the world governments to do under the U.N. at the time, it was also peaceful. What is happening now and over the last few years is sickening. How is ‘Joe’s Appliance Repair’ at fault?

In reading the comments and looking at the facts that have emerged over the last few months I can't help but draw a modern parallel.

The vast majority of Muslims claim their religion is a peaceful religion, yet the message is skewed to the point where terrorism is happening almost every day.

The vast majority of protestors claim their movement is a peaceful movement, yet the message is skewed to the point where terrorism happens at almost every protest.

I don't see a difference, anymore, between the two.
Ramez / February 4, 2011 at 11:48 am
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Hello,
I know this is way late, but I just realized that my name has been used in this blog. I just googled my name, and found this.
I have never been on this blog before, and the remarks that were said using my name were not my remarks. The language is not mine, the opinions aren't mine, and what was said does not represent me at all.
I appologize for what was said, and the ignorance that it portrayed.

cheers
Bob marley / March 17, 2011 at 01:00 pm
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yoyoyo, my fellow people u should be ashamed of ur selves! toronto is a beautifull city! stop this maddnes or u'll regret it! belive me it's very bad to do things like that! bye bye ...
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Soccer is the best game in life.Thanks for post

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