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Violence on Toronto streets for G20

Posted by Ryan Bolton / June 27, 2010

G20 arrest torontoYesterday's G20 riots in Toronto were chaotic, to say the least. "I can't believe I was just tear gassed," Nadim Fetaih, 22, tells me after being pepper sprayed by riot police at Queen's Park. "This is Toronto. This is Canada. This shouldn't be happening." Nadim, his sister, Sherbuk, 27, were both pepper sprayed during the standoff at College and University, where hundreds of protesters were cornered off by hundreds of riot police, some on horseback, all in full riot gear.

Some two hours earlier a peaceful G20 protest turned into a riot.

The thousand-strong protest that in Queen's Park yesterday quickly degraded when the notorious anarchists, using the black bloc technique of absolute destruction, congregated and discarded their black clothing.

It is a day that will go down in Toronto's history. A day where over 400 people were arrested in Toronto's streets.

I followed the G20 protests yesterday from the peaceful, women-led beginnings in the early afternoon onwards until 11 p.m. I walked alongside thousands of protesters from myriad groups down University Ave. I listened as they chanted in unison, "Tell me what democracy looks like. This is what democracy looks like!" And then I ran behind the reported black bloc as they terrorized Queen and Yonge streets, smashing storefront windows and CBC vans.

G20 riots torontoI watched as they lit two police cars on fire at King and Bay Street. I questioned where police were during these two hours of all-out demolition. I watched riot police squeeze us into small sections at Queen's Park and physically beat others that wouldn't comply. (This was the case for Matthew King, 23, who after talking with me, was chased by plain clothed officers and hit with batons after he wouldn't pick up his pop can.) I watched when rubber bullets (or bean bags) were shot into crowds. And I witnessed when small, individual canisters of mace were deployed, albeit not the reported tear gas. I watched as horseback police officers ran at the crowd in "stun squads." I watched when Toronto became saddened by what it was watching.

And I listened as Wayne Adam, 45, said: "It's hard to believe this is Toronto."

I recently published a feature article in Spacing magazine's spring issue about the past decade of protests in Toronto. How far Toronto has come from the notorious OCAP protests in 2000 at Queen's Park, where Molotov cocktails were hurled. To the peaceful, thousands-strong anti-prorogue protest this past January at Dundas Square. I was wrong that Toronto is finished with its violent, police-clashing protests. At least a few aren't finished, anyway.

g20 torontoBut let me clear the air. This wasn't all of Toronto. As I watched, followed, and, at times, hid from yesterday's protests, the destruction was done by approximately 60 members using black bloc tactics, donning full black get-ups, including black bandannas covering their faces. And they were violent towards anyone taking photos, especially members of the press. They would run, brandishing bricks and large sticks, smashing windows - first Starbucks and banks, and then any storefront along Yonge Street, including American Apparel, McDonald's, Urban Outfitters and Bell.

G20 riots torontoThey spray painted walls with slogans like, "Bomb the banks." They surrounded and jumped on top of police cars before lighting them on fire. (Four cop cruisers in total.) And after making it back to Queen's Park, after they trashed another unmarked police van, they shed their black clothing and disappeared into the rest of the protesters.

All this time, it should be noted, there was no police presence. None. For about two hours from around 2 p.m. until 4 p.m. police didn't stop the anarchists running wild through Toronto's streets. It wasn't until protesters got back to Queen's Park that security forces started to cut off the protesters on all sides by slowly advancing riot police. By this time, however, the destruction-wreaking individuals were in plain clothes.

g20 riots torontoAt this point, the riot police were merciless. If you came about five feet to the wall of police - all with riot helmets, batons and shields - they would yell at you to get back. If you didn't, which I witnessed on at least six occasions, they would swoop in on you, strike you with their batons, and pull you behind police lines. These take-downs are sudden and violent things to witness. You wouldn't see the individuals again.

This all occurred in the supposed protest-permitted area of Queen's Park, delegated specifically for protests, for freedom of speech. This wasn't the case. Eventually the police were able to move the protesters up to the Ontario Legislature building, dividing them into four sections. From there, they had horses run at protesters to disperse them. On the flanks, police, typically lined three deep, would stand their ground, occasionally beating their batons off their shields. This continued for about three hours until 8 p.m. when I left for another breaking protest.

g20 protest torontoI continued following the protests then on Yonge Street. Seemingly ad hoc, over 1,000 protesters made their way to the G20 fence, chanting, "Whose streets? Our streets!" and "To the fence!" Of no specific individual group, they moved quickly and peacefully until they made it to the fence at Bay St. There, police once again surrounded the protesters on King St., between Bay and York streets. Some more rubber bullets were fired, but protesters had a sit-in until the officers on Bay Street retreated, letting them through.

The protesters at this point continued to wind through the financial district until a smaller group made it to the Novotel hotel, where another confrontation took place. At this point, the protesters had lessened to around 150. The streets, as I left them, were riddled with roaming police officers in full riot gear.

It all started as a peaceful rally in Queen's Park where even children were in attendance. Thousands marched, chanting as they snaked down University to Queen St., waving their placards. And then chaos broke out when splinter groups using black bloc tactics wreaked havoc on the city. Four cop cars destroyed. A plethora of storefront windows smashed. Banks graffiti-laden with anti-capitalism slogans. Some 400 arrested. And, there's more to come today.

Writing by Ryan Bolton. Images by Louis Tam, Josh Sam and Duke 360.

Discussion

77 Comments

horizon / June 27, 2010 at 09:25 am
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"I can't believe I was just tear gassed,"

WTF were you doing there in the first place?
Daniel Plainview / June 27, 2010 at 09:32 am
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"I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people. There are times when I look at people and I see nothing worth liking. I see the worst in people. I don’t need to look past seeing them to get all I need. I’ve built my hatreds up over the years, little by little… I can’t keep doing this on my own with these ... people."
scott / June 27, 2010 at 09:33 am
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60 violent people in the midst of a crowd of thousands, and which in that larger crowd did anything to stop them? At what point does this become complicity?
john / June 27, 2010 at 09:38 am
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Please moderate your comment board so "Dick Head", who sounds more like a douche bag, may not continue to perpetuate this violence.
mr hate / June 27, 2010 at 09:38 am
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Gee, if someone had made it clear to the public in the days/weeks before G20 that the black block's tactic would include shedding their clothes after a rampage, then people would have been taking photos of them as they did so, or better yet, accosted them themselves.

The best idea would have been to have some Gentian violet on hand to spray on the Black block's f'ing faces as they tried to change so they could be easily identified by the cops. That purple shit doesn't come off for days no matter what you do.

It's incredible that nobody thought it suspicious that dozens of black clad assholes came into the crowd and suddenly started shedding their clothes.

The next G20 could easily squash these jackasses with a little foresight and planning.
DeeDee / June 27, 2010 at 09:46 am
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Hey G20 professional rioters (not legitimate, peaceful protesters): how about showing some real commitment and setting *yourselves* on fire?
Joshua Schafer / June 27, 2010 at 09:52 am
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This is obviously the black bloc's fault. If they did'nt resort to violence then the protesting would have just been chanting and marching. But nooooo some people who think "oh im sure if we break some stuff and blow up some cars the police won't start getting violent back" violence leads to violence retards, and can even fall down on the innocent.
mitjak / June 27, 2010 at 09:53 am
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Has anyone seen Last Night, an indie production about a pre-apocalyptic day, set and shot in Toronto?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156729/

I was reminded of it instantly when I saw the images.
Kevo replying to a comment from mr hate / June 27, 2010 at 09:55 am
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CTV got a bunch on camera changing and moving away and last night I saw some pictures on I think it was Torontoist from Flickr where they took pictures of the people changing at QP. Supposidly a lot are already known as some were visited by CSIS before the G20 and a bunch are on probation (see TorStar article on the two 70 year-olds who went to their first protest... the lady questions one of the kids before the protest starts.
mark / June 27, 2010 at 09:57 am
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Yes! Beat them down you swine! Nothing like a bunch of robots beating down people.
Ted / June 27, 2010 at 10:00 am
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Hold the G20 in Saudi Arabia next year. Security budget $0
Mel / June 27, 2010 at 10:00 am
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I believe in and support the Canadian freedom of right to protest. On the other hand, the violence and criminal activity that we saw yesterday from some black hooded low-life is absolutely and totally unacceptable.

When the criminal activity was happenning, I asked myself "Where are the police?". In retrospect, the police succeeded in their priority of protecting the fence and I can appreciate the massive challenge in front of police. I compliment and thank the police for protecting our rights.

Going forward, as a Canadian, I support payment to businesses who lost money yesterday as a result of the riots. Also, I request new and tougher laws against the violent activities.
Eric Cartman replying to a comment from mark / June 27, 2010 at 10:01 am
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ROBOTS? Awesome-O!
mark replying to a comment from Eric Cartman / June 27, 2010 at 10:06 am
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Yes. I believe the billion dollars was spent assembling the cops in a chinese factory.
abnormaldan / June 27, 2010 at 10:08 am
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I don't get the tone of this article.
You make it sound like the police were wrong to yell "back" at anyone who came within five feet of the line. Why wouldn't you just get back? They weren't swarmng and assulting protesters, they were defending their position!
belvedere replying to a comment from john / June 27, 2010 at 10:13 am
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i agree with dick head completely. and you john are the douchebag.
Jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 10:46 am
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GO TORONTO POLICE GO!!!! PROTECT OUR STREETS AND OUR CITY. Ryan Bolton you should have told your friend to stop littering after he threw down his pop can. I HOPE EVERY SO CALLED 'PROTESTER' GETS BEAT ON. GO POLICE!
Rachel replying to a comment from abnormaldan / June 27, 2010 at 11:00 am
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Agreed.
stephen / June 27, 2010 at 11:22 am
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To imply the police are to blame for the hooligans discredits you and your article. Should those who gave cover to the hooligans (before and after the violence, in words and deeds) be held accountable?
kayin / June 27, 2010 at 11:25 am
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hopefully the arrested face terrorism charges, and not something petty like vandalism.

when you aren't actually protesting anything and are only there to act violent for the sake of chaos, that's basically terrorism.

also, in today's world with our current tech, why couldn't they save the absurd amounts of money spent, and hold this as a video conference ? would seem like the sensible and prudent thing to do. the organizers should be held partially responsible for this circle jerk as well.
TheRealJohnson / June 27, 2010 at 11:25 am
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Even though I think we could all see this coming, it's infuriating. I definitely was bitter about the police presence leading up to this weekend, but I gotta say, I am firmly on the side of the cops today. Why they needed to hold this summit in the middle of Canada's most populous city is beyond me.
Patrick / June 27, 2010 at 11:26 am
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That was not the point where the protests turned into a riot. That happened earlier on Queen Street where the Bloc had already started busting stuff up. By the time the police moved on Queen's Park the action was already well under way.

It's understandable that someone at Queen's Park may have thought that that was the beginning of the violence, and at that location it probably was, but the looting and vandalism started much earlier (while the peaceful parade was still marching up Spadina, in fact).
Patrick / June 27, 2010 at 11:34 am
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And as for why the police abandoned the cars (I was there for that as well), they were simply outnumbered and surrounded. There are some questions as to why the cars were pulled in there in the first place but I followed the line of riot police as they made a strategic retreat to Peter Street. I honestly don't blame them for abandoning the vehicles -- people were getting pretty testy and, like mindless sheep, were getting all riled up at the behest of loud agitators. One protester I spoke to that sat in front of the line of cops said he didn't know who he was sitting with or even exactly why except that he was "against the police". I had a conversation with another self-proclaimed peaceful protester who shrugged her shoulders ("that doesn't count") when I told her about the cop cars being damaged. Beside that, I saw quite a few people taking glee (big, broad grins) at the destruction taking place. None of these people were wearing black or actively engaging in destruction but it shows the mentality in play at that moment. And at that point the cops had done nothing but change locations (I didn't see any arrests or violence, etc.)

After about 20 minutes at Peter Street the group decided to abandon that location and headed east.
jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 11:39 am
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Stupid f'ing gawkers with cameras doing sweet f all about the individuals who could have easily been swarmed and handed over to the cops. Waaaa I don't want to damage my precious SLR/camcorder/iphone. Bunch of useless as*holes you photo takers were (and will be today, no doubt). A great Flickr set is more important than your city not getting trashed.
Johnny / June 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm
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While the news continues to talk about the violance in the streets, the real violance is happening behind the fence in the meetings. Those policys are destroying our world. Property violance pales in comparison to war, enviromental destruction, gender rights and worker rights. Attacks on humanity !!! Are being derived in the "so called leaders" meeting.

For anyone who lives in Toronto, you should be sooo pissed off the Stephen Harper held this summit in Toronto. Ironiclly there are no Conservatives elected in Toronto. No constituates to listen to or report to. Mr. Harper hates this city that's why he didn't take the summit to his own riding of Calgary.

Stay safe to comrades!! Let's really talk about the issues
R. replying to a comment from jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 12:08 pm
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That's kinda silly Jimmy. Most people are not involved in violent altercations, let alone situations where they take down people who bust windows with hammers and who then disguise themselves in the crowd.
That's sorta the job of the the thousands of police being paid lots o money to be here.

Also, documentation--nothing wrong with that; sometimes even helpful. Or do you only read news with no images?
god replying to a comment from scott / June 27, 2010 at 12:08 pm
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Scott — At no point does it become complicity. Law enforcement is for the police alone, and there were hundreds of cops.
Patrick / June 27, 2010 at 12:27 pm
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Toronto/Canada tries to be a multicultural city and country, accepting refugee's and immigrants from around the world. This global citizenship also means we have to take the global issues that these ppl come from. Saying this isn't canada is ignorance on literally global scale. The protestors and especially the violent ones are standing up and smacking us in the face to issues we chose to ignore because it easier to look away and ignore then to try to change things.

Remember Nelson Mandela was labelled a terrorist for 30+ years, perception is everything in this debate
BH replying to a comment from god / June 27, 2010 at 12:30 pm
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It becomes complicity because the peaceful demonstrators keep going on about the excessive police presence and heavy-handed tactics. They knew who was in their midst and they knew what they were up to.

It's also done a great job of drowning out the message of the peaceful groups (seen any media coverage of their messages over the last 24 hours?) and justifies future events will develop in exactly the same way and the average Canadian will care even less about the message of the protests.
mr hate / June 27, 2010 at 12:32 pm
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"especially the violent ones are standing up and smacking us in the face to issues we chose to ignore "

You are so fu*king wrong.
Those as*holes were just getting their kicks trashing the place.
Nothing more, nothing less.
god / June 27, 2010 at 12:37 pm
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I agree the people in the crowd should have aprehended the black bloc individuals
Jacob / June 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm
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Honestly, the police lost control last night. I went out when the rioting was mostly finished in my area of Queen West and didn't get to come back home for five hours. Herding people back into the protest zone, and then pushing them back against another wall of police, it was ridiculous. I don't know where they expected people to go when people at the front lines were getting pepper-sprayed and people at the back were getting screamed at. Queen's Park became an absolute frenzy.

Generally speaking though I will say the police maintained a certain politeness as far as I was concerned. I found that when they were shouting at us to move, or yelling directions, if you asked a question about where you would be able to go in order to get home, they would answer you as best they could and told us to stay safe. I have no qualms against the police for confusing the hell out of everyone in stand-offs because the situation never should have happened in the first place.

One of the things that really pissed me off - WHAT THE HELL ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE DOING OUT WITH THEIR CELL PHONES AND DIGI CAMS? I didn't get home until at least 7pm and when I turned on the news there were images of about 4 dozen police in riot gear and on horseback, just sort of pushing back random morons with their iPhones? The only people left on the street when it was dark outside were photographers and random people who wanted to be included. Honestly, GO HOME. Protesting and looting and rioting was over, they were just there to take pictures of police. The police had more shit to do last night than follow around your lame asses trying to take pictures of them to upload to your facebook or flickr. No one cares that you were there, no one wants to see your blurry piece of shit cell phone pictures. Go home when everything is over, you're just making things worse and distracting away from the overall damage. Like I said, the police had better things to do last night than pushing back losers with their cell phones trying to get too close to a four-hours-earlier riot zone.
Jennifer / June 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm
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I'm not a cop...but don't forget that the cops are people, too. How would you feel if hundreds of people were coming towards you with bricks, bats, etc. and screaming for your head? What would you do?
Jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 12:47 pm
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This morning's detention center protest = moronic

Keep your eyes on the ball, people.

joe / June 27, 2010 at 12:56 pm
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the CP24 television commentators are absolutely moronic.

"we don't take the weekend off unlike other channels"
"everyone is on twitter saying CP24 is the almost like being there"

gimme a break.
jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 01:10 pm
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ha ha some black block assholes are so stupid they went to the Easter demonstration and the cops just picked them out of the crowd. Oh no, Marie Claude your boyfriend Jacques is in the slammer! Zut alors!
god / June 27, 2010 at 01:18 pm
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It should be said that the stronger the police come at the protesters, the greater the potential for violence from both sides.
Jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 01:28 pm
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While the protestors are playing GOTCHA filming the cops with their f'ing camcorders and iphones, the cops are buys watching the protestors who are doing stupid shit. And then when the cops grab these assholes, the protestors filming the cops suddenly shriek HEY HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING HE DIDN'T DO NOTHING when they were never watching that protestor's behaviour in the first place. Idiots. Go protest some real issues down by the convention center or stfu, go home and get on with your lives.

Tom / June 27, 2010 at 01:46 pm
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A few broken windows and burned out cars. What about our imperial adventure in Afghanistan? I bet there are some broken windows there too. Oh well. Torontonians have always been known for their smug self righteousness and this time is no different.
Hmm replying to a comment from god / June 27, 2010 at 02:00 pm
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Quite frankly I want them to ramp it up because the people on the front lines of the violence (black bloc and assorted yahoos) deserve what they get and the cops will win that pissing contest every time. And if you are a peaceful protestor than get your ass away from the front lines.
Hmm replying to a comment from Tom / June 27, 2010 at 02:02 pm
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Yeah, if the bloc had their way we'd be living like those folks in Afghanistan. A lawless society might be your idea of fun but it ain't mine. You really have to live in a liberal arts bubble to make such a ridiculous comparison.
Upset replying to a comment from god / June 27, 2010 at 02:30 pm
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Message to "god" - obviously you weren't there. Would like to see you take down a violent person with a b-ball bat. Maybe you should show up today and try it. After all, you're "god".
tracey / June 27, 2010 at 02:36 pm
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The property damage done is no greater than the Montreal hockey riots. The media have done a dreadful job by conflating vandalism and protest, and most of the consumers of the media reports are uncritically eating it up. The story here is the needless revocation of civil rights, the police violence inflicted upon innocent citizens, and the hundreds of bystanders hauled off to jail. Note that the police did nothing to prevent property damage, and have been provocative at every turn.
Albert replying to a comment from tracey / June 27, 2010 at 03:12 pm
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What's your definition of "provocative"?
Michael / June 27, 2010 at 04:06 pm
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Why isn't anyone talking about Harper's decision to hold the G20 downtown in the most populated city in Canada? Did he really believe that spending over $1 Billion in security would prevent the typical outcome of these venues. Harper should be held accountable.
mark replying to a comment from Michael / June 27, 2010 at 04:46 pm
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I couldnt agree more.
Harper is an out of touch fool if he thinks downtown TO was a good place.
Hank Rearden replying to a comment from mark / June 27, 2010 at 05:08 pm
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I've heard this over and over - here is a thought - how far away were the protestors kept from the MTCC? If the G20 was held at the EX - how can the TPS keep the downtown core safe , AND protect the EX/G20 site?

If you thought the black bloc was bad - just imagine if they got closer to Royal Bank Plaza /TD Centre /Union Station /etc...
Kate / June 27, 2010 at 06:33 pm
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Thanks for this insightful article. One of the best takes I read about what went down. What a sad state of affairs in our city.
Joel / June 27, 2010 at 08:13 pm
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"How far Toronto has come from the notorious OCAP protests in 2000 at Queen's Park, where tear gas was deployed."

Hmm. Not according to media reports:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog20summit/article/829238--tear-gas-fired-in-downtown-rampage
"Tear gas was used for the first time in Toronto's history, at Queen and Peter Sts., Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair said."

Wiki article you reference doesn't state that tear gas was used.
Conan / June 27, 2010 at 09:26 pm
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I noticed that most of the violent protesters being apprehended by the police were white. Does that say something about white people?
ct / June 27, 2010 at 09:39 pm
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Returning from work downtown last night on the Bloor subway line, I was seated next to some "protestors" (dressed in all black and still wearing bandanas around their necks) They were laughing and showing each other pictures of the things they smashed on their cameras. They were proud of all the trouble they caused! Scaring locals, tourists, business owners, torching police cars, forcing hospitals to go into lockdown mode and most importantly, ruining the right for others to protest peacefully is hardly something to be proud of! I was tempted to smack them all.
saltspring replying to a comment from Tom / June 27, 2010 at 09:48 pm
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That is the most ignorant comment I've read on this blog for a long time. You should go and spend some time in Afghanistan before you make such moronic comments. And not at Tim Hortons'. Better yet, show up in Peshawar, protest for women's rights, and see how many nanoseconds you last.
James / June 27, 2010 at 10:14 pm
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The municipalities that don't take action toward preventing violent anarchy will be subject to it again and again.
NYC has taken a stand!
The people of Toronto should demand the same.
What is the protest about?
Goabalism?
WTF?
dean replying to a comment from horizon / June 28, 2010 at 12:07 am
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id just like to say that the police have done a great job.my neighbour is one of those police officers fighting in the riots. I do not live in toronto, so he had to apply to work. basically volunteering to do this. 2nd to those who have complained today about innocent people being arrested, why were u even down there. u know its dangerous, why go, u paid the price. 3rd. to those guys in the black outfits breaking glass and running. the think they are tough doing that. id like to see those specific guys pick on a cop and see what happens. suddenly he wouldnt be so tuff
dean / June 28, 2010 at 12:14 am
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1st id like to say what a great job the police have done this weekend. 2nd, to those who went down to the riot zone, and were arrested while standing around. you get what u deserve. u were told to stay home. just a little common sense. riotk, police, people getting hurt, perhaps something could happen to me. and 3rd to those guys who thought they were being tough, breaking class throwing bricks, lighting cars on fire. poking fun at police. id like to see that guy with face covered breaking glass with a bottle, go up to a cop and touch him. hit him and see what happens. suddenly i dont think he would be so tough.
Intronrunner replying to a comment from god / June 28, 2010 at 08:51 am
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Yes, a better tatic would be "Please Mr./Ms. Black Blocers get into the police vehicle so we can take you to the detention centre and arrest you for the violence and destruction you have done. Thank you."
Feh / June 28, 2010 at 09:14 am
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I love how BlogTO is censoring comments from those who continue to point out the law here.

Intronrunner / June 28, 2010 at 09:32 am
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There was a teacher who called into CP24 saying that he now has a different view of the Toronto Police and will be teaching his Social Studies class (or what ever class it was) differently due to what happened down at the detention center protest. He also said “I don’t usually protest”, well if you don’t usually protest, WHY WERE YOUY THERE TO BEGIN WITH? I think that is a big question to ask a lot of the people that were downtown. (p.s. remind me to take my kid out of his class)

Maybe an even better question would be, “Why were you still there after the Black Bloc tactics started to happen?” People should have said to themselves that it might be time to go back home because I don’t want to get mixed up with these people. The fact that you were even there only helped the Black Blocers as it gave them more people to hide behind after they changed clothes. You are as much to blame as anyone.

People complain about the way the Police acted… Tell me, if I put 2 people beside each other, would you be able to tell who was going to become violent? If you were down there, Police had to treat you like they would anyone else. They were doing things the way they were to protect themselves as much as others because there is no telling who could have been be carrying what (be it a knife, gun or a bomb). If a Police Officer tells you to get back, you know what… You get back.

I also laugh at the comments from the people coming out of the Detention Center. “We were in cages, only one bench, only feed us a sandwich in so many hours, only gave us 1 water to drink, it was dirty” and etc. Did you think it was going to be 5 Star accommodations? Remember, everyone is complaining about how much the G20 cost. Think how much more it would have cost if they fixed up the Detention Center for you.

I think the funniest thing that I saw happen out of all of this was watching a lady in a dress who was clearly out downtown for dinner getting loaded into a TTC bus to be taken to the Detention Center. She and her husband must have thought it was a good idea to go downtown for dinner in the middle of all this? O.O? But that leads back to, what I said before, the Police had to treat you like everyone else, because who it to say that lady wasn’t a Black Blocer trying a new tatic of looking “innocent” and then pulling something off, like a bomb out of her nice pink leather purse.

Oh Police, you are so mean.
Intronrunner replying to a comment from Conan / June 28, 2010 at 10:52 am
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You know what, being white myself; I find that comment to be really… Ture.

The Black Bloc all looked as if they were Squeegee Kids, or kids that sit on the corner asking for spare change instead of going out and getting a job. What were they even protesting about?

It is funny that in a Multicultural city such as Toronto is, that 95% if not more of the protesters were White. Our city is a Multicultural one because people have left there own countries to come here for a better life. A lot of these protesters should realize that. There are a lot of multicultural people out there that are thankful for what they have found in Canada and Toronto.
Big T / June 28, 2010 at 11:15 am
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G20 protesters are idiots... And what kills me they think they can take a baseball bat to police cars, and set them on fire... Then they get pepper sprayed and cry about it. Stupid idiots. I saw the cops in riot gear DT, the protesters were quick to throw things from the back while the guys in front shouted. NONE of them had the guts to walk up and square off with the cops. When the cops rushed the front lines of the protesters it was like in 300, "The ones in the back shout 'FOREWARD', and the ones in the front shout 'BACK'!" Clowns.
Amber replying to a comment from Hank Rearden / June 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm
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EXCEPT...

I was working in a building one block from the traffic zone. The protesters were just trying to move past us; next to no one did anything to our property. King and Bay, where it got hairy, was the traffic zone.

If it were at the Ex, accordingly, the zones would have shifted south, and Queen would have been ignored, and most of the trouble would have been near Front. Likely, less damage overall because of the intense security measures the core took/would take. The Ex is better contained and would have been cheaper overall=more money for police and security.

Miller was right; Harper was an inconsiderate jerk who screwed us all, as people, and now refuses to clean up this mess.
Marc replying to a comment from Intronrunner / June 28, 2010 at 12:36 pm
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True, in a way, about what you said about immigrants coming here for a better life. However, remember that non-whites (ie anglo, irish) are not all immigrants. Many are already born here or 2nd/3rd generation. But about the immigrants (ie. not born here or recent), they either think to leave the protesting to the whites or "Canadians", or they simply do not care about protesting or the problems going on in Canada (no concern or no PASSION about Canadian matters/issues) because Canada is still ten times better than their native countries. Also, a number of the immigrants you are talking about (recent or not born here) simply do not know what democracy is or do not even think about protesting because that was totally not done or thought of in their native countries. There is also the factor that immigrant or not, too many people are just so busy, lazy or just slaves to their technology like crackberries, videogames, awful sheeple tv shows, etc. That is one war going on, if you think about it - distractions for society.
Marc / June 28, 2010 at 01:16 pm
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^ also the factor that the immigrants here today, simply DO NOT KNOW how Canada was 15/20+ years ago and how better it was, which is the reason why many Canadian feel angry today.
Marc / June 28, 2010 at 01:17 pm
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^ that is why those immigrants do not care or protest, simply because they DO NOT KNOW how Canada was. But if it's an issue having to do with their native country, then they will be so pumped up and angry and will use our streets to protest. Just like the Tamils last year in Toronto.
Matty Ignorant / June 28, 2010 at 08:21 pm
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Tell me it's not a paradox.

The black clad black sheep march on our street and destroy our city fer equality in the workplace, the classes. Yet they destroy businesses and livelyhoods knowing our government will not give a penny to the owners.

It all goes through insurance. And insurance is the most shady part of our economy.

It amazes me how people can ruin an idea that stemmed from their last braincell. An idea destroyed altogether by sabotaging what they hate most about the economy, while hiding behind the people they claim to be fighting fer.

If other protestors witnessed this, and let alone did nothing, they should have walked away. It's not worth it. It's not worth putting yourself in line with them, even if you believe you have a legitimate arguement. I've heard countless people throw around the word free speech, but what about free-will?

This weekend the world saw a bunch of misguided children, left into the hands of older non-responsible role models. It was like some kind of new fad, the punx lost warped tour so this is their new venue.
REW TILSON / June 29, 2010 at 01:46 am
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If you sheeple in Toronto don't get it yet. Think of this. In 1999 at the WTO in Seatlle, 30-50 BBloca rioted for 4 hours without intervention by the police, then the next 48 hours every civil right was smashed. Sound familiar? except this time they ran over a 5 mile course, David Miller could have tackled one on yonge street, then they attacked the cop shop. What a joke. Are you all that stupid? Go on youtube and check out police state 2 and see who they work for and what role they play.Look at the montreal riots, over hockey. cop cars overturned burnt , store fronts smashed and a group of 60-100 riot police cleared, 500 hundred trouble makers in a drunken ramped up crowd of 50,000 april 24, 2008 in 30 minutes. You are telling me that 20,000 cops couldn't stop 100 bubble gum punks from smashing some windows. BTW check out the rodstock riots and the the "real" black bloc ANTIFA, those guys don't screw around and don't break windows they break faces, bones, nazis. Just saying. The sheeple mentality in TO, FUNKIN BLOWS. Have fun. Sleeping you mistake by the lake.
Alain Roberge / June 29, 2010 at 02:04 am
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It doesn't take a Nobel prize to realized that these brainless anarchists are always the same loosers, whether in the streets of Vancouver or Montreal after a hockey game or taking advantage of a massive police force to perpetrate their vandalism, as the media gives more importance to riots than the actual events.

When journalists interview them to know what they are protesting for, they don't have a clue what they are talking about, screaming phrases like "we are denunciating worldwide economy" and "f_ck capitalism", while wearing branded hoods and t-shirts...

Punks who are crying that they have been brutalized are the first to provoke the police. Anyone knows that if you want to get into troubles, this is the place to be, but don't complained afterward. When you see the photos of protesters with their fingers in the face of police officers, I have to admit that they are very tolerant.

I think that the population should take justice in their hand, as these young men between 15 and 30 years old are the ones who are destroying bus shelters, trains, trams, buses and draw graffiti all over. We are the ones working our asses off, day in, day out, paying taxes for these rats who are creating a very bad climate and environment for the rest of us, like the punks that they are.

Do we really have to tolerate them? How could we eradicate these nuisance once and for all?
Intronrunner / June 29, 2010 at 12:04 pm
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It is a no win situation for the Police. They are accused of not stopping the window smashing and fire bombing of the Police cars, but if they did they would then be accused of Police brutality.

Every person that was in that group would have had to of been stopped, not just 100 bubble gum punks. Everyone one of those peaceful protesters that were walking with in that group that contained the Black Blocers, every News Report and Curious Joe/Joan who was holding a camera phone, would have also had to of been stopped. Who is to say that people not wearing Black were going to stay peaceful if the Police went in to stop what was going on.

Think about it. It isn't safe for themselves to just to go rushing in and probably wouldn't have been safe for the peaceful protesters in the group either if they had. You think the Black Blocers would just have laid down on the ground? They could have caused harm to the peaceful protesters by trying to break free from the Police.

There is many factors that Police have to look at. Anyone of those people could have been carrying a gun and we all know what happens then, innocent people get killed because someone pulls a gun out and starts shooting in the middle of a crowd. Ask Jane Creba's family whose daughter died on the street for that exact same reason not to far away from where all this was happening.

People complain so much about how Police handled things; well I think they handled themselves quite well. If you're told to move back then you move back, if you don't then you are starting a confrontation and the Police were stopping it before it became worse or before the person pulled out a gun.

You can say there was no gun, but would you know that for sure if you were there? It was the Black Blocers that forced the Polices hands to become fists. The Black Blocers raised the level from Peaceful to Violent and Destructive, the Police only followed suit to match them and the peaceful protester and passerby got caught in the middle.
Stac / June 30, 2010 at 04:46 pm
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I still haven't been able to find out WHY people are protesting. The only reason I've found is the exorbitant cost. Everyone is covering WHAT the riots were, not WHY they were happening. So clearly the rioters just wanted to destroy, since they don't seem to be very public about their reasons, just intent on raising hell.

Can someone please explain the reasons behind all this? I've been googling, and still haven't found anything about why people are upset, aside from the $1.2B spent on security, which is ridiculous, but no reason to be stupid like this.
Greta replying to a comment from horizon / June 30, 2010 at 06:10 pm
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Doing what you're obviously too much of a wimp to do. Hey, buddy, way to bend over and take it when your rights as a human being are stripped. I love how many people I've heard tell me what happened at the G20 when they weren't even there.
Greta / June 30, 2010 at 06:14 pm
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the above was a reply to Horizon's first comment, which you can't tell because I clearly don't know how to use this thing.
Matty Ignorant replying to a comment from Greta / July 1, 2010 at 08:14 pm
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lolwut

If you don't want to get a job, then go live in a tree.

Yeah there was some legitimacy going on but only within the the thoughts of some. A majority of those at the protest were under the age of what looked to be twenty. And those protesters aren't even there to protest. They are just there to destroy(or watch destruction) because they do not want to live in a corporate world.

If you are refferring to the fact that detainees were "mistrested", or that protested experienced a form of mild privacy infringement, take a little look at the situation.

Behind those gates were some of the most powerful people in the world(weather you agree with their use of power, that is what they are). Without security their lives were at risk. Now I don't agree with the money spent because clearly there could have been other ways, but it was what it was. Are the police and security supposed to say "hey, yeah, you teenagers, go right in and lecture men and women your senior with life lessons." ?

The bottom line is these protests create an obscure view of the protesters fer a valid reason. We all know g20 brings rioting, and we know some will try to protest peacefully. But why bother? Your word is not getting across to anyone amidst destruction. Hold a rally elsewhere. Show the people that you as well have common courtesy. That if the leaders can do it, so can the people.

There were only ever a few wise words spoken of Anarchism, but alike every other faction of the political spectrum, it has been misconstrued to this.

So before anyone claims innocence, or privacy infringement, explore other options.

If one can learn to methodize their situation and the situation's of those they care about , one can learn to live outside of the world that they have grown to hate. If one can learn to manipulate the situation within the confines of politics and law, one can properly learn to live outside of the institute, and the dogmas they feel have been brought upon them. Though if they choose not to observe, maintain and rise above, fer the simple fact that they don't believe they need to observe and maintain, the people can begin to question their passion. And the people will begin to realize that the protestor's voice is no longer legitimate. That the voice only carries a brain to see what is wrong, but not how to fix things.
AV / July 2, 2010 at 11:55 pm
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http://lecanadian.com/2010/07/02/black-bloc-vandals-in-toronto-were-undercover-police-says-canadian-research-centre/
Damien / July 3, 2010 at 03:43 pm
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There was no violence on the part of police in Toronto. Help spread the world about how wonderful Toronto is and bring the kids!

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N/A / July 19, 2010 at 09:31 am
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im guessing these idiots succeeded when they cause all this damage, turn the peaceful protest into a riot, give the world a totally wrong image of Canada, and get to go and claim police brutality? if the police say back up, back up! not very complicated. and what will they do if you ignore them? they arent gonna say please, they will make you move.
Joshua / January 12, 2011 at 12:37 pm
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I was the person in the white shirt
Jesus replying to a comment from god / March 7, 2011 at 05:18 pm
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Love everyone. Even Goverments are people. I loooooveeeee you <3

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