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G20 protest messages overshadowed by violence and arrests

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / June 27, 2010

g20 protestsIt's been a truly disturbing G20 weekend here in Toronto. Over 550 people have been arrested and detained, many having been violently snatched by heavily armed police, thrown into unmarked vans, strip-searched, and held in metal cages without water (or criminal charges) for several hours.

Journalists and media accredited personnel from CTV, National Post, and Guardian UK have been arrested without just cause.

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Vandals have burned police cars and caused damage all over the downtown core. Excessive use of police powers are being called into question.

In the past 24h, these are the stories being pursued and reported by the media, and little has been discussed about the many peaceful protests and causes represented on the streets.

Let's not forget that these are the people that deserved to have had their voices heard (regardless of how varied or absurd their messages were).

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Discussion

50 Comments

RG / June 27, 2010 at 01:42 pm
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The Constitution was suspended for the weekend. Reason enough to riot.
BH replying to a comment from RG / June 27, 2010 at 01:50 pm
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What an idiotic comment. "Hey, let's create anarchy to protest the rule of law being temporarily suspended. Maybe if we destroy enough the rule of law will magically become stronger." Did you learn political discourse in the schoolyard?

The title of this article, however, is spot on. The protest message is being drowned out by a group that has no message.
Hunter / June 27, 2010 at 02:01 pm
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Alot of empty noise. Blogto should start a donation drive to compensate all the businesses that were trashed from the criminals. Good idea huh.
Kevo replying to a comment from BH / June 27, 2010 at 02:02 pm
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He does have a point, BH. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms/Constitution overrules all other Federal, Provincial, and Municipal laws. One cannot be arrested for not showing ID while walking along the sidewalk.

There are always stories where the government and police say that rights will be "temporarily" suspended for the good of all, when all it does is allow warrant-less phone taps (ex: Patriot Act). If you prefer a country where you must give ID while walking down the street or allows warrant-less searches of your house, bag, or self for "the greater good", please move to North Korea.

I will agree though, that the media has really botched the coverage of the weekend, calling the Black Bloc protesters when really they just came to destroy things.
Sigmund / June 27, 2010 at 02:11 pm
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Blac Bloc were hired by the cops or are cops to create more fear to society and to drown the true protesting messages, also to justify the 1billion spent. Propaganda!! Don't believe the hype and keep peace going!
john replying to a comment from Sigmund / June 27, 2010 at 02:16 pm
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Hey Sigmund -- that's pretty interesting claim. Got a single shred of evidence back it up?
PPP replying to a comment from john / June 27, 2010 at 02:22 pm
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No evidence yet (it's only been a day) but check this out:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&;code=BUR20100627&articleId=19928
anitabot / June 27, 2010 at 02:27 pm
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Very true, the message is lost. Outside of a very few protest groups that I know about - I have no clue what people are protesting about. I can see that they range from globalization issues, to protesting the G20, to the actual arrival in G20 in Toronto.

I watched CP24 last night for way too long, hanging on the live feed of chaos, but after all that I haven't learned anything about the events at the meetings themselves, and most certainly not the message of the protesters.

I hope in the coming days of coverage more outlets will try to cover those sides of the event, and lessen with the 'riot porn'. :/

jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 02:29 pm
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Sigmund / JUNE 27, 2010 AT 2:11 PM

Blac Bloc were hired by the cops or are cops to create more fear to society and to drown the true protesting messages, also to justify the 1billion spent. Propaganda!! Don't believe the hype and keep peace going!
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Yeah and those assholes they just arrested minutes ago with molotov cocktails in their car are plants too.

Get your head out of your ass.
Sig / June 27, 2010 at 02:31 pm
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Do you have any evidence that goes against it?
Questions -
Where were the cops when the Blac Bloc were taking over the streets?
Why were they too late to stop them?
Why did the cops leave those cars burning for so long?
Blac Bloc doesn't want their pictures taken? They can't be traced.
Be smart, be suspicious. Know the message.
jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 02:38 pm
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Sig / JUNE 27, 2010 AT 2:31 PM

Do you have any evidence that goes against it?
Questions -
Where were the cops when the Blac Bloc were taking over the streets?
Why were they too late to stop them?
Why did the cops leave those cars burning for so long?
Blac Bloc doesn't want their pictures taken? They can't be traced.
Be smart, be suspicious. Know the message.
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1 why don't you go to cop college, learn about crowd control strategies, risk evaluation etc
2 they ran, they changed their clothes. cops' reaction was unacceptably slow.
3 hard to get a f'ing firetruck safely through an agitated crowd
4 there's plenty of footage of black block assholes changing their clothes. give it some time to come out
blah / June 27, 2010 at 02:39 pm
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@PPP, that "evidence" is so weak that I am flattering it by calling it as much.

Not saying police didn't provoke people but that proof is laughable.
Karl / June 27, 2010 at 02:43 pm
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To protest is a given right to destroy personal property is vandalism, to injure others is wrong. Protest and be heard but do so as a human not an idiot. And yes sometimes in these situations rights might need to be suspended to stop madness. Sometimes there is no other way to sort out who is wrong and who is right. Want your rights then stop the idiots causing the problems with the protest. You can be heard without it and you will get more results. Now look at how many things have to be paid for from taxes or whichever it is comes from your citizens
Jimmy / June 27, 2010 at 02:48 pm
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PPP's link is laughable.

Yeah, the Black block assholes wouldn't think to wear sensible city-trashing footwear, so they must be cops. Righhhhhhhhht.

Anybody can buy f*cking work boots anywhere anytime.

Marc Comeau replying to a comment from PPP / June 27, 2010 at 03:16 pm
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It's worth noting that the protesters shoes are cut differently than police uniform boots (below vs above the ankle, for example).

Of course, I'm sure that's all part of the conspiracy. They learned from Quebec and are now buying their plants entirely different footwear than they wear on duty.

Certainly black, chunky soled shoes have never been en vogue. Especially with groups of people intending to do potentially damaging things while wearing all black.

The lack of critical thinking in that article is staggering.
Lisa / June 27, 2010 at 03:24 pm
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Berlin Wall =/= G20 security fence.
Feldwebel Wolfenstool / June 27, 2010 at 03:38 pm
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Pigs dream of a free-for-all scuffle, just to bust a few heads.
One of the 2 piglets that hauled me to cool off in jail, over MADMIKE Bryant, said to me..."I'd LOVE for you to take a swing at me." Imagine, this young, 20-something punk/cop/arschloche threatening an old guy pushing 60. Man oh man, they sure don't like it when I cock of to the pigs in German.
PPP replying to a comment from blah / June 27, 2010 at 03:42 pm
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I didn't say it was "evidence" - can't you read?
CRV / June 27, 2010 at 04:05 pm
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What I find most interesting about this whole thing is that a metal security fence (held up by concrete) surrounded the perimeter of the summit area. The police could have stood in front of the fence to make sure no one tried to charge it and forced people to stay on the other side of the street. That's really all the security that was needed to protect the summiteers.

Instead, there were hundreds of police - in full Darth Vader get-up ready to pounce - blocking access to nearly all major intersections in the downtown core. It almost seems the intent was to prevent images in the news of protesters *at* the summit site condemning the G20 and their policies. By keeping the protesters far away and enticing them to edge closer to the site by means of their provocative display (were the full body-armour and truncheons really necessary in a non-war zone?) the got exactly the reaction they were looking for.

I'm not really surprised by many of the comments here, denouncing the activists and lauding the police. All you have to do is scare people enough and they will accept any restriction on their civil liberties without question. It seems the whole thing was almost designed to play out exactly as it did: the protesters are portrayed as the bad guys, while the harmful (even lethal) policies of the G20 elite get little critical attention.

No doubt someone is going to reply that I must be some kind of conspiracy nut but this is my take on it. And I said it "seems" this way, I have no evidence, but with $1.2 billion spent on security I'm sure the authorities know exactly what they are doing.
lat / June 27, 2010 at 04:39 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mL46t8H4oU
Locustgirl / June 27, 2010 at 04:50 pm
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The photo of the last guy, is the same guy that was on my subway SCREAMING like a crazy man and making many people really uncomfortable.
bob replying to a comment from PPP / June 27, 2010 at 06:03 pm
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that little yellow symbol that you are basing your conspiracy theory on looked very familiar.
So I pulled out my engineering boots, and there it was, checked out my buddies Harley Davidson boots and there it was. managed to find a discount shoe store open on Yonge street and there it was on several different brands and styles. Some were the stomping boots favoured by the protesters, none were police boots. It tells you that the boot is oil resistant.
This is so right wing, no fact checking, no facts all anecdotal
Picard102 / June 27, 2010 at 06:09 pm
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These punks got a lot less then what they deserved. Poor souls detained for acting like douchebags.
Ranga / June 27, 2010 at 06:48 pm
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I don't think the people using Black Bloc tactics were officers or paid by them (Black Bloc is not an organization mind you), however it is obvious to me that to take the attention away from the police and governments faults and to make the citizens feel their tax dollars were not wasted, that they did in fact let a lot of preventable destruction take place. Police with numerous non-lethal weaponry could have easily taken down the very few people causing damage when it began.

I don't necessarily support the police on this one, but their job was to protect the people and businesses which they had more than enough resources for, and the blew it.
J / June 27, 2010 at 07:01 pm
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The video by lat is a good one - I've hadn't seen coverage of the peaceful protests until now. As for the cops vs. the protestors debate - there seems to be a need to classify one as a group of heroins and the other as villains. The truth is there's a large group of douchebags in both camps - there's thousands of both, and many of these people are just out to have fun, break things, or beat people up. And before you chastise me for saying some cops are douchebags - let me qualify myself, by saying my brother is a cop - and I too often hear stories of 'the boys having fun'.

Above all, there should be some significant concern when the government can completely remove your rights unannounced. I was id and questioned walking down church street - completely removed from any protest zone, completely removed from the G20 site. If I had not complied, I may have been arrested - there is something significantly wrong with that picture. We should still have the right to move freely within our city, without being questions - if we are no where near the G20 site.

jamesmallon / June 27, 2010 at 08:50 pm
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My child will never be allowed to become a cop, as their purpose is to intimidate and bully. Sure, wife-beaters and vandals deserve it, but as we speak a peaceful crowd has been corralled for three hours on Queen West and hundreds of them thrown in wagons without provocation or explanation. Too many cops are the type of thug who was a bully in grade school and interpret enforcement of 'the law' as attacking anything that offends them. As for justice against cops who overstepped... this is the town of Brummel's union, and a town where they couldn't get drug dealing cops off the force. Also the most expensive part of the city's budget.

"I’ve heard some people say that if you made the decision to join a demonstration, or simply go close to one, you have no one but yourself to blame for being attacked by police." Really, so the Selma marchers deserved that? That they couldn't grab a bunch of vandals, even from out of a crowd of mostly peaceful, shows gross negligence. That their response to criticism of their incompetence is to do this to peaceful demonstrators is a crime, that will never be punished.

People should not think modern history is so different from all the other centuries of human history: police and armies are for enforcing the status quo.
mojavecactoid / June 27, 2010 at 08:57 pm
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I wonder how many of these 20 year old protesters will find themselves behind financial industry desks in ten years when they finally grow up and realize that the world isn't full of Pollyanna and Peter Pan and Willy Wonka and SpongeBob and whatever other silly innocent fantasy that reality blows to hell with IEDs and Afghan druglord boyf&cking and suicidal religius extremists and sociopaths and psychopaths and all the rest of humanity that makes the world what it is.
blah replying to a comment from PPP / June 27, 2010 at 09:02 pm
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That is a hilarious link.
Their "evidence" comes in the form of "look at that combat boot! It's obviously part of a uniform! And look at that physique, obviously a trained soldier". WHUT? The pic of the person they claim to have a physique that shows it's not an anarchist looks average and perhaps even female.

And if they were hiring these people destructing property, why would they choose such young'ins? Most of them were in the late teens or early 20s. Hell, if I were to hire "actors" for my cause, I'd go for older people who were more trustworthy to not tell other people about my schemes.

It's kind of sad that you believe it on such weak claims :(
mojavecactoid replying to a comment from jamesmallon / June 27, 2010 at 09:15 pm
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Like how stupid are you?? If it weren't for the rule of law and the presence of police, that panhandler on the corner of Dundas and Sherbourne would eat your brains for breakfast. It's only for the the presence of duly construed laws in as free a democracy as exists in this world that you are able to voice your criticism and enjoy your liberties without fear of reprisal. For an exercise in lawless society within an allegedly lawful society, witness the recent events in Dudus Coke's Jamaican shantytown. Sorry, Virginia, guns and money rule when the law can't apply through the viable presence of police.

And, btw, armies have more often than not created revolution, change, and opportunity, albeit with a mighty upfront human investment. Get your history straight, james. Fail.
Mike / June 27, 2010 at 09:16 pm
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It's disgusting to see that one picture of people using their children as props.

When your children are old enough to make the choice as to whether or not they want to protest, then by all means, let them go. Until then, leave them at home.
Martin replying to a comment from lat / June 27, 2010 at 09:24 pm
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Thanks for the link to that video lat! I agree that we need more coverage of the issues and more detailed information from those who disagree with the decisions of the G20 governments.
jamesmallon replying to a comment from mojavecactoid / June 27, 2010 at 10:04 pm
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Keep drinking the cool-aid buddy.
people / June 27, 2010 at 11:37 pm
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Give peace a chance? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaYbq484abs
RG / June 28, 2010 at 12:41 am
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Canadians have embraced fascism. 'Nuff said.
Jay replying to a comment from Mike / June 28, 2010 at 01:10 am
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I agree with you Mike, bringing your children to any protest is incredibly irresponsible. Don't bring your kids to any of this.
Marc / June 28, 2010 at 01:15 am
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It is important to consider that those more aggressive or violent protesters were not necessarily from Toronto or even from the province or even from the country! Many of them who protested and even did damage, were from the USA and perhaps other places. Therefore, that's the reason why they did not reflect our ways and approach here.
ds / June 28, 2010 at 02:30 am
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Way to justify the security costs - best way to protest this would have been to ignore it. A lot of the store fronts that were trashed were independent business owners. Way to go.
Wizardsixr / June 28, 2010 at 04:59 am
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Protest not unrest.
Marc replying to a comment from Jay / June 28, 2010 at 10:54 am
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"...bringing your children to any protest is incredibly irresponsible. Don't bring your kids to any of this."

Tell that to those Tamils during their protests last year!
Mark Shetfield replying to a comment from Hunter / June 28, 2010 at 12:01 pm
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You will never wake up will you.. "back to business"
Joe Knipfel / June 28, 2010 at 02:38 pm
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G20 takes the cake; it’s not bad enough that Stephen Harper acts like Canadian tax payers are made of money as he squander cash around the world and Canadians accumulate billions of dollars in debt and being taxed to death; but this G20 was disgusting. Protest groups were upbeat and peaceful consisting of; Justice for out community, Indigenous Rights marchers, Anti-Capitalist Convergence group and many other peaceful groups. Many came to protests about Canadian hunger and child poverty or just to get recognition for a cause being held deer. As G20 governing authority with extreme force arrests about 900 innocent protesting Canadian citizens conveying their freedom of expression for a better Canada and a better environmental world Canada becomes a stage. I watched media televise as arrests started with a death person that could not hear what he was being told by police, then media, individuals walking home after watching a soccer game in a local pub, tourists, graduates from the University of Western Ontario studying political science and peace studies, etc. Many were being held for 4 hours in a down pour of rain, kicked, beaten, disallowed bathroom privileges or food and possible medications. I watched video clips on news channels of the violence; many were showing the camera persons their bruises, cameras showed one media member being punched in the face by police for no apparent reason; another media member that was arrested talked about the person next to him showing signs of concussion and not receiving medical help. People from Canada, elsewhere and media trying to inform Canadians of what’s happening in Canada were being treated like animals by Canadian authorities in the eyes of the world. In embarrassment I felt like it was watching something out of Red Square. Who’s the thugs here the Canadian Government and Police or the Black Bloc protesters? Human rights have been smeared with disregard to the generations that have worked so hard to build it and for what Canada now use to stand for. If Blair referred to the Black Bloc protesters as "violent anarchists" what does that make Canadian Government and the Policing authority?

sharon / June 29, 2010 at 02:44 pm
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The police were awesome Most of the people protesting should get a job... If you were walking with the anarchists you deserved to get arrested you were making it easy for them to destroy Toronto.. don't look for sympathy from me ...spend a night locked up and maybe you will appreciate how lucky you are in Canada and how protected you are .... but you still complain SHAME ON YOU GET A JOB
people replying to a comment from sharon / June 30, 2010 at 12:33 am
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Sharon, that is terrible assumption. You nor I have any proof that all protesters were jobless hippies out to cause trouble. In Canada, we have a right to peaceful protest no matter who you are. Note the word "peaceful". Simply walking near an "anarchist" does not mean you are one. Shame on you for saying the police were "awesome". Do not look for sympathy from me when you trip on your own ignorant conclusions...I hope you land on your face.
Viktor Z / June 30, 2010 at 01:21 pm
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The arrests ware awesome. Search withut a worant plus they take your clothes away and put you in cages. If it wasnt for free cheese sandwich, and a concrete to sleep on, i's say it was an awesome experience. Great job Toronto police. Keep it up, maybe next time they should just shoot people on spot.
Joe Knipfel / July 2, 2010 at 01:47 pm
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It has been brought to my attention that complaints to the responsible arms-length agencies (details provided below) can be made. Complaints directly to the Harper government can be made to the Minister of Public Safety, Vic Toews, at (613) 992-3128. You can also send an e-mail to toews.v@parl.gc.ca . Peaceful and direct, just like Canadians.

Juan Corsair / July 24, 2010 at 01:24 pm
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Looking at these photos, it comes as no surprise that nobody takes these kooks seriously. I mean, really... Does anyone in Canada really care what the Communist Party of Iran or anti-Conservative homosexuals think? As for "burning police cars for Democracy"... The irony of that statement is utterly apalling. Those police cars were paid for by public tax dollars that largely believes that criminals that partake in civil disobedience, destruction of private property and wanton mayhem should be locked in a cell for a helluva lot longer than 48 hours. Somehow I doubt these violent degenerates would look on adoringly if a group of thugs came down their street, smashed the windows on their houses and set their cars on fire in the name of 'democracy'. I also doubt that very few of them would actually be able to afford such luxuries for good reason.
Charles Millar / September 8, 2010 at 07:08 pm
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Re the protester stating I will never allow my kid to become a cop. Hey bozo the right to choose a profession is not and b=never will be your right to chose. What are you going to do if he or she decides to become a cop kick them out? I am a retired cop 30 years served. I became a police officer because I was impressed by the way I was treated in some situations I was involved in as a kid. I was never a bully in fact I was picked on in school because I was different, I was in high school in the 60s my dad was career military and he ruled the family with an iron fist. Yes as a kid it bothered me, I resented it, but as I got older I came to respect his rules is attitudes and I for one am glad he was who he was. Perhaps if you grow up you might learn to respect our country our democracy that if it didn't exist you would never have been able to act the way youy are now. You think you live in a police state, you have no idea of what a police state even is never mind how it is to live in one. My dad was German escaped Hitlers clutches lived to serve and fight against him. He could not see his relatives for 40 years because most of them lived in East Germany. Grow up moron you are just a sheep yourself led astray by leftist morons bent on destroying our wonderful country
Daksnaday / January 21, 2011 at 08:18 am
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Hola a todos, hace tiempo visito el foro pero nunca habia participado.

Basicamente solo queria presentarme!


Nos vemos
musicfanatic8403 / February 10, 2011 at 08:50 pm
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I can fully impart to the article on AOL's money management website talking about how people are still taking way too much cash
I've been tiresome to be payment and cut clandestinely on spending.
NouchhahCooda / December 3, 2011 at 07:34 am
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bien que l'on observe une baisse de l' immobilier le site de petites annonces immobilieres qui s'en sort et qui grimpent tirent sa chandelle du jeu

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