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Attention Parkdale Shoppers

Posted by Sarah Kelsey / May 7, 2009

20090505-Shoppers-web.jpgI can't speak for all Parkdalians, but I've been wondering about the old Thrift Town lot for a while (located at 1473 Queen St. W., near Jameson). It's taken forever for the empty space to be transformed into something substantial. And now, with the appearance of cheery face photos in the store's windows, it's become pretty evident what the space is going to be: a brand new Shoppers Drug Mart.

Big, established drug stores aren't exactly easy to find on this strip of the city, so no surprise SDM is planting a stake. But the anti-gentrification crowd isn't pleased. Several people I spoke with fear rents will go up. Or local businesses will be forced out. Or the chain store will permanently alter the rough beauty of the 'hood.

Sure, all those things can (and probably will) happen. But does change always have to be such a bad thing?

When this argument comes up I always think about Roncesvalles. That strip has been gentrifying for years and while many of the older places have changed hands or closed up, many have not. And many of the new stores that have opened in the area are convenient, small, independent businesses themselves. No, Roncey is an eclectic mix of young families and traditional Polish cliques.

The same thing could happen to Parkdale. And I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. There goes the neighbourhood, or great for the neighbourhood? We'll just have to wait and see.

Discussion

33 Comments

SCREWFACE / May 7, 2009 at 09:51 am
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BRING BACK MR. GROCER

take that hipsters
Sean Galbraith / May 7, 2009 at 10:02 am
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We hate it when our friends become successful.
homeslice robinson / May 7, 2009 at 10:14 am
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angry @ shoppers??
there's a pizza pizza, blockbuster, and a dollarama like a block east of there... out of those 4 companies i'd much rather have a shoppers, above the others.
Sheryl / May 7, 2009 at 10:17 am
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Not sure why the neighbourhood would be upset - the Guardian drugstore at Queen & MacDonnell was a Shopper's Drug Mart for years until they lost the franchise and became a Guardian about 10 years ago.

One could argue that with the Guardian and a Rexall on the next block the area doesn't need another chain drugstore, but given that Shoppers was here years ago, I don't see how they could be concieved as ruining anything.
Hamish Grant / May 7, 2009 at 11:14 am
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AWESOME! It's about time.
SCREWFACE replying to a comment from Sheryl / May 7, 2009 at 11:34 am
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NO! Why did you mention that?

That was our way of weeding out the dirty hipsters from the Parkdale OG's. Hmnnn I wonder what that says about the author then...

LOL a "post" about a franchise coming into a neighbourhood to ruin it, when it really is making a comeback.
The issue is not in there being a Shoppers Drug Mart, but the issue is in 3 Drug stores in 3 blocks on Drug Queen Street.
Mark Dowling / May 7, 2009 at 11:39 am
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If you want to be angry at Shoppers, be angry that they built a 1-floor store on Danforth between Broadview and Chester when the subway access should have mandated a multi-level structure. Shoppers, LCBO, Beer Store - they all think they are in a small town rather than a dense urban area.
Nick W / May 7, 2009 at 01:06 pm
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almost forgot... every window is a shop.
Zuzu / May 7, 2009 at 01:22 pm
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Shoppers Drugmart is sooo ugly. The Guardian Drugs at Queen & Landsdown is kind of ugly too but not as insanely bright white. And Guardian has more weird gifts, junk, and the cosmetics that time forgot.
handfed / May 7, 2009 at 01:54 pm
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I'm not here to defend hipsterism, but I will say that Shoppers is a poor excuse for a pharmacy. Compare them to well-known chains like Walgreens and Rite-Aid in the USA, and you will see that their selection and prices are far inferior. In fact, if you compare (as I have) prices for household goods at the 7-11 vs. Shoppers on Bloor/Spadina, you find that 7-11 beats them by 5-20%. Conclusion -- Shoppers is a SCAM.
Zed / May 7, 2009 at 01:56 pm
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Shoppers isn't all that bad...we all need toiletries sometimes
Hamish Grant / May 7, 2009 at 02:07 pm
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Why compare SDM to a US company? Is there a Rite-Aid going in down the street in Parkdale to compare it to? No. I'd say in terms of convenience and walking distance, SDM wins hands down.

Add to this the Shoppers Optimum program, which through strategic buying and maximizing redemptions has netted me a Nintendo Wii and two DS's for my kids in the past two years alone.

The prices are comparable to local grocery chains - in fact on some common items they beat them hands down (cases of soft drinks being a good example). In terms of Pharmacy, I've never had an issue with them, they always have efficient, respectful staff on hand who know what they're doing. I really hope this one gets a Post Office in it so I don't have to schlep up to Solarski's. This one will be five minutes from my house.

Handfed, why would you go to 7-11 OR SDM when there's a Metro right across the street that will beat both of them.
R. S. / May 7, 2009 at 03:09 pm
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The Guardian already has a Canada Post office so it seems unlikely that the SDM would as well....
R. S. / May 7, 2009 at 03:10 pm
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The Guardian already has a Canada Post office so it seems unlikely that the SDM would as well....
Corina / May 7, 2009 at 03:15 pm
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You know, there are 3 commercial properties considered to have a positive affect on property value: starbucks, shopper's drug mart, and a grocery chain.
Sean Galbraith replying to a comment from Corina / May 7, 2009 at 03:17 pm
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And in a shopping mall context, The Gap
Lala / May 7, 2009 at 03:42 pm
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The age old complaint...God forbid things are made convenient...
Andrea / May 7, 2009 at 04:10 pm
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I'm feeling woozy from the shots I'm taking every time I read the word "hipster".

Oh wait, I haven't actually played that drinking game yet, just conceived it.

Hoolahoops need a place to buy their Manic Panic hair dye.

Down with Shopper's Drug Mart! NIMBY!
(It's not actually MBY, I'm addicted to Optimum Points and I'm always glad when I see a Shopper's Drug Mart.)
Parkdalian / May 7, 2009 at 04:38 pm
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I live three blocks from here and i WELCOME this SDM. The Guardian down the street is very ugly and should retire. Besides, Shoppers is not tHat much more expensive. I shop at the one on Queensway and they have sales on there weekly!

Geographic-wise, it's in a perfect spot. Just the right distance from the semi-descent Guardian on Roncees.

*One question, where did that Thrift town go? I liked their second-hand selection there.
Kevin / May 7, 2009 at 05:19 pm
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I welcome SDM to the 'hood. I just moved into Parkdale Village because I run a business on Queen at Roncey. Now I can walk to Shoppers, which is a chain, and not a franchise.

Rexall and Guardian are part the same company, Drug Trading Company Ltd., which is not a chain or a franchise, but more of a co-op for independently owned pharmacies. It provides independently owned phramacies with the opportunity to offer better products and information that they wouldn't otherwise be able to offer at competitive rates. Without IDA, Guardian or Rexall (all part of DTCL), these businesses would be reduced to the level of old-school apothecary.

Parkdale is gentrifying. In five years it will be a completely different neighbourhood, one more geared towards artists and hipsters, with (hopefully) a cleaner sheen to it.
Kevin / May 7, 2009 at 05:20 pm
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I welcome SDM to the 'hood. I just moved into Parkdale Village because I run a business on Queen at Roncey. Now I can walk to Shoppers, which is a chain, and not a franchise.

Rexall and Guardian are part the same company, Drug Trading Company Ltd., which is not a chain or a franchise, but more of a co-op for independently owned pharmacies. It provides independently owned phramacies with the opportunity to offer better products and information that they wouldn't otherwise be able to offer at competitive rates. Without IDA, Guardian or Rexall (all part of DTCL), these businesses would be reduced to the level of old-school apothecary.

Parkdale is gentrifying. In five years it will be a completely different neighbourhood, one more geared towards artists and hipsters, with (hopefully) a cleaner sheen to it.
chenyip / May 7, 2009 at 06:16 pm
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SDM is the best thing to happen to Parkdale since well...1901.

I lived and work in the hood and this place is indeed a hood. Hookers turn tricks in alleyways, crack-heads are peddling rock like it was 1980, crack whore's are always asking for "smokes" or a "blow job" and fights always erupt on average once a week. Also there's the local drunks that use bus shelters as their day-time patios. God forbid an establishment comes in a "gentrifies" Parkdale. That would be the worst fucking thing imaginable.
krivel replying to a comment from chenyip / May 7, 2009 at 06:34 pm
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Yeah so let's raise the rents so we can push all those people out and its just like the problem disappeared!
Andrea replying to a comment from krivel / May 7, 2009 at 07:41 pm
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Where's Rudy Giuliani when you need him?
Elle Driver replying to a comment from krivel / May 7, 2009 at 09:37 pm
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Right, because the better solution is to leave things as they are and let the addicts and hookers keep their street corners, as if this should be the accepted norm?

(I guess you think the giant CAMH re-development site just down the street is a big waste of money and space?)
SCREWFACE replying to a comment from Kevin / May 7, 2009 at 09:50 pm
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Sorry, I didn't get that. One more time?

And it's been said before, THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN a Shoppers Drug Mart in the "'Hood" (did I hipster that correctly?).

Don't question it's come back. Shoppers Drug Mart's been here for years.
jannx / May 8, 2009 at 02:13 am
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it's good to put some lights on in otherwise streetfront retail. So I can't say a store opening by SDM is any better or worse than anyother store.

I will say that I find SDM to be the most expensive Canadian drug mart chain. Without getting into names I find most of my generic drug needs at costs of 20 - 30 percent less at other drug stores. If you really want to, check do it for yourself. SDM is a fine chain but costly.
Johnny Awesome / May 8, 2009 at 12:40 pm
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Who cares, its Parkdale.
People go west of Ossington?
Lala / May 8, 2009 at 02:02 pm
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Johnny's comment says everything about how elite and self revolved we are about our little bubbles.

It's like the video of the hipster who perceives a force field and can't bring himself to go north of Dundas.
chenyip replying to a comment from krivel / May 8, 2009 at 02:26 pm
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Sounds like a plan to me!

If you want to live in a neighborhood where it's impossible to sleep because of police sirens and where your kids can't play in the local park for fear of falling on a hypodermic needle, then I'm quite sure Rexdale has some vacancies.

somechick / May 8, 2009 at 03:54 pm
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what's wrong with shoppers? I just moved tothe area and i am pretty glad there's a pharamacy. I have been tothe other 2 drugstores and they are nothingto speak of. Come on, I'd rather have a shoppers than another art gallery nobody will visit! this is practical. And makes jobs!
Katie Bragg / July 14, 2010 at 05:37 pm
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Personally, I'm not disappointed about having the SDM being down the street from my home. Sure, it is a franchise. Sure, it's overly bright with a commercial look. However, I'm never let down with the products they carry.

There are a lot of great small-time retail shops in Parkdale that have stood the test of time. However, there are many small businesses that I still walk into and wonder... why am I here?

In many of the small businesses along Queen St. West, you are 'greeted' with a strange smell. It's almost like they moved in and ignored any hygiene problem with the building and started setting up shop just to get a couple of extra weeks of business in. Secondly, I walk into those stores wondering if I'll actually be able to find what I'm looking for. 80% of the time I don't find it. However, the 20% of the time that I do find these items, I'm pleasantly surprised about the cheap price.

So, here is when I'll explain my understanding of BIG franchises. They DO snuff out the unique and eclectic atmosphere of Parkdale. However, the reason why BIG franchises exist is because they carry the products that people expect them to carry. They are consistent, reliable, and usually quite reasonable with pricing (except if they are selling other, successful company's products at outrageous prices... but people still by it!).

I think that most people have realized that time is an issue when needing to purchase something. At this point, I'm just wondering why I should go to 6 different family-owned businesses HOPING to find what I need when I can go to a commercialized franchise and get what I want right away?

I never thought I would say that... until I moved to Parkdale.

-Katie

Debbie hall / March 18, 2011 at 03:37 am
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Purchased a digital camera in Oct. 2 months later it wasn't working. Went back for refund or return with receipt. Advised they do not stand behind their electronics. You have to deal with the manufacturer. This policy is not stated at their premises. I would not have purchased item if I had known this. People should be aware of this policy & stay away from purchasing electronics there. My friends & myself will not be doing business there in the future.

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