Music
The End of the Big Bop
It's likely many of the people who'll lament the passing of The Big Bop - the Queen and Bathurst club that was Toronto's home to metal, hardcore and other music with a notable underage following - are the sorts of people whose opinion isn't usually sought. Many of them can't vote, don't buy much, and certainly won't be among the clientele for the new tenants rumoured to be taking over the space - an American home furnishings chain that specializes in the loft market.
With the passing of the Bop and its three stages - Kathedral, the Reverb and Holy Joe's, in descending order of size - one of the last obstacles to the gentrification of the intersection, long considered a tough nut for developers, will disappear, but due to the club's customers and reputation, the reaction has been surprisingly muted. Dominic Tassielli was the owner of the Big Bop until three years ago, and the manager since then, on a lease renewed monthly, and during his decade and a half running the place, he saw it host everything from grizzled punk veterans like the Dayglo Abortions and the Cro-Mags to the nascent versions of bands like Billy Talent, Alexisonfire and At The Drive In.
Looking back, Tassielli says that there's no particular show that he remembers as fondly as the response he's gotten from a core group of customers he didn't know existed. "For the last two months that we were closing, I've been getting so many kids coming up to me and thanking me for the last 10, 12, 14 years that I've given them a venue where they could come and have fun. There aren't that many all-ages clubs, and I never thought we had a regular clientele, that we had a live venue and people just came for shows, but there were kids who came here maybe 30 times a year."
"It didn't matter what show - coming here and just having a good time. And I think seeing a lot of these bands that have made it - 14 years ago they might not have had a stage to play on, and who knows if they would have kept up with the music. Now they've moved on to bigger and better things, and who knows if they stuck to music because they played here maybe five or ten times a year."
Whoever the new owners are - and the leading rumour favours CB2, Crate & Barrel's "urban" subsidiary - they won't be starting from scratch with a new building. The building that's housed the Big Bop since the mid-80s is heritage landmarked, though it's hard to tell from its scabby, purple-painted exterior or the scuzzy, well-worn space inside.
It was the mid-80s when the Ballinger brothers, Lon, Stephen and Douglas, took over the Holiday Tavern, a down-at-heels nightclub whose scuffed retro decor had gone from stage shows featuring jazz and R&B acts to mid-day drinkers and end-of-career strippers, and a final gasp of life booking new wave acts like Gene Loves Jezebel and a weekend residency with the Shuffle Demons.
They gave it the winsome name it sported until this weekend, and a garish makeover that splashed new wave graphics in neon colours all over the the old tavern, which Tassielli painted over in the mid-90s with the assertive purple hue for which its underage clientele would know it. It was a dance club under the Ballingers' management, but turned to live music after they left for New York to make their reputation with premiere event space Webster Hall.
Before all of that, however, it was a Masonic lodge whose false domed ceiling can just be glimpsed over Reverb's dance floor. Called the Occidental Hall, it lost its top two stories and a magnificent mansard roof in 1948 when the Holiday was opened, decapitating a roofline that met its looming neighbour to the east, the recently redeveloped Burroughes Building. In an article in NOW magazine, Toronto architectural historian Alec Keefer called it a "desecration," and one that was only magnified by the massive 2008 fire that leveled most of the wood-framed block of buildings further to the east.
Tassielli says that the landlord is committed to putting $3 million into a renovation of the building, which will make it "quite the landmark," and workmen currently gutting the basement say that they'll start work on the rest of the place on Sunday, just hours after the last band plays its last note.


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I had some good times there, at some parties thrown by Sunshine Wayne.
Always loved wandering through the warren of rooms, never knowing where I would find myself, or who I would bump into.
Still, as long as the building is being loving restored, as opposed to what happened where the IT night club was simply torn down, I suppose it's just a sign of the times.
The Great Hall further down on Queen West can always serve as the new party spot, if people wish.
I have no idea how it still has "heritage landmark" status.
I never hung out on any of the floors much, but it's kind of sad that it's turning into a condo furniture store. (Do we need another lifestyle store?) Still, I can't wait to see what they do with the restoration; the building has 'great bones' and I'm glad it's a heritage site. Too bad they lopped off the top a while back, though!
If its such a big hit, this is a great opportunity for someone else to fill the void, Do IT, DO it Do it!!!1
The bigger picture as someone else mention is that it puts a serious blow on mid sized venues in this city for all ages shows. Now you may not give a shit about that, but I can guarantee you that there has been many local bands and touring bands, and music fans (of many different genres) that have made their way through that venue over the years (and maybe even some you like) and are fully aware of how this is going to affect the local music scene considerably for playing to all ages audiences. There is still going to be many 19+ venues to play at... but now options for All Ages shows is significantly lower.... and that is the key thing some of you are missing... ALL AGES shows at a mid sized venue... local bands booking out the Opera House is really not viable, its too big.... so what else is there right now?
And if you still don't get it, why don't you go by the Kathedral tonight, where you will have 5 local bands, made up of people that have been playing and supporting the venue and all ages shows for the last 12+ years, featuring Matadors, Heatskores (reunion show), and TerrorChargers (members of the 3Tards)... who will be putting on a FREE show because they understand how much the venue has given them over the years... on Facebook alone there has been over 1100 people saying they are wanting to go to the show and support the venue one last time (and this is for a venue which holds about 350-400)... that right there is pretty obvious that people do care. Maybe it will open your minds a little... my guess though is that it still wouldn't.
Moved away long ago, but I always got a kick out of the goth and metal kids still at it, several nights a week.
Its re-assignment to selling condo furniture better suits the kind of people who live downtown nowadays. Angry youths don't come here anymore.
I'd be curious to see what they do, as architecture aside, anything new in that space have SOME nod to the previous incarnation.
that place is such a shit hole, and attracts the same.
Can someone answer me this...
These people are bums/homeless/degenerates....yet they manage to own dogs?
These people can barely feed themselves with the chump change they have managed to bug people to give them, so where exactly do they get the money to pay for dog food/vet bills/etc??
Knowing their money goes to booze and drugs it appalls me these people are allowed have dogs.
Such a waste.
"Toronto the Bland" indeed.
1989 the number, another summer
Sound of the funky drummer
Toronto is just littered with wild dogs....
Very similar to Eastern Romania in that way...
Stupid Gypsy.
Unless you liked textile and fabric stores.
Good Riddance. It's a shame that a music venue is going, but I think the Big Bop brought more bad than good.
Call me when the public libraries start closing down.
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Right crazy sluts those two were. Good times. I'll miss them.
cheers!
Case closed.
Good to hear how rich you are though.
Right behind the building in the ally across from the Pizza Pizza, its a haven for drug using asshats that frequent the area.
If this is the local talent you speak of, well then you have a far different definition of talten than the rest of us do.
I prefer rock, not acid rock.
I always see drug deals going down in front of it.
We got to have a Holy Joe's sendoff on Sunday which was really wonderful.
Very sad to see it go.
the new venue is called The Rockpile www.therockpile.ca
it's at dundas w and east mall, right by hwy 427.
opening night is april 10th
We didn't say a word to eachother, we didn't have to...as quick as a bullet we each grabbed a case and ran off! Needless to say, we shared our good fortune with a few fellow broke friends and had one of the best nights of our lives. Warm beer never tasted so damn good!
We didn't say a word to eachother, we didn't have to...as quick as a bullet we each grabbed a case and ran off! Needless to say, we shared our good fortune with a few fellow broke friends and had one of the best nights of our lives.
Warm beer never tasted so damn good!
I went to a number of great shows there and always had a good time.
My memories of the Big Bop are nothing but good.
Late 80's, early 90's...great place to be on the weekend.
I'm glad I was able to experience and enjoy it.
I hope young people in Toronto have similar places to go today.
.When we found Webster Hall in NYC in 1990 i knew it was the end of our run .....We have all been together in NYC ever since ...Some old timers may remember some of our other clubs .........Just to make a wry comment......Its too bad so many of you sound so hostile.Lighten up folks lifes too short to be so bitter sounding ..Take care you fun folks and come see us in NYC someday and to so many ....thank you for the fond memories Toronto ...