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Morning Brew: TTC to investigate taking over GO lines, no rescue for Bixi, Pape station to close, food trucks get a break, Kensington Walmart "not over," and old time ads

Posted by Chris Bateman / July 25, 2013

toronto ontario placeThe TTC will investigate the possibility of using two existing GO Transit rail lines for its proposed Yonge Relief Line. A motion tabled at yesterday's board meeting by Chair Karen Stintz directs staff to report on electrifying the Lake Shore East and Georgetown lines for subway trains. Is this a practical way of saving on relief line costs?

One of the other big decisions out of yesterday's TTC meeting has consequences for the city's ailing Bixi program. The Board elected not to take on the bike share scheme, saying current internal issues take precedence, but did promise to investigate the idea if there are no other options to keep the business (and city-backed loan) secure.

Pape station will be closed August 19 to 30 to allow a major renovation and expansion project to wrap up early. Trains will bypass the station in both directions during the shut down. A labour dispute forced the closure to be pushed back by several weeks. Also in stations, the planned Black Creek Pioneer Village station (formerly Steeles West) is now simply Pioneer Village.

Food trucks are coming to several city parks later this summer. A new pilot project will allow participating vendors to operate out of Woodbine Park, Sherbourne Common, Roundhouse Park, Canoe Landing and Allan Gardens. Current bylaws prohibit the sale of food on city property but councillors Josh Colle and Mary-Margaret McMahon have been working on an elegant solution. Neat, right?

The CEO of RioCan says a controversial plan to build a Walmart on Bathurst Street "is not over." A moratorium on new retail and services introduced late last week means no new businesses over a certain size can open between Queen and Dupont. Ed Sonshine says RioCan could appeal the ban to the Ontario Municipal Board.

City councillor and MPP candidate Peter Milczyn is calling out rival Doug Holyday for using a city garbage truck during a photo opportunity. Holyday, currently Toronto's deputy mayor, posed with Conservative leader Tim Hudak in front of a Green For Life truck yesterday to illustrate ways he's saved taxpayers money in the past. Milczyn said he "found it hard to believe" anyone could borrow a truck for a few hours.

Finally, here's a selection of original real estate ads for several of Toronto's oldest planned neighbourhoods. Many of the city's residential areas, particularly in the west end, started as private subdivisions that were gradually annexed by the city. Buzz Buzz Home gathered a selection of original plans and adverts. Detached homes in Yorkville? It was once so.


Chris Bateman is a staff writer at blogTO. Follow him on Twitter at @chrisbateman.

Image: ZensLens/blogTO Flickr pool.



steve / July 25, 2013 at 08:33 am
Obviously (using David Miller logic) Bixi should be charging higher prices as that would be the only possible way for it to break even
Dave / July 25, 2013 at 09:00 am
The Bixi program simply cannot pay for itself. It never could, it never will. Shut it down. Shame on the people who voted to force the taxpayers to fund loan guarantees for another "Green Equals Failure" program.
Tracy / July 25, 2013 at 09:01 am
Peter Milczyn is scared because Holyday is pulling ahead of him and has pretty have this riding wrapped up. Holyday had my vote from the go. Sooner we kicked out the law breaking liberals the better Ontario will be.
Logan replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 09:10 am
Bixi is a Miller legacy. And now a public problem. Herr Miller's ideologically correct but financially unsustainable pet projects dot this city. Bixi is just one manifestation. Miller's way to deal with these white elephants is to get the public to fund it. Good thing Miller is gone and Giambrone no longer runs TTC. Stintz must not follow Giambrone's steps. Her riding is unlikly to support a NDP MPP in a few years.
William replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 09:20 am
Miller was a huge failure for this city, and will hurt us for years to come!
Brock replying to a comment from Logan / July 25, 2013 at 09:22 am
Thankfully Giambrone has no chance of winning on August 1st! Another riding that will go PC!
milo / July 25, 2013 at 09:28 am
the sheep need to realize Bixi is not supposed to make money.

Just like the TTC or the ROM or the AGO. It cannot be good and profitable. Not everything needs to churn a profit.
Logan replying to a comment from milo / July 25, 2013 at 09:33 am
Bixi should not be paid and run by the taxpayer. If it is such a great idea let private business look after it - isn't that what everyone preaches now days. Why should taxpayers pour endless amount of money to get it successful. When that happens some company will walk in and scoop it up for a fraction of its actual cost.
the lemur replying to a comment from Logan / July 25, 2013 at 09:36 am
You're calling him 'Herr Miller' as if he was somehow anything like Hitler. Bit of a stretch.

Ford pushes for a subway and tries to eliminate streetcars. So did Hitler. Just saying.
iskyscraper replying to a comment from milo / July 25, 2013 at 09:37 am
Lets just put the plain and simple information out here shall we folks?
"Bixi" was a loser for Toronto right from the Git Go as the upper management of Bixi tends to put the cart in front of the horse and Bixi wants the TTC to bail them out? lol

Just GIVE Bixi to the TTC and sell it to them for $1 and then take 4% of the profit.
That is all I would offer Bixi plain and simple period.
No headlights, no tail lights and no helmets.....4% of the profit.....take it or leave it.
Is there ANY profit for operating Bixi?
Not for the time being so suck it up buttercups.
Jill / July 25, 2013 at 09:57 am
Looks like the Sun's comments section in here.
Brock replying to a comment from the lemur / July 25, 2013 at 10:06 am
Not a stretch at all, when our children or grandchildren are stuck paying with the debt we forced upon us!
Steve replying to a comment from Jill / July 25, 2013 at 10:08 am
It's the same person having a conversion with himself. Repeating the same logic and myths over and over again until it sounds right. Normal people do not buy into his foolishness.
Dave replying to a comment from Jill / July 25, 2013 at 10:11 am
That is a good thing.
The Voice of Reason replying to a comment from iskyscraper / July 25, 2013 at 10:12 am
Let's face it! Most serious bikers would never rent a Bixie bike. They are ugly, look fit for a grandmother, only have 3 speeds and are overly expensive to rent compared to what they provide.

In an era when most empty nesters are clearing out their children's bikes, a good used name brand bike should be available on Kijiji for under $200. With community bike repairs in several parts of the city, there is no reason why Bixie should not be discarded immediately if they cannot reduce the yearly cost which I understand is $100 a year or more to rent. What a joke!
Live for Today replying to a comment from Brock / July 25, 2013 at 10:19 am
Not a stretch at all, when our children or grandchildren are stuck paying with the debt we forced upon us

So?? I'll be long dead then and won't have to worry about it.
AV / July 25, 2013 at 10:22 am
Funny watching/reading Dave and all his aliases talk to them(him)self this morning. A disinformation campaign at its "best"
Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 10:23 am
Ford and Stintz threw out a perfectly viable and funded LRT plan to Scarberia that serviced more people in more areas. We still don't know how much the Scarberia subway will cost to build and maintain. By ditching the LRT plans Ford has wasted $85 million in money spent on those plans.

How does Fuhrer Ford justify such an incredible and asinine waste of taxpayers' money?

Why are the taxpayers of Scarberia forced to wait until 2030 for subway that only goes 3 stops and will rip up roads and clog up traffic with construction? The LRT would have been built in 3 years time and is on a track separate from the road.

Oh, yeah! Ford doesn't have a plan or even an understanding of what he's dealing with.
Brock replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 10:34 am
He is doing what the taxpayers of Scarborough want, he is a true leader listening to what people want. Just because a few whiners downtown don't agree it makes ford a villain? hardly.
Dave replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 10:42 am
Wrong debate, we covered that last week.....moving on
the lemur replying to a comment from Brock / July 25, 2013 at 10:43 am
Uh, the children and grandchildren of people who were alive in Hitler's time are dealing with quite a different sort of debt/legacy than ours will be regarding the Miller administration (which Ford has already outspent).

Again, a wildly exaggerated comparison.
Jahn replying to a comment from Brock / July 25, 2013 at 10:44 am
How do we know Ford is listening? Is there any evidence that he has conducted a needs assessment because I haven't seen it. I live in Scarberia and I don't want to wait until 2030 for a half baked subway plan that will tear up our roads for 20 years.

Once the elections are over with, we'll find out that the feds won't be kicking in the extra cash for the subway and we'll be back to the original LRT plan. Unfortunately, it will be set back by numerous months because of part time Mayor Ford.

This is nothing but expensive pandering for votes.

Simon replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 10:50 am
Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 10:54 am
Using a city funded garbage truck for his election campaign? Not resigning while he runs for MPP?

So much for integrity! Holyday seems to have changed his tune rather quickly and is now going in whichever direction the wind is blowing.

For a guy who has stepped down from municipal politics while he runs for MPP, he sure seems to be hanging around city hall and using his council resources.

I guess Holyday doesn't feel too awkward about his loss of integrity. But that's par for the ol' golf course for the Cons.
Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 10:59 am
Part time Mayor Ford committed quite few factual errors while wiping his nervous, sweaty brow during last week's council debate. Thinking sure is hard!

Good thing he had his pal Nunziata to call an emergency recess for him to compose himself before he funneled all the funding from Sheppard over to Scarberia!
Jack replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 10:59 am
Take him over a corrupt liberal any day.
Dave replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 11:10 am
The Conservatives believe a truck owned by a private person can be loaned to any political party the owner choses to while the Liberals, as usual, believe all property belongs to the state. If they had there way it would. Nothing new here, move along!!!!!
Lance replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 11:20 am
There is a disconnect Jahn. See these folks can't differentiate between City owned and private owned... because they struggle with the thought of contracting. To them GFL now is city property. So they see it as a city resource being used and their heads explode... but this truck is owned and can be used as the company sees fit. once they realize that, They'll say the logo should have been painted over... followed by how conflict is created by a company endorsing a candidate... etc...
Warren replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 11:28 am
Etobicoke-Lakeshore must be shaping up to be a close race. Otherwise, why would the Liberals be in such a snit? Voters need to send the Liberals a message on August 1 and defeat them in all five ridings up for grabs - followed up of course by a rout of the Liberals in the next general election
Craig / July 25, 2013 at 11:58 am
Can we stop comparing politcal figures to Hilter? Neither Miller nor Ford have anything in common with the man. Using the comparison devalues the commentors opinions.
James replying to a comment from Warren / July 25, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Liberals in my riding are falling far behind holyday, which puts a smile on my face.
jen / July 25, 2013 at 12:42 pm
I think it's safe to say that Dave Price has some mental issues. Honestly, all these conversations back and forth between himself with different names plugged in, it's insanity.

Is there any way for the moderators of BlogTO to block him? Torontoist got rid of him, it would be nice if you guys could do the same. He's an idiot and isn't contributing anything of value to the comments, not to mention the fact that he's wasting a taxpayer funded salary on internet trolling.
Dave replying to a comment from jen / July 25, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Dream on lady!
G replying to a comment from jen / July 25, 2013 at 12:56 pm

Dave Price and all his various aliases are ruining what used to be a really great community discussion. Your Comment Policy (copied below) says this is grounds for removal. Please do it.

Technically, yes. But we encourage you to always use the same name. We can monitor IP addresses and if we see a number of comments (particularly on the same post) coming from the same IP address but from different names this may be ground for removal if we determine a commenter is “pretending” to be a number of different people.
Disqus Please / July 25, 2013 at 01:12 pm
So, most of the comments on this page today (and for the last week) have been "Dave", posting under dave, tracy, william, logan, brock, iskyscraper, voice of reason, live for today and other names.

I have no problem with people posting stupid opinions -- that's what the rest of us are here for, to correct them in a public forum and show them the error of their ways. The problem is when they post entire fake conversations with themselves using all sorts of userids (some of which "belong" to others).

Please change to Disqus so that comments can be identified, or failing that please ban that IP.

And also, I think every reader of this page but one would be very, very interested to know if Dave's IP is registered to the City of Toronto. This is a potential media story in itself.

AV / July 25, 2013 at 01:18 pm
"one would be very, very interested to know if Dave's IP is registered to the City of Toronto. This is a potential media story in itself."

And being paid too, via working in the mayor's office, by the "fine taxpayers of this city" as dear leader always calls us.
Alex replying to a comment from G / July 25, 2013 at 01:18 pm
Yes, please remove him! It's just creepy seeing one person converse with himself online with so many different aliases. It's like watching a slow descent into madness.

Yay for the TTC using the rail lines! If they aren't being used by anyone else and it can be done then do it. Assuming those lines are free for TTC use then it's a brilliant plan to build cheap infrastructure that is greatly needed.
freedominfo replying to a comment from Disqus Please / July 25, 2013 at 01:28 pm
I'd also like to know if we have a right through freedom if information to find out exactly what Dave Price does with his time, using our tax dollars. Rob Ford is about "respecting the taxpayer".

I also asked this before too: can we find out the reasoning behind all the resignations during the crack scandal. Ford also said he doesn't talk about "personnel matters", but we are his employer along with all the other people who quit. Don't we have right to know?
Lance replying to a comment from freedominfo / July 25, 2013 at 01:45 pm
I have met David Price at several functions. He is the Director of Logistics and seems to do a fine job. I would like to know why the insanity exists when right wing views are expressed?
It seems out of desparation the left continously tries to mute the right, but feels it has the right to slam every opinion it does not take to.
Very sad when profanity gets exchanged as the conversation today was quite healthy and interesting.
Dave / July 25, 2013 at 01:46 pm
For some reason I am feeling loved today, myabe it was because rob gave me a hug today.
Jacob replying to a comment from Alex / July 25, 2013 at 01:47 pm
"It's like watching a slow descent into madness."

It's past the descent, now. It's like a subway ride through the various stations of madness.
freedominfo replying to a comment from Lance / July 25, 2013 at 01:57 pm
Thanks for stating his job title again... a title we're all aware of but have no idea what it actually means, and what he does.

All we do know is that he puts fridge magnets on cars. Can you elaborate what he does and how you know that he "seems to do a fine job".

When we argue against "Dave" and all his aliases on the site, we argue with facts, while Dave argues with opinion and talking points. By his writing style, it's obvious that he posts under various names, so all we're asking for is some accountability, and not censorship.

So again... please inform us. Tell us what Dave Price does and how you know he's doing a find job.
iskyscraper replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 02:14 pm
The TTC will be all over Bixi as soon as they can figure out to how to add a couple hundred more jobs to the program. Watch, they'll end up with two TTC sales people at every bike rack, bike security officers, cleaners to sweep around the bike areas, and then some sign people to position around every bike area to let people know where the bikes are and how to pay for them.
Jacob replying to a comment from freedominfo / July 25, 2013 at 02:17 pm
Every one of Ford's toadies is "doing a fine job" by default. It's beyond question, of course.

(Until they say something Ford doesn't like, that is, then they abruptly become the target of foaming hatred and are lumped in with the "lefties.")
Dave replying to a comment from iskyscraper / July 25, 2013 at 02:27 pm
Paying $4,500 for one lousy bike is not a pittance and shows extreme financial recklessness if you ask me. And neither gov. nor it's monster offspring, the TTC, have any responsibility for bikes. We lack transit, traffic flow, have over 100,000 citizens who can't afford to live without gov. help, we need non-rusty water, major infrastructure improvements, to remove the Gardiner, etc. Bikes, showers, bike lanes that cost $1M/km just are not in the city's mandate and must be axed and kept out of any budget.
Jahn replying to a comment from iskyscraper / July 25, 2013 at 02:37 pm
Kind of like the Sun's part time Mayor Rob Ford having a Director of Logistics?

Does the Office of the part time Mayor do a lot of shipping?

go / July 25, 2013 at 02:49 pm
Dave is destorying this website, he is a sicko and needs to be banned.
Jacob replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 02:51 pm
"Does the Office of the part time Mayor do a lot of shipping?"

A few small deliveries from Detroit now and then. ;)
iskyscraper replying to a comment from go / July 25, 2013 at 02:57 pm
I find Dave's comments refreshing and interesting. I do not always agree with his points, but he does express clean and accurate information.
soda / July 25, 2013 at 03:01 pm
I want a subway running into etobicoke on the lakeshore west go line!

maybe it could be viable at some point in the future :( until then I am waiting and wishing.

this is an interesting idea though, much easier to use existing above ground rail lines rather than digging up streets and making new underground lines.
Jahn replying to a comment from iskyscraper / July 25, 2013 at 03:13 pm
Multiple personality disorder is a fascinating thing!

Don't you have some labels to affix to boxes? UPS will be there by 5 pm for their usual pick ups.
Dr. Acula replying to a comment from iskyscraper / July 25, 2013 at 03:29 pm
Replying to yourself Dave? And you wonder why you're single.
Dave: lackey, or a serious cancer on his Mom's finances? YOU decide! replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 03:50 pm
Oh Dave, when will you learn? If only you had the balls, I'd love to take you out for coffee and break things down for you. But you're too chicken for that..aren't you?

God, I'd even toss $500 to your favourite charity just to have the pleasure of shaking your hand.

Any chance, Dave? 20 minutes, and you can order whatever you like. Bring a camera crew if you're worried about your safety.

I make the challenge because I'm sick of seeing BlogTO in the toilet. People are fed up with Dave because he's taken over the comments on Blogto for weeks now. What's worse is, he ties up the comments board with tons of false names. 12 of the next 10 comments after yours are him trolling and/or agreeing with himself. Although some find his name choices funny, it's like the only book in his house is a baby name book from the 50's. I have no problem with a dissenting viewpoints, but he's pushed off the original iSkyscraper by assuming his name. I really enjoyed his comments, they were by a reasoned, concise, and literate commenter. Now he's gone because of an illterate, repetitive, angry borderline troll gets paid by Team Ford to be here.

It wouldn't be so bad if he was either original or had any thoughts that came from his own head...or could write in a way that wasn't 1000% transparent, but he can't. He's out of his league, even by open forum standards on a site like this. Even compared to the civic-minded twentysomethings who drop in, or the clearly newbie contingent you see from time to time...Dave is amateur hour, through and through.

All Dave can do (poorly) act like he knows what he's talking about, invert National Citizens' Coallition tactics and label them as being well-known traits of the NDP/Liberals* (speaking of which, he also employs ridiculous, Ezra Levant-esque catchphrases such as Lieberals, a sure sign of a troll/midget intellect**)

Oh, and he uses the word "intellect" a lot, sometimes incorrectly, which is the kind of word/kind of mistake only someone who is miming being smart would toss around. Like the kid who grew up poor always bragging a little too hard that he's tried caviar. Again, transparent as glass.

I think the thing I love most about Dave though is that he keeps referencing the name of the lone intellectual he's ever heard of, and no one ever takes the he just has to keep trotting it out, hoping that someone will take him to task so he can expound upon just how right/smart/witty he is. Hilarious! Like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football, Dave, you're always going to end up flat on your back. Which is --to cheapen my entire argument here for easy laughs-- a bit like your Mom. Isn't it?
Dave / July 25, 2013 at 04:12 pm
Brock replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 04:25 pm
Bailing out Bixi would be a much more efficient expenditure per rider than either the Existing Sheppard Subway or the proposed Scarbourough Subway.

Funny how the Populist Politicians like Mike Harris and Rob Ford will let No-o-obody or no-o-o-dollar amount get in the way of their pet projects.

A billion for a money losing Subway to nowhere and billions more in Scarborough when an LRT would do a better job in much less time.

Maybe OHIP can save Bixi because it would lower obesity for many commuters thus lowering healthcare costs.
Alex replying to a comment from Brock / July 25, 2013 at 04:47 pm
I'm surprised the black hole TTC did not buy it up and continue their looting of taxpayers.

Since 1996 TTC adult fares have gone up 150% while fuel prices have gone up 238%.
The adult fare should be 4.75 but since all the governments of this backwoods hillbilly province have the collective intelligence of a pea, car drivers are paying to haul Toronto's richest and poorest people around for peanuts.
If you think that is stupid,how about this- It costs 3 times the cost of fuel to drive on the 407 ,and all the money goes straight to Spain while Ontario taxpayers are on the hook to supply OPP to police this misbegotten highway.
Wren replying to a comment from Alex / July 25, 2013 at 04:59 pm
"Bixi Toronto, the bikeshare program floundering under a city loan debt, will most likely not be rescued by the Toronto Transit Commission."

The very first sentence in this article is completely inaccurate. Bixi is struggling with debt. But that is a simple matter of expenses exceeding revenue. It is not floundering under a city loan debt. The city, in fact, has guaranteed the loan. So, in fact, Bixi could go broke and the city would repay the loan. Not exactly floundering.

The REAL Gravy Train replying to a comment from Brock / July 25, 2013 at 05:21 pm
I was wondering if anyone had picked up on the fact that the money the city has squandered by constantly changing its mind on transit projects would likely fund BIXI for 50 years. Talk about gravy indeed.

Somehow. despite the City being "broke" (as we constantly hear from certain politicians) we can scare up an additional billion dollars (cancelling a fully funding LRT project in the process) for a subway extension that apparently serves no other purpose except to build up Scarborough's self-esteem, and will undoubtedly lose money for many many years because its ridership will be too low relative to cost, but we act like a couple of millions dollars to help out BIXI (which provides a service that virtually every "world class" city in the world happily supports and encourages) which would help it expand and possibly become something close to self-reliant, is somehow an example of government spending gone wild. Yeesh.

Dan replying to a comment from Jahn / July 25, 2013 at 05:28 pm
You know Jahn, your comments would carry more weight if you spread them around under multiple usernames.

As someone who has been reading this site for a few years now (as I'm sure other have gathered and noted above) the comments descending into cesspool of mouthbreathers began when Dave arrived on the scene. I doubt it's a coincidence all these people arrived at the same time.
MIller, the new Reagan! replying to a comment from steve / July 25, 2013 at 05:35 pm
I love how pro-Ford/Hudak/Harper folks on here are SOOOO desperate to re-brand Miller's legacy as an epic failure (and, to a lesser extent, McGuinty's time in office). The sheer scope of revisionism is as hilarious as it is incredible. Almost the reverse of what Conservatives have been trying to do for years in rehabilitating Ronald Reagan's disastrous turn as President.

Look folks, love them or hate them, the fact is Miller did an amazing job for this city, and McGuinty did a pretty fine job as well, especially given the fact they both helmed through the recession. Yes, both of them screwed up, and more than once. And both eventually paid the price. But no one else could have done a better job shepherding the City/Province as they did, whether from someone in their ranks or from the other sides of the aisle. Just because your garbage wasn't collected for a few weeks isn't reason enough for your brains/capacity to reason to ooze the sides out of your heads.

I think it's just sour grapes, because they had to suffer through such a lengthy spell of non-conservative governments. But god, don't be such crybabies. We're suffering through probably the worst PM in modern times, but you don't see people constantly weeping into their hankies to anyone who'll listen on BlogTO.

Accept the fact that history will see both these leaders in a positive light, and no amount of bedwetting will change that.
Dave replying to a comment from MIller, the new Reagan! / July 25, 2013 at 05:50 pm
And they claim Ford smoked crack!
Logan replying to a comment from MIller, the new Reagan! / July 25, 2013 at 05:58 pm
Miller bugged the hell out of me, but I have to agree that he actually did far more good than not. Better than the five previous mayors before him, at least. Ford is out of his depth, I wish he'd go back to being a councillor so he'd actually DO something for a change, he was a pretty solid councillor. Well, to his constituents at least...he sorta just acted as Gadfly/Anchor-in-Chief to the rest of Council for the last 10 years, gumming up the works just to show his Ward that he could be a fly in the ointment, but that plays to a certain crankypants crowd, right?
Etobicoke replying to a comment from MIller, the new Reagan! / July 25, 2013 at 06:17 pm
let me ask you this, what exactly has miller done for etobicoke where i live. 1. expand transit - nope 2. Keep taxes low - nope 3. Fix/improve our roads that are in poor shape - nope and the list goes on and on. So i fail to see what he has done for us outside the downtown core. This is why Ford was elected, though Ford is complete f@ck up. Least he is acknowledging us and trying to keep taxes low.
Seriously...Ford has to GO replying to a comment from The REAL Gravy Train / July 25, 2013 at 06:21 pm
The REAL gravy train is Rob Ford...The Sun reported earier this year that Ford has canceled so many projects so far that he's already DOUBLED the amount of wasted tax dollars Miller was responsible for, but Ford did it in 3 years whereas Miller had 10 years.

This Ford bozo is a no-show in the brains dept.--let's punch his ticket...back to Etobicoke!
Dave / July 25, 2013 at 07:08 pm
Wow, a barrage of leftist hate. No doubt a cheap attack to hijack the blog.
MIller, the new Reagan! replying to a comment from Etobicoke / July 25, 2013 at 07:14 pm
"Let me ask you this, what exactly has miller done for Etobicoke where i live."

Who cares? Etobicoke is SO the ugly step-sister of amalgamation that even people who live there don't care about the place. Hell, their District Flower is a dirty plastic bag stuck in a dead tree. Barf-o!

Honestly, as long as we keep shoveling solid projects to North York and Scarborough, and making sure the lights are on downtown, I think we've covered all the bases we need to.
Hee...Daveyboy said "leftist" replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 07:21 pm
Catchphrase/groupthink, much?

Wavey Davey! replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 07:43 pm
Claimed he smoked crack??? Claimed? The Mayor used crack --well, COCAINE-- with dozens of people for years and years, all on record. There's no claim, that's why kids who grew up with the Monica Lewinsky scandal thought oral sex was not sex, kids from today grow up thinking it's fine for politicians to smoke crack, like Mayor McLifelongDrugUser.


And Etobicoke STILL supports him. But that's what you get from living beside industrial fumes your entire life.
Dave replying to a comment from Wavey Davey! / July 25, 2013 at 07:52 pm
There is no record of Ford using crack. Anyone that claims that Miller and Mcguinty left good legacies clearly used it themselves.
Dave = Lance replying to a comment from Lance / July 25, 2013 at 08:02 pm
"Very sad when profanity gets exchanged as the conversation today was quite healthy and interesting."

Only Dave is pedantic enough to worry about salty language.

Grow a pair, faerie-child.
Dave replying to a comment from Dave = Lance / July 25, 2013 at 08:12 pm
This coming from the "smartest" guy in the room.
Ford = Hitler replying to a comment from the lemur / July 25, 2013 at 08:17 pm
They both like subways!

(And crack)
Biki bikes have been a bargain replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 09:12 pm
Dave's math is all off. Which is funny because you'd think from doing drug count in high school with Mayors Bob and Doug that'd he'd be more up to speed.

Math is hard, eh boyo?
Ford Bros. and a donkey in an elevator, and the donkey farts. replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 09:14 pm
"This coming from the "smartest" guy in the room."

Gee Dave,

I was just going to say the same thing!

Twinnies! :)
Ford admitted his crack use years ago replying to a comment from Dave / July 25, 2013 at 09:17 pm
But Addicts Anonymous is exactly that--Anonymous! So it isn't fair for people to pressure those others who went through the program with Rob Ford. For the sake of the City, it doen't matter that Rob Ford went for crack counselling ages ago, it's a private matter and is in the past. Plus a lot of those people have moved on to better lives, so don't drag them down in the Mayor's dirty laundry too!
Lourne / July 25, 2013 at 10:42 pm
Why don't they just take the 3.1 Million that Bixi is in debt DIVIDED BY the number of riders and yearly members they have. Then, DIVIDE BY 3 to pay for it over three years AND CHARGE / FIX THE PRICE AS THAT ACROSS ALL ITS MEMBERS?

If its such a good value, and the members love it so much over just buying their own bike THEN PAY FOR IT!!!! Pay for it in your membership fees, you hourly rental rate all should go up to reflect. If its worth it! PAY FOR IT!!! PAY TO PLAY!!!!!!
Me replying to a comment from Lourne / July 25, 2013 at 11:39 pm
Serge / August 1, 2013 at 06:03 pm
The problem is the Bixi network is too small. Let's say I'm a business -- how do I get a Bixi stand in front of my business? Shouldn't they make it easy, like publish a price list, and good to go?
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