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Morning Brew: Group pitches convention centre casino, Stintz knocks PC transit plan, Google expands GTA StreetView, e-bikes on trails, and council gets a TV show

Posted by Chris Bateman / October 12, 2012

toronto HTO beachA development group is preparing to unveil plans for a casino in the Metro Toronto Convention Centre, according to the Globe and Mail. The complex, which involves adding three towers to the property, would include a gambling hall and hotel as well as office and residential units. Numerous other gambling groups are also mulling proposals.

TTC chair Karen Stintz doesn't think much of a plan by Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak to hand over Toronto's subways to Metrolinx. In a post on her website, Stintz derided the PCs for selecting the best parts of the TTC without proposing any ways to pay for new transit. She did say, however, that a full merger would be worth talking about.

Google StreetView is now in Toronto Zoo and Yonge-Dundas Square but not, weirdly, several parts of the city's regular street grid. Though Google unveiled a massive worldwide update to its ground-level coverage, including a ski resort in Banff and the Niagara Parks Botanical Gardens, it left out parts of Etobicoke, Scarborough, and the area south of Greenwood and Danforth.

Should e-bikes be allowed to use Toronto's bike lanes and trails? A group of riders told the city's public works and infrastructure committee yesterday that riders feel don't feel safe in regular traffic and want equal access to the bikeway network. Right now, e-bikes and all other powered vehicles are banned from bike lanes.

The City of Toronto will air a bi-weekly television show on Rogers TV Cable starting October 16. Called "City Insider," the program will air "stories about City programs and services, new initiatives, events and the people that make up the Toronto Public Service." What, no table-thumping Rob Ford rhetoric?

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Discussion

17 Comments

ebikessuck / October 12, 2012 at 08:35 am
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E-bikes (they should be called scooters) are a menace! The people riding them are mostly beyond clueless, break more rules than cyclists, and go way too fast. They should be licensed and required to be in car lanes. The only reason people buy and ride them is because they are not required to be licensed like a real scooter or car. Don't give me this crap that you feel unsafe outside of the bike lane. The people around you feel unsafe when you are around.
Rob / October 12, 2012 at 08:45 am
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They already are using the bike lanes. The problem with ebikes on bike lanes is that they are at least twice as fast as normal bike commuter traffic so I see them constantly overtaking and dangerously passing normal bikes. Also, the fake pedals make them much wider than a normal bike which is why overtaking is dangerous.

Speaking of fake pedals, I've never seen an ebikes pedals actually in use, they are really under powered scooters. Let's treat them as such.

They should not be allowed on trails at all. I've seen 3 ebikes on the lakeshore trail and all 3 were riding dangerously fast.
the lemur / October 12, 2012 at 09:13 am
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Feel unsafe in regular traffic? The whole point of being motorized and able to travel faster and accelerate faster than a regular bike is that an e-bike CAN keep up with regular traffic.

E-bikers screw up the flow of bike lane traffic and are a hazard when they switch back and forth from bike lane to roadway. The worst part of it is that not only are almost all e-bikers ignorant of the current rule about no motorized anything in the bike lanes, they always give some kind of lame, self-serving excuse when you call them on it: 'It's technically a bike', 'But there are no emissions', etc.
iSkyscraper / October 12, 2012 at 09:16 am
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Despite my frequent comments here, I'm quite moderate politically, even a tad conservative (small c), and very open to the PC transit plan. But Stintz (seriously, run for Mayor please because you would a) win and b) be awesome) is correct that it is a full merger that should be discussed. Somehow leaving out streetcars and buses smacks of either economic elitism (trains and subways are much higher-income ridership) or anti-streetcar bull.

So, yeah, just merge already. Ignoring Montreal and Calgary for a moment, which being Canadian are also stunted in their municipal thinking, take a look at the US. The ONLY city I can think of that still owns its core-city transit system is San Francisco, and I don't think anyone should use that basketcase of Muni-BART-Ace-Caltrain-regional buses as any kind of functional model. Everyone else is regional, period. Sure, the US system evolved from their cities going through a period of absolutely sucking, where every single transit system went bankrupt and had to be uploaded to the region due to virtually the entire non-destitute population leaving the city proper, but in modern urban-suburban North America the model works. You leave the TTC to focus on Toronto issues, but they would report to Metrolinx, whose board would be picked by a combination of the province and the municipalities and the unions. This is how the NYC regional agency does it:

http://www.mta.info/mta/leadership/board.htm#appointment

Can that many cities really be wrong?
t / October 12, 2012 at 09:22 am
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I'm a cyclist who doesn't ride an ebike at all and I feel perfectly fine with ebikes riding in bike lanes. They do go faster but they're usually quite courteous about passing. I've never felt unsafe around one.

My general rule is if you run on gas you don't belong in the bike lane, but electricity is fine.
Jacob / October 12, 2012 at 09:38 am
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I can't think of a thing Downtown needs less than a casino.

That would have the effect of dropping 5 "Entertainment Districts" on the city in one small, concentrated space.
Ratpick replying to a comment from t / October 12, 2012 at 09:59 am
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"My general rule is if you run on gasoline you don't belong in the bike lane, but NUCLEAR/COAL/NATURAL GAS/HYDRO DAMS are fine"

There, fixed it for you. You fell into a common trap: confusing motive power with fuel source.
Joe / October 12, 2012 at 10:02 am
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I was just in San Francisco a couple of months ago and their transit system was amazing. Everything moved quickly and their subway/LRT/regional transit was great. Let's not forget, about 30 years ago the TTC was one of the best transit systems in the world. Today it's the most efficient transit system in North America when you consider that less than 30% of their revenue comes from the government http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farebox_recovery_ratio

If we were to reverse all the cuts and downloading that Mike Harris made to the TTC, things would be much better. Creating agencies like Metrolinx only creates more bureaucracy and waste. We need to stop voting for the same political parties that keep snubbing the GTA (e.g. the Conservatives and Liberals) McGuinty just wasted close to $1 Billion to cancel a power plant so he can win 4 seats in Mississauga. Meanwhile he refuses to sufficiently fund the TTC, or even fulfill his promises on Transit City. But the liberals keep winning seats in Toronto - at some point that has got to change.
the lemur replying to a comment from Ratpick / October 12, 2012 at 10:40 am
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LOL. My favourite are the e-bikers who style themselves as enviro-crusaders while totally ignoring the question of what the body of their bike is made of or where the battery will end up when it's depleted.
jenny / October 12, 2012 at 11:34 am
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E-bikes use bike lanes all the bloody time, and they come up behind regular bikes quickly and silently. They don't ding a bell or anything for the pass, and you don't hear them until they are on your side. Not safe at all.

Worst of all, riding one makes you look like a nerd.
Tommy / October 12, 2012 at 01:07 pm
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Stintz's letter was too passive aggressive. We need some fangs. Huduk obviously wants to package up the only profitable part of the TTC, and ready it for sale to the private sector, leaving bus service in the lurch. Whether it's piggy-backing off Ford's transit rhetoric ("subways!", "war on the car!"), or spouting this new BS, Huduk shows he has no clue how transit in this city works. If I was a conservative I'd be embarrassed, and praying Peter Shurman takes his place.
everyone / October 12, 2012 at 01:29 pm
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what I don't understand is why does hudak keep speaking when he had his ass handed to him in what should have been the easiest win in history. nobody gives an f about what this guys thinks about anything he needs to just shut the f up already. does he think there is an election soon?
Cyclist Runnerover / October 12, 2012 at 04:14 pm
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Hipster cyclists complaining about another type of hipster cyclist. Made my day.
the lemur replying to a comment from Cyclist Runnerover / October 12, 2012 at 09:47 pm
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E-bikers are oldsters and dorks, not hipsters.
Lakeshore pedestrian / October 13, 2012 at 12:01 am
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I am a motor scooters rider and I like to walk along the west end lakefront trail.
Alot of people call ebikes, DUI bikes. Lose your license for doing something stupid? Get a ebikes. Alot of the ebikes riders (not all)really do fit the dui name though by the looks of them.
As a walker on trails, they can really startle you! You don't here the tell tale hum until they are right on you.
I often see two bikes riding together with passengers over at the Humber bridge. I yelled "your not supposed to be on trails" they stopped and looked like they wanted to start a Fight with me
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