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Morning Brew: New TTC Rocket subway temporarily out of service thanks to anti-Ford graffiti, York University considers giving security handcuffs and batons, and the Sun asks if taxpayers should pay for Layton's state funeral

Posted by Brianne Hogan / August 24, 2011

Jack Layton OfficeThis is classy. A new Toronto rocket subway train was temporarily pulled out of service after someone spray painted "F--k Rob Ford" inside. The quick-thinking vandal also noticed the train's security camera and spray painted the lens too. TTC spokesman Brad Ross said he was unsure if there were witnesses and the investigation is still ongoing. I'm not picking sides on the "graffiti vs. Rob Ford" debate, but did it really have to be one of the new rockets?

More news from the city's underground transit. Unlike yesterday's report of a violent altercation on a TTC streetcar, this latest show of violence on a TTC subway car did involve a TTC employee. Just before 9 p.m. last night, a TTC employee was viciously beaten after approaching a man who was hopping between moving subway cars as the train was pulling into Islington station. A suspect has been charged with assault.

In response to the university being deemed unsafe, York University is considering equipping its security staff with batons and handcuffs, allowing them to intervene when criminal activity is suspected and possibly detain suspects. Previously, security staff were told not to do anything when they saw suspicious activity but to call police, which makes you wonder why they were called "security staff" and not just "staff." Needless to say, not all York students are thrilled about the idea.

Now it's the Sun's turn to rain down on the Jack Layton funeral parade (procession) questioning whether Layton's state funeral is the appropriate choice in spending taxpayers' money. Joe Warmington argues that Layton was never a prime minister, cabinet minister, or even John Lennon, so where does the line stop? He also wonders if the money would be better off spent in Goderich, or for the homeless, which is just silly because we all know how the Sun feels about the homeless.

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Photo by mauriciojcalero in the blogTO Flickr pool

Discussion

35 Comments

Come On / August 24, 2011 at 08:18 am
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Come on don't spray the new subway, if you got to tag F rob ford do it to his huge SUV.

Screw the sun, I went to their web site last night for the first time in months and one of the headlines is child born with clown nose. Who in their right mind would take that tabloid seriously? Plus there is huge public support for the state funeral and Harper made the right call.
jeff / August 24, 2011 at 08:26 am
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"questioning whether Layton's state funeral is the appropriate choice in spending taxpayers' money."

That would be his perfect ending!

Mr. Layton loved to live large off the public. To do so in death would be perfect... in his mind and his family.

Time to stop this endless expense to 'working families'.
workingfamily replying to a comment from jeff / August 24, 2011 at 08:49 am
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As a working family we support this funeral, let's see how much Harper is living large off our tax dollars. Or how his side kicks shuffle 50 million dollars for their pet projects up north.
drew / August 24, 2011 at 08:56 am
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Rob Ford should ban paint
jeff replying to a comment from workingfamily / August 24, 2011 at 08:56 am
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You assume I support Harper and further find no fault with the wasted $$s on pet projects. And you are wrong.

To that end Mr. Layton was a huge waster of $$$s on pet projects. His funeral is and should be a family matter and expense. Unfortunately, like every other aspect of his life it too is up for public subsidy.

Trevor replying to a comment from workingfamily / August 24, 2011 at 09:04 am
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Don't you know not to feed the trolls?
Xavier / August 24, 2011 at 09:04 am
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I think that a sitting leader of the opposition is the same stature as a sitting cabiniet minister. I also believe that this is the first time a sitting leader of the oppostion has died in office. So the state funeral, while unprecedented, seems warranted
yep / August 24, 2011 at 09:10 am
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Ahhh, more respectful behaviour by graffiti children.
TorontosArtistCommunity / August 24, 2011 at 09:14 am
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How dare the TTC remove beautiful art from these cars! Someone put their heart and soul into that piece!
workingfamily replying to a comment from Trevor / August 24, 2011 at 09:18 am
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yeah, I should of known better. :(
Rob / August 24, 2011 at 09:20 am
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Here's the thing, I'm ok with the state funeral for Mr. Layton but imagine if the person who died was Gilles Duceppe, Lucien Bouchard or another current/former MP from Quebec with strong sepratist ties, would you have a state funeral for them?

In the case of Bouchard he was the Leader of the Opposition and in the case of Duceppe his popularity (recent election aside is probably comparable to Jack's in Toronto). I think the potential for a slippery slope is huge. It is fair to ask if this is appropriate but maybe not 36 hours after it happened.
MrPotato / August 24, 2011 at 09:30 am
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I think Layton could use all of that money he is saving on his hydro bill to pay for this funeral!
yep replying to a comment from Rob / August 24, 2011 at 09:31 am
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Nobody would dream of suggesting a state funeral for Duceppe or Bouchard.
Ottawa would do something official of some sort, but nothing big like they will for Layton.
There is no slippery slope, because when somebody dies who nobody gives a shit about, it never becomes bigger than it is.
auditorydamage replying to a comment from Xavier / August 24, 2011 at 09:36 am
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CBC stated a couple of nights ago that Wilfrid Laurier was Opposition leader when he died, after 15 years as prime minister.

Leave it to the Sun to pee all over the grave of a politician their editorial staff dislikes before it's even dug. I have to ask how they would react if the Opposition leader had been Harper - and if the Star published a similar article. Quebecor is trying really hard to be Canada's equivalent to News Corporation.
dnr / August 24, 2011 at 09:58 am
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F The Toronto Sun. Has anyone watched their hilarious news channel? Looks and sounds like Libyan State TV. Michael Coren asked viewers yesterday if there would be an outpouring of emotion if a right wing politician had died. The answer is no. People like Joe Warmington, M. Coren and even Christie Blatchford are always pissing on anything that seems like it's the right thing to do.
When RFK was running for president in '68 he was confronted by someone on camera about all the social programs that he was going to enact. When the reporter sneered at him and said "who's going to pay for all this", He looked the reporter in the eye and said "YOU ARE".
Correct replying to a comment from auditorydamage / August 24, 2011 at 10:09 am
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http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/2/4/h4-3181-e.html

50,000 people for his funeral was huge back then, what I didn't know his funeral was one of the first public events in Canada to be recorded on film.
jd3545 / August 24, 2011 at 10:27 am
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Of course a state funeral should be held for Leader of the Opposition if it was someone like Gilles Duceppe or Lucien Bouchard. Nothing is more fitting than a Canadian state funeral, cementing them as Canadian for all eternity! I doubt their supporters would ever want this, but I'd love to see it.
mike / August 24, 2011 at 10:32 am
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So it's "woo rock on anarchist artists! Beautify toronto!" When it's someone's property but it's "aww come on did you have to?" When they vandalize something you value?
Rob / August 24, 2011 at 10:42 am
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Even in death, Layton is spending my money...lol. In any case, props to the Sun for having the balls to at least ask the question.

I just have an issue with the sudden outpouring of love towards Layton from many people who probably didn't care about him at all in life.

Reminds me of the wave of new Nirvana fans after Cobain died.
Rob / August 24, 2011 at 10:44 am
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Also, with respect to Harper approving of a state funeral for Layton, don't for a second think that there isn't a PR aspect to it...given Layton's apparent popularity, to suggest anything otherwise would be political suicide
MrPotato / August 24, 2011 at 10:47 am
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Typical BlogTO potatoes...you a$$hats still don't understand graffiti...like come on...its been around since the 70's you potatoes...you still haven't figured it out? Exit through the gift shop, Banksy, and all other kinds of information is out there yet these potatoes keep making these stupid comments like they've solved the graffiti issue...yeah you sure told em!
auditorydamage replying to a comment from jd3545 / August 24, 2011 at 10:54 am
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It's possible a state funeral would be offered to a BQ Opposition leader, and it's also possible the offer would be rejected in favour of a Quebec state-esque funeral.

Frankly, I don't have the knee-jerk anti-separatist reaction a lot of people have. I have no problem with people deciding an existing relationship or political entity no longer works for them and choosing to organize their own system; adults can decide to change things without condemning the other parties in a split. As far as I'm concerned, that's a basic right of all humans, to decide how they wish to organize and who, if anyone, they wish to delegate authority to. My main concern is what kind of system they would organize for themselves, whether it would be an egalitarian one or otherwise, but that's academic until separatism gains support again, if ever. The BQ represented a large group of people in this system. Attacking people for daring to support a sovereigntist movement on the federal level did nothing to address their concerns or desires; heck, it probably reinforced the sense of exclusion and isolation from the rest of Canada that the BQ and PQ thrived upon.

The NDP was able to eat the BQ's lunch because it offered a set of policies and ideals that BQ supporters, burned out on the flagging chance for achieving sovereignty, could support within the existing system. Give people a reason to stay in an existing organization, and they'll stay. Isolate and ostracize them, and they will wish to leave. Learn from history, or repeat the same mistakes.
gadfly replying to a comment from Rob / August 24, 2011 at 11:04 am
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"Layton's apparent popularity....?" Where? Outside Toronto, who really gives a rat's a$$ about this man? I would never gloat over the passing of someone I vehemently disagreed with, but I sure as hell won't glorify it.

@dnr - sorry, bud, but your lack of maturity (and perspective) is showing. Thirty years ago, I loathed the Sun. Claire Hoy ranted against the gays and anything else he didn't like. The paper was so far in right field it wasn't even in the field. Then about 10 years ago, something weird started to happen. At first, I would have to use a gas mask and gloves to read the paper at work if someone left it laying around, then I found myself starting to agree with their editorials once in a while, then more and more. Intriguingly, I started to choke at the Star, then had to wear gloves to read it, then finally cancelled my subscription to that rag about 6 or 7 years ago.
Claire Hoy, who is a frequent guest on Michael Coren's TV show, has softened his position over the years - even has a few gay friends today. Michael Coren, who I rarely agree with, has a great TV show, which is well balanced with panel guests and deals with very important issues facing Canada today. At least he has guests who can debate the other side.
My guess is that the median age on this site is either 15, or many of the posters have not grown up yet. I would love to meet a few of the people who post here in about 10 or 15 years and see if they still hold the same opinions that they exhibit now.
Steve replying to a comment from gadfly / August 24, 2011 at 11:14 am
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grumble grumble

Have you seen my ear medicine?
LJ replying to a comment from Trevor / August 24, 2011 at 11:20 am
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Trevor/Working family, I don't think that Jeff is being a troll by stating that Jack Layton lived large on the public dime, Its true. I'm much more annoyed at the real trolls who contribute absolutely nothing to BlogTO on a daily basis - IE: TorontosArtistCommunity and the always classless and LOUD MrPotato
Jacob / August 24, 2011 at 11:26 am
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"Needless to say, not all York students are thrilled about the idea."

Are they ever?

York is a hive of knee-jerk lunacy, whichever end of the idealistic spectrum it lays on.
well replying to a comment from LJ / August 24, 2011 at 11:32 am
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And i am upset that harper goes to sporting events (stanley cup for example) and the like on our tax dollars and don't see people raising a stink about it? What is the difference? Seems like every politician lives large off our taxes, so what is new? All liberals, neo-cons, NDP, Bloc and green party do it.
mike replying to a comment from MrPotato / August 24, 2011 at 11:45 am
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Lol MrPotato "graffiti has been around since the 70s and you still haven't figured it out" maybe if you mean the 20, 070s BC. Spoken like a true teenage knowitall, he wants to say something has been around for forever so he says "the 70s" like it was that long ago. There's been graffiti since man picked up a stick of charcoal, and there's political graffiti scrawled on the walls of ancient roman ruins over 2000 years old.
mike replying to a comment from Rob / August 24, 2011 at 11:52 am
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I'm pretty sure that harpers supporters proved that Harper is politically invincible in the last election
Michelle replying to a comment from jeff / August 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm
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Jack Layton lived large? He lived on the cusp of Chinatown, in a row house, with his wife and her parents. Did they even own a car?
the lemur replying to a comment from gadfly / August 24, 2011 at 01:58 pm
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<i>Where? Outside Toronto, who really gives a rat's a$$ about this man?</i>

Well, Rick, maybe the people who voted NDP rather than Liberal in May? BTW, it's okay to write words like 'ass' here - you're not on the Globe site now.

<i>I would never gloat over the passing of someone I vehemently disagreed with, but I sure as hell won't glorify it</i>

And oddly enough, that's something Sue-Ann Levy understands is possible but Blatchford does not. It's possible to respect someone who disagree with about practically everything, and also possible to dislike someone and say so without doing a hatchet job on them when they're no longer around to defend themselves.


Fantomex replying to a comment from auditorydamage / August 26, 2011 at 01:53 am
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<b>Quebecor is trying really hard to be Canada's equivalent to News Corporation.</b>

Newsflash: Quebecor already <i>is</i> Canada's equivalent to News Corporation (or at least Fox News)
ffaefa replying to a comment from jeff / August 31, 2011 at 01:40 am
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I'd rather pay for a funeral than the tar sands, thank you very much.
Darlene / August 31, 2011 at 05:53 pm
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How about sending some needed dollars back into the communities on behalf of Jack. Let's do something worthwhile for once. It's the living who have to carry on in these poor economic times. Let's help our fellow man and the working poor !
scanner replying to a comment from Come On / August 31, 2011 at 06:46 pm
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@comeon: I believe you misspelled that word. It's not "Huge SUV", its "Huge A*s".

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