Eat & Drink
Will a new Starbucks on Ossington kill the street's vibe?
The stretch of Ossington between Dundas and Queen has that intangible indie/creative vibe that makes locals squeal and east-enders unreservedly smug. But whatever the effect of Ossington's lauded je ne sais quoi, there's only one word that could bring it all into jeopardy: Starbucks (ok, maybe two if throw the word "condo" in there, but more about that later).
Yes, Ossington is poised to receive its very own Starbucks; the clichéd community addendum that seems to say "there goes the neighbourhood" to those who call it home. Granted, this new Starbucks will be at the foot of the strip, situated at the base of a condo on Queen Street. Nevertheless, its presence will surely resonate up to Dundas and beyond. I can hear those Frappucino orders already.
But in terms of competition, it seems the cafes in the area aren't much concerned. I head to Ossington veteran I Deal Coffee, where my Starbucks questions are mostly met with shrugs. "We're catering to different clientele, I think," says the barista. "I don't think it will bring that much competition."
That sentiment is echoed by Scott at Crafted by Te Aro. "If anything," he says, "it will end up taking away from its own business." Indeed, there is a Starbucks already firmly planted at Queen and Dovercourt, so this new outpost will be but minutes away. Scott adds that he thinks some of the would-be disdain for the new Ossington Starbucks has been overshadowed by the condo project slated for the street. "In comparison," he says, "people don't seem to care much about the Starbucks."
Scott is referring to the new 109OZ condo project, which has certainly sparked its own "there goes the neighbourhood"-type discussion. The plan for the six-storey structure has already catalyzed community consultation meetings, petitions, and a resident association group called Smart Growth for Ossington. With that sort of movement, it is indeed easy to see how something like a little Starbucks might get overshadowed.
That said, some, including Dhani from Academy of Lions, are keeping a watchful eye on the progression. "Independent businesses are what makes Ossington great," he says. "The more we get away from that, the more we lose." But he adds that area residents, generally, are intent on indie shopping anyhow. "The neighbourhood decides with its dollars," he says. "I don't think we have too much to worry about."


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Great headline, thanks for the chuckle
Support a local privately-owned establishment instead, rather seeing profits going across the border.
Mark my words, Junction will be next.
What about he big hardware store? I can't buy PBR or some sexy fish tacos there. tear it down too.
All the complainers get over yourselves.
You can high five yourselves silly as you have the place all to yourselves.
One coffee shop won't "kill" any neighbourhood. If people in the area don't like it, they won't go. It's not like others will flock to Ossington now just to go to Starbucks and "ruin" everything. There are Starbucks all over.
The title of this article must be great for pageviews though...
Everyone knows there is no vibe on Ossington.
Going on about Ossington in Toronto is like saying, "oh no, we don't go to _that_ part of Scarborough. We only support the good part."
It's Toronto, aka the "good" part of Scarborough, or as the rest of the world knows it, "Canada, whatevs."
I wish Bloor and Lansdowne would hurry up and grow a Starbucks - and replace the CoffeeTimes.
Though can't complain really... Three great indie coffee shops, a few hipster patios and some galleries
"and so it begins"
(watch in 4 years... I will probably complain about the new Starbucks taking away my neighborhood's "charm")
I wake up and leave my home on a Sunday to find gifts of poutine containers and puke on my door step. I watch the neighbourhood CAMH out-patients get harassed by drunk yuppies that find it amusing to tease and ridicule people have mental health problems.
Sooooo......I'm moving. Peace out Ossington. I'll miss what you were :)
Ever notice in the "vibe" areas of town, nobody actually admits to being a hipster, while obviously attempting to be one? Urbanologist Richard Florida has referred to this phenomena as the "Hipster Conundrum"...
This is why no one wanted a Starbucks in Kensington.
HA HA HA
Starbucks didn't as much ruin the neighbourhood when they booted out a goth bar (Sanctuary) at Claremont and Queen--it just confirmed where Trinity Bellwoods was going. The same thing is happening on Ossington.
I don't know, man. Once Giant Tiger and the new Tim's opened up, it all changed.
We dont want the mega-hipsters infiltrating Leslieville.
Dont poke a sleeping bear.
Then the multiply like tight denim wearing rabbits.
I live I the junction as well...2010 this happened and all is still swell over here!
true hipsters dont have homes and so don't shop at home hardware. We have apartments or, in my case, shared multi-use live/work studios and we definitely don't shop at home hardware. I don't need custom kitchen cabinets in my workspace bro.
then, the establishment imposed the mcdonalds owned Pizza Libretto (look it up man, its all part of the hedgemony) - this ruined everything. now all the yuppy wannabes are up in my hood eating pizza and talking trash about DOP bull. Look it up bro, Italy is facist.
I am so out of Ossignton bro. I am moving to Allen + 401, the new hipster nirvana
at least you acknowledged how you'll feel once its gone.
Raising the property prices in Ossington will lead to the bland gentrification or, even worse, 905-ication and kill the area. But just as long as you can invest in your condo and carry on playing your property game, while contributing nothing artistically or socially to an area for fear that anything non-homogenous will lower your property prices and getting increasingly precious and shitty about the people who are contributing something valuable because they are "too noisy" "too scruffy looking" or "aren't property owners" who will exist in ever decreasing numbers (driven away by the now too-high rents) until the street is another inoffensive and horrendously average suburb everything is OK, right?
Ossington is just another area built up by locals and sold to those a-holes who are not. Like every "nabe" where one can "nosh" on "brekkie" and complain about the stinky ethnic foods of the locals. What a soulless city.
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And never miss a deal ever again! ;)
2014.
Be there.
Most of the complaining seems to be about non-locals (905ers, yuppies, etc.) coming to the neighbourhood. Why the hate for outsiders?
Really? Come on. I live in the Junction and I heard those same kind of complaints. Starbucks has been there now for 2 years - the community is fine.
I feel that everyone is in agreement that ossignton is now shit! Has been every since it got "cool" about 5 yrs ago! And what are you talking about 905 has been hanging out there every weekend since they got word it is the "it spot" once again...since about 5 friggin years ago!!!!
This is why it is good to change up the area once again, so that potentially it may be a good place to hang out/live in the future....probably not, but one can hope.
The Hipsters sure werent trying to fight progress when their indie bars, indie bands and indie patios were opening and keeping the area residences up at night.
Just because you dont like this particular business, it doenst mean anyone should care any less then you did when residences didnt like the business you were in favour for.
Its a Starbucks. Deal with it.
Starbucks, then did fair trade and organic. I'd like to know how many of these 'truly unique' people actually create 'truly unique' art or lifestyles. Keep trying T.O...we'll never be New York or London, but keep trying. You are not defined by the coffee you drink, give me a break?!
every city has so-called 'up and coming' neighbourhoods that constantly change. The new place to be is never the same for very long. You think Shoreditch and Hoxton have always been hipster locales in London? No.
And they destroy our infrastructure without paying a cent for it.
905ers are the scourge of the Earth.
Last I checked, they both pay near minimum wage as owners get rich. And if an indie coffee shop owner comes on here to cry poor, yer doing it wrong. At least Starbucks has the capital to not fold when a competitor moves in.
i live at greenwood and danforth. please send a starbucks here.
sincerely,
old and un-hip
It's a Starbucks opening in a neighbourhood with other chains already. If you don't like it, don't support it.
Don't take issue with a chain that is clean and well kept. Take issue with the hoards of 905ers and Lawrence Ave kids who come down each weekend and turn Ossington into Richmond St. That's more damaging.
I just think it's silly that you can see the other Starbucks from the front door of this one.