Eat & Drink
Can new restaurants survive in Liberty Village?
Origin Restaurant has enjoyed plenty of success on King East for the past couple of years, but it is now poised to expand over to the west, where a handful of restaurants of late just couldn't stay afloat.
Liberty Village has seen a curious number of restaurant closures over the past few months, wherein places such as The Liberty, Liberty Noodle, Chuck and Co. Cinquecento Trattoria, and Liberty Belle ended up closing their doors. The trouble with Liberty Village seems to be that of the nine to five; it sees an influx of professionals in the morning, many of whom leave after work in the early evening. Of the people who do live in the area, many are first-time homeowners who are tackling their first mortgages, and don't necessarily look to dine out several times a week or feel more comfortable at pubs like Brazen Head. Lack of parking and congestion only exacerbates the issue.
Nevertheless, there are restaurants that have managed to survive (and thrive) in Liberty Village, and Mildred's Temple Kitchen is just one such example. I chat with owner and chef Donna Dooher, who has watched her restaurant grow in Liberty Village since opening in 2008. "I think what we're seeing," Dooher begins when I ask her about the area's recent closures, "is the growing pains of a neighbourhood that is growing so fast."
"I think it's really important to do your homework to find out what product will be successful in that environment. It takes a bit of massaging, and we've made plenty of changes since first opening up a few years ago."
I ask Dooher about the nature of those changes and what she thinks it takes to run a successful restaurant in Liberty Village. "I don't know if there's really an answer to that," she replies. "Of course, people are looking for value, quality, and great service. But it's important to be mindful of what your competitors are offering. If you want to open casual, quick service — well, the Metro store offers a great takeout counter. On the other end, there are a lot of first-time homeowners in the area, and you have to ask if people from other areas of the city are going to drive here for fine dining."
As for the recent string of closures, Dooher thinks it amounts to nothing more than an unfortunate coincidence — an idea that is echoed by Lynn Clay of the Liberty Village BIA. "There's an ebb and flow that happens in any community," she says. "All of those places that have closed are being replaced by new restaurants that will be moving in. It's just coincidental."
Claudio Aprile, chef at Origin, is gearing up for his late spring Liberty Village opening. He isn't concerned about the area's recent restaurant closures, likely in part because he admits he hasn't really heard about them. "It's a fertile neighbourhood with a very affluent demographic," he says. "The menu is going to embrace the area." Aprile won't spill on what will make this Origin different from the others, but he does say it will be distinctly "Liberty Village."


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WIth that said, though, the reason why we don't eat in our hood is b/c these restaurants are lame. We would rather go on Queen W or Ossington--a place to truly be seen and admired by others. Liberty Village is not a place to party and live like hipsters. It's just a place to live.
liberty village has a highly industrialized feel to it and is more "work" based as opposed to friendly, inviting and relaxing. i go to liberty when i have errands - gym, grocery, lcbo. i see no reason to plan an outing to any bar or restaurant in the vicinity. in fact, i hardly notice them anyway due to the mechanic nature of the area. origin might have a shot though.... time will tell
"peter poutine, you sound incredibly intelligent and profound. you summarize a lot of what is wrong with toronto with your kind of mind set. unless you plan on dying soon, accumulating apathetic debt and being proud of it is baffling. but i guess you refer to yourself as a hipster, so go figure. however, will you still be able use that excuse when you're old and claiming bankruptcy? "
Joanna: Thank you very much for your compliment! Yes, I am "incredibly intelligent". By the sounds of it, you must still live with your parents. I don't know if you know this, but we're all racked up in debt. Please get up to speed with the facts. I'm just one to admit it. But, I guess, you're not. Go on, Joanna. Please continue to buy your designer clothes on credit, and keep pretending that you're richer than you actually are! :P
Getting to many of the businesses in the area (particularly when it is raining and muddy) is like trial by ordeal and involves zig-zagging around poorly planned condos and through poorly-lit parking lots.
I can spend 10 minutes on Queen or King and take my pick of dozens of restaurants. Why am I going to spending 30 minutes freezing (and possibly being run over) while ruining my shoes traipsing down series of alleys filled with dog droppings?
I began what is now a 27 year career in Liberty "Village". It was home and business to many photographers. Underground dj's, some of the very best and most memorable after hours parties... Wafer thin though gorgeous models, bug eyed make up artists, moody hairdressers marched onto and into the maze like "village". It's come a long way. So long and so far, and not at all compelling.
Sad for PetePoutine, actually.
Opening a business in liberty village is not a bad thing, not doing your home work or adapting to peoples needs is different. But like week said, the layout in liberty village is terrible. just go on map.google.com or just go down there and see the mess for your self.
There are minimal good quality restaurants but that will change. So will the community feel once most of the condos under construction are finished. At the end of it, it's a young urban community.
There's also two massive Green P parking lots in the area, so parking shouldn't be an issue.
Have to disagree with Leah, Chuck burgers were great!
You walk by people of different lifestyles every day. It has no effect on you, and you just walk by.
Why this place has a vendetta against condos, I'll never know.
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I've also tried to visit the area at different times of the day and every season of the year. I have to admit that the traffic flow is horrendous during the weekday business hours 9am till 5pm. But heck, I'd be at work anyhow so it doesn't really affect me. The only problem I have is the street parking outside the Liberty Market building...what the heck is that?! Is it supposed to be metered parking or are people just parking for free?! I wish they had built an underground parking to accommodate these cars that park on the streets all day. If there were no cars on the streets, it would help the traffic flow a little better. Or offer city parking permit for those living in the townhouses who owns more than one car and/or doesn't have a parking spot. I'm also not liking how people would park their cars in every nook and cranny in LV during CNE days and/or Toronto FC events in the summer.
The Liberty Market building is a nice place for small shops, but it lacks the exposure because the shops are hidden in that dark alleyway. Please do more promoting/marketing or risk closing down!
Food-wise, I was glad Liberty Noodle closed! Sorry, but slapping noodles and pieces of meat and veggies into a bowl with broth does not make it Asian-style noodles! Shame on you for trying to deceive non-Asians into thinking you're anything better than crap! Even instant noodles are better than the sh*t you served. Good riddance!
Chuck's Montreal burger was the best burger I've tasted...
I am not sure what went wrong, but it wasnt the food.
I suspect the owner had bad management skills or didn't market himself properly.
But the food had NOTHING to do with the closure.
Still salivating over the smoked meat in the Mtl burger, topped with cumin coleslaw on a soft ciabatta bun. Mmmmmmm.
Cities work way better when there is a mix of uses integrated into every street. It means people are around all day and night. Restaurants can therefore rely on both lunch and dinner crowds. This is generally not true for LV restaurants.
I know it was the Liberty Village BIA that decided that the old LV should not have any condo developments and understand they didn't want it's original character to be lost in the huge wave of new construction. But I think it was short sighted and bad planning.
In the new area the reverse is true - the developments could have been much more urban by integrating office/commercial and other uses into the new residential area.
I've heard that traffic flow is HORRIBLE during rush hour but I've also read that they're taking steps to remedy that.
I also like the food at Williams Landing, though find the service inconsistent.