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#CodeRedTO prepares to fight for a rational transit plan

Posted by Derek Flack / January 7, 2012

Code Red TOOne of the chief reasons that the Doug Ford-led plan to take control of the Port Lands redevelopment was ultimately voted down in council was the work of the quickly formed community activist group #CodeBlueTO. Composed of concerned citizens and urban experts, it rallied to inform both councillors and the city at large that Waterfront Toronto's plans for the area were both rational and viable, ultimately proving that Ferris wheels and monorails were less seductive than the mayor's brother might have thought.

Given the success of that campaign, which resulted in what many have argued was Rob Ford's most significant loss on council as mayor, a similar campaign, aptly titled #CodeRedTO, is being put together in an effort to secure "a rational, affordable, and achievable rapid transit strategy for Toronto." Currently at a preliminary stage of development, the group, which is headed by #CodeBlueTO organizer and transit planner Laurence Lui, is looking to shore up its precise mission statement via online feedback.

As to where it's headed, NOW's Ben Spurr put together a good article on #CodeRedTO's mandate and goals earlier this week:

"Code Red is still in its infancy, but will likely mimic Blue's tactics: social media conversations (under the hashtag #CodeRedTO) will bring together experts and interested parties, first online, then in public meetings. Meanwhile, a marketing-savvy education campaign and petition blitz will spread the word to the public and council.

Lui hopes Code Red, like his earlier effort, will be an umbrella organization, bringing together pro-Transit City groups like the Toronto Environmental Alliance, the Rocket Riders and the newly launched Save Transit City website."

The ability to bring together various interest groups proved a boon for #CodeBlueTO, and it may very well be effective in some capacity again. There's no doubt that the Fords will fight tooth and nail to preserve their vision of transit in this city, but depending on how Gordon Chong's February report to the executive committee on funding prospects for the Sheppard subway extension goes, there could be a huge opportunity to put pressure on city councillors to rethink the direction that transit planning has taken over the last year or so in Toronto.

Discussion

24 Comments

Greg / January 7, 2012 at 02:00 pm
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I wish them all the success in the world. This insanity has to stop.
Adam / January 7, 2012 at 02:22 pm
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awesome! i was wondering when people would start to organize to fight for better transit!
Shawn / January 7, 2012 at 05:46 pm
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I'm extremely pessimistic about their chances, but I really hope that some success is made. Transit is one of the most important municipal issues and it has been consistently fucked up by virtually every level of government. We need something much better than what we currently have.
Parker / January 7, 2012 at 06:55 pm
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Best of luck, CodeRedTO. Someone has to stop the bullying Ford brothers.
Mark / January 8, 2012 at 02:32 am
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Rational by who's judgement? The people who want to spend billions just to tie up traffic on the surface streets?
TryReading replying to a comment from Mark / January 8, 2012 at 11:06 am
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Obviously you are completely ignorant to the original Transit City plan which would have LRT's (not streetcars) running on RIGHT OF WAYS. But I guess reading is hard now isn't it?
Antony replying to a comment from Mark / January 8, 2012 at 11:56 am
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Mark, the plan was to build similar to the Queensway - except of course the trains would be LRTs not streetcars (3-cars, faster)

http://transit.toronto.on.ca/thumbnails/t_streetcar-4106-05.jpg

How does that tie up traffic on the Queensway?
Antony replying to a comment from Mark / January 8, 2012 at 11:57 am
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http://transit.toronto.on.ca/images/streetcar-4106-05.jpg

Better picture.
Jay / January 8, 2012 at 01:54 pm
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So the plan is for a comprehensive approach to transit but they are only going after Rob Ford. Great, another left-wing circle jerk. What about Provincial funding? I guess we give Premier Dad a pass because he forks out money to unions while bankrupting the province. Code Red ... Yawn!
Mr. Shadow replying to a comment from Mark / January 8, 2012 at 02:23 pm
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As usual, Mark, like gadfly you know nothing about the vital issues of this city except what you've heard listening to and reading neocon news sources. Please keep your trolling elsewhere.

As for Code Red, hear, hear! And I hope that they do succeed just like Code Blue did.

@Jay: What have the unions go to do with this, and why are you bringing them up? Unions are the backbone of a good workforce, and they help keep corporate power in check. Where do you get your info from?
Ajay replying to a comment from Jay / January 8, 2012 at 03:19 pm
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Ah look, another neocon wingnut! (Oops shadow beat me to it..)
Fresh_Start replying to a comment from Antony / January 8, 2012 at 03:25 pm
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If a Queensway-like ROW - nowhere as fast nor reliable as the Bloor-Danforth subway line is by comparison through that same swath of Toronto (Dundas West/Roncesvalles-Old Mill/Humber Loop) - is the best aspirants for a resuscitated Transfer Chitty plan can come up with as to why we should deprive Scarborough of two subway lines, one already fully paid for, which will transform commuter's travel times in that heavily neglected one-third of the City proper for generations to come; then you may as well just be GRATEFUL Toronto's to be receiving any transit infrastructure at all.

Toronto is getting at bare minumum almost 30 kms of new subways (TYSSE by 2015 + Eglinton-Crosstown by 2018-2022) within the next decade. That and even a modest extension of Sheppard Subway to Victoria Park and an infill stop at Willowdale is still better than all the surface, road median LRT schemes in the world!

Sometimes it is as though some people get off on being obstructionist just for the sake of it without even considering all the parameters of an issue. Tramsit City was a heavily flawed plan which ballooned in cost projections over the years: ADMIT IT and stop lying to yourselves!
Captain Awesome replying to a comment from Jay / January 8, 2012 at 03:53 pm
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"What about Provincial funding? I guess we give Premier Dad a pass because he forks out money to unions while bankrupting the province"

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The money is already there, sitting in a trust fund. Ford traded three moderately priced lines for one really expensive line, and this movement is to trade back to the three moderately priced lines.

Again, the money already exists. It's been sitting in a trust fund for half a decade.
Jay / January 8, 2012 at 03:59 pm
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@ Mr Shadow - I see you chose to ignore the main point of my post and only focus on what suits your perception. I asked why they are not going after the Provincial government? Why does Dalton get a pass? A true comprehensive approach to transit will take all levels of government. But Code Red only wants to focus on the Mayor because he's from the right.

There is no bigger group of elitests than the left in this city. Their sense of entitlement is astounding.
Captain Awesome replying to a comment from Fresh_Start / January 8, 2012 at 04:11 pm
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BD subway from Dundas West to Old Mill: 6 minutes
Queen and ROncesvalles to Humber Loop: 8 minutes.

That's hardly horribly slow.

At any rate, Scarborough is not getting "2 subways" except in planet Moonbeam.

In fact, in order to get that 3km of undergrounded Eglinton line, they gave up 5km of SRT extension. Scarborough is actually getting LESS rapid transit than under transit city.

Let's sum up the funded, guaranteed rapid transit in Scarborough:

Ford's plan:
3km of rapid transit (Scarborough portion, Eglinton).

Transit City:
5km of rapid transit (SRT extension)
3km of surface LRT (Scarborough portion, Eglinton)
10km of surface LRT (Scarborough portion, Sheppard).
Aaron replying to a comment from Jay / January 8, 2012 at 04:12 pm
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Jay, it is the provincial government that put up the money for transit city. They committed $8.2 billion for Eglinton, Sheppard, Finch, and the Scarborough RT replacement. Then Rob Ford blew the budget on putting Eglinton entirely underground, so there's no money left for improving transit on Finch and Sheppard. So that's why Ford is the target, because he's the one who screwed things up.
Fresh_Start replying to a comment from Aaron / January 8, 2012 at 04:59 pm
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Finch West wasn't a priority on any government's radar until Miller filled people's heads with delusions of grandeur. Look at the 2002 RTES Report. Ditto Jane, Lakeshore West, Kingston-Morningside and towards the boonies/exurbia of Sheppard/Meadowvale. This Priority Neighbourhood planning BS has no business being interwined into transit policymaking decisions where commuting patterns ought to dictate demand and need. There is nothing wrong with 36 Finch West other than the lack of limited-stop express routings like what's implemented along 39 Finch East. Articulated buses would be even better and is something the TTC brass could choose to look into considering Ford's musing about buying more buses right now.

This is the fundamental problem I have with Transfer Chitty advocates, they've blinded themselves from the facts and from considering any other mode of transit besides LRT. Sheppard must be completed as a subway ONLY because there's already a line in place there. That and because the proposed Sheppard East LRT was routed to go in a straight line far removed from the major destinations commuters through Scarborough actually wanted to go to.
Jeff Cooper / January 8, 2012 at 05:28 pm
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Queensway? There are about 15 reasons that what was proposed in Transit City is nothing like the Queensway Streetcar ROW. But some of you don't seem bright enough to understand it - so I will not waste my time. But here is an interesting thought for on the comparison. What is the history of The Queensway? - it was created in conjunction with the building of the Gardner Expressway - by blowing out huge portions of Parkdale - and taking out large areas of park and open space. Was Transit City planning on tearing out a swath of neighbourhoods and building a new road with a street car in the middle? The answer is no. (Don't get me wrong I like the Queensway Streetcar line - because it is in a location where it can go fast because it has very few conflicts with traffic)
Captain Awesome replying to a comment from Jeff Cooper / January 8, 2012 at 07:30 pm
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Was Transit City planning on tearing out a swath of neighbourhoods and building a new road with a street car in the middle?
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The Queensway is 110 feet wide. The Right-of-way on most suburban arterials is also about 110 feet. They don't need to "tear out a swath" - the space already exists to put it in.
the lemur replying to a comment from Fresh_Start / January 8, 2012 at 09:36 pm
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Maybe if the new stations on the TYSSE weren't so huge and so bizarrely, expensively overdesigned there'd be money to build several km of decent transit lines to serve the actual city of Toronto rather than giving it to Vaughan.
Kevo replying to a comment from Shawn / January 8, 2012 at 09:50 pm
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@Shawn - it's much more than a municipal problem - it's a massive regional problem. Really, the province needs to grow some balls and order the absorbsion of all of the GTA + Hamilton's transit systems into Metrolinx as well as the 400-series highways that pass through the GTA so that an arms-length government organization can fund and operate a coherent system that controls tolls for public transit and highways. In the meantime, we can only hope that a sane plan similar to Transit City is brought back to the table.
Scott / February 3, 2012 at 07:46 pm
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Funny how everyone jumps on Mark's comment thinking they are the only one's that could possibly know "What's really good for the city".

Not to shoot anyone down here, but how many of you live on St.clair near the stockyards? More importantly how many of you live along the eastern half of eglington and call that part of the city home?

The sheer notion that LRT's are a great idea along eglington is a crock.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/03/28/100m-st-clair-right-of-way-case-heads-to-court-next-week/

And no this article isn't the extent of my argument, just hopefully a valid enough point to shut the peanut gallery down. Queens Quay works for LRT/Streetcar because it is not handling major flow. Cars aren't going anywhere as much as everyone would like to see them disappear thats not reality. Commerce requires speedy logistics and uncontested roadways will always be critical to the pulse of a truly world class city with a flowing economy. St.clair west can handle its current LRT, but it has had many negative impacts that accompany the benefits of that system. Transpose the idea over to a higher volume artery such as the one that is Eglington, Kennedy to Laird, and you will end up gridlocking an already overcrowded area that is still expanding at a fairly good pace.

Simple Physics, X number of vehicles from the entire east end of the city only have a few options to get to the central/west/heart. All the metric tons of traffic have to go somewhere... stripping a few lanes off eglington isn't gonna improve anyones day, and may end up ruining hundreds (literally) of small and large businesses along the route, all because you posters felt you were the only ones with a clue.

There is a reason most major cities have a sweet subway system...
Dr. Shrinker replying to a comment from Scott / February 3, 2012 at 08:27 pm
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For the last time: LRT IS NOT STREETCARS!!!!!

Check this out (http://lrt.daxack.ca/) and THEN you, Jay, & whoever's still deluded can talk about this issue with certainty. Until then, please go away and let the adults continue the conversation.
Scott replying to a comment from Dr. Shrinker / February 3, 2012 at 09:05 pm
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LoL I lived in Calgary for 5 years and already get the concept you prick. Watch your tone if you have time in between patting yourself on the back as the clear winner of this discussion.

Ignorant, Rude, and yet a "Dr." ?

Blow me pal. You must have the time since clearly you won't mind the additional commute hours ripping out lanes on a major industrial road will add.

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