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A ride on the new TTC Rocket subway train
The TTC's new Toronto Rocket subway trains were in action on the Yonge-University-Spadina line this morning, and members of the media got a chance to take a ride from Davisville to Union and back again. Since we've already written a bit about these snazzy new trains, I was most interested in checking out how the Rocket would get around on the tracks.
Compared to a T1 train, one of the first things that you notice is the different noise the Toronto Rockets make. Although not quieter per se, as the train gets up to speed, the hum it makes is a bit lower and smoother. When asked the admittedly childlike question as to whether or not the Rockets go faster than their predecessors, TTC spokesperson Brad Ross smiles and tells me that "trains can only go so fast in the tunnels." Still, at an 88 Kp/h max speed, it won't even get a chance to test its mettle while in service (trains usually top out at 65 Kp/h between Lawrence and York Mills).
Really what these trains are all about is increased capacity, accessibility and safety. Of the many differences between the older T1 trains (introduced in 1995) and the Toronto Rockets, the newer models will have an eight to 10 per cent greater capacity. Most of that percentage comes from the increased floor space accommodated by the open gangways that link each of the six cars that compose the train (which I'm told is a design unique for North American subways at present) . It's tough to put a hard number on this, but the general consensus is that T1's held about 1100 passengers at capacity, so the Rockets will probably get 100-120 extra people on board.
When you get on one of these things, you'll swear that they must be wider than the old trains, but that obviously isn't the case (how would they fit within the existing platform and tunnel infrastructure?). Part of this illusion is created by the lack of stanchions to hold onto in the middle of the train. These have been replaced with ground-based guide strips designed to assist sight-restricted passengers. While this is admirable from an accessibility standpoint, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the train abruptly stops or starts when it's filled with passengers (and not a handful of media types). There are additional handles on the ceiling of the train, but I suspect that these Rockets might get a little smellier on hot days (with everyone's arms in the air), despite their new air conditioning units.
Nevertheless, the trains are obviously more spacious, and it makes sense that they'll run on the YUS line, which is the most travelled in the system (during the morning rush, roughly 30,000 passengers go through Bloor Station an hour). When the TTC implements a new computerized signaling system on the line, the trains will also be able to run closer together, which will ease crowding.
At present, there are only a few of the Toronto Rockets on TTC property, but the contract with Bombardier now calls for a total of 70 to enter the system between now and 2013 at an approximate cost of a billion bucks. The Rockets are due to be put into regular service in a few weeks. In the meantime, here's some more photos and a rundown of some of the other features.
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Check out the new station announcements and how the open gangway handles bumpy track.
- There are 24 closed-circuit cameras (four per car) mounted on the ceiling of each train (these aren't constantly monitored, but will be in the event that a passenger activates one of the 36 alarm intercoms
- Electronic route maps indicate the direction in which the train is travelling and the next station where it'll arrive
- The interior surfaces of the train are coated with Bombardier's Antimicrobial Surface Treatment Program, which reduces the spread of the flu and other viruses
- There are 18 video screens (three per car), which are used to provide information on the use of the emergency intercom, the location of alarm devices, and entry and exit practices
- Each car has two areas at either end where seats fold down to accommodate for wheelchairs, scooters and other mobility devices (bicycles and strollers could also work here). These areas are indicated on the exterior of the train with a blue light
- The doorways in the new car are much wider, which should make boarding and exiting much more efficient
- There are evacuation ramps and the front and rear of the train
Photos by Tom Ryaboi


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It'll be mere weeks before these things look like crap anyways.
Toronto really IS the Screwface Capital.
Yay to the TTC for finally making this a reality.
All in all, I'm happy about what I'm seeing.
move closer to where you work, idiot
Pretty sure that's not the case. While my memory isn't 100%, I'm pretty sure I've been on several open ones in Europe. A quick bit of youtubing seems to confirm this.
- Hope the deafening noise at station stops will be gone.
- Hope announcements of next station will include which side of doors will open, e.g. "The next station is Bay. Doors will open on the left." (This should be implemented in current trains, too.)
I was in Delhi in India in 2007 and they've had features exactly like open gangways for a while.
The only complaint I have is that the old trains smell horrible when you first get on them, especially when the A/C is on. They also look kinda drab. So these new ones will be a nice addition, and they're obviously not a waste of money because we can only use 30 year old trains for so long anyway.
Standing on the wrong side <i>is</i> a big deal at busy times if you are standing near the wrong door because of the inflow of people through the opposite door.
"Geez. What a waste of money. Put the money into increasing and lengthening service times instead.
It'll be mere weeks before these things look like crap anyways."
Yeah who cares about having something clean for once. Lets all just live like dirty peasants for ever and ever and ever...
Is that really necessary?
You do not have to be a Rhodes Scholar to figure out which doors are going to open once you arrive at a station.
Moreover, you do not need to be The Flash to move to the opposite doors, even during rush hour, in order to get off in time. Many times I have been stuck at the wrong doors on packed trains, yet I managed to get off in time.
There's things to hang onto above everyone's head. It's a shit shwo now when it's crowded, but that ahs nothign to do with the trains and everythign to do with people being dumb.
As for handicap people, when is the last time you saw anyone not make way for a handicap person so they could get off the train?
Moreover, most handicap do not even use the train. They use things like Wheel-Trans.
Lawerence West -- LEFT (centre platform)
Glencairn -- LEFT (centre platform)
Eglinton West -- RIGHT
St. Clair West -- RIGHT
Dupont -- RIGHT
Spadina -- RIGHT
St. George -- LEFT (centre platform)
Museum -- LEFT (centre platform)
Queens Park -- LEFT (centre platform)
St. Patrick -- LEFT (centre platform)
Osgoode -- LEFT (centre platform)
St. Andrew -- LEFT (centre platform)
Union -- LEFT (centre platform)
I usually take the TTC once or twice a month. And please, don't bring up tourists, it's a cop out in an argument, sure it's be nice for them.. but these trains are mostly for Torontonians.
It just makes a more pleasant ride for all. What's the cost? Next to nothing.
I just hope they change the font on the LED train, it isn't very legible.
Fact is, plenty of people, who can clearly see through the WINDOWS where the platform is, look absolutely shocked when the doors in front of them don't open. Seriously, how do you people even get dressed in the morning without a voiceover giving you instructions? If this is a serious complaint for you, maybe you'd be better served on Wheel Trans instead.
Without an announcement, people will know as the train enters the station. If you are on the wrong side of a packed train, you will need to fight your way to the other side within a few short seconds. Unpleasant for you. Unpleasant for others in your way.
An advanced announcement costs next to nothing. Wouldn't bother people who can memorize where all the stations' platforms are. Wouldn't bother people who don't need it.
*New trains arrive*
"What was wrong with the old trains?"
For people questioning the value of buying new trains, these are replacing trains built in the 70s and 80s (the ones on Bloor-Danforth), and as the article says they increase the capacity of the Yonge line by 10% immediately, and will allow for more trains on the line once the signaling upgrades are complete.
Anyone here saying we don't need this feature has never been on the subway in rush hour. We seriously do.
I've heard quite a few heated words being hurled at over-eager passengers trying to inch their way to the doors before they open. When there are people flanking either side of you and more people pressed against your back, there is no where to move.
The reason this is common on major transit systems is that big international cities have lots of visitors and tourists who aren't familiar with the subway. Hence door-opening announcements, as well as well-designed signs and maps.
The announcements also help locals in big cities – like Toronto – when they're riding the subway to a neighbourhood they're not familiar with.
And announcing the door side also costs nothing!
So why are people arguing against it here – to highlight that they personally don't need the announcement? I don't think that's the point.
Check your grammer.
Thanks for the laugh.
This is old news in Asia. These trains existed over 6 years ago in HK. I would imagine it would be the same in Europe.
What's that?
You walk slower than a turtle?
If that is the case, you probably do not ride trains in the first place because you are not quick enough to board a train before the doors close.
I think people would hear "left" and instinctively go left regardless of the direction they are facing.
Did you really just compare public transit development to Nazi Germany?
Fall back son.
if the lack of center poles and the appearance of gangways is going to upset some people SO much, I wager they haven't the tackle to cope with life as a whole, never mind transit. Do us a favor and don't ever go anywhere.
Somehow they manage to cope. Its not the end of the universe. And hey, more room. Since most of the crush seems to be downtown where its SRO anyway, you with the longer commutes will still have seats, i'm sure.
And i'm short, but y'know, I manage to cope.
The TTC isn't the worst thing in the world. People sure do love to whine and moan.
Just because one place does something a certain way it does not mean that we should follow suit.
The last time I was in London, England they did not do that and, oddly enough, I was able to suss out which door I was supposed to exit from.
What's that? What about handicap people?
Well, no handicap person with a functioning brain would ever take the TTC during rush hour. That's like me (a black male) going to a place that is supposed to have a clan rally. Yeah, I should be able to go wherever I want but, I have a brain and realize that some places are not ideal.
If you cannot even figure out which side to get off without an announcement, why do you even deserve to be able to vote?
Just what exactly is, "In a really packed train people with normal mobility often almost don't get to the right side in time regardless", supposed to mean?
Does that not suggest that some people miss stops?
If it does not, then why is there a need to notify people which doors are going to open?
Notifying people through announcements is only necessary for div kids or the truly lazy (and it will not even matter for the lazy since they are too busy excelling at being lazy).
You could say, since it costs nothing and some people like it and it doesn't harm me, let it be done. If it helps visitors to our cities have a more pleasant time, why not.
Or you could say, since I don't need it, I don't want others to have it either, even if it costs nothing to me.
I just stated that you are an absolute muppet if you need this.
By the way, while we are at it, why don't we have the city gave us all wake up calls and tell us which side of the street to walk on since we clearly lack the mental faculties to be able to do that on our own.
Sorry for expecting a basic level of intelligence from the citizens of this fine city.
Who cares how the train looks like when they're never on time or when we're trapped in the tunnel every morning for 10 minutes, or when there's an announcement on trains being delayed every day.
What really needs to happen is for people to stay away from the doors (not going to happen). Failing that, knowing which door will open means you can get ready before the station is even in sight.
Same as getting on near one end of the train or the other to be near a particular exit at your stop. As lazy and distracted as I am, I can manage that.
In any case, there won't be announcements, just LED arrows pointing to the side, which you can safely ignore.
The more responses I read however, the more I realized this whole sentiment speaks to problems with Toronto as a whole.
Every single day on this site I read about people complaining about Rob Ford. If people in this city struggle with something as simple as determining which side of the train to get off, how can they possibly have the energy to vote or actually learn about issues during an election?
People want this city to be better. Well, making this city better starts with each one of us and, if you are struggling with an issue like this, I truly worry about the future of Toronto.
Are there less seats though? Hmmm..
To those whining about how the money should have gone to increasing service: the new trains hold more people and can run more often, meaning a shorter wait for the next train and it being more likely you'll fit in the one that comes. How is that *not* increasing service?
To those complaining that the YUS line gets all the good stuff and we on the BD line are left to wallow... they're taking the current "better than ours" trains off of the YUS line and putting them on the BD line when they introduce the new trains. It makes sense, as the YUS line has more people using it. I doubt very much that the TTC will stick us with those crappy orange-seat trains and throw the good ones on the YUS line out.
For those complaining about the lack of poles... am I the only one who sees them attached to the seats? Perhaps we could have a new rule of thumb for the TTC (to add to "walk left, stand right") and it could be "tall people down the middle, short people on the sides".
As for announcing the side of the train the platform will be on... well, it's been said that the signs actually do this, so it seems like a non-issue.
I'm not surprised that people want this, though... it's my experience when taking the subway that hardly anyone is paying attention to anything.
When I first moved to Toronto I had no trouble figuring out which side the platform would be on. When it was busy, I watched to see where other people were headed. When it wasn't busy, I stood in the middle and waited. Riding the train near the front also gives you extra time. This isn't rocket science...
The only thing I have against adding this information to the announcements is that it likely won't be free as people seem to be assuming, and it only encourages people to continue to navigate this city in a daze, which in my opinion is a detriment.
The centre poles are more of a pain in the ass than anything else, they block movement and people frequently lean on them, preventing others form holding on.
One thing I'm going to do on these trains is when I'm drunk is I'm going to stand in the area that joins two cars so that I can be tossed around on bumps :P
@Jamal - all of the oldest trains (ie. not T1s) I believe are going to be retired once the Rockets go into full service.
And I'm going to throw up (on the subway) if I hear another person comparing the TTC to ForeignCityOfYourChoiceHere. Yeah, we all know the TTC is stuck in the past captain obvious.
And for all those complaining about no love for the BD line: All the old Hawker cars running on the BD and YUS will be completely replaced. All those cars you ride with: no AC, orange seats, yellow doors or orange doors will all be canned in the next few years. Gone. The entire system will be run with the still fairly modern T1's and the Toronto Rockets. Fact of the matter is the YUS has more capacity issues than the BD, which combined with future implementation of an advanced signal system explains why the new trains will run on that line exclusively.
I heard that in London they're installing puke receptacles on the tube so that if you're feeling nauseous you don't have to make a mess all over the floor. Perhaps the TTC could use those too!
They're also slightly bigger, and have room for a few arrows pointing to what door will open at the next stop.
Apparently this is a source of outrage. We don't want those arrows there, no sir.
If you listen to the next stop announcements in the video, it doesn't say left or right side, the only difference is it refers to stations that intersect with other lines as interchange stations. The door side is indicated by a few >>>> symbols at the bottom.
And my God, you can really tell who rides the TTC everyday and who doesn't. The newer T1 cars have no centre poles and they've been around SINCE 1996! Amazingly, nobody has died due to this. The next time you ride the TTC I think some of you may be astonished to discover that the Subways are no longer painted red.
meanwhile in Calgary....
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110527/CGY_airport_deal_110527/20110527/?hub=CalgaryHome
So what, extra help from the announcer, and that's a problem because??? All improvements are to increase efficieny, even if by 2 seconds.
I'm sure tourists would love to know which side to get off at.
And no centre poles? The current T1 trains don't have them either!
And why are so many people not focusing on the good?
Anti-microbial handles, info screens, informative subway maps, faster trains, more space, wider doors?
Come on! Give it a rest already.
someone needs to tell TTC to fix the design of their seats!! get rid of the red velvet! just make the seats all steel! in about 2 weeks, those red velvet seats are gonna look like complete garbage. if you want these things to last long, you gotta make it easy to clean. dumbasses.
and get rid of the awkward 4 seaters that stick out....
Subways are depressing.
And Sean is right-if you can't tell which side of the train you're supposed to get off at (or figure out what is north, south, east or west on a subway) then you've got problems functioning as a human being, and need to look into the reason why. That said, although I find it a little bit troubling and with some reservations, I support the features on the new trains, want to ride them, and wish that people would stop griping about the TTC generally.
@TTC; obviously you've not heard that the older ones that break down are being replaced with new ones, or will be?
and it is still better than this train now.
ESPECIALLY the ticketing system. TTC really needs to fix that!!
The TTC is so shameful! After all these years, all they could do was upgrade to some low tech trains that would have been new a decade ago. Hong Kong has had more advanced subways than this for a decade or more and we're still using these stupid tokens here! Half the time that you go to a subway turnstile, there is nobody even working there and they put up a sign and expect you to be honest and pay (most of us canadians are stupid and complacent enough to just go with it too!)... Is this the TTC's new strategy of automated turnstiles?
They argue that privatization is not the answer, yet I've ridden the TTC everyday for nearly 2 decades, and NOTHING has improved, the only thing that goes up is the fares. The existence of the union allows ttc workers to be over payed and lazy. This is not true for every worker, but it is quite clear that the TTC has quite low standards for their employees. Is there a petition to privatize the ttc that I can sign? because it is 2011, and as a lifelong Toronto citizen, I am ashamed of our public transit system.
TTC= THE WORST WAY
When I was a child, I used to think that subways were the bomb (so much so that when my family made a a trip to Montreal in the 1970's, I insisted on us taking a ride on the subway just to see what it was like, even though we had a station wagon [we'd driven there])! I also used to wonder what a subway would be like on Sheppard, and what one would be like under Don Mills, and also down Victoria Park. But then I grew up, became a man, did some research, and figured out that a subway down either of these streets was just a stupid idea and would fail because of the low density of the streets they would be built under. I also realized what Gord Perks had said in a article he did for Eye Weekly a few years back; that the subway is nothing but troglodyte transit-a system where one goes down into the earth and then rides a train down a cave until you get to your destination, and also a good way of reinforcing the automobile as the only good form of transport by keeping public transit out of sight and out of mind: exactly what most car-loving suburbanites and the stupid neocon idiots that they vote in all of the time love to see happen.
I think that as a city looking towards the future, we need to kill the subway once and for all, and fully embrace light rail instead of the mostly underground heavy rail-if we need a form of heavy rail that bad, we can always build monorails instead, since they are above ground and allow you to see the city and be a part of it rather than be cut off from the city and not know it. The DRL could be built as a monorail, or as a LRT line on it's own right of way, and people would get a better form of transit that would allow them to see where they are going, and to help them get off at their destination better (there would still have to be stop announcements, though.)
Building either of these types of forward-looking (and more advanced) public transit would be better than relying on a form of public transit that requires billions of dollars in construction and maintenance costs, cuts people off from the environment, requires having a book and music player on oneself to pass the time, and that also requires that people be told how to get off and in what direction (BTW, IF the TTC and the city do have to build a DRL, would it be possible to build it just as deep as the Montreal subway is built, so that all of the problems associated with subway building in Toronto-namely water damage to the stations and having to expropriate land to build emergency exits-not happen?)
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"the open gangways that link each of the six cars that compose the train (which I'm told is a design unique to North American subways)
Pretty sure that's not the case. While my memory isn't 100%, I'm pretty sure I've been on several open ones in Europe. A quick bit of youtubing seems to confirm this."
UNIQUE TO NORTH AMERICA!!!