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Peaceful protesters demand resignation of Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair

Posted by Tomasz Bugajski / June 29, 2010

G20 protest MondayMonday's G20 Jail Solidarity Rally was a strange experience after the wild and chaotic events of the weekend. Not only was the message unified, but the police were very friendly. After covering nearly all of the protests of the last week, I've become used to angry tense cops who are suspicious of everybody. On Monday, they joked around with protesters smiled and seemed calmer than usual.

G20 protest police brutalityThe protest was about the detention of nearly a thousand demonstrators during the G20, the treatment they received and the perceived use of excessive force by the police. Being a day after the summit, it was tough to know what the turn out would be like. But, when it began at 5:30 p.m., there was a huge crowd outside police headquarters.

(This all came before Blair came out today and admitted that there never was a five-metre rule permitting cops to stop and search individuals who came too close to the G20 security perimeter.)

The march moved west on College, south on University, east on Queen, and the stopped at City Hall.

G20 Protest police agressionThe crowd demanded that Bill Blair resign and featured a number of speeches to the crowd, including an address from John Clarke of the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty, spoke to the crowd. He attacked the Toronto police and the treatment of peaceful protesters on Saturday and Sunday..

The crowd then made its way back onto Queen and headed north on University until it hit Queen's Park. After congregating for about half an hour, everyone started dispersing. There were no incidents of violence or detentions, thankfully.

Isn't this what peaceful protest is supposed to look like? In a way, we got the protest we wanted on Saturday. And on Sunday. Too bad it happened after the world leaders had already left Toronto.

More photos and a selection of tweets from those at the protest below:

@TabathaSouthey
Cops pleasing and thank-youing people on to the sidewalk. They move. Welcome back to Toronto.

@boyreporter
Kids dancing, police smiling, marchers buying hot dogs... This is what a protest looks like? #g20

@goldsbie
This is the most impressive cross-section of the city's artists, musicians, academics, activists, and journalists I've ever seen.

@AdamSchwabe
Smiling genuinely for the first time in a few days. Young Toronto growing up. Your move now, @mayormiller #g20

@shawnmicallef
With the absence of answers and leadership these citizens take to the streets and cheer on canadian values http://twitpic.com/20t950

@nowtoronto
Start contrast to Saturdays pass by us consulate. No riot gear. No gun toting RCMP beefcakes this time.

@boyreporter
Headed back up university. Best sign seen at protest... "$1B on security and all I got was this lousy fracture." #g20

@modernmod
To the owner of the black Porsche 911 Turbo parked out front of St. Michael's hospital: it's all good.

bill blair resignation

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Discussion

71 Comments

ramanan / June 29, 2010 at 03:01 pm
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Why would we ask the first good police chief we've had in something like a billion years to resign? I was disappointed in how the police were deployed and acted over the weekend, but i'm not sure getting rid of one of the most progressive police chiefs the city has ever had is the way to improve things.

Do people remember Fantino?
tim / June 29, 2010 at 03:07 pm
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To all those crying about the treatment they received from the police - get a life! Every single one of you who were hit, arrested, or contained knew exactly what you were getting into when you shut your front door behind you and headed downtown.

And if you hate the police so much, next time you get mugged, robbed, threatened, etc., I implore you not to call them to come help.....
Beefcake / June 29, 2010 at 03:13 pm
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Backseat tim, I'd like to see you sing that tune of broad generalization only after you get punched in the face and then detained. Stay safe behind your monitor.
TO Beater replying to a comment from tim / June 29, 2010 at 03:15 pm
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you're a dork.
J / June 29, 2010 at 03:17 pm
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ramanan is correct. Chief Blair's emphasis on community policing radically shifted the previous administration's aggressive approach. He deserves some credit.

The real question is: which police force was the worst offender? the OPP? the Mounties? Barrie Police? I'd hope logs of some sort were kept on who was where, at what times. That is step 1.
David / June 29, 2010 at 03:21 pm
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He needs to go and go fast... when the Law believe it is above the law he just needs to go... what a fcuking embarrassment... and the taxpayers are suppose to get it up the a$$ paying for this kind of sh!t...

He smiled when he said it! He needs to go!
MildredViolence / June 29, 2010 at 03:24 pm
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We need to organize a LifeAid telethon to try and get lives for all the "protesters". Or at the very least collect some tissues for them to cry into.
Ryan L. / June 29, 2010 at 03:25 pm
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reposted from morning brew:

Allegations of sexual assault are a very serious thing.

And unfortunately, when it comes to allegations of sexual assault on police officers (or other authority figures) almost every single accusation turns out to be false or grossly exaggerated.

When working in retail if someone was ever caught shoplifting and brought into the security office there was a non-negotionable policy that there was never to be just one person in that room with the shoplifter at any time.

They found that if someone was left alone with the shoplifter they often would end up accusing the loss prevention officer of sexual assault (I'm talking significant chances, like 1 in 4).

It's quite disturbing and completely disrespectful of people who are actual victims of sexual assault.

I don't know why they do it, I'm sure there must be a psychological reason behind it. Perhaps after being detained and humiliated from being arrested it is their way to try and regain control of the situation. Perhaps it could also be their way of trying to invalidate whatever they happened to be arrested for. Retribution maybe?

Anyways, I would take these allegations as a grain of salt until investigations reveal more about what happened. I'm betting that despite the numbers accusations of sexual assault, you'll find few or none end up going through as official complaints.
tim replying to a comment from Beefcake / June 29, 2010 at 03:44 pm
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You're right, Beefcake, I would be behind the monitor (of a tv or computer) watching idiots running and walking down the road protesting. I wouldn't put myself in the situation to get punched in the face - there are other ways of protesting, right ways of protesting. Smashing shit, shutting down streets, TTC, spray painting, etc. don't do a damn thing. Why would people head downtown on Sunday after knowing what happened on Saturday evening??

I don't like hearing $1.2 billion was spent on the damn thing, and I don't like the Harper government, but protesting in the street isn't/wasn't going to do a damn thing to change it...
d / June 29, 2010 at 03:58 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-6cnGkp3Y&;feature=youtu.be
wing / June 29, 2010 at 04:01 pm
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The police were still suspicious, if only before the protest. I was stopped, asked for ID, searched, and told to leave for just wearing black clothes and having a backpack.
Jeremy replying to a comment from tim / June 29, 2010 at 04:30 pm
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@Tim - Shut up they are fighting for our freedom, and if you knew better you would be to. If i had a way to get to the other side of the country, i would be there protesting with them. 800 ILLEGAL ARRESTS! notice how they can pass bills without us knowing untill its to late? well that what distractions are for, they make us think one thing get it all media hyped and then go and do somthing sneaky behind our backs that will confiscate our freedom. Everyone in canada thinks we are free, well you are not aS free as they would make you think. ever wonder WHY you need a drivers license?

Have you ever read the "Motor Vehicle Act" ?? Probably not.
so how do you know we require a "DRIVERS" license to TRAVEL
I am not "driving" i am "TRAVELING"

AND THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
Jimmy # 2 / June 29, 2010 at 04:38 pm
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ha ha look at the clueless 16 year old dbag in the first photo

LJ replying to a comment from Ryan L. / June 29, 2010 at 04:42 pm
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well said RYAN L.
Joe P replying to a comment from Jeremy / June 29, 2010 at 04:51 pm
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Fighting for our freedom? I don't even know how to respond to that. Do you watch the news? Do you see what's going on in the Middle East? In North Korea? Thailand? Do yourself a favour and look to these places before you go crying about our "freedom" -- we live in Canada, a totally free country. The fact that these people have the RIGHT to protest police shows you the kind of freedom that we have in this city and country.

Granted the events of this weekend were unjust and handled poorly; however if you chose to go downtown and "protest" or to cause shit, you deserve what came to you. The police were going to treat those idiots that way, it was so blinding obvious. I know people who went and TRULY protested PEACEFULLY, who said they weren't harmed and the police respected their space. How the hell can you justify people being aggressive and destructive like the way some people were this weekend and expect the police to just roll over. You've got to be kidding me!

I heard some idiot say "THE WORLD DOESN'T NEED POLICE, WE CAN POLICE OURSELVES" -- Yeah right, so when the serial killers, murders, rapists, thieves are roaming the streets with deadly weapons and people start to hide with tail between their legs people will complain that we don't have anyone to bring anyone to bring them to justice.
LMIH / June 29, 2010 at 05:16 pm
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The problem over the weekend wasn't the police, the police chief, or the protestors...it was simply the delinquents dressed in black who were only there to cause trouble.

Thanks to this small portion of people the police had no other action on Sunday than to crack down on everything. This was their job and the public was warned that riot tactics would be used if needed. The innocent people standing near the readied riot cops and Black Bloc'ers should have used some common sense and just stayed away. What did you think would happen? Black Bloc tactics are to cause trouble then disperse back into the public...this means that if trouble was brewing, police had to round up everyone at the scene to make sure the vandals didn't slip through and cause trouble in another area.

It was all ridiculous, but it wasn't police brutality or rights infringement. People should have realized that standing around a burning police car with riot police closing in might not be the best idea. Next time move and stop creating a bigger scene.
Joe P replying to a comment from LMIH / June 29, 2010 at 05:17 pm
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Leslie Hobson / June 29, 2010 at 05:33 pm
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If you are really interested in protesting here's a tip for you. It's called VOTING.
DSE / June 29, 2010 at 05:50 pm
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interesting news video on the ramifications of the protests/arrests...

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&;task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5331
Eric / June 29, 2010 at 06:46 pm
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I can't believe all these crybabies whining about jail conditions after they went out looking for a fight. What the hell do you think jail is supposed to be like, all leather couches and foie gras. You call yourselves protesters. If you can't take the heat, stay home. losers
Mike / June 29, 2010 at 07:44 pm
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I understand now why visible minorities never trust the Toronto Police. After this weekend I don't either. White Male-40
MikVik / June 29, 2010 at 07:44 pm
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The bigger question would be why did Stephen Harper insist on having this summit in a densly populated area? Calgary hosted the G8 at a cost of $300 million dollars and was held in Kananaskis, 45 minutes outside of the city. This summit was held without incident and without disruption and damage to local businesses and the lives of residents. I am sorry for the residents of Toronto for having this fiasco hosted in the middle of their city at great cost to everyone. What arrogance Stephen Harper displays to Canadians. Hold these summits at obscure places that will not threaten the cities and lives of the residents. Or, better still, don't hold them at all as the track record from these summits is laughable - there is no accountability to actually fulfill the promises made! Very disappointed in this lack of leadership.
Mark replying to a comment from Leslie Hobson / June 29, 2010 at 07:55 pm
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You're an idiot Leslie. If it wasn't for the women's groups PROTESTING in the 1800's and 1900's you wouldn't have the right to vote. From the Dominion Women's Enfranchisement Association and the Canadian Women's Suffrage Association came your right to vote. They protested and forced the powers of the time to alter the status quo. Remember... police simply keep the status quo - the people change history. Oh Yeah - You're WELCOME.
GI Poo / June 29, 2010 at 07:58 pm
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Bill Blair isn't to blame, he's just another instrument of the state. Just because he doesn't know that "Metro Toronto" doesn't exist anymore, as shown by his comment on this page isn't a reason to get rid of him.

It's Harper's Fault.
Hunter / June 29, 2010 at 08:27 pm
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Bill Blair for Mayor. Landslide victory.
James / June 29, 2010 at 08:55 pm
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I support the police in this and I'm normally not a fan of the police. I just hope some rioters get some serious jail time.
DL / June 29, 2010 at 09:41 pm
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These are some really authoritarian comments for very Liberal Toronto. Do you ALL really live in Toronto?
Max replying to a comment from MikVik / June 29, 2010 at 09:47 pm
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I'm personally convinced that Harper had the G20 in Toronto because he's a d-bag who wanted to get back at us for some imaginary thing we did.

I'm upset at all parties involved - protesters who didn't think (who cares if you have to show ID? There are people smashing businesses to bits), rioters who showed up to be a-holes and the federal gov't for bringing the whole thing DOWNTOWN in the first place (that's clearly a ploy).

My husband and I both work hourly jobs. He missed work on Sunday because his work place was closed due to vandalism. On Sunday, when I went to work a block away from Queen & Spadina and he stayed at home and lost wages I was happy to see anyone who even looked like they were causing trouble or being all cry-baby over showing ID arrested. You should've stayed home if you didn't want "Police Brutality."
The police are just regular people in Riot gear who are scared shitless of having to stand on the front line. Of course the adrenaline runs high on both sides and scary things happen.
Fran / June 29, 2010 at 09:57 pm
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(@DL I'd say 5% of them live in Toronto.)

I don't care if Chief Blair has been "progressive" - he needs to resign. He has been caught in a series of lies and can no longer be trusted. A lying police chief does not make for an effective police chief. I think it's ridiculous that many of you actually believe that ALL of the people who were arrested deserved it b/c they were protesters asking for trouble. That is truly moronic. Even the mainstream media sources I'm sure most of you subscribe to have revealed that many people were NOT active protesters, and even those that were were simply exercising their right to demonstrate and were doing so peacefully. It must be nice living in your bubble. Don't be afraid to pull back the curtains once in awhile and try to see the world through a less apathetic lense.



James / June 29, 2010 at 10:08 pm
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If he doesn't get fired it's going to be a sad day in toronto when police become the judge, jury and executioner. "hey you're black go to jail"
fiveteamer replying to a comment from DL / June 29, 2010 at 10:14 pm
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Does Newmarket count?
Sam / June 29, 2010 at 11:05 pm
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I've started a facebook group calling for Blair's resignation. Just search for "Fire the Toronto Police Chief" or go to http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=133709326649313
Kim / June 29, 2010 at 11:08 pm
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Enjoy your protest, idiots. Anyone know where the "Give the Chief a Raise" shindig is at?
RahAbasd / June 29, 2010 at 11:44 pm
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Passive aggresive yuppie children get mad when they find out jail is not a nice place.

Who cares.

Some sheltered idiot found out that antagonizing cops during a riot doesn't usually end well. omg we need a provincial inquest into this!

Police State! Police State! The cop broke my two hundred dollar camera after I shoved it in his face! You all saw it!

I've lived in Toronto all my life, and it, like any other big city, has a large contingent of self righteous pampered obtuse idiots who haven't had enough contact with reality to know just how full of shit they are.

Yes the police probably over reacted once in a while, but it doesn't compare to the cavalcade of bullshit from these people who stuck around after things got out of control.

As soon as a cop car went up in flame, I went home. The legions of goofy fucking children however, kept the struggle alive by playing passive aggresive games with cops.

Because that's what protesting is about, yelling at cops. Protesting is such a joke now, people have no idea what they're doing. Infantile, self-indulgent, and in the end pointless.

Grow up, the police deserve credit. Nobody got killed. Mealy mouthed university students had to eat cheese sandwiches and pee in front of other people in the make shift jail, cry me a river.
Jason replying to a comment from tim / June 30, 2010 at 12:05 am
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QUOTED from tim / JUNE 29, 2010 AT 3:07 PM

"To all those crying about the treatment they received from the police - get a life! Every single one of you who were hit, arrested, or contained knew exactly what you were getting into when you shut your front door behind you and headed downtown.

And if you hate the police so much, next time you get mugged, robbed, threatened, etc., I implore you not to call them to come help....."

Tim,

You are missing the point of a Canadian's right to protest.

Every citizen of this country has the right to assemble and have their voice heard without being brutalized, harassed or physically threatened. This was not the case over the weekend as many people were (as witnessed in countless videos being published online) thrown to the ground, held against their will, thrown into vans and carted away to metal cages had nothing to do with violence or destruction at all. It is pretty easy to see that there was an abuse of power and several instances of improper use of force.

As we do not live in a police state it is quite dangerous to suggest that citizens had what was coming to them because they left their homes to exercise a right to speak. Unless, of course, you are someone who feels that is the kind of country you would rather see.
jason replying to a comment from RahAbasd / June 30, 2010 at 12:19 am
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RahAbasd,

Wow. You seem to have it all figured out and you really like to toss around insults.

How's this..

YOUR words sound like those of a person who is, If I may quote you, "a self righteous pampered obtuse idiot[sic] who haven't had enough contact with reality to know just how full of shit they are."

GFYS

Ta

Hunter / June 30, 2010 at 12:54 am
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Nailed it! QFMFT.

by RahAbasd

Passive aggresive yuppie children get mad when they find out jail is not a nice place.

Who cares.

Some sheltered idiot found out that antagonizing cops during a riot doesn't usually end well. omg we need a provincial inquest into this!

Police State! Police State! The cop broke my two hundred dollar camera after I shoved it in his face! You all saw it!

I've lived in Toronto all my life, and it, like any other big city, has a large contingent of self righteous pampered obtuse idiots who haven't had enough contact with reality to know just how full of shit they are.

Yes the police probably over reacted once in a while, but it doesn't compare to the cavalcade of bullshit from these people who stuck around after things got out of control.

As soon as a cop car went up in flame, I went home. The legions of goofy fucking children however, kept the struggle alive by playing passive aggresive games with cops.

Because that's what protesting is about, yelling at cops. Protesting is such a joke now, people have no idea what they're doing. Infantile, self-indulgent, and in the end pointless.

Grow up, the police deserve credit. Nobody got killed. Mealy mouthed university students had to eat cheese sandwiches and pee in front of other people in the make shift jail, cry me a river.
Witness To A Storm replying to a comment from RahAbasd / June 30, 2010 at 01:45 am
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Wow! Well put. All the whiners here need to read this post. They likely won't agree, but it nails the whole weekend's "protests" to a TEE.

To people comparing the protests of the G20 to the Women's Suffrage movement, or Civil Rights marches - please.... the people who marched in these movements of the past carried themselves with a dignity and grace that these idiots could have learned something from. Contrast footage of the civil rights marches from Selma to what I saw firsthand on display this weekend; Transgendered dudes clamoring for their "rights" by waving signs in police officers' faces, black hooded punks smashing things and taunting police to be in their youtube videos, and people crazy-dancing to tired Bob Marley protest songs, while the crowds chanted "Hey Hey USA, How many kids did you kill today?" and waved legalization flags. What a joke.

Please do not mistake this dog and pony show that embarrassed our city this weekend with the agents of movements that helped achieved major social change in the last century. They have little if anything in common besides the fact that they both walked somewhere in the middle of the street in trying to make their voices heard.
Paul replying to a comment from Witness To A Storm / June 30, 2010 at 01:58 am
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Sam / June 30, 2010 at 02:10 am
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Who cares if the protesters were disorganized and lacked any real cause? The integrated security unit treated normal bystanders like shit. thats the problem.
Rico / June 30, 2010 at 02:22 am
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I demand the financial billing of all those whiney dorks that held our city hostage more than the G20 area did. Bunch of whining bastards littered our streets, walked amongst the "real criminals" yet did absofuckinglutely nothing about them, then bitch about our police force?

Stay at home and knit yourself a life, bitches. Stop your quintessential Canadian bitching.
John Spragge / June 30, 2010 at 03:10 am
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@witness: right... every reactionary has denounced protesters in exactly those terms, going back to the year dot. The people who protested for the things we NOW support and indeed take for granted had grace and dignity, but these whiners, hooligans and punks, why they (fill in the nonsense here). Let me fill you in. We have a free country today because of a rag-tag bunch of eccentric agitators who walked down Yonge Street from Montgomery's Inn, led by William Lyon MacKenzie. They make the Black Block look modest and respectable (for one thing, they all had guns). And yet those dangerous crazies led to Lord Durham's report, which led to our freedom as a nation. You can find all of this in any high school textbook, by the way.
haycon / June 30, 2010 at 03:19 am
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i aggree wth you rico,. a lgeitimate protest of many and anarchist of a few.... the many let the few disrupt your little march. you you wanted to be heard? just think how much better your voices wouldve been heard while runnning. Toronto defended itself. you shoulvereclaimed your protest AND YOUR STREETS turned on, detained and MADE SURE the black bloc were made example of... that's why the continuse to disrupt legitimate and legal peasceful protests because the get away with it..
Ob / June 30, 2010 at 03:35 am
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Those who are posting about the "black block" were not there to see the facts with their own eyes. Here is the facts.

The police commanders LET THE BLACK BONEHEADS run amok for miles, and for over 2 hours. Get it? The police were ordered to stand-down, and they stood there and watched those little morons break windows. Who's fault is that?
The police are obligated to protect the property of those on Yonge St and they REFUSED TO PROTECT YONGE ST.
Why?
Why did the police let those few idiots break windows for miles and for hours?

Its so they can justify their 100 million and billion dollar budget.
Then after a few hours, the police bring out a clumsy sow-moving army of riot-troops, and make 800 FALSE ARRESTS. They did it on purpose, just to fill up their jail.

The police were negligent, and FAILED TO PROTECT Yonge St and Queen St.
Then the police under orders from their earpieces, arrested more than 800 innocent people. The police should have calmed things down, but chose to carry out their charade.

This entire thing was a sham and a scam. A couple hundred normal cops, could have chased down and arrested those idiotic vandals in minutes. But they police stood there and watched. How long does it take cops to respond to a break-and-enter on Yonge St? Minutes.
But that day, they sat back and watched, as those idiots broke windows. The FACT is that the police commanders are to blame for the damage. They refused to stop it.

Then later, they go and use extreme riot cop tactics, on some kids, and young women. A bunch of BULLIES. Did you see all the young girls they arrested? The police went and targeted EASY ARRESTS, and picked on these young girls, to fill their arrest quota.
Meanwhile, the real goons were LONG GONE, they took off.
Wake up, this entire sham was a fraud right from the top of the police commanders. A fraud. Those who were there, saw it.

If there is a proper investigation, it will come out, how long the police refused to stop the vandals.
Ob / June 30, 2010 at 03:57 am
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And for those who are talking about "whining", just wait until your train comes in one day. You will be out with your buddies, after a game...and 20 cops approach you, and aggressively accuse you of something. you say...what?
Next thing you know, 10 cops are coming down on your neck, and bashing your head in, and sending you into a cage without charge.

What if that happened yto your wife or female children?

Some of those cops, in large groups, were behaving illegally and shamefully. The orders from their police bosses were absolutely horrible and ineffective.

Maybe one day you will be in Mexico, and get a taste of what was going on that night.

Also, the city did NOT set a curfew and did not declare martial law, so people were ALLOWED to be on the streets. The police arrest of innocents were illegal.

Those who watched it on TV, have no idea what happened. Those who were there saw the outrageous police tactics, and were appalled. The police, shamefully, picked on young women and young men, who were easy arrests, and even then beat some of them up.

The police say back for hours, and let Queen St burn, and stopped a firetruck from coming in to put out the fire. The police commanders negligence could have burned down Queen S.
Police standing around, and hiding in the allies.

Then the nest day, there are police all over Yonge! Too late guys, you should have been there the day before to stop people's stores from getting thrashed by some 100 lb idiots.

The police commander abandoned Yonge St, and used it to lure those vandals away from the fence. That is reality. Yonge St was the bait, left with no protection. The guys store at Yonge-Gerrard was left to be sacrificed, so the 12,000 cops behind the fence down south didn't have to put their helmets on. That is what happened.

The Yonge St business owners should file a report for negligence against the police, for failing to protect them, as is their duty. The police can stand by and watch crimes being committed, and come back 3 hrs later.
If there were robberies on Yonge, do the police wait for 3 hrs then come by with a riot-squad, and arrest whoever is there 3 hrs later?

This was the biggest scam and fraud in the history of this city, or perhaps the country. A total disgrace and sham, by the police. 20,000 ARMED TO THE TEETH police pretending they cannot control 100 jerkoffs and vandals.

And some people are dumb enough to believe it. Even the cops were ashamed of themselves, to have stand there while 50 kids trashed windows. The police bosses are to blame for not doing their job, so the mess can get more in the budget.
Shame for not protecting Yonge St.
Shame for targeting easy arrests like 90 lb girls who are INNOCENT AND DID NOTHING.

It was legal to be out, there was no martial law or curfew.
The police know this, and many of them are ashamed of what they did, as it was so dishonorable. They have the police brass to thank for their orders.
S / June 30, 2010 at 07:56 am
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@Ob
Let's hope those ashamed will find work elsewhere. Nobody should listen to commands to stand down on the guilty unless they are lapdogs. Their bosses must resign over this mess.

Unlike Detroit, people live in downtown Toronto.

LIES of politicians making alleged secret deals, then truth of police enforcing non existant laws. Those at the top will have to take FULL responsibility. Many people were innocent and arrested 'to justify' the billion+dollars. I heard a class-action suit is in the works. I'm sure it's not just the money that will be on the agenda, but actual resignations WITH NO PENSIONS to ALL those responsible. Those innocent that were arrested need to get their reputations cleared up and have their arrest records cleaned up fast.

Politicians that got their egos inflated over the G20 must resign too - without pension as well. They are our employees and we must fire them before they get even more callous. We don't need them working for us anymore.

At the end, during the press conference, my blood boiled when harper said, "...there isn't really a Canadian economy anymore; it's a global economy." HE GAVE UP OUR SOVEREIGNTY!
Not only that, he thumbed his nose at Canada and Toronto.

Not many saw that because we are focused in the Keystone Kops. A classic Muhammad Ali rope-a-dope.

We got sucker punched. The time to fight back 'is now' and force everyone that created the G20 mess from the top down to make them resign, with no pensions.

Facepalm / June 30, 2010 at 08:29 am
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S / JUNE 30, 2010 AT 7:56 AM
At the end, during the press conference, my blood boiled when harper said, "...there isn't really a Canadian economy anymore; it's a global economy." HE GAVE UP OUR SOVEREIGNTY!
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This is so fucking colossally stoopid.
Rico / June 30, 2010 at 08:40 am
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@Ob:

You know what I really laugh at? Is the repetition of what is "legal". Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's a good place to be or to exercise. It's legal for you to just start walking across at a crosswalk, but I wouldn't recommend that to anybody. You are not required by law to press the button to turn on the flashing lights. It is "recommended" you look both ways before crossing. It is "recommended" that you wait until traffic stops. It is "suggested" you point to indicate you are indeed crossing. It's about safety, not the law. Jumping out into traffic with your little legal book in your hand will only make you dead right. But I guess once you're dead, you can bring up the laws in court, right?

Exercising that "legality" can still get you into trouble, by the nature of the law. Interpretation of what is appropriate and what is not, still lies in the situation and deciphering of any officers of the law.

Inducing your rights is a passive aggressive behaviour. Second, that process, in a demonstration such as the G20, is completely fruitless. Of all the noise over the weekend, I didn't hear one structured presentation of any cause. Heck, for that matter, Huntsville had the best penetration with the big heads of state.

Policed state? Sure, bring it on. Their job is intimidation to flush out any real issues with anybody out there. Same happens at airports. Same happens at border crossings. Same happens with speeding tickets. Same happens in court. If you have nothing to hide, then why worry? Those questions won't unravel anything, right?

@S: You need more sleep, and a lot more education.
Witness To A Storm replying to a comment from John Spragge / June 30, 2010 at 09:16 am
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Everytime I post here, some moron has to imply my comments are borne out of a lack of education... "A High school textbook"? I have 13 years of post secondary education, and was there at the protests this weekend. I saw what happened with my own eyes, unfiltered by the biased lenses of the CBC or the equally biased flip-cams held by protesters. Both sides came across like fools.

No matter how much you try to convince us otherwise, people marching in a united just cause for civil rights and suffrage are not one and the same as the crazies campaigning for every special rights issue under the sun while trying to be a part of someone's tweet and youtube video. Unbelievable how people don't see the difference.

This was not a unified front marching for a cause. This was 1000 different special interests, clamouring for attention and getting none as the 1000's of voices collectively drowned each other out.

Chanting about the USA killing children is disingenous, misleading and plain offensive. Where are these same people when it comes to denouncing the awful medieval cultural practices of several governments in the Arab world? You think there is a lack of equitable distribution of wealth and social justice in the west? Dear god.

You complainers should jump on a plane and go move to Gaza where the Hamas-led government that is leading the "struggle" against democratic injustices will take good care of you.

To the dude who posted photos of some lady getting shoved to the ground by police. Context,mon ami. Show me what happened before the incident in question. You just prove my point. The cameras were set to capture the retaliation by police, but strangely off when the protesters were in their faces a moment earlier.

We live in the greatest country in the world. I can only imagine how these yahoos would fare when the G20 will be held in Beijing, or Brazil. Let me tell you; they'll stay home and protest via webcast from their parents' basements.

Rico / June 30, 2010 at 09:49 am
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Furthermore to Storm: I like it how a single picture of a cop with someone pinned to the ground, overrides the countless videos of Black Bloc amongst multiples of do-gooders, who just stand by and chant for rights. Crime right under their nose, and they don't do a thing. They obviously don't understand that policing is a service required by everybody, hired by everybody. That doesn't mean complete allowance of anybody anywhere anytime for any reason. Show me one activist that would stand in the middle of the 401 and claim they have a right to be there, and I'll show you the next statistic, and the very next Darwin Award.
anonymous voter replying to a comment from David / June 30, 2010 at 07:33 pm
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Want Blair fired? Make it a neccesity of the next Toronto Mayoral Elections. David Miller is a joke and has been since he replaced the most embarassing smudge in Toronto's history... Mel Lastman. Maybe the countries largest and most influential city should be resposible for electing a Mayor who knows the difference btw his head and his own anal cavity.... this abuse has been the result of Blairs inability to co-ordinate toronto police on an International level.... sure he is better than Fantino in the sense that Lenin was Better than Stalin but thats not saying much.... Fascism plus Police = GESTAPO and thats exactly what those SS pricks were. when police officers abuse their authority, they are no longer police in the employ of the state but rather criminal imperonating police officers.... These Black Hood idiots who were barely old enough drive, let alone purchase alcohol were not present for the majorty of assualts perpetrated by the so-called police. These officers should have been arrested not the protesters.... if you want change FIGHT for it.... this is a democracy, we hold elections... and will be holding one very soon. If these suit-monkeys want our votes.. lets make them EARN them... to quote someone smarter than myself... "Governments should be afraid of their people, not the other way around"
Fran / June 30, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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@Witness to a Storm

You state:

"Chanting about the USA killing children is disingenous, misleading and plain offensive. Where are these same people when it comes to denouncing the awful medieval cultural practices of several governments in the Arab world? You think there is a lack of equitable distribution of wealth and social justice in the west? Dear god.

You complainers should jump on a plane and go move to Gaza where the Hamas-led government that is leading the "struggle" against democratic injustices will take good care of you."

You are right to be offended by people questioning your education level. However; as your 13 years of post-secondary education demonstrates, there is no correlation between educational attainments and the ability to critically analyze information. Your misguided analysis of global issues and your simultaneous inability to identify the crucial issue in this debate is proof of this.

The National Post's Chris Selley recognized the polarizing nature of this debate in his recent article - The debate has NOTHING to do with your opinions on the legitimacy of the protesters' causes, but rather it concerns our fundamental rights which provide the basis for the division between countries like Canada and the government of Hamas. I have highlighted a good summation of his argument here:

"That our fundamental rights are not under especially significant threat is no excuse not to stand up for them, rationally and steadfastly — or at least to remember what they are. There must be hundreds of hours of videotape out there of police officers acting commendably, deplorably and everything in between. So let’s collate, examine and discuss, and demand explanations. As Mr. Dziekanski’s death proved, you can keep trying to pretend the state has nothing but benign intentions toward you, but when everyone has a camera phone, reality is going to keep getting in the way."

Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...#ixzz0sMXneuyk
Josh replying to a comment from tim / July 1, 2010 at 01:07 pm
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For those saying protesters arrested knew what they were getting into, read this. A TTC officer leaving work in full uniform arrested and jailed for 36hours. Did he deserve to be arrested?

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog20summit/article/830858--ttc-worker-caught-in-g20-police-sweep
Toronto was Great replying to a comment from MildredViolence / July 2, 2010 at 02:56 am
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Protests are a part of the Canadian Democracy and are legal...the protesters do not need tissues they need to have their constitutional rights given back...Black Bloc should have been stopped long before Sunday...do not confuse them with the peaceful protestors...we have rights in this country...if you don't want your rights go and live in a country where you don't have any!!!!
Toronto was Great replying to a comment from Mike / July 2, 2010 at 03:00 am
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You know a few minorities were speaking about this very issue and stated now the average caucasian knows how we feel...we have been profiled by the Police for so long...watching them arrest young non-minorities for maybe wearing black that day they actually see what we feel when we can't change the colour of our skin. This could be the whole opening on a larger issue. Profiling by the Police is wrong from any angle and unconstitutional!!!!!! Thank you for bringing this up!!!
Toronto was the Good replying to a comment from tim / July 2, 2010 at 03:08 am
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Yes but this is a way of life on our Democracy...we can protest in the streets and the 1 billion spent on security should have kept all of the protesters from being exposed the the less than one hundred Black bloc protesters...My goodness the Police took pictures on Friday of them why did they not stay with them until the end of the G20 Summit...we know they were paid enough...we say the pictures as they stood close by while they did their damage in Toronto...these Officers were paid and there were enough of them...where did the taxpayers money go???? Protesters had the right to protest...Police Officers were paid to serve and protect...too many citizens saw them stand by and do absolutely nothing...looked like quota grabbing to me and a lot of others too!!!
Toronto was the Good replying to a comment from Max / July 2, 2010 at 03:22 am
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You have a legit complaint...but do not confuse peaceful protesters with the Black Bloc and the fact that a BILLION DOLLARS IN SECURITY stood by while your places of employment were vandalized...they stood by and took pictures on Friday and didnt get tough until Sunday!!!
Peaceful protests are a way of life in Ontario and especially Toronto...the blame is not on the peaceful protesters on this one but they took on the arrests and brutality...this is not the way of life in Canada...you must be rich and not questioning where your tax dollars went to last weekend!!!
Toronto was the Good replying to a comment from Eric / July 2, 2010 at 03:31 am
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Oh Eric you forgot to add and for all of you CANADIANS that thought that CANADA was a DEMOCRACY go and give your heads and shake and whenever you leave your home just be prepared to be searched and arrested because an Officer does not like your face!!!!!
Toronto was the Good replying to a comment from Eric / July 2, 2010 at 03:33 am
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Profiling Protesters...now maybe a lot of other Canadians will understand what it is like to be a minority and Racially Profiled every day of your life by Police!!!
Toronto was the Good replying to a comment from Kim / July 2, 2010 at 03:40 am
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The only reason "YOU" Kim have a say in anything is because of peaceful protests demanding women have rights...are you informed on any of the issues of the protests...yes in CANADA we have a right to speech and peaceful demonstrations...BLACK BLOC were watched by our billion dollar security force while they did their damage and then on sunday another mentality took over and they wound up arresting everyone that was on the streets of Toronto...is this what you want?????
Witness To A Storm replying to a comment from Fran / July 3, 2010 at 10:54 am
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Fran;
I don't understand why the enlightened few seem to think that insulting retorts are necessary;
"You are right to be offended by people questioning your education level. However; as your 13 years of post-secondary education demonstrates, there is no correlation between educational attainments and the ability to critically analyze information. Your misguided analysis of global issues and your simultaneous inability to identify the crucial issue in this debate is proof of this. "

My misguided analysis? You insult me, and then go on to quote some article supporting your distorted opinion from the National Post? Unbelievable.

I have an idea. Get a job that requires you to leave your basement, shave your armpits, and then find an opinion that is your own, and doesn't merely echo the rhetoric of garbage spouting National Post journalists or the 800 special interest groups that used last weekend as a soapbox for their own self-indulgent interests.

Toronto and Canada will be fine. Despite your chicken-little attempts to suggest the contrary.

Murray replying to a comment from ramanan / July 5, 2010 at 09:24 am
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Bill Blair has got to go..He dose not understand the charter,and thats important for a police cheif to know..Don't you think?
Murray replying to a comment from ramanan / July 5, 2010 at 09:42 am
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There are way too many instances of abuse of power on too many levels, I think they showed poor judgment in there tactics..There is more and more evidence of the use of agent provokatures ,I saw trampling of people by horse...We need an inquiry to set this strait. As a Torontonian I saw multiple instances of brutality by police. Bill Blair must resign,its the only way for the police force to regain any sence of credability for the sightation of fictious laws. 900 people were strip searched that day,I hope all of you understand the gravity of your willingness to condone such actions as I have no doubt there will be more of this to come if it is seen as acceptable. Im not sure the Canada I thought I new will recover from this one.....:(
LetsJoin! / July 5, 2010 at 01:38 pm
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A new recruiting slogan?

"Join the Toronto Police Force. Meets lots of interesting new people, beat them up, arbitrarily arrest them, and threaten to rape them in custody. It's a fun job and has the Mayor's complete backing! You'll never go wrong, or do anything wrong, in today's Toronto Police Force!"
whatthe? / July 6, 2010 at 08:40 am
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All of you who agree with the actions of the police: what about the TTC fare collector who was arrested and detained for 30+ hours while on his way to work? What perspective would you have if police threw you on the ground, put you in prison for 30+ hours for simply walking to work? how can you honestly justify that?!!! work place, wrong time for going to work?
George Jefferson / July 12, 2010 at 03:31 am
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Well, in response to Tim's comments above. "Next time you get robbed, mugged, etc... don't call the police", unless of course its Schertzer, Benoit and his gang of 11 Division cops mugging you. But of course, cops are not corrupt at all. Just look at the infamous drug squad and ex-chief Fantino who gets charged for obstruction.
John Spragge / July 12, 2010 at 04:16 am
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@witness: no amount of education can make your comparison of past social movements with the present more compelling. Social change involves conflict, division, and a lot of loud argument. Suffragettes, for example, engaged in protest of all kinds, not excluding the destruction of property and damage to works of art, and the suffragette movement fractured at the start of the First World War. Similar fractures characterized the American civil rights movement, the resistance to Apartheid, the anti-slavery movement, and the movement for universal male suffrage. The union movement had moth Walter Reuther and Jimmy Hoffa.

Looking back on these movements, with their goals safely achieved, some people evidently prefer a romantic haze that covers the split between Gandhi and Subhas Chandra Bose, between Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam, or between Christabel and Sylvia Pankhurst. Anyone who wants to look at their world that way can, but it does not justify expressing contempt or disgust at the messy reality of protest movements today.
LMIH replying to a comment from Witness To A Storm / July 13, 2010 at 03:02 pm
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I agree with you 'Witness to a storm'.
Lynn / October 10, 2010 at 02:29 am
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I love how all you guys keep complaining about police brutality and all this shit. The police did what they had to do. There job was to keep everyone from the fence and THEY SUCCEEDED! That is all you heard about was the Black bloc and riots. I still have no idea what happened with the world leaders and what they discussed. No one seems to care and that is the major problem.
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Will Jeffery / July 29, 2013 at 02:38 pm
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To backseat Tim, as they said stay behind your monitor, and believe we have a wonderful police force, a police force where officers for ladies downtown to have sex if they wish not to be charged, or personally speaking people like me who are taken into a backroom and beaten, or locked away for 3 days and no one knows where you are, or deprived of sleep and forced to drink some liquid. Keep in your own little world and believe. Also when I have trouble I deal with it, I do not call an agency that may once more do some unknown thing to me, because they have the power. So stay behind the monitor and suck up to the rug-rats

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