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Inside the Queen and Spadina detention zone

Posted by Dennis Marciniak / June 29, 2010

G20 detention zoneAs a Torontonian and photographer, I set out this weekend to capture footage of the protests but never to interfere or intervene. After a few phone calls on Sunday, I made the decision to follow a group that was leaving Dundas Square. The protest was peaceful. In fact, the most violent act I witnessed until later that evening was a gentleman jumping on a bus shelter. He was asked down by police but not arrested.

G20 detention zoneOnce we got to Queen and Spadina, many protesters decided to sit on the ground. They chanted, "Who's streets? Our Streets." as they sat in various groups at the intersection.

To be quite frank, I stopped shooting. I had all the images I wanted of this group and decided to head northbound to capture the TTC street car backup.

Approaching the first streetcar I noticed a male being chased for a few meters before being apprehended. I pulled my camera to my face and snapped that shutter. The individual was then taken to an alleyway on the west side with heavy police presence. I continued to shoot the line when another coach bus arrived.

Off the bus came riot police ready for action. They began to advance toward us. In the chaos I asked one officer where I should move. He replied to me "South on Spadina or East on Bulwer St." Not being familiar with Bulwer St., I decided to head down Spadina. I was suddenly trapped in the "detention zone".

G20 detention zoneNo one in the crowd seemed to understand what was taking place. The police say that we were warned, but I was not, nor were a lot of the people I spoke with. A lot of us weren't sure what was even going on to be quite honest. We figured the police were protecting us from something that was going on east of the intersection because of the way they had cut us off.

Eventually, a car pulled up to the middle of the intersection and a gentleman in standard Toronto Police Service uniform got out. He began pointing at people in our crowd as three "burly" RCMP officers ran past the police line to makes arrests.

G20 detention zoneBy attending this protest I knew the risks of being possibly arrested. I'm not complaining about being detained. I understood the urgency of the situation. But I wasn't impressed at the way some of my fellow non-violent citizens were being treated. I witnessed a male in his late 60s being arrested, two fourteen-year-old girls being held among a whole host of people.

It dawned on me that half of these people simply were at the wrong place at the wrong time and not actually protesters.

Once the rain hit I ran to someone with an umbrella and kindly asked him if I could share it with him. Two other people came and the four of us shared one umbrella despite getting absolutely soaked regardless. The jokes starting coming out, "Stephen Harper owes me a new iPhone" one newfound friend said to our group followed by a chuckle from all of us.

G20 detention zoneEventually people were so sick of standing in the rain that a line formed. It was a line to be arrested. I decided to wait around as I had a hunch that the police wouldn't want to process 200 people, especially if half of them weren't protesters to begin with. Four hours later the rain died down and anyone who wasn't arrested was let free. All in all it wasn't that bad - but I'll always feel for the people who were simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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See also: Police trap G20 protesters at Queen and Spadina

All photos by Dennis Marciniak

Discussion

25 Comments

HUK / June 29, 2010 at 08:39 am
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DALTON MCGUINTY YOU HO, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT
joel / June 29, 2010 at 08:43 am
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where's the photo credit?
fireblair / June 29, 2010 at 08:45 am
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not one person in that crowd has stated they heard any warnings to leave the area or get arrested. Blair is so full of shit when he said they warned people three times.
reef / June 29, 2010 at 08:56 am
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Waaaambulance. Cry us a river, you bunch of scene kids. The police did their job, move along.
iiiiionion replying to a comment from fireblair / June 29, 2010 at 09:05 am
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Are you schizophrenic and representing every person who was there?
ohiiiiionion / June 29, 2010 at 09:25 am
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then go find me one person heard them at least once? not one has make any public statement, even all the media there don't not hear any warnings. But lets not argue with the BLOGTO assholes, you fuckheads seem to think the world orbits around you.
K replying to a comment from reef / June 29, 2010 at 09:35 am
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Exactly. MOVE ON!
Jeff / June 29, 2010 at 09:36 am
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I understood that the police were taking video tape as well on their end. They should come out with the proof that they warned people. I heard them on the radio warning people around teh detention centre (5 minute warning before arrests start) but I don't think they ever started arresting people. If they didn't give a warning to clear the road then that is BS. If they gave a warning, then I am on the side of the cops.

bleeker replying to a comment from ohiiiiionion / June 29, 2010 at 09:38 am
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Uhh, world revolves around us? We're not pursing some futile crusade against the cops dude. It's time you got over yourself yeah? Leave the big decisions to the grown-ups and get back to playing recess with your wee friends.
Sheryl / June 29, 2010 at 11:25 am
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The top photo was taken at the beginning of the stand-off when police were still blocking the intersection kitty-corner from the SE corner to the NW corner. There are NO police visible on Spadina north of Queen at this time. To say that no one had the opportunity to leave is incorrect and misleading.
andrzej stopyra / June 29, 2010 at 11:39 am
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I was there and the were no warnings at all. At least no audible warnings ie: functional warnings.

So they trapped me for five hours, kettled in with the elderly, immigrants, children, etc. I chose to walk in my city, which may have been my fault. I just thought that was my right.

Public Inquiry would be great.
Dennis Marciniak replying to a comment from Sheryl / June 29, 2010 at 01:09 pm
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Nobody had opportunity to leave once I went North of Queen. A police officer asked me which way I wanted to go, but never mentioned arrest.
Oh god replying to a comment from Dennis Marciniak / June 29, 2010 at 01:20 pm
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@Dennis Marciniak When the bartender asks you to leave the bar for whatever reason, do you come back the next day and tell him it's your right to come back in?

No. Because nobody in the whole bar wants you back.

Maybe next time you should devote more time to whatever cause you are "politely protesting", than one weekend with a sign.
Dennis Marciniak replying to a comment from Oh god / June 29, 2010 at 01:35 pm
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I'm not going to argue with you - but I'm a photographer - have been for years.. I have a BFA in the field. I was not there to protests or to intervene. Being a photographer - you are there to observe, never to intervene with the news. Unfortunately, I found myself in a position where it was hard to maintain that stance.

I was not protesting - I'm not a protester, I'm a photographer. I want to be very clear about this.

The "bartender" wouldn't let me leave - if I did I would have been placed under arrest.
jennifer / June 29, 2010 at 01:56 pm
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My friend Lisa was at that intersection with her fiance, and they were both warned by the police several times to leave the area. They were smart, and they did just that. I can't believe they actually went to a known hot-spot, but they were curious, as were most people there I am sure. However, they were warned.

Seriously, if the cops ask you to leave, then leave. Your rights aren't being trampled on. Cops want the area clear, clear it. Not a big deal.
Dennis Marciniak replying to a comment from reef / June 29, 2010 at 02:03 pm
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Born in Germany - scene kids make me laugh so please don't put me in that category please, especially since you've never met me.

Meet the face of BlogTO before you label us as scene kids.
Dennis Marciniak replying to a comment from Sheryl / June 29, 2010 at 02:05 pm
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Sheryl: If you look on my blog (click my name) you can view my detailed experience in images of when I left north of Queen and what took place. If anyone else has any other questions - I'd be more than happy to answer them. Please do it respectfully as Sheryl has done here.
skaught / June 29, 2010 at 02:08 pm
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@Oh god: are you really comparing a privately owned bar to the public space of a city's downtown intersection? i think you just undid your own point. you are a skilled stumbler.
Dennis Marciniak replying to a comment from jennifer / June 29, 2010 at 02:21 pm
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I guess the people who heard that they would be arrested if they didn't leave - left. Maybe the majority of people who were in the group were people who weren't warned because I'm sure if the opportunity had arisen many would have left, but it's hard to say - that's just speculation.

James / June 29, 2010 at 02:33 pm
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The bartender comparrison is valid. Just because you have "THE RIGHT" to be somewhere doesn't mean you should be. Do people have the right to stand in the middle of Queen st and black traffic?
PW / June 29, 2010 at 03:09 pm
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As someone who was down there (Before they closed up) I would just like to add. We were attempting to go west on Queen to eat. At that time they had West, East and South blocked. The officer I talked to told me we could either wait for them to open up or go back the way we came. We waited 15 minutes and finally walked back up Spadina until we found an alley way that wasn't being blocked by cops and continued on our way. After eating we thought surely this was done since the whole time we were there, we only witness a completely peaceful protest. There was absolutely no one in the crowd trying to incite any acts of violence or anything along those lines. Along the way back down Queen we noticed north & south bound street all along Queen were blocked by police. Which told us no one was able to pass.

Most of Sunday should stand as a complete embarrassment for the Toronto police. Who I feel were probably pressured to make up for lack of policing the day before.

For spending a billion, I can't believe police were not able to track or arrest the black bloc. I wonder how much would have been needed to spend to follow these guys and make some arrest?

Police had a few hundred officers guarding HQ on College. They did nothing when the bloc passed right by them smashing things all along the way. Less than a half block away they smashed the CIBC and they did absolutely nothing... It just doesn't make sense.

The amount of people I saw across the city on Sunday being stopped to check their bags and ID was alarming. I was stopped once on Dundas walking alone. Was asked where I was headed. This was around 1pm while I was walking to get a haircut.

Sad stuff...

Ob / June 30, 2010 at 04:25 am
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Even for a completely outrageous and illegal abuse of police power like this, there are apologists.

What was this? This was some police commander who wanted to try out his riot training kettling on some human guinea pigs. The coward did not have the nerve to kettle the black blockheads, so instead these cowards kettle 14 year old girls.

Riot police kettling 14 year old girls.
Some of those police are fathers of 14 year old girls.

There better be a real investigation, and the commander and police who did this could very well be kettled themselves.

"I was just following orders" is not good enough.

What if their idiot police commander told them to start shooting? Would they? Unarmed passive civilians, and these police are using the most extreme RIOT TECHNIQUE they have, designed for RIOTS. You know what a RIOT is, with REAL violence? That is what kettling is for.
Those who did that to these citizens are going to be in hot water.

The kettling of innocent people is unlawful confinement, for anyone else. To unlawfully confine people is a crime.
But not if you are the police?
The police can confine hundreds without charge for hours?

Again, why didn't these police go after the black-blockheads 24 hours before on the SAME SPOT. That is where the BB was located, before they started down Queen. Why didn't they stop the vandals on Queen, instead of HIDING in the alleyways?

But no, a day later, they go up to innocent bystanders, and a peaceful gathering, and detain them for no reason, no charge.
It was just an exercise for them, to try out their "kettling training".
They should be ashamed, and many of them are.
How would they like it if their 14 yr old daughter was trapped in a kettling by some INCOMPETENT POLICE COMMANDER who is unable to make a decision, and wants to practice his riot techniques on some flesh?

Sick sick sick. To use the most extreme RIOT technique, on everyday people and bystanders.
Sick, perverse, and cowardly.

Then even worse, to lie about it, and say they were dangerous criminals. Lies lies lies. The amount of obvious lies coming from police headquarters, its beyond sick.
Ob / June 30, 2010 at 04:40 am
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The fact that the police did not pounce on the black-blockheads right in front the the police station, tell you everything you need to know.
The police had hordes of riot police inside the police station, and they FAILED TO ACT when called on by Toronto.

The police FAILED to act on the black-block right in front of the police station.
Where the police cowards?
No, they were ORDERED not to arrest those breaking the windows. The police commanders are either totally incompetent, or had another agenda. What was the agenda?
To allow the black-block to vandalize for a few hours, which would justify the billions spent on security.
Politics.
There you have it, the police playing politics for money, and Toronto is the victim.

Those police who watched the black-block vandalize should be ashamed of themselves. There are reports some of them were very angry at the police commanders for not allowing them to do their duty and arrest the vandalists.

Its politics, the police brass, wanting some broken glass before they acted. The broken glass pays the bills.

On top of this, the next day they shamefully and cowardly detain and kettle innocent people. INNOCENT, they released them.

This is a serious breach of the peace, and a breach of Canadian law. And they did it, and are trying to get away with it.
Every riot cop who did that kettle around 14 yr old girls and innocent people should be ashamed. What a perverse abuse of power. As stated in many articles, it was sadistic.
The police commander who did that, should be in serious trouble.

Police cannot break the law, and do whatever they want on their whim, to anyone they want.
The police brought shame onto themselves with that abuse of power, as can be seen in every rational person, even their own supporters turning against their kettling abuses.

And lying about it, only makes it worse.
Notice how much lying is coming our of police headquarters?
markus / June 30, 2010 at 10:33 pm
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why was the so-called "sound cannon" not used? if the police claims that they warned people three times to leave, surely the use of the sound cannon would prove that claim without a doubt.
Alex lives near the zone replying to a comment from James / July 3, 2010 at 01:15 pm
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A bar is private property. If you have worked in a bar you will know under what circumstances you can ask a patron to leave, and how to do it. Find another analogy.

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