Friday, July 30, 2010Partly Cloudy 16°C
City

Condo Development Forcing Move of Heritage Building at John and Adelaide

Posted by Rick McGinnis / February 3, 2010

Fox And FiddleThe building that currently houses the Fox and Fiddle pub at John and Adelaide will be taking a bit of a trip soon - up a foot or so, and then across the street for a short rest before it gets moved down the block a few dozen yards to its new home near the base of an as-yet-unbuilt 42-storey condo tower.

It's a rare instance where the city's heritage authorities have prevailed over developer convenience and set in motion the most dramatic of preservation actions, and Christopher Borgal has made it happen.

Fox And FiddleBorgal, a partner in Goldsmith Borgal & Company, is an architect with a conspicuous record of heritage projects, and a resume that includes memberships in Heritage Canada, the Association for Preservation Technology and the Society for the Study of Architecture in Canada, as well as a presidency of the Architectural Conservancy of Ontario. His firm recently oversaw the shifting of the James Cooper Mansion near Sherbourne and Bloor a few feet to make way for another tower, and he's been working with Hariri Pontarini Architects to give the onetime row houses at John and Adelaide a second life.

James Cooper MansionStill, the shifting of what the city's heritage inventory calls the Richard West Houses is, according to Borgal, not the most desirable option. "We typically try not to move the buildings, because we try to keep them in their original context, but the development pressures in some sites are that it's a better move to protect the building, both visually and historically. It's done as a last resort, rather than demolition, to move it to another location."

New Town Toronto, late 19th centuryIn old photos, the Richard West building is lost in a sea of similar row houses, built in 1869 in what was called "New Town" - 19th century urban sprawl, basically, radiating out from the city's historical centre on King Street East near Church and Parliament. Preserving them was obviously a city priority, as the background document published last year supporting Borgal's move details how Pinnacle, the site's developers, had come to the city in the spring of 2008 suggesting that the building be removed from the site. Heritage Preservation Services was adamant that it be retained somehow, which brought Borgal into the story.

"In this case, keep in mind that this building is not original - it's been completely gutted, and there's nothing left of the original interior," Borgal tells me. "All that's left is the shell, and over a period of years the thing has been completely renovated inside, so we don't have a lot to work with in terms of the conservation context.

Fox And Fiddle"We try to weave the context of the heritage of Toronto into these buildings to preserve the context, but it's obviously preferable to leave these buildings in their original location and restore it in place. The core area of Toronto is so valuable and the rights of the property owners are so strong that it's a lot of negotiation to preserve what we have."

There are worse options, of course - demolition is obviously the worst of all, and Borgal is no fan of "facadomies," though his firm was behind the Bay Adelaide Centre, which incorporated the façade of Chapman and Oxley's 1926 National Building into its exterior. "At that point it becomes an issue of whether we can treat this as urban art rather than a building. It's basically not the building anymore - it's just the external fabric, and I'm not entirely enthused about the facadism notion, but in order to preserve the context, the developers have certain rights based on the zoning they have, and if they tear it all down we completely lose these buildings."

Campbell House moves - 1972The history of moving buildings from one location to another is full of dramatic snapshots, none more so than the relocation of the temple of Abu Simbel in Egypt, which was threatened by inundation under the waters of the Aswan Dam in the mid-60s and moved 200 metres to higher ground. The most famous building relocation in Toronto history was Campbell House, the Georgian home that was moved across Yonge Street several blocks in 1972, from its original site near Adelaide and Frederick to the corner of Queen West and University Avenue. And Borgal points out that jacking up and moving homes from one community to another is a not uncommon sight in Newfoundland, especially in the remote outports.

2FoxAs for the Richard West Houses, they'll be making their journey sometime in the next couple of years, as Pinnacle has a completion date of 2012 on their condo project. There's an established science to building relocation, and the firms that specialize in this sort of thing will likely spend months jacking up and reinforcing it, but the move, Borgal insists, will probably take less than a day. "I would say it would be difficult to jack up a 50-storey office tower and move it, but technically it's possible, but you don't really want to get involved in something like that," he says. "There's no real limit - the only limit is cost."

Photo of James Cooper Mansion by Meteor54 of Flickr. Campbell House photo courtesy City of Toronto Archives.

Discussion

21 Comments

nat / February 3, 2010 at 11:07 AM
user-pic

Shitty. I actually like that fox in the fiddle and it's location. Some good memories there.

Denny Glingballs / February 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM
user-pic

That place is a dump. Whitby is a dump. i'm not fond of Oshawa either.

Adam Gorley / February 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM
user-pic

Towers, towers, towers...

I'm not against them, but I do wish we could be a bit more creative with our housing options.

Rob In replying to a comment from Adam Gorley / February 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM
user-pic

Like what? Subterranean boroughs? I'd like to know your thoughts on how to develop something on a small surface area while still maintaining a decent price (given the cost of that surface area). Doesn't leave many options beside a tower, does it? That being said, the towers themselves could definitely be nicer (thinking Cityplace..*puke*).

Joel / February 3, 2010 at 12:03 PM
user-pic

That picture you linked for "Newfoundland" is actually from Vancouver.

rick mcginnis In replying to a comment from Joel / February 3, 2010 at 12:36 PM
user-pic

Joel - You're right; wrong link. Fixed now.

rick mcginnis In replying to a comment from Denny Glingballs / February 3, 2010 at 12:37 PM
user-pic

Whitby? Oshawa? Huh?

gadfly In replying to a comment from Adam Gorley / February 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM
user-pic

Not gonna happen when many of these people buying the units are coming from countries the size of a postage stamp and 500 sq ft is sheer luxury! After all, this is Canada and we have no space left...

jennifer / February 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM
user-pic

Anyone know the story with the other building on the west side of John; the long one further south of the Fox? It used to be a pub, now it seems to be a construction office. Will it be restored too?

rick mcginnis In replying to a comment from jennifer / February 3, 2010 at 12:59 PM
user-pic

Jennifer - according to Pinnacle's renderings of the condo, it's still there - the Fox & Fiddle building will be moved right next to it. Whether it's part of the Pinnacle site, I can't tell.

geg In replying to a comment from gadfly / February 3, 2010 at 2:35 PM
user-pic

Hey gadfly, where do you live? North Bay?

Rajio / February 3, 2010 at 2:41 PM
user-pic

"It's a rare instance where the city's heritage authorities have prevailed over developer convenience and set in motion the most dramatic of preservation actions"

This sentence alone is pure BS.

JJ / February 3, 2010 at 2:59 PM
user-pic

Fascinating post. Well done, Rick!

gadfly In replying to a comment from geg / February 3, 2010 at 3:41 PM
user-pic

Name calling is the last refuge of the incompetent. I live downtown, actually and manage a couple condos. In fact, I've lived in and around Toronto for 30 years. The changes are not good,but then if you were more than 15, you'd know that.

Jer / February 3, 2010 at 4:12 PM
user-pic

Shame. A creative developer could have incorporated the historic bldg into the condo in a meaningful way.
I would certainly pay higher maintenance fees to have a pub as part of my condo's amenities ;)

Mark Dowling / February 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM
user-pic

Once you've turned it into a franchise pub, what's left to preserve?

Sasha / February 3, 2010 at 6:23 PM
user-pic

Nobody move a thing. I'll decide what's worth preserving or not. Gimmie 10 minutes to brainstorm

seanm In replying to a comment from Jer / February 3, 2010 at 7:39 PM
user-pic

The most meaningful thing they can do is give the building some separation from the bulk of the new building. Facades swallowed into new developments usually end up looking contrived and awkward. See: Jazz Residences on Church Street.

Luckily for all this building will be moved beside an existing heritage building and given some breathing room, which is a much better fate than being swallowed alive or sitting in isolation (as it currently is).

darrick baxter / February 3, 2010 at 8:49 PM
user-pic

Hello,

thats kinda stupid that people in toronto are putting up with destroying this buildings. Theres no reason for that. I live in Winnipeg and have to say im a bit ashamed at you folks for letting that happen.

dbax
Tech Blogger
Owner/Operator
IPAD RELEASE DATE Winnipeg
http://www.ipad-release-date.com

Adam Gorley In replying to a comment from Rob / February 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM
user-pic

Maybe it doesn't leave many options, or maybe we're just not thinking creatively about the possibilities. I don't know. But why should the immediate answer always be: tower, tower, tower?

Frankly, it wouldn't bother me as much if I found the towers attractive rather than mundane, and if they didn't create threatening streetscapes that preclude the possibility of meaningful street-level retail.

I don't know what the answer is, but I do know that I have no interest in actually going anywhere near any of our lovely city's new condo alleys.

seanm In replying to a comment from darrick baxter / February 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM
user-pic

I'm not sure if they teach reading comprehension up there in Winnipeg, but the article clearly states that 'this buildings' [sic] is being moved, not destroyed.

Add a Comment

Other Cities: VancouverMontreal