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Morning Brew: December 9th, 2008

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / December 9, 2008

20081209_mb.jpgPhoto: "Texting..." by chewie2008~, member of the blogTO Flickr pool.

What's happening in the GTA (and sometimes beyond):

There's a lot of talk about committing federal and provincial government money to infrastructural development in Toronto. But why haven't the shovels hit the ground at the Brick Works? What about the expansion of Union Station, promised some seven years ago? And the massive park project at Downsview?

Every once in a while I feel the need to curse. The Toronto Port Authority is toying with the idea of getting a new ferry to shuttle people to the island airport; this just a couple of years after getting a new one. Build a f**king pedestrian bridge already! Save those millions of taxpayers' money for something far less ludicrous - anything but a new ferry that shuttles passengers across a gap so small that my 8-year old nephew could throw a ball across it.

After plenty of much deserved public dissent over proposed changes to laws for young drivers, the Ontario government has changed its tune and will drop a contentious proposal. The proposal to limit the number of fellow teenaged passengers to one actually posed a greater threat to public safety (and detriment to the environment) than allowing teens to fill their cars to the point of bursting rivets (like clowns do).

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According to numbers recently released by the Auditor General, the only thing separating Ontario from dropping our newly crowned "have-not" title and being a "have" province is about half a billion dollars in uncollected tobacco taxes annually. [sarcasm]Those poor smokers... always being vilified for no good reason, eh?[/sarcasm]

Ontario's greatest advocate for changes related to the sale of raw milk products was handed a $5000 fine and $50,000 in legal fees. But he still plans to make and sell raw milk cheeses despite the legal and financial hurdles being thrown at him. If we can buy and eat raw oysters, order our steak blue at restaurants, and smoke cigarettes, why can't we have the right to choose to buy raw milk cheese?

Signs, signs, everywhere there are signs. The city is taking a harder look at the problem of sign-overload across the city, and may take measures in the near future to add new criteria for what can be displayed when and where. It almost seems like a losing battle though, since there are already so many out there that are clearly in violation of the law yet remain on display.

And charities are taking a huge hit due to the economic downturn. The problem is that people from every financial tier are affected, so even those that are well off are losing large and are less likely to give to those previously in need - and now in even more grave need.

Discussion

38 Comments

Ratpick / December 9, 2008 at 09:12 am
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Re: island airport ferry

Um, you can't build a simple bridge there. Sailboat masts need to squeeze underneath.

And don't think you'll be able to just build a pedestrian bridge. Lots of heavy equipment and ambulances (for medevac flights) need to cross over. Might as well accomodate them, too.
Jerrold / December 9, 2008 at 09:18 am
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I'd rather see a draw bridge installed than see the ferry continue. It's insane.
david / December 9, 2008 at 09:23 am
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RE: New ferry for the island airport

Didn't Miller win one of his elections based on the fact that he was going to stop a fixed-link to the airport? Could the TPA be posturing to prove how much money he's wasting to get the votes of a few islanders?
Malcolm Bastien / December 9, 2008 at 09:32 am
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Always a pleasure reading your Morning Brew Jerrold. Always sets me up to be depressed and pessimistic for the rest of the day!
Jerrold replying to a comment from Malcolm Bastien / December 9, 2008 at 09:43 am
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Be sure to tune in to tomorrow's Morning Brew. It'll be all puppies and candy canes! The very nature of the news is depressing and pessimistic, so if you have any sunshine to share with us, please do in the comments! :)
Ben on / December 9, 2008 at 09:44 am
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Any bridge would have to have a center height of at least 60' for masts.
gl smb / December 9, 2008 at 09:45 am
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I remember there was a lawsuit (or an injunction?) about the bridge and the result cost the city a few million dollars (in costs? or was that the damage award?), but what was the outcome of that?

Is Miller still opposed to it?

Ratpick, they had shovels in the ground last time, before that injunction, so I'm sure they have adequate plans for the bridge at the ready.
Ryan L. replying to a comment from Jerrold / December 9, 2008 at 10:01 am
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Like you said Jerrold, the waterway is quite narrow. I wonder if this would be a potential issue with a drawbridge. How much of that width is necessary to preserve the shipping that happens through that corridor? Would costs be prohibitively expensive for a bridge with its 'draw' section wide enough to allow this traffic?

What about something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transporter_bridge

Looks like it would be much cheaper than a tradition draw or swing bridge. The supports are kind of ugly though.
Christopher King / December 9, 2008 at 10:03 am
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At this point, I'm all for the drawbridge too.
Mayor Moron's campaign against the bridge was a waste of time in the end (similar to his current and previous times in office). The Island Airport is still there, as is Porter, and yet the sky has still not fallen.
I have no idea how much fuel and energy is wasted on a ferry to shuttle these folks across, but surely it's more than what it would take to maintain a drawbridge.


MMMMMMM. Puppies and candy canes. Can you throw in a unicorn too?
Jerrold / December 9, 2008 at 10:05 am
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Another option:

FILL IT so that vehicles can access the airport. Create a water passage south of the airport, to allow for boats to freely pass.
matts / December 9, 2008 at 10:19 am
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when there's will, there's a way... give an architect a task and they'll come up with a solution; a swivel bridge comes to mind as a simple way of dealing with this - not obtrucive, inexpensive and relaible. But, of course, there's no will...
Ryan L. replying to a comment from Jerrold / December 9, 2008 at 10:32 am
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But then they'd have to rename it from the Island Airport to Airport on a stick.

(Okay, I admit I stole that from a joke about PEI)
handfed / December 9, 2008 at 10:43 am
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Who cares, what's the Toronto Island good for, anyway? Some scrub land for you mountain-coop pussies to go run around in? Or some dinky airport? I say bulldoze the whole thing and make it a wild nature preserve, and enjoy the scenery from the Mainland.
Sean Galbraith / December 9, 2008 at 10:55 am
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Won't fill it, can't go over it.. what about a pedestrian tunnel under it?
Angie / December 9, 2008 at 11:06 am
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Putting in my vote for Morning Brew: The Puppies and Candy Canes Weekly Edition. But only if it comes with chocolate sprinkles.
Duthie / December 9, 2008 at 11:19 am
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Jerrold forgot to mention that those puppies shoot killer Bees out of there mouth and that the Candy Canes are laced with cyanide. :P
Mark Dowling / December 9, 2008 at 11:21 am
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No way will Miller cave on that. Personally I'm okay with a bridge but also a bridge across the eastern gap to open up the islands as an all year round destination.

Ironically, if the bridge to the airport supported streetcars we could have excellent transit by simply extending the existing track from Queens Quay <a href="http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&;FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r850y48ch6y1&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=28309981&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1">about 300m south</a>, with streetcars from Union and Bathurst replacing the Porter shuttle bus to Union.

It's almost a shame to contemplate getting rid of the little terminal building on the mainland - I guess it could be turned into a cafe or something to serve Ireland Park/Little Norway Park.
Mark Dowling replying to a comment from handfed / December 9, 2008 at 11:24 am
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@Handfed "Who cares, what's the Toronto Island good for, anyway? Some scrub land for you mountain-coop pussies to go run around in?"

The City's new appointee on the Authority (yes, they caved), made <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081205.PORT05/TPStory/TPNational/?page=rss&;id=GAM.20081205.PORT05">an interesting observation</a>:
"there is an issue of what is the best and highest use of the land. Is it best used as an airport <b>or for residences</b> or recreation?"

Interesting that building "residences" - i.e. condos - on the island would be even voiced aloud by an appointee of His Blondness.
o_O / December 9, 2008 at 11:51 am
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Mark, do you think the new appointee was asking if there should be condos or asking if there should be residents on the island at all? He's from an era of Metro government that had great conflict with Island residents over Metro's desire to turn the whole thing into a park by wiping out the Island cottages.
hardy / December 9, 2008 at 11:53 am
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uhm its called the boulevard sidewalks on bloor street! hello
Michael Glenn / December 9, 2008 at 12:32 pm
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Re: Airport Bridge, Google and Wikipedia are your friends.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_City_Centre_Airport#Bridge_to_mainland
Uma replying to a comment from Jerrold / December 9, 2008 at 12:51 pm
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Awesome :-)
manuel / December 9, 2008 at 02:39 pm
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Umm its called, leave it alone. It works it's fine, getting a new ferry is not a big deal. They know the traffic flow they have there a new ferry is fine. Keep the congestion on the mainland. If we want a bigger airport with bigger planes and more flights than yes. BUT otherwise everyone complains BUT most have never even flown outta city center airport. A bridge isn't gonna be the deciding factor for you to fly from there. Then all of a sudden its pouring rain and snow and no one wants to use the bridge so we'll all complain theres not enough ferries...
o_O / December 9, 2008 at 03:48 pm
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Re: Ferry

The Toronto Port Authority can have a ferry when they PAY THEIR TAXES. This joke of an agency has owed the City of Toronto money for years.
Mark Dowling replying to a comment from o_O / December 9, 2008 at 04:24 pm
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o_O - that would put the City on a collision course with the Province, since they own the land those houses sit on (Toronto Islands Residential Community Stewardship Act, 1993).
Mark Dowling / December 9, 2008 at 04:26 pm
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o_O - the matter of the houses on the Island was settled by the Toronto Islands Residential Community Stewardship Act 1993.
Mark Dowling / December 9, 2008 at 04:27 pm
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o_O - the Province owns the land those houses sit on and they have 99 year leases. The Port Authority has no remit and neither does the City.
josh / December 9, 2008 at 04:53 pm
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@o_O
"The Toronto Port Authority can have a ferry when they PAY THEIR TAXES. This joke of an agency has owed the City of Toronto money for years."

This joke of a city has allowed them to get away with it for years.
That's up to the City to decide if they want thier money or not and to let them stay in operation they created or allowed the monster OTHERWISE if the airport is in operaton just get me on my friggin flight.

Mark Dowling / December 9, 2008 at 05:01 pm
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@josh - City doesn't control TPA so had no choice, refusing to appoint a board member until the Feds threatened to do it for them didn't help though

@everyone - sorry for the multi posts, I thought my comments were being munched so I reposted... a few times...
J / December 9, 2008 at 05:26 pm
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RE: Island Airport
- Lisa Raitt, former TPA CEO and now Federal Natural Resources Minister was at a conference this morning where she boasted about the airport and encouraged everyone to take Porter...the battle rages on even after she's left!

RE: Union station 2nd platform
- its under construction. they've moved around the sewers and such and now you can see construction hoarding on the west side of Bay St. in the GO teamway north of the ACC

RE: Downsview
- tons of issues over land ownership and future funding. I read in the Star that things are starting to move though...

Feel free to correct me if i'm mistaken.
nate / December 9, 2008 at 05:27 pm
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Mayor Miller was clearly and specifically against a vehicular bridge to the island airport. He was fine with a pedestrian only bridge. Which of course the Port Authority and the airport had no interest in supporting.
Jerrold / December 9, 2008 at 05:28 pm
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@everyone

We had a comment blip for a few minutes this afternoon. It's since been fixed. Thanks!
Bubba / December 9, 2008 at 06:08 pm
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we're fuckt, this city is goin' into a shit hole
trev / December 9, 2008 at 06:10 pm
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RE: Island Airport
- Bonnie Raitt, singer songwriter "Lets give em something to talk about"
Chris / December 9, 2008 at 10:38 pm
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Does a bridge necessarily have to accomodate sailboat masts?
There's still a western gap for access to the open lake.

I'm a sailor and I use the eastern gap quite often. It's a luxury I'd hate to give up, but it doesn't seem fair to hold back what could be a major transportation hub for the sake of recreational sailors.

Maybe the bridge isn't a good idea for other reasons, but I don't think making sailboats go the long way around is one of them.
Mark Dowling / December 10, 2008 at 10:04 am
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I think in the context of future transportation needs it's worth leaving the western gap option open for ferries to Niagara and so on.

As for Downsview - it's a good example as to why there should be scepticism that getting rid of the airport will magically create a park, given the amount of faffing about there has been up there.

@nate - if the bridge was pedestrian, it would not carry fire engines/ambulances which is currently required. Thus the TPA would have to fund a bridge but continue to fund the ferry.
skipper / December 10, 2008 at 10:35 am
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Lets just get an aircraft carrier that floats and that you can walk across, that'a way we can easily move it
Diane / December 10, 2008 at 12:16 pm
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It's a good thing that Ontario owns that Toronto Islands real estate.

If the City owned it, it would be covered in condo towers by now. (And the thousands of residents would be screaming for a bridge any way.)

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