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TTC Subway Down Between Eglinton And Union on Yonge Line

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / September 17, 2008

ttc service disruptions not workingUpdate (10:56am):
Although the subway was shut down for 45 minutes, visitors to the TTC's new (really expensive) web site would not have known because the service disruption read "There are no major disruptions at this time" for the duration of the service shutdown. A transit rider (and blogTO reader) has also told us that TTC an employee in a west end station wasn't able to confirm whether or not service was down or restored.

Following this morning's incident, I spoke with TTC spokesperson Brad Ross, who admits that there are deficiencies. "The TTC.ca web site is still relatively new, and there are still wrinkles to be sorted out," he explained, adding that effective and quick communication with riders is of utmost importance. He'll be discussing this technical glitch in a meeting with web/technical staff this afternoon.

When asked about how the TTC passes on information to employees in times of service disruption, Ross briefly explained the current, admittedly cumbersome method: when apprised of service disruption by transit control, a small team of supervisors must telephone all 69 stations to pass on the news to toll collectors. Addendum: In addition to attempts by supervisors to inform employees directly, all TTC staff are expected to listen to, and relay information from, publicly broadcast PA announcements that are made in all stations and on subways.

Update (8:03am):
Police are saying that a woman fell onto the tracks, and a train passed through (over her?!) without touching her. Count your lucky stars.

Update (7:43am):
Subway service has fully resumed, but figure in some extra time to account for the backlog.

Update (7:30am):
680news radio is reporting that a police investigation is underway at the Yonge/Bloor station.
Trains on the Bloor-Danforth line are skipping by the Yonge stop.

7:22am on Wednesday, September 17, 2008

"A section of the Yonge-University-Spadina Subway service is currently shut down from Union Station to Eglinton Station."

This includes service in both directions. Expect shuttle bus services to be in operation.

(Source)

Discussion

21 Comments

Kristen / September 17, 2008 at 07:35 am
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surprise, surprise, the ttc website doesn't evenmention anything (as of yet anyway)
Jerrold / September 17, 2008 at 07:37 am
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Nothing being relayed via the front page of ttc.ca :(
Paul / September 17, 2008 at 07:51 am
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Why don't the TTC use Twitter (or something similar) for realtme updates? Wouldn't take someone a minute to keep it updated with major news.
Jerrold / September 17, 2008 at 07:55 am
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They do use RSS, but it doesn't update frequently enough to be truly useful (we tried it!). What they SHOULD do is pay for an RSS feed service that is instantaneous, and share the code so that we can embed it in our page side bar.
Paul / September 17, 2008 at 08:00 am
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If that's an RSS feed for the Disruptions page (http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/disruptions_current.htm) that doesn't really help because that page can be hours out of date.

But ultimately I don't care how they do it - the TTC just needs to get quicker at updating customers online and on the platforms/trains.
DH / September 17, 2008 at 08:29 am
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Take the time to log a complaint using the TTC web site. Click on "Contact Us" at the bottom of any page. I believe they were gloating about a drop in complaints recently, but I believe people just don't take the time to do it.
Jerrold / September 17, 2008 at 08:34 am
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@Paul

We tested the TTC RSS (they use feed43.com), and it updates about once every 15-20mins at best. This renders it relatively inefficient.

http://feed43.com/ttcstatus.xml

Why the ttc.ca front page doesn't propogate the RSS is a mystery to me.

http://www3.ttc.ca/RSS/Service_Alerts/index.jsp
Mark Dowling / September 17, 2008 at 08:57 am
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No announcements (not even stops) on subway car 5886 this morning at about 8am. No announcements at Coxwell Station and the TV display was as useful as a chocolate fireguard. This made deciding how to get downtown tricky.

Fortunately the choice of St George worked out but TTC routinely forgets that people travelling on one line DO need to know what's going on on the other, and that when a condition that has been announced on local radio/tv has cleared, it might be an idea to leave a notification of service resumption on the screen for say half an hour.
Ryan L. / September 17, 2008 at 09:08 am
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I remember the the subway derailed between Warden and Kennedy I had been travelling from Kipling to Warden daily. The morning after the derailment the subway had gotten all the way to Victoria Park before I heard a single general announcement (that's one announcement in over 45 minutes). The subway had stopped several times due to the problem, but the operator failed to mention anything and only said something as the subway sat for 15 minutes between Victoria Park and Warden, shortly after the general announcement was made (and shortly after everyone's last chance to get off the subway and avoid the delay).

The next day, the subway still down past Warden, not a single announcement until the Subway had gotten to Warden and the operator informed the riders that they wouldn't be heading any further. A nasty surprise for those who hadn't heard the news about the derailment.
Disparishun / September 17, 2008 at 09:57 am
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This is a classic example of why the Sheppard line needs to link the Yonge-Sheppard and Downsview stations. Southbound Yonge trains are standing-room only by the time they hit Sheppard. There needs to be a northern crossover to allow the University-Spadina segment to absorb some of those north-south travellers.
apetimberlake / September 17, 2008 at 10:00 am
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I got to my station in the west end at about 8 am.
Asked the guy in the booth "is the yonge line running now"

he responds "I don't know"

WTF!
Greg Smith / September 17, 2008 at 10:54 am
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Twitter for service disruption notices would be a great idea, since it can push out SMS messages as well.

The TTC also needs to maintain a page where service disruption advisories persist for at least a few hours. When you are late for work because of the TTC, and your supervisor drives or takes the GO to Union and walks the PATH, it's nice to have some evidence to corroborate your explanation... especially when the delay is short enough (e.g. 15-20 mins) to make you late but not long enough to filter out to the media. Presumably they resist archiving this information publicly because it could be embarrassing?
Lindsay / September 17, 2008 at 11:08 am
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Apparently the story about the woman run over by three subway cars was accurate: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/oddity_woman_survives_subway
Jerrold / September 17, 2008 at 11:16 am
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@ Lindsay

That Yahoo news story isn't accurate. It was originally thought that the woman fainted, but that has since proved to be false.
kate / September 17, 2008 at 12:18 pm
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wow, they SHOULD use twitter. i'd totally subscribe to updates on my cell phone if they did.
W. K. Lis / September 17, 2008 at 01:12 pm
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The Toronto EMS Launch Paramedic Pilot Project were already at the station when the incident happened. They were able to access the situation quickly since they were already at the station.
Graham / September 17, 2008 at 01:55 pm
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I was at college station this morning,and i am hearing imaired... there were no signs to tell anyone that there were not any trains... there was a piece of cardboard over the ticketbooth and a closed sign on it... i walked through with my Metro pass.. and walked towards the stairs leading northbound... i was grabbed by the shoulder by a TTC worker and was yelled at, now for my sake.. i couldnt hear a word they said... but reading lips.. they were out of line... one said i need to pay more attention... i made a gesture asking where are the signs... and gave him the sign for F'u... middle finger...
apetimberlake / September 17, 2008 at 02:01 pm
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^^Graham.
You should complain to the TTC in regards to the treatment you recieved.

That makes my blood boil!!!!!!
Peiji / September 17, 2008 at 03:48 pm
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a woman fell on to the tracks!?
I've always wondered why we don't have the small
fences like the Japanese subway stations.
Sameer Vasta / September 17, 2008 at 03:54 pm
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Graham, I agree, you should definitely report about the treatment you received. Hopefully we can save it from happening to other people.

https://wx.toronto.ca/inter/ttc/feedback.nsf/icomplaint
Laurence / September 17, 2008 at 05:04 pm
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@kate I suggested to Adam G that they should use Twitter. Anybody in Transit Control can easily text something from their cell phone to Twitter. Sadly, he replied that they're focusing on their current strategy with using the website.

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