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York Graduate Arrested in Rape Duo Case: Does this Justify CCTV?

Posted by Chris Orbz / September 21, 2007

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The police released an announcement early yesterday that one arrest has been made in the case of the Sept 7th multiple sexual assaults at York University where two men gained access to the Vanier College residence, an off-limits area that is intended to remain locked to non-residents, sexually assaulting two women, attempting to attack a third and entering six different rooms. (Previously discussed in Rebecca's Take Back The What? post.)

Daniel Katsnelson, pictured above in a clip from a 2005 independent film he appeared in, turned himself in to police on the advice of his lawyer after getting word that he was being sought as a suspect. The 25-year-old was living in a Thornhill apartment with his grandparents, and while initial information did not elaborate on his connection to York, it's since been revealed that he is indeed a York business graduate.

Katsnelson is facing 11 charges: 5 counts of break and enter, 2 of sexual assault, 2 of gang sexual assault and 2 of forcible confinement. As his lawyer has recommended, he has made no statement and thus far does not intend to.

Personally, having previously been rather set against CCTV systems, the fact that their existence in this situation has managed to lead the police to a suspect and an arrest has gone a long way towards making me rethink my position. Prior to the arrest, I was saying that whether or not the hours of footage turned over to the police translated into an arrest would really strongly determine my opinion of the value of cameras, and, well, here we are.

I'm now forced to reconsider how I feel about CCTV - click through to watch me do exactly that.


Thus far, media investigations into his background have turned up fairly random tidbits, such as his role as 'Trey' in Kirill Kripak's film Elise (that's a Google cache page, as the original page and trailer have been taken offline) and his attempts to start an after-school sports program for children, but in my eyes none of this is really anything more than filling in news space while awaiting the release of more information.

While I am definitely interested in finding out more about this person as it might relate to the likelihood of him committing these very disturbing crimes, I know I'm in no position to judge this case based on his past habits of helping carry old lady's groceries home.

As a York student and long-time resident of the campus and area, I'm much more interested in how this fits into the context of the history of similar attacks and the problem of sexual assault that plagues campuses in general and seems particularly problematic at York. Can the successes seen in cracking this case be translated into methods of deterring similar attacks in future?

I've seen far too many cases of attacks in the past, and for the most part it has seemed as though our students are in the position of being sitting ducks, with rapists able to commit unspeakable crimes with relative impunity. Nothing seems to get beyond the release of painfully vague descriptions (man, six feet tall, baseball cap, possibly black or caucasian) and the best people can hope for is that the last attack won't be repeated on the decision of the rapist - frequently not the case.

In this case, the crimes were even worse than usual, the descriptions were once again totally useless, and the unusual nature of the tandem attacks suggested that there was a strong possibility of these two reoffending if it was clear they'd gotten away with it.

Rather abnormally, two weeks later this (alleged) soulless pervert scumbag is in police custody and that means the odds are good that his "buddy" will soon be as well. This is extremely relieving, considering last year's record: repeated rapes in the area of the Village townhomes just south of campus (seemingly by the same person) and a sexual assault later in the year on the northeast part of campus (a different attacker), with essentially no leads leading to no arrests.

Initially, the only significant response to the series of attacks in the Village came from students themselves, who began organizing escorts home and disseminating information through a Facebook group. While York focussed primarily on insisting that the barely-off-campus area, home to many students, was not their jurisdiction and was the exclusive concern of 31 Division, they did eventually expand the GoSafe free ride route.

After several attacks had occurred, the police released a composite drawing of a suspect, which served only to stir debate as many students complained that it was in many ways simply a generic drawing of a black man.

In those cases, the sense of the campus as a safe haven bubble which was not subject to the worst of the outside world was shattered and it seemed like little could be done about it beyond encouraging women to travel in groups and learn self-defense techniques. While I was as disappointed as most with York's response, knowing the area that the campus is located in, I know full well that an attempt by the administration to somehow ensure that no one off-campus would be victimized by the high crime rates of the surroundings would just be an exercise in futility and a demonstration of how little they could really do.

However, being someone who has spent plenty of time thinking about and discussing the continuing integration of security camera systems in public and semi-public spaces, I'd been quite aware of the location of all the cameras around the Vanier residence building. Unless the attackers were living in the same residence and didn't need to enter or leave the building to commit the attacks, there should've been no way for them to do it - except if the cameras that sit perched around the campus are, in fact, useless invasions of both our privacy and psychological sense of privacy.

The CCTV debate has come through blogTO before.

Those in favour, such as our Ryan Couldrey, argue that the notion of an invasion of privacy in a public space is nonsensical and seeking to protect it is protecting something that is non-existent to begin with.

Those against, such as the folks at Spacing, counter by saying the the cameras are poorly regulated, do not provide the returns they promise and an extrapolation on the trend of installing cameras leads us to a place where no space is able to be publicly-accessible without being government-controlled.


Up until now, I've placed myself in the second camp. Unsure what I was really giving up in terms of my privacy by being recorded going into a subway station or shopping mall, I nonetheless wasn't seeing anything particularly useful coming out of the presence of these cameras.

If they weren't doing us any good, then why were we subjecting ourselves to even the apparently minor invasion, along with the combined sense of false-security and distant paranoia any time an electric eye was pointed our way?

The key phrase being, "if they weren't doing us any good." Well, in this case they certainly didn't prevent these atrocious crimes, but they may very well have prevented these two from being involved in any future sexual assaults that don't involve much larger men and prison shower soap mishandling, and successful prosecution here may seriously dissuade any other twisted idiots from thinking they could pull off something similar.

Far less of a public space than Dundas Square, York's campus has always felt more like home to me than any of the other places I've resided, and so the fact that the cameras I previously regarded as pointless and creepy have actually managed to help the community fight back against such exploitation means a lot to me.

On a campus where security is widely known to have an official policy of being all bark and no bite, a campus that is populated by many moneyed and attractive students yet set in one of the city's hardest and most cutthroat ghettos, our student body has long since gotten horribly used to the idea that we are not and cannot expect to be safe here.

The fact that these cameras have done what nothing else has seemed able to do - to actually bring increased safety to one of the places I love most - has left me with a lot more respect for their potential and a lot more open to the idea of their installation and use.

What do you think? Am I giving up freedoms for a sense of security? Is this an example of what Naomi Klein has called The Shock Doctrine in action, with controls being imposed under the pretense of offering protection? Do these creepy cameras actually manage to serve the purpose they're purportedly installed for? And would Steve Mann-style distributed sousveillance be a better approach than institution-controlled surveillance?

Photos: Vidclip from Elise via the National Post, Police Camera Sign by sjgardiner from the blogTO Flickr pool, CCTV painting by Banksy.

Discussion

13 Comments

Ryan C. / September 21, 2007 at 04:28 pm
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"hose in favour, such as our Ryan Couldrey, argue that the notion of an invasion of privacy in a public space is nonsensical and seeking to protect it is protecting something that is non-existent to begin with."

Boo-Yaa! I'm famous!
Michael / September 21, 2007 at 04:44 pm
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I don't think you can argue against CCTV on private property. No one is forcing anyone to attend a university with CCTV. You would be consenting to cameras when you agree to be a student.

The tricky situation is with cameras in public space. Space we all own, and there is no implied consent.
Steven Chabot / September 21, 2007 at 07:31 pm
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Roper: "So now you give the Devil the benefit of law?"

More: "Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?"

Roper: "I'd cut down every tree in England to do that!"

More: "Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you ? where would you hide, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws from coast to coast...and if you cut them down ? and you're just the man to do it ? do you really think you could stand upright in the winds which would blow then? Yes, I give the devil benefit of the law for my own safety sake."

<i>A Man for All Seasons</i>
Eric S. Smith / September 21, 2007 at 07:58 pm
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<blockquote><i>I don't think you can argue against CCTV on private property.</i></blockquote><p>Well, one can argue against anything, but, more to the point, a University is a community with its more- and less-public spaces and is certainly the beneficiary of public funding. If nobody else, the members of the University community can argue for or against surveillance in their spaces just as much as we all can in more-obviously-public spaces.</p>
Ronkonkoma / September 21, 2007 at 08:46 pm
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The only people who'd argue against cameras on private property that they don't own (regardless of fees they pay to use) are people who have something to hide, or feel they might one day have something to hide. Like rapists.

Don't let yo mama tell you any different.
Tabish Bhimani / September 21, 2007 at 10:48 pm
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Hmm...I wonder if I can link this article to my blog?
Tabish Bhimani / September 21, 2007 at 10:51 pm
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oh and sorry, but btw, I agree on the description bit because my house don at winters college matches the exact description of one of the suspects and he said he's staying away from Vanier. But I think we might get an open forum to discuss whats going on as we have a right to know. Contact Chantall Joy for more information (look up her info at the york directory).
Chris Orbz / September 22, 2007 at 04:12 am
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"If you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" is a common line used in such situations. Alan Borovoy of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association once said, "If you have nothing to hide, you live a really boring life."

Rape, murder, robbery, burglary, etc is one thing... but what about, y'know, reefer? We're lucky in Toronto to have a police force that is sensible enough not to be actively hunting down pot smokers, so it's unlikely anyone will hear a knock on their door over a Yorkdale camera recording their doobage... but nonetheless, there are excruciatingly-well-established precedents for governments imposing controls that are not beneficial to the citizenry subjected to them, and CCTV can be wielded as a weapon as much as a tool.
Eric S. Smith / September 22, 2007 at 08:42 am
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<blockquote>Ronkonkoma: &hellip;<i>people who have something to hide, or feel they might one day have something to hide. Like rapists.</i></blockquote><p>Or witches.</p>
<p>Surveillance video will inevitably be archived. How else will you catch the <i>serial rapist</i> or <i>terrorist cell</i> or <i>loitering pedophile</i> or <i>coven of witches</i>? Digital storage is cheap, and you want that footage in computery form anyway to take advantage of advances in face and gait recognition, pattern analysis, and so on.</p><p>So one day I go class or the library or shopping for milk in a FREE KEVIN T-shirt, and then six months later <i>War Games</i> gets remade and there's an anti-hax0r flap and suddenly I'm getting stalked, tackled, and shot repeatedly in the head by <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&;c2coff=1&client=mozilla&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=%22jean+charles+de+menezes%22&btnG=Search">elite dumbshits</a>. Or you have a TAXATION IS THEFT shirt and then two years later the Evil Communists come to power and decide to persecute Randbots. Or the guy down the street with the Megadeth hat gets rounded up after a dirty-bomb scare.</p><p>But I couldn't possibly be making these arguments unless I were a prospective rapist, eh?</p>
Annnonn / September 22, 2007 at 10:25 pm
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Nobody gives a crap what else is going on it that video. Turns out the rapist comes from a good family,,,dresses well and is even good looking to a lot of women. The detectives were looking for a systematic pattern of behaviour that seemed unusual n the video and clearly narrowed in on the right guy as he turned himself in. The remainder of the video is irrelevant. If god forbid a murder were to happen on campus it would be nice to know a camera caught it right? They don't have camera's in class rooms or bathrooms or dorm rooms so i really dont see an invasion of privacy. Every elevator you ride in has one,,,very store you shop in has one,,,,every cab you ride in has one....there are cameras everywhere...why not keep our campus safe. Just don;t pick your nose in public stuges.
Kirill / September 23, 2007 at 11:13 pm
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"Thus far, media investigations into his background have turned up fairly random tidbits, such as his role as 'Trey' in Kirill Kripak's film Elise (that's a Google cache page, as the original page and trailer have been taken offline) and his attempts to start an after-school sports program for children, but in my eyes <b>none of this is really anything more than filling in news space while awaiting the release of more information</b>."

Thank-you. And the sooner people stop calling/emailing me asking about commenting about Danny the better. The wonders of the internet, eh?
helo / September 1, 2008 at 10:48 pm
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hey so what did this guy get?

I mean, that is a lot of charges against him... so he must have gotten like 3 or 5 years or something.
Abdali / January 18, 2010 at 09:42 pm
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These RAPISTS are getting so light - 3 years of prison, for the ENORMOUS CRIMES comitted on these INNOCENT victims. This shows HOW POOR the CANADIAN LAW is in protecting the DIGNITY of women - that too ATTACKED/MOLESTED/RAPED IN THEIR HOMES! It is incredible how the MEDIA IS SO TACIT in laying out these crimes! In INDIA (worlds largest democracy) these PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO DEATH (a very rare punishment)! It is mind boggling to read the way thestar has narrated this event - as if it is writing a story told in favour of the rapists! Canadians really need to wake up and change this media apathy!

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