Toronto Police and Chilean Soccer Players Brawl

<p>I was rooting for Argentina, but was absolutely incensed by the poor - or should I say, remarkably atrocioius - officiating during the match.&nbsp; The German ref should lose his job - not just suffer some kind of penalty - for that kind of performance, and if FIFA was smart, they&#39;d ban him from officiating in any FIFA-sanctioned event, ever.&nbsp; I mean, we all can get mad at refs, but he not only lost control of the match, but he took out his own frustrations (he clearly knew he made some mistakes but instead of taking them in stride, he decided to become more anal) on players, which is the worst thing a referee can ever do.</p><p>While I don&#39;t condone the behavior by the Chilean players, I can completely understand it.&nbsp; And in fact, even though I was rooting for Argentina and think they deserve to win the match, I really do hope FIFA considers listening to an appeal from Chile: the officiating turned what could have been the most exciting match of this tournament into one large joke.</p><p>I&#39;m sad that the tensions poured out after the match and the police had to get involved, and I agree that the Chilean players need to be held accountable for their actions after the match, but if there&#39;s anyone that needs to bear the brunt of the consequences, it&#39;s the German ref...if he actually knew how to do his job, none of this would have happened, even if Chile had eventually lost.</p><p>(Of course, FIFA won&#39;t be looking too favorably on Toronto after this whole incident, which is sad, because people were starting to look at TO as a great soccer haven in North America: after all, we just scored the MLS All-Star game in 2008, right?&nbsp; And we were one of the top contenders for the Women&#39;s World Cup as well.&nbsp; Looks like we might as well kiss that hope goodbye.)&nbsp;</p>

<p>Yes, one would hope Toronto police are exonerated and Chilean players blamed for the violence. That way Toronto would look better. But truth is, this is the same Toronto Police I&#39;ve seen myself chest-bumping a 50 something year old woman holding a protest sign in front of the American embassy.</p><p>Abusive behaviour and a petty display of whatever little power they have is vintage behaviour of the Toronto Police. They might as well walk around with a &quot;Hello, my name is: I have a big penis&quot; sticky on their chest, so they can finally understand that their job is to enforce the law -- and not go around trying to prove they are the law themselves.</p>

<p>I am a Chilean and the one thing that impressed me the most was the similarities between the behavior of TO Police yesterday and my memories of the police of Pinochet.</p><p>The Police where at the stadium in force and they can say anything that cross they imagination but I cannot believe that a small bunch of soccer players&nbsp;worn out after a very stressful game has the nerve to began a fist fight with a phallanx of huge (and armed) police officers. So, if there was a fight, where are the &quot;wounded&quot; police officers?, and, do you see the&nbsp;players from the team? they weight the half of every officer there. </p><p>I hope this dont cause any more troubles to the players and expect that our goverment or the soccer federation place a law suit against the officers that clearly enjoy themselves attacking kids and worst of all athletes compiting in a world tournament, Canada is the host and must respond to this very clear case of racism.</p>

<p>I do agree. Ref Stark was a disaster, leading Chilean players to the anger. FIFA, as always, will punish Chilean players but Stark will continue working. About Toronto police.......nothing to say....cowards do not deserve my comments.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class="Apple-style-span">Unfortunately, neither the Canadian nor Chilean media has any video of what actualy happened, just the aftermath. Hopefuly some fan with a cell phone managed to tape what happened. But, from all accounts the Chilean players were trying to go after the refs on the field after the game (not necessarily with violence in mind) and tempers were high. With angry fans outside, and the players trying to interact with them, the police likely had no idea what to expect. Canada isn&#39;t typically home to football riots, which can be very ugly. So this is likely why they used such harsh measures, not excusing it in any way. They had no idea what to expect. Likely there was some cause for their actions. If police behaviour in the entertainment distrcit is any indication, there must have been some serious need for force with the Chilean players. On a typical night in the entertainment district, police have to deal with thousands of drunken idiots and show remarkable restraint in these situations, focusing on breaking up and holding back fights rather than engaing themselves. I find it hard to believe that given the high publicity of the FIFA u-20&#39;s and how much Toronto wants to paint itself as a soccer city that the police would just randomly beat up players without due cause. Even then, none of the players were even hospitalized.?</span>

<p>im wondering if there are real videos of this incident , if you have links showing the brawl which i was told it went a lot more violent than the tv station videos are showing please post them. I think the Chilean team should do something&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;next&nbsp;match&nbsp;perhaps&nbsp;a&nbsp;moral&nbsp;protest&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;field&nbsp;leaving&nbsp;the&nbsp;match would&nbsp;&nbsp;certainly&nbsp;caught&nbsp;the&nbsp;eyes&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;world&nbsp;for&nbsp;sure&nbsp;then&nbsp;Canada&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;forced&nbsp;to&nbsp;
take&nbsp;the&nbsp;matter&nbsp;&nbsp;a lot &nbsp;more seriously&nbsp;&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;pressure&nbsp;a&nbsp;pacifist&nbsp;reaction&nbsp;like&nbsp;this&nbsp;would&nbsp;create&nbsp;exposing&nbsp;them&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;
much&nbsp;biger&nbsp;scale to deal with this situation</p>

<p>All the respect I had for Chile and its people went out the door after last night&#39;s debacle.&nbsp; Those soccer players were supposed to be ambassadors for their country, especially while on the biggest international stage in their lives.&nbsp; Yet they acted like a bunch of hooligans.&nbsp; First against the Argentinians, than against the foreign officiating crew and finally against Canadian law enforcement.&nbsp; There was no integrity, no civility and no excuse for their actions.&nbsp; They should be ashamed of themselves, but instead they want to blame everyone else for their own stupidity.&nbsp; Meanwhile, the coaching staff failed to instill any discipline in their players.&nbsp; You can only come back from a 1-0 deficit by scoring goals, not getting fouls. Instead of making excuses, the coach should have built a disciplined, respectful team and they might have won the game - or lose with diginity.&nbsp; But the worst has got to be the Chilean politicians, spurred on by their media, who are now&nbsp;filing formal complaint against the police.&nbsp; What values are you looking to instill in the youth with such actions, condoning the senseless actions of the players (remember, they fought with the opposing team, than the refs and than the authorities - they&nbsp;constantly sought&nbsp;one fight after another - they definitely were not looking to avoid a fight as these politicians, with their blinders on, would like everyone to believe).&nbsp; The politicians should have put their foot down, had the boys apologize for their actions and show respect for&nbsp;the fans, the&nbsp;host city, the police, FIFA and the game of soccer.&nbsp; But you need to have integrity and class to do something like that, and these purported ambassadors of Chile (players, coaches and politicians) are sorely lacking in that area.&nbsp; I look forward to&nbsp;the return of the days of great soccer,&nbsp;reminiscent of when&nbsp;I can see taped footage of matches from 20 plus years ago - when soccer players were men of honor, who would battle back from adversity, not with their fists or profanity, but with skill, determination and heart.&nbsp; For the sake of soccer, we need to find that greatness again, and it will most certainly not arise with the hooligans of Chile.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>

<p>If you&#39;ve been to Toronto, you know how diverse the city is. This isn&#39;t the southern US. Racism is not at play here. Especially not against Chilean players. The police were cracking down on what appeared to be a growing riot. Did they overreact? Possibly. But I&#39;m sure that the images of football/soccer riots that we&#39;ve seen in other countries were on their minds. That&#39;s not acceptable here.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>Marcelo likes to dream up worlds where there are beautiful football games and at the end everyone goes home for completos y pisco.&nbsp; Unfortuantely, this is not one of those fantasy worlds.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It&#39;s proven that soccer games get out of hand wayyyyy too often and TPS made sure that this did not happen here. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It&#39;s not a matter of size or strength.&nbsp; When people are amped on emotion they do stupid things (like disobey an armed officer).&nbsp;&nbsp; If you are (temporarily) that stupid then you might find the ugly end of a tazer. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Racism, lol, are you defending OJ?!&nbsp; Give me a break.&nbsp; TO is one of the more diverse cities in the world and while not impossible it&#39;s unlikely.&nbsp; It&#39;s easy to cry racism when you come from a city like Santiago where 98% of the people are Chilean (I and a few other gringos and asians make up the other 2% currently).&nbsp;</p>

<p>This whole incident is sad, but not particularly surprising.&nbsp; Soccer is renowned for its hooliganism, so it is not surprising that the police were ready for violence and stepped in quickly to stop it.&nbsp; In fact, they most likely stopped what could have become an even more violent and destructive (perhaps even murderous) rampage by stepping in early and arresting the perpetrators.&nbsp; As I read the calls of &quot;racism&quot; and &quot;police violence&quot; coming from some parties, it strikes me as being a complaint from people trying to cover up the embarassment of their team and their countrymen who simply could not handle a difficult situatoin with maturity.&nbsp; It is a GAME, people, and no matter even if the official kicked the ball in the net himself and called it a goal, you still should not physically attack him for it. </p>

<p>is it really that big a deal, is this going to cause rival soccer teams who battle it out in toronto and then thoughout canada? - you have two teams that take this game very seriously - you have horrible officiating - you have police involved, it&#39;s not a common occurance.&nbsp; <br /> </p><p>nothing good could come from this, that&#39;s obvious.&nbsp; it&#39;s not going to be happening again anytime soon.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Isn&#39;t this the same Chilean side involved in the embarrassment with Portugal?&nbsp; I don&#39;t think it is a coincidence that &quot;bad things&quot; happen to them.&nbsp; Portugal clearly over-reacted to the dive, but it was really pathetic:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO8-Ip_1xQE";>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO8-Ip_1xQE<;/a></p>

<p>Unless you were there, you know nothing of what happened between the cops and the players, you can&#39;t make any allegations of racism or abuse(nor can you dispute them), so best to shhhhhhhh</p><p>The Chileans should be ashamed of themselves for reacting the way they did, but I have to say, i agree with Sameer.&nbsp; I was pissed off just watching the game.<br /> </p><p>The Argentinians should be ashamed of themselves for once again lowering the the beautiful game into an Oscar worthy farce.&nbsp; They are very good football players, and don&#39;t need to dive.</p><p>FIFA should be ashamed of itself for allowing such an obviously inept official ruin a semi-final match.&nbsp; The official should be ashamed of himself for not correcting himself throughout the game, and allowing his own hubris to affect the game.</p><p>Diving is a South American &quot;style&quot; (So its defenders say), one that I find disgusting, but it will persist until FIFA actually SERIOUSLY decides to crack down on it.&nbsp; Personally, I would&#39;ve suspended about 15 players last night, from both teams.</p><p>The Chileans shouldn&#39;t have been THAT upset though, since they dove their way into the semi anyways.&nbsp; Karma&#39;s a bitch, and all that...&nbsp;</p><p>People that say the Chileans were overly violent during the game are only part right; they&#39;ve played that way throughout the tournament.&nbsp; They&#39;ve not been sanctioned like this before.&nbsp; So, how are they supposed to play the semi-final, when they&#39;ve been fine for 5 games previous?&nbsp; But perhaps the Police were out more in force for this game due to A)The expected heated rivalry between to South American teams and B) The fact that The last game Chile played ther was also a lot of violent nonsense?&nbsp; </p>

The Chilean team was angry long before the game ended and the police had already had to intervene on the field when they tried to confront the game officials.&nbsp; Soccer is known worldwide for its hooliganism and I commend the Toronto Police for stepping in quickly to put a lid on it.&nbsp; If the Chilean&#39;s had done what was asked of them, then nobody would have been hurt.&nbsp; They are guests in this country, ambassadors for their own and they failed miserably.&nbsp;

<p align="justify">John: loose respect for Chile and it&#39;s people? Come on, you think ALL chilean people are like that? I&#39;m not accusing anybody of racism. But to speak for a whole country? Isn&#39;t that a little bit too much?</p><p align="justify">If you knew of our violent history and how people here were repressed, murdered and tortured, and you said that you loose respect for this country because there&#39;s a 40% of people who still support what happened, I would agree with you, even though I&#39;m chilean, because even I can&#39;t understand that there&#39;s people who agree with infringement of human rights in any way, but not over a damn sport riot.</p><p align="justify">Another question, where you there? Or did you just saw what happened over what the media showed (chose to show) you? Do you REALLY know what happened?</p><p align="justify">Whatever happened, I don&#39;t condone it, either chilean players or Toronto Police. I think they both acted wrong. Normally one wrong act will lead to another on the other side. But your judgement John, just serves to tell how narrow minded you are, and also probably, how misinformed. &nbsp;</p>

<p>Perspective from someone who was not there, or did not speak to anyone who was there. &nbsp;</p><p>Firstly, I would assume that most if not all the Police were likely at the end of there shifts or on overtime, the last thing they would want is to have the game go longer or have a brawl break out. I&#39;m sure they would much rather be at home with there families than babysitting a bunch of &quot;whiny&quot; players...(yes thats right I called a soccer player whiny) ***I hope someone can correct my spelling of &quot;Whiny&quot;*** :)</p><p>&nbsp;Secondly, if the team had been from England, Germany, Italy, or&nbsp;anywhere else for that matter&nbsp;the Police would have reacted the same way, so there is no racism involved here. To say anything else is just ....foolish.</p><p>It seems to me that alot of people are looking to divert the blame from there &quot;beloved team and not look at the evidence....for example...how come the bus has broken windows????&nbsp; Why did the Police have to escort the ref off the field??? Where should the blame lie there? hmmm?</p><p>Last thought.... the Chilean players have been characterized as &quot;divers&quot; and &quot;complainers&quot;...perhaps these skills have some use off the field as well...especially when the press shows up to ask about their role in the brawl????</p><p>Maria-Jose99 has it right... Chile does deserve better, perhaps it is too much to ask a group of 18-20 year old boys to act like men. I am sorry that a great event such event is marred by such an ugly event.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

John, you are an IDIOT. Clearly, you have not been paying close attention to any of the Chilean games, throughout this tournament. You are a MORON when saying &quot;<strong>The Chileans shouldn&#39;t have been THAT upset though, since they dove their way into the semi anyways.&nbsp; Karma&#39;s a bitch, ...&quot; Chilean team members played beautifully. They trained hard to get to the semi finals. And, as to the Toronto police THEY SHOULD GO AND REINSTATE WHAT THE LAWS IN CANADA ARE. Clearly, they have no idea.</strong>

<p>Can&#39;t we have a civilized exchange of ideas without resorting to calling each other idiots? Clearly, John has overly generalized Chilean play, and Kathy has clearly&nbsp;has her Chilean rose coloured glasses on.&nbsp; I would not describe Chilean play as beautiful...but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.</p><p>&nbsp;One question Kathy, what the heck do you mean by &quot;they should go and reinstate what the laws in Canada are&quot;&nbsp; The Police do not make the laws, they enforce them. Please elaborate.&nbsp;</p>

<p><strong>is good to know the Chileans will persue legal action against the police with the top lawyers in town..a&nbsp;government&nbsp;can&nbsp;afford&nbsp;
that&nbsp; as all of this vanishes&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;wind..&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;</strong>not long ago i remember in the news when the cops use force against some poor women&nbsp;protestors&nbsp;in howard&nbsp;st.&nbsp;&nbsp;they complaint about exessive force but because&nbsp;they&nbsp;were&nbsp;poor&nbsp;,&nbsp;
a&nbsp;formal&nbsp;investigation&nbsp;would&nbsp;
never&nbsp;reach&nbsp;the&nbsp;light&nbsp;of&nbsp;
&nbsp;day.&nbsp;they&nbsp;wont&nbsp;be&nbsp;able&nbsp;
to&nbsp;cover&nbsp;their&nbsp;asses&nbsp;and&nbsp;
get&nbsp;away&nbsp;so&nbsp;easily&nbsp;with&nbsp;it for this one

<p>Problem with that video is that it doesn&#39;t really show much, let alone how it started.&nbsp; But his commentary is not very complimentary toward the Chilean players.&nbsp; It would seem they were looking for a fight and picked one with the only&nbsp; guys around that had sticks, pepper spray and a taser.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;Just a thought, if they were abused by the cops with sticks, and tasers, how come no one ended up in the hospital.&nbsp; Doesn&#39;t seem like anyone was beaten.</p>

<p>let me add to the hospital question seb....</p><p>If the chilean players caused such a riot on their own, and were &quot;at complete fault&quot;, like the canadian police claims...why weren&#39;t they arrested? why were they hand cuffed and let go?&nbsp; if you have someone committing such an infraction of the law...you would assume arrest and federal or local prosecution...how come such thing did not happen here? BECAUSE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CRIME COMMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE CHILEAN TEAM...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>another point i would like to add..</p><p>Why is it that the canadian government is now saying that there was a chilean player having a confrontation with an argentina player, but yet the argentinians are denying such confrontations? Once again...BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SUCH CONFRONTATION...Canada is just trying their hardest to lay blame on the chilean team...Im glad the chilean government is filling legal actions twd the TO police. no such thing would have happened in the United states....Unlike someone earlier had mention.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;All you canadians claim no racism in part of the TO people or what not...but yet here&#39;s a link showing you how during the canada vs chile game Canadians were telling chilean fans to go mow their grass...if thats not racism...then what can you call it? </p><p>Please canadians have nothing on one..As an AMerican i stand by chile 150%!!!!</p>

<p>why is this a racist issue????&nbsp; Where is the proof that this was racially motivated?&nbsp; I am so sick of hearing about every time someone is picked on by the Police, its because the Police are racist. Everytime some throws out the race card for something stupid like this it demeans the memory of people like Rosa Parks or the Japanese Canadians who were interned during WW2 who&nbsp;<strong>ACTUALLY</strong> faced racism. Please stop throwing out the race card and look at this issue for what it is, a series of bad decisions by a bunch of different people. As I mentioned above, if these players were English or Italian or German the Police would have reacted exactly the same way. So please please stop saying this was a racial bias issue.</p><p>&nbsp;And, Kino I dont now where your from but this is not brutal...why dont you go to Darfur or Afganastan or Iraq and see what people do to other people there and then come back and tell me that this was brutal. No went to the hospital, no one died, no one suffered grevious bodily harm, I haven&#39;t even seen footage of any blood, so why is it brutal?</p><p>Kino, Of course people in Chile are saying that, they can&#39;t come to terms with the fact that their team put in a sub par performance and did not have the character to overcome a one goal deficit and a questionable referee. They fell apart and gave up. </p><p>And then they got in a fight with Police, trashed their bus, got tasered and got arrested. The players embarrassed themselves on the field and off.&nbsp; They should be apologizing to their fans back home and the fans of soccer everywhere. Time will tell if they have the character&nbsp;off the field they did not show on the field.</p><p>Just another thought about Soccer players, isn&#39;t this the sport where if someone trips them they fall down like they have been shot. Roll around on the ground in apparent life ending agony, only to pop up with a smile once the ref shows the red card to the offending player?&nbsp; Perhaps this very same tactic is being played out off the field?</p><p>Just food for thought.....feedback please&nbsp;</p>

<p>The referee was absolutely terrible.&nbsp; I can understand the Chilean players&#39; frustration.</p><p>But the way they acted out their frustration was pathetic and not worthy of sportsmen.&nbsp; Anyone who has played ice hockey knows that there is a constant game of trying to upset your opponent, and the opponent who loses his temper and acts out is the one who is an idiot and gets a penalty.</p><p>If the Chilean players cannot control their tempers they should not have been representing their country.&nbsp; Period. &nbsp; I mean, putting your hand on the referee?&nbsp; Pouring out of the bus to take on the police?&nbsp; I had lost all the respect I had for the Chilean team when I saw how they reacted to the adversity of the terrible refereeing.&nbsp;</p><p>Hearing about their behaviour after the game just makes it worse.&nbsp; If you are a sportsman, you need to be able to not get into fights. </p>

<p>There will be a full and proper investigation into this affair.&nbsp; As soon as the police are done investigating themselves they will, as usual, find that everything they did was proper.&nbsp; They did nothing wrong.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp;Funny when the police invetigate themselves it turns out they they did no wrong.&nbsp; They are batting 1000 in Canada so far.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; Even when people die here and the police explaination involves a contortion that even the most double jointed entertainer would be proud of it appears that THEY DO NO WRONG..</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>Jeffery...if you tell a jew he&#39;s cheap ur being racist and discriminating...if you call a black person a nigger ur racist...if u call white people hicks...ur also racis....if u tella spanish person to mow ur lawn..guess wut...ur being dicriminating and stereotipical</p><p>who said anything about canadians at the chile vs argentina game...link was of chile vs canada game...im guessing you havent seen it...hmmm</p><p>my point was that someone earlier had said canadians are in no way racist. NOW, watch the video and tell me what was said to a hispanic??</p><p>And to answer your questions...i would take the LAPD...atleast i know THEY are doign their jobs</p><p>So basically you are telling me...the TO police could have arrested and detained the chilean players...but obted to be nice people and not do so? But now they are getting criticized for their violence...yeah right!&amp;nbsp; </p><p>Lay charges and do the right thing(get praised by the press) or be a good guy and let them go(facing possible blame for their actions)?? Hmmmmm sounds like a hard decision...Give me a break...</p>

The 19 and 20 year old Chilean players&nbsp;aren&#39;t children as their press might try to pass them off as. They acted as children. They started the mess with the police knowing full well the reaction they would provoke. It&#39;s really hard to admire someone&nbsp;for stirring the pot&nbsp;when all they do is whine after they get the reaction they were looking for. If you can&#39;t handle the result don&#39;t be the cause. As soon as the comparison attempt between the police action and Pinochet&#39;s rule is thrown in you start to see third world political&nbsp;propaganda in action. All we can hope for is that the intelligence of the Chilean people will see through their media facade.

<p>I agree and disagreee with you <em>SEB, </em>there was definitely alot of political pushing and pulling. I am sure cell phones were ringing all over the place in Ottawa and Santigo.&nbsp; The Police are the tool of the politicians and they were told to release the players I am sure.&nbsp; The Consul from Chile got his way, most likey because he was there in person watching the game.&nbsp; Where I disagree is that this will never amount to anything here in Toronto.&nbsp; No Policemen will lose there jobs, no Politician will not get re-elected, the Canadian Government will say all the right things to make the Chileans happy, I&#39;m sure there will be some symbolic ass kissing gesture and that will be that.&nbsp; Done</p><p>Its not even the top story on the Toronto news websites anymore.</p><p>Some English boy wizards book comes out today,&nbsp; two people were killed by a train and the Blue Jays lost to Seattle...thats the lead stories now</p>

<p>The Chilean soccer players (and the fans egging them on) should remember that soccer brawls and riots are not a part of our culture, and aren&#39;t about to be anytime soon. It&#39;s simply not done. Get over it, for you own sake, or go to Chile to cheer on your team, where that kind of behaviour is acceptable.</p><p>&nbsp;I would like to congratulate the Toronto Police for dealing adequately with what could have been a very violent situation.&nbsp;</p><p>These Chilean soccer players&nbsp;acted like sore losers on the field during the game, and were obviously still furious by the time they left the stadium. We all see what happens during these games in South America, Europe and Asia, when the players incite their fans to indulge in all kinds of impulsive, moronic behaviour and people end up dying, all for a game.</p><p>If any of you want to live in a place where idiotic international athletes are allowed to create havoc, then move to Santiago or Buenos Aires. But don&#39;t take it out on T.O. cops. As for the racism charges against the police, get real and educate yourself. Most of the T.O. force is non-white. Coming from a&nbsp;relatively white, homogeneous nation like Chile (compared to other South American countries),&nbsp;that criticism is&nbsp;hilarious.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<p><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial">This game Chile Vs Argentina, was suppose to be the best game ever in this tournament.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We wanted to see a good game not matter whom the winner will be.&nbsp; But all this was destroyed by a referee who was an incompetent or was done on purpose, myself<span>&nbsp; </span>I think was done on purpose.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Argentina,can not be proud to win a game this way,but they are,they have excellent players and not need for faking fouls.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>The first red card<span>&nbsp; </span>should have been for both players (started by the argentinian player )<span>&nbsp; </span>or a yellow card.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Whom do I blame,the FIFA for bring in this referee,<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>About the Police,they over reacted and<span>&nbsp; </span>hopefully an investigation will<span>&nbsp; </span>help to clear up things.</span></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>Very nicely put Pat,</p><p>&nbsp;as a Canadian I would like to be known as a &quot;t-shirt wearing, cottage going, beer drinking, hockey fan&quot; and for whats its worth I worked landscaping all summer one year to put myself thru school. I cut grass everyday that summer, I also cut grass at least once a week still. </p><p>I had a Peruvian friend describe to me &quot;South American&quot; style of football, she said its full of &quot;diving&quot; and &quot;theatrics&quot; (her words). So, the Chilean team got through to this game using this style without facing another team using the same style. The Argentinians are just better at it then the Chileans, the young men from Chile got upset and lost their cool.&nbsp; They got behind a goal and fell apart.&nbsp; A true champion overcomes adversity, they don&#39;t bitch and complain about it.</p><p>I think it is becoming more and more evident that the Chilean U-20 team screwed up and gave the tournament, their country, the sport and themselves a black eye. What makes it worse is trying to blame the Police and label them racists lacks class and character. </p><p>A true champion displayes grace and class in victory as well as in defeat.&nbsp; They take the blame when they lose and accept praise with humility in victory. The Chileans are not&nbsp;champions,&nbsp;just sore losers.</p><p>Most I&#39;ve talked too really think that the Chilean team were responsable for everything and the reaction from the Chilean Government is way overblown. Personally, I think FIFA should disqualify the Chileans and not let them play the Consolation game. Maybe that would teach them how to behave at an International Tournament.</p>

<p>I find unbelievable that some people from Chile are making analogies between Pinochet&#39;s regimen and Canada. </p><p>The &quot;kids&quot; from the Chilean team were frustrated, went after the referee, got in a fight with an Argentinian fan and to be restrained. We are supposed to believe that what followed next was only the result of a player trying to give autographs? Because of their bad behavior as sore losers, they were told to get in the bus and stay there. Somebody decided to be macho and show the police that he would do otherwise and got in trouble. What the other players do? Get off the bus to confront the police and threw things at them. </p><p>Chile has a significant history of violence during soccer games to the point that decent people were stopping to attend the games (see BBC site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_football/3583913.stm).</p><p>Other teams have lost in important competitions and the referees had made mistakes. This is no reason to behave&nbsp; like that. The U20 Chilean team should be banned from international competitions and their federation fined. </p>

<p>Fact:&nbsp; FIFA has had some well officiated games&nbsp;during this U-20 tournament, minus a handful of games that were evidently biased and very poorly officiated.</p><p>Fact: The chilean/argentina semi-final was one of these poorly officiated and biased games.&nbsp; I don&#39;t think any honorable person&nbsp;will dispute this...</p><p>Fact: The argentinian futbol team was putting on quite the act and embelshing every challenge, knowing the officiating was biased towards their cinema.</p><p>Fact:&nbsp; The chilean delegation played with heart,&nbsp;courage and determination.. but while trying to overcome these challanges in their path, these young men lost their composure.&nbsp; They should have turned their backs, sucked it in and continued on with an entire&nbsp;nation rallying behind them.&nbsp; Immaturity and frustration did this team in.</p><p>&nbsp;Fact:&nbsp; The chilean delegation were boarding the bus.&nbsp; As has been the case in each city they&#39;ve played in,&nbsp;some players went to acknowledge their fans.</p><p>I find it hard to believe that as the police claim, that there was a single rival fan in the midst of hundreds of chileans, to which this player went to confront - - with a fence in between them - - which required the police to use such drastic force.. I would like to know who the interpretor was that translated the exchanges between persons who didn&#39;t speak english, to which they came to their determination.</p><p>Fact:&nbsp; As we&#39;ve recently seen, politicians and our police forces are not the most honest of people, and are in some cases more corrupt than what you&#39;d expect from a hardened criminal.&nbsp; You&#39;ll have to excuse me if I don&#39;t jump at the first explanation/excuse they provide.. which is contrary to eye witness accounts.</p><p>&nbsp;Fact:&nbsp; Argentina is a skilled team, that put 3 balls into the net to Chil&eacute;&#39;s zero.. with each displaying varying degrees of outstanding play by the club.</p><p>Argentina will represent South America as this years U-20 champion.. </p>

<p>As a chilean I&#39;m going to stand behind the Toronto Police Departmen.Yes I mean it. Because there is no way that someone is going to make me stand enfront of such as <font size="2">narrow-minded and <strong>despecab</strong></font> kind of &quot;barbarians&quot;.</p><p><font size="2">&quot;<strong>Barbarian</strong>&quot; is a pejorative term for an uncivilized, uncultured person, either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos perceived as having an inferior level of civilization, or in an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, insensitive person whose behaviour is unacceptable in the society of the speaker.&quot;</font></p>

<p>It is amazing how many people have NO IDEA&nbsp;of what happened and completely back one side or the other. Some even speak of Racisim, is it not if you yourselves back one side over the other without nowing the facts and just jumoping onto thier side.</p><p>Let&#39;s see we have ticked off young male soccer players, and Yes the Ref was bad, who just lost 3 to ZERO, embarassing ya think?, coming off the field. Then we have Police Officers standing by told to &quot;Keep The Peace&quot;. Well do you think MAYBE, just Maybe the soccer players may have went off and THEN the Police stepped in. I think that is a logical look at what info is available.</p><p>Is it right on Soccer pl;ayers end, NO, are the Police at fault, I don&#39;t know, but we have systems in place to invetigate and get further into. But I am sooooo sick of people saying the poor Kids... They are 19 and 20 friken years old, they are men</p>

The worst blind person,is the one who doesn&#39;t want to see.....It is incredible the prejudice of some people.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I thought&nbsp; the majority of the readers for this paper,belong to a more intelectual or intelligents people,for sure I was mistaken.....

<p>Manolo - just explain why you side with the Chileans... that&#39;s all.&nbsp;</p>

<p>Natalia - either you are an absolute idiot, or you think the rest of the world are. I had to laugh out loud at your comment saying &quot;what is wrong with a couple of Chilean players getting off the bus to sign autographs?&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;What, through the window? And I suppose they thought they&#39;d be signing lots of autographs, which is why they ripped the seats out of the coach as well.</p><p>&nbsp;What an arsehole you are, Natalia. The Chilean players tried to harass the referee (who probably deserved facing a few questions to be fair), the cops escorted the officials off the field, then some Argentinian shout abuse at the Chilean team, again the players are stopped from attacking the opposition fans so they take it out on the cops. </p><p>&nbsp;I&#39;m not a cop myself, but I can tell you this - if a coachload of people come charging at me intent on doing me harm and I&#39;m armed,&nbsp;they&#39;re going down.</p><p>The rest of your posting is just a load of racist bollocks directed at the Canadian people. Perhaps FIFA should ban Chile from taking part in further events until they have demonstrated they have grown up and can accept defeat with good grace. </p>

<p style="__styledocument: [object]" align="justify">Go to Google and type in &quot;Toronto Police Brutality&quot;. You get 404,000 results! I was born in Canada and it has long been known that the Toronto police force has more than it&#39;s share of goons. The Chilean soccer team and the country of Chile deserve an apology. I am a regular visitor to Chile with many friends and relatives there and this is a huge story there. Unfortunately Chileans are not being told that the Toronto police did this to their soccer team but the CANADIAN police did this. In other words all of Canada and all Canadians are to blame. When I go to Chile I am always proud to say I am a Canadian. From now on I won&#39;t be so eager to say I am from Canada. Thank you very much Toronto police. You blew it. BIG TIME!!</p>

<p>Hey Larry - if Google his is supposed to be indicative of truth, type in &#39;Pigs Fly Toronto&#39; into google, and you get 777,000 hits. So by your logic, not only to pigs fly in Toronto, but there&#39;s a greater chance for pigs flying in Toronto than there is of police brutality in Toronto.</p><p>Anf Franco -so now you&#39;re saying we suppress the press here? We&#39;re not only insanely violent, but also racist, xenohobes, and censors? Wow, decades of a contry displaying just the opposity ruined by what a few 19 and 20 year olds said in order to avoid getting in trouble! Incredible!</p><p>And for the last time, please PLEASE <strong>PLEASE</strong> can a Chilean PLEASE tell me where the marks are? Where are the injuries? Why, if the police were so brutal WHY ARE THERE NO MARKS! If the are marks POST A LINK TO A PHOTO! I mean, here you are critisizing Canada, because soccer players said that they were mistreated! No marks, no video, no photo, no nothing. Do the Chilean soccer players have super duper healing powers? In a few weeks are they going to DESCRIBE their various injuries? At that point, are you going to say SEE! SEE HOW THEY GOT INJURED? THAT SOCCER PLAYER JUST SAID THAT HE HAD HORRIBLE WELTS AND BRUISES THAT HAVE SINCE HEALED, OF COURSE.&nbsp;</p><p>What I&#39;m looking for is discourse, rather than a bunch of Chilean supporting posts saying nothing more that &#39;you are horrible for beating my little boys&#39;. PLEASE ANSWER ME CHILE PEOPLE.&nbsp;</p>

Canada welcomes people from all nations every day. If you plan on making Canada your destination of choice no matter if it be for competative sport or leisure, then you should abide by our laws and act appropriately. Just because you act in a certain mannor which does not constitute a breach of the peace in your home country, does not mean you can come to Canada and commit a breach of the peace and be free from legal consequences. Committing such an act is an offence in this country!! I am not a police officer and I do not have any family serving as such, but I am a native Canadian. I do understand my culture and the fact that if I where to commit a breach of the peace or act in a disorderly manor in any way or form, I know that I may be arrested by police in order for them to restore order and prevent any roitous behavior. I say thank you Toronto Police. I am sure that post investigation results will prove that the Toronto Police had acted within the execution of there duties and that the incident was dealt with integrity and professionalism . come on people, these soccer games are always an issue every year in every country. It could have been alot worse. As for those who blame the police. take a look at yourselves and take blame for your own actions. At least this will set the example that our laws will be enforced no matter where you come from or whoever may break them. A big thanks to Toronto Police

<p>I thought the German referee did his best to keep the game under control. It&#39;s unfortunate that both teams provided the referee with so many opportunities to flash his cards. I blame the players. Both teams have a terrible history of bad behavior during matches. The whole region does, Uruguay included. As far as the brawl goes, when you&#39;re told to stay on the bus so that the police can&nbsp;maintain order in the aftermath of a&nbsp;overly-emotional Latin American soccer match; STAY ON THE BUS! Intentionally mess with the police and they will mess with you; and have the right to do so! The Chileans only embarrassed themselves and their country. They made poor choices.&nbsp;</p>

<p style="__styledocument: [object]" align="justify">To amend my above post I should have said Hey PAT thanks for your educated comment&nbsp; man. Yeah, really enlightening! Oh and Jerrold I&#39;m glad I was able to provide a service and give you a laugh. Funny though I wonder why no one else (except maybe Pat) is laughing. Oh and Pat I don&#39;t know what media you have been looking at but the wounds from the tasers were shown on several newscasts.&nbsp; Oh and finally just because I am a Canadian doesn&#39;t mean I have to accept and excuse everything that happens in Canada. That&#39;s the beauty of this country. Unlike a lot of places in the world we are allowed to question and criticise what &quot;the authorities&quot; do. It doesn&#39;t make me any less of a Canadian. And jeronimi, if there is an investigation of the police (and that&#39;s a big if)&nbsp; of course they will be found blameless. Why? Because as has happened in so many other cases guess who will be conducting the investigation. You got it -THE POLICE! That&#39;s right the usual procedure in these type of cases is the police investigate themselves. Don&#39;t believe me? Do some research. Anyway it&#39;s all a real mess and a bloody shame. This tournament for the most part was great&nbsp; and all the players on all the teams are great people, wonderful representatives of their countries.</p>

Hi Pat. Thanks for calling yourself a jerk. It saved me the trouble. You can call Chileans stupid if you want but if you really want to know what they are like why don&#39;t you scrape up a few bucks and actually go to Chile. Air Canada flies Toronto-Santiago non-stop every day. I guarantee you will meet some of the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. I am a Canadian born and raised but I believe that Canadians could learn a lot about how to treat other people from what you call or at least infer are &quot;stupid Chileans&quot;. And you know what, if it is really true that &quot;Stupid Chileans&quot; returned more hits than &quot;Smart Chileans&quot; then that just proves my point. People in general (at least those that post on the internet) are prejudiced or don&#39;t like Chileans. I don&#39;t understand why I guess it&#39;s just ignorance and people not looking beyond their own little world. Like I said, and I mean this quite seriously, go to Chile for a holiday. You will be welcomed with open arms.

<p>I saw many photos, videos and eyewitness reports that support the Chilean Team version. But i&#39;m still seeking any photo, video or eyewitness report of the Argentine fan,&nbsp; that support the Toronto Police version. Why? He exist?. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p> And, if the second version is true, why an Argentine fan is near of the Chilean Team bus or players while the Chilean team fans are in the fence?. That is a huge security error.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

I haven&#39;t seen a single photo or video that shows the use of excessive force used by anyone.&nbsp; Please post links.

Also, please note that most of these people supporting the Chileans are actually posting FROM Chile.&nbsp; They couldn&#39;t be more far removed from whats going on.&nbsp; Don&#39;t hold it against them, they;re just mad and supporting their guys.<br />

<p>After reading so much uneducated comments from several people who clearly did not attend the game or saw the altrecation that took place, I feel I should leave my comments here.</p><p>First and Foremost for those of you who actually saw the game , you clearly know that the game itself was a dissapointment. In my history of watching soccer games and belive me&nbsp;ive seen my share.. I have never seen such biased referreing in any game.</p><p>with regards to the altrecation that took place after, my comment is this:</p><p>&nbsp; I was at the fence with my parents cheering and video taping this. you can clearly see the aggression being used by the police.&nbsp; One player was even pepper sprayed in his face... another player was electrecuted twice and fainted ...one officer unloaded pepper spray in the bus and then locked it from outside and you could see that the players were clearly not able to breathe and desperately trying to open the door and windows. No one told me this nor did i read this in any article.&nbsp; I SAW THIS WITH MY OWN EYES&nbsp;.</p><p>&nbsp;I have made a copy of our video and was handed over to TV Chile as proof of the unessessary agression that took place.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am very saddened about what happened but while many of you may not know.. it had nothing to do with a rival player or fans, as Argetinian players and&nbsp; fans&nbsp;had left the stadium a long time ago.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;I have lived in Canada my whole life and consider myself a proud Canadian.. but &nbsp;I must say that I am&nbsp; very dissapointed at the unnesessary agression that the police used against the players.&nbsp; One other very important factor is the language barrier.&nbsp; Many of the Chilean soccer players did not understand the English language and Most if not all the officers there did not understand Spanish as they repeatedly asked what the fans were chanting. It would have been totally different had they had someone with the chilean team to translate.</p><p>My final word is this : If you did not attend the game or you did not see the altrecation with your own eyes,&nbsp;you&nbsp;cannot make assumptions of what&nbsp;took place.&nbsp;</p><p>I</p>

<p>Josselyn and Oscar,</p><p>I have faith in the Toronto police and the truth of the masses - if what Jocelyn said happened was, in fact, what was true, we all (via CBC, CTV, Global, Toronto Star, etc etc etc) would know about it. There is absolutely no doubt that there is NOT a massive cover up by all Canadian media outlets. Oscar, did you just say that the journalists were censored? You do know you&#39;re talking about Canada. That just does not happen in Canada! We love to critisize the police/the government/the wealthy/anyone with power and authority whenever possible. And the aforementioned media outlets would love to find the condescending voice, the video proof, the eyewitness accounts, and yet none have! And the Chileans (govt/media/people/soccer players) are DYING to vilify the Canadian police, but the video you made, that you handed over, they what? Decided not to release it? Why not?</p><p>Also, Josselyn, I&#39;m going to assume you didn&#39;t make a copy of your video so you could post it online? Naw, naw, of course you didn&#39;t. So all you really have is all the Chilean supporters ever have... the reason of &#39;because I said so&#39;. </p><p>So again, for the umpteenth time, please provide a link or a video of whatever proof, no matter how minute, you have that the Toronto Police used excessive force. Because the longer it gets, the closer it gets to you guys saying that the soccer players&#39; wounds healed. A claim you&#39;ll get to eventually, I have no doubt. </p><p>Lastly, I have to say that it&#39;s rediculous to classify posts that support the TO Police and casts doubt on the claims made by the Chile soccer players as &#39;uneducated&#39;. As far as I know, it&#39;s educated to deduce, and seeing as THERE IS NO ACTUAL PHYSICAL EVIDENCE&nbsp; to support either claim, we ave only deduction. And the educated deduction says that the Police are right and the Chilean soccer team are not.</p><p>Please don&#39;t respond with: &#39;I said so&#39;, &#39;they said so&#39;, &#39;I saw&#39;, I saw&#39;. Please give me a reason to believe that the Chilean soccer team is right.&nbsp;</p><p>Oh, and a last final: this has nothing to do with the soccer game, except for the fact that the soccer game was what put the Chilean soccer team in an angry and aggressive state. So in mentioning the soccer game and how poorly officiated it was, you&#39;re actually making an excuse as to why the Chilean soccer team would be angry outside the stadium, and thus would be more likely to get in a scrap. </p><p>Any yes, it was a horribly officiated game, but it&#39;s a symptom of soccer now.&nbsp;</p>

If someone wants to talk about censorship you should contact &quot;CNN en espa&ntilde;ol&quot;&nbsp; (I think he is Colombian) journalist who reported the events that night. In his first live dispatch he clearly described how a chilean player that was walking by the bus - in his words - got shocked with electricity and when he wanted to take pictures the guards and police forbid him to do it and he went on pointing out that a policeman threatened him to withold his press credentials.&nbsp;

<p>Sorry my english is rusty.&nbsp; What I meant by &quot;hes was forbidden to take pictures&quot; was in reference to the&nbsp; journalist.&nbsp; If you want evidence take a look at <a href="http://www.elcorreo.ca/elcorreo/story.php?story_id=4114";>www.elcorreo.ca/elcorreo/story.php?story_id=4114</a>&nbsp;Freddy Velez is a Colombian reporter of Correo Canadiense a Multicommedia publication.&nbsp; If any of you doesn&#39;t speak spanish please ask an spanish speaking person (not chilean) to translate.&nbsp; You don&#39;t need further investigation, just read.&nbsp; I rest my case.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>HAHAHAHA what do you say now, you bunch of goddamn sycophants?&nbsp; Now that your team has freely admitted to punching a female police officer in the face, and thats what started the brawl?</p>Read it and weep, suckers.<br />

I just watched with disgust the press conference that the TO police gave concerning their &quot;investigation&quot; of what happened.? Surprise, surprise, they did nothing wrong.? Would anyone expect a different outcome when cops investigate themselves?? I really liked his &quot;independent&quot; witnesses. All security officials and cops. Nice. BTW, to the jackass who said the chilean team admitted to punching a female cop and that this is what started the whole thing, you&#39;re...um...wrong. The chilean team has said nothing of the sort. I think you&#39;re quoting the TO chief of police.?<div><br /></div><div>And they are still peddling the ridiculous story that they were just trying to break up a fight between players and some mysterious Argentine fan. I find this version far fetched for various reasons, chief among them that security around the chileans was tight, and I find it tough to swallow that security would somehow have let the players reach this &quot;fan&quot; or vice versa and THEN stepped in to break it up. Utter garbage, when you consider that the players were not even being allowed to approach their own fans. And I can assure you that the VAST majority of fans around the chilean team bus were supporters. An argentinian tryiing to start something with the players would have been jumped long before a player got to him, trust me. If their version is true, then they failed utterly in the job they were given, put the players and chilean federation officials at risk, and at are best incredibly incompetent. I think they&#39;re lying. And where is this mysterious fan, so he can step forward and clear everything up? It&#39;s BS. As for the free for all, well, there&#39;s some other issues. The players were tiny. I mean short and skinny, most not even half the size of those cops. I cannot fathom that a group of &quot;highly trained&quot; officers of the size of most of those cops couldn&#39;t control a few of these players, some of whom had just run for 90 minutes, without resorting to punches, kicks, tasers and pepper spray. That is the reaction of someone who has no clue how to get a grip on the situation, and goes with the last resort option as the first. I can only imagine what TO police would do when faced with a real riot involving hundreds of people. Would they shoot into the crowd, and then say they used &quot;appropriate&quot; force? Of course, if this happened, there would still be the same morons here bleating about how the crowd &quot;had it coming&quot; and &quot;fully supporting TO&#39;s finest.&quot;<div>&nbsp; ? ?Finally, to the pinhead that keeps asking for video, maybe you should ask the cops why they were putting their hands in front of camera lenses, keeping the press away from the scene, and confiscating equipment. Hard to get good video like that. BTW, there is plenty of video showing bruising and taser marks. The blood on some of the players&#39; faces had been cleaned by the time the press had access to them, but these are no small things, unless you&#39;ve never been tasered. People have DIED from being tasered. Maybe you can show me video of the poor officers and the injuries THEY recieved. Good luck. No, this smacks of a punchfest by nervous cops and security, who had no idea what they were doing, and were all too eager to lay some hurt on someone a whole lot weaker. Disturbingly, the TO police are not new to this scenario.?</div><div><br /></div><div>The chilean team did what any other team would do when seeing one of their own being stomped on, by cops or anyone else. They went to defend their teamates. I would not expect any less from our own teams in such a situation. If our junior hockey team were involved in a fracas with police in Russia, let&#39;s say, I would hardly expect the rest of the team to board the bus and sit there watching while some of their teamates were being punched and kicked by Russian cops. I&#39;m sure if they did they would be thought of as cowards. And Canada would surely believe our player&#39;s version of events, and would ask the Russians WTF happened.?</div><div><br /></div><div>In TO, who &quot;started it&quot; is hardly relevant, and I would suggest that there will be no light shed on that issue. What is relevant is how the police reacted and handled the situation. No one has come forth with a convincing reason, in my eyes, why this incident was allowed to escalate into a brawl by so-called &quot;trainded professionals&quot;. Apparently, the training didn&#39;t include common sense, good judgement, or submission holds, for that matter.</div></div>

<p>Jerrold:</p><p>This was not an &quot;investigation&quot; as much as a whitewash, whose outcome was a surprise to no one. I&#39;m sure if the chilean players were to hold their own investigation, the results would be a little different. This is why an independent investigation is needed. There was nothing &quot;clear&quot; about this investigation, as I pointed out earlier, and if the reporters at the press conference had asked Blair some intelligent questions, instead of buying into a ridiculous version of events with more holes in it than a sieve, Blair might have had an uncomfortable time. As it is, he had a free ride there, and is getting one here from people like you. Do you honestly believe it is correct for one of the parties involved to investigate their own conduct in this type of&nbsp; matter? That is absurd. The BC case comes to mind, when a man in handcuffs, who had done nothing&nbsp;but have his beer open in a public area and had never been in trouble before,&nbsp;winds up dead from a shot to the back of the head while in police custody. The police investigated themselves and, lo and behold, found that they had done &quot;nothing wrong&quot;.&nbsp;So spare me the &quot;clearly the chileans did this..&quot; and&nbsp;&quot;clearly the chileans did that..&quot; nonsense. There is nothing clear about this.&nbsp;</p>

Also, sorry for the typos... I&#39;m going to somehow blame this site. Not sure how, but it&#39;s definitely the site.

the chileans got beat by the argentinians, beat by the police and beat by the argentinians.&nbsp; did i say beat by the argentinians?&nbsp; lol.&nbsp; two crybaby nations playing sucky soccer and falling down crying at every opportunity.&nbsp; if the chileans had any class they, well, they wouldn&#39;y be chileans now would they.&nbsp; glad you&#39;ve gone home.&nbsp; stay there.

Yo considero que la polic?a de Canad? fue claramente agresiva y racista en contra del seleccionado de Chile ?Por qu?? Porque esta actitud cobarde de golpear a los jugadores de f?tbol jam?s la habr?an hecho en contra de una selecci?n de USA , Alemania, Inglaterra o Francia. Pero s? se le hizo a un pa?s m?s peque?o y de menos peso como Chile.
Me parece muy feo que de esta forma se act?e en un pa?s que dice ser del primer mundo. Yo jam?s he visto que la polic?a trate a un deportista de esa forma en mi pa?s, Chile.
Ojal? los polic?as responsables paguen por lo que hicieron.

Manuel, usted es verdad rid?culo e ignorante de los hechos. Tambi?n, excuse por favor mi espa?ol... ?l es una traducci?n de los pescados de Babel.

Ademas cuando golpearon a los jugadores de Chile, los policias impidieron a los periodistas poder grabar las lamentables escenas. No solo fueron golpeados los jugadores, tambien fueron golpeados los dirigentes chilenos incluyendo a Harold Mayne-Nicholls, presidente del futbol chileno y dirigente de la FIFA. En un diario, chileno Mayne-Nicholls dijo que tambien lo golpearon con palos y que los policias se burlaban de los chilenos mientras les pegaban

Ninguno de los jugadores de Chile ha dicho que ha golpeado a un policia. La policia de Toronto se dedico a golpear a muchachos indefensos como los chilenos. La policia de Toronto para justificar su salvajismo y brutalidad ha inventado una serie de mentiras diciendo que Chile golpeo a un policia. Eso demuestra que aparte de racistas son mentirosos.

Firstly to the comments stating that Toronto police are racists and cowards : Since when is Chilean a race? and whats cowardly is an 18 year old man not "boy" striking a female officer and don't try to deny it, it was confirmed by both sides that it did happen including of the Chilean teammates.

Secondly, to those pointing out the fact that the Toronto police made a show of force: The whole purpose of police is to "enforce" compliance to the law and peace, "force" being the root of that word. Sure, police forces all over the world have the select few who choose to abuse their power however to state that Toronto police are any different is false.

Thirdly, those supporting Chile and condemming Toronto police as brutal are hypocrits. Take a look on the internet, there are literally dozens of videos depicting Chilean incidents with police involving brutality far surpassing some non-lethal tazers and hauling people away in handcuffs. Chilean police are feared by their own people, so don't get all offended when a foreign nation's officers do what is completely within their jurisdiction to attempt to dispell a situation. The outcome would have been the same if it had been the Canadian squad who started pushing female officers and busting out windows.

The only disgrace to this situation is that it had to come to world-wide attention.

Esta es una noticia de la version del director para America Latina de The Human Rights Warch, Jose Miguel Vivanco:

"Human Rights Watch califico como "brutal" el operativo"

"A primera vista da la impresion de que se trata de una policia que recurre a la brutalidad como primer mecanismo de control" sostuvo Vivanco

"por lo que vi en las imagenes, me parecio abusivo"

I worked with the U20 FIFA in Ottawa and my friends in Toronto told me that before the fight started Toronto Police took all the Chilean Press and the others to a hall and locked them there. THATS WHY NO VIDEOS ONLINE NOW. Toronto Police covered there ass, I mean KIDS, UNARMED, STRESSED, come on police if u do that to a Canadian with the same age u will get fired because u abused and underage. Yes Toronto is diverse but the police is mainly WHITE PEOPLE, u can see some other races in the police but generally they are white, I mean I live in Ottawa and I have seen ONLY ONE NON-WHITE OFFICER he was ASIAN, so don't defend the police. and seriously every Toronto volunteer person who saw the incident(my friends) said that a guy left the bus to sign autograph for A CHILEAN GIRL FAN, and the police though something else and attacked, idiots. they need some major training, those are not criminals. In Vancouver they killed a traveler immigrant from East Europe with a TEASER in the airport, and now this happens in Toronto. THATS PROVE THAT CANADIAN POLICE IN GENERAL NEEDS SOME MAJOR WORK, follow Germany not the USA style of violence.

I know it will soon be a year since the Chilean and Argentinian game and "confrontation", but there are some stuff people really need to see. I couldn't read all the posts, because there were just too many, but I read some of the first ones. I agree with some peoples opinions and I disagree with some. I am a Canadian 16 year old with Chilean parents and I hold that Chilean heritage to me TOO close. I consider myself more Chilean than Canadian, but there are stuff I have to admit are just dumb, like how they say racism was a contribution to the police's actions. It would actually be quite disgraceful for Canada if it was due to racism because we are a multicultural country that promotes peace and dignity between each other. But, that's not the case. Now I totally agree with Jerrold when it comes to the whole thing about the referee handing out those cards like there was no tomorrow. The Chilean players got yellow and red cards for the stupidest reasons while the Argentians would do immense fouls and they would not get anything for it.
Regarding the brawl, I was in Chile when this whole thing went on and the impact it had on Chileans in Chile was incredible. They even went and threw stuff at the Canadian embassy in Santiago. My uncle was actually helping out reporting and he saw everything that happened with his own eyes. Toronto Police simply did a horrific job that night. In chile, the players were being interviewed as they got back and they say most of it started when some Chilean players went to their fans to sign autographs and security wasn't letting them, they would ask them why and because their English was/is not that good, some security thought they said something innapropriate to them and began taking unnecessary actions against them. Since when can police just use a taser or use weapons on someone if they THOUGHT they said an inappropriate word. Then people go on to say that the Chilean players were destroying the bus because you know they're Spanish and they want to go destroy something because they're SO mad?? the real reason was that a female cop actually through those bombs that burn your eyes into the bus and doors were closed. They hadto smash the windows to get out because the doors wouldn't reopen. So later they're seen as these players that can't take losing so they destroy stuff and cause havoc? That's completely wrong. Some people have their opinion and I do too, but I'm not saying it because I'm Chilean, I try to think of stuff logically, without being biased. If it was the Argentian team that lost and that happened, I would look at it the same way. Although I'd be happy to see that Chile won, it would be unfair to omit the idea that they're being unjustly treated, like the Chilean team was.
Unfortunately, thanks to this situation, we probably won't be seeing big tournaments like these occur in Toronto, which is a shame because it is incredible to see so many people rooting for their players and countries. But, if they do decide to do something here again, then they should really see who they're choosing to decide the fate of a country's team's destiny, and to have security or police use a better form of protection. The Chilean players were not going to do anything to harm the well-being of people and if they did, they know that would look bad on them especially if they're in a country that is not theirs.
toronto police really needs to settle themselves and arrest or hurt people that are armed and that are a real harm to the community not defenceless players that are here just to represent their country.

just 1 comment you're being blindsided and tautological, hence the mow the grass comment isn't racist. Second you're being overtly nationalistic ind efending the toronto police to defend the honour of your own country, just out of what? patriotism?
third. There was an ault involved the coach of the chilean team who's an elderly man, he also got battered. There were brusies and tazer marks, perhaps you think this is tough love marks and nothing to be called battery. Apparently you expect a gunshot wound, hence what happened to the polish fellow at teh Vancouver airport?
Fourth these players were generally well behaved and not to be compared with other football hoolighans, as you can see that they had peformed very well and kept to themselves without a majour incident. You're just trying to make a case that soccer assoc football breeds savagery.
Fifth a responsible foreign diplomat official was on the scene as well as the national team coach
6th a google search constitues as popularity of a subject hence being complained about too many times to be discounted as a myth, which is why google features the feature to trace thepopularity of search results. which are especially useful for marketing.
7th despite what you think about south american soccer, the performance tehre is taken with pride at a juniour level because they're trying out for the adult league, one of the battered, Vial got hired by a german team, as Suazo got hired for the adultnational team, which wouldn't have happened if they were the irresponsible thugs that you said.
8th to the chileans that support the toronto police, you must love your jobs in canada too much and you must consider the players as subhuman, there's still a lot of social class struggle in Chile.
9th racism has been demonstrated in generalisations that saying that all chileans are :a, all south american football is b, based on a claim by witness c. Plus the pin the blame on the foreigner. A?slander raus?
10th however multicultural a city is , the population is considered endemic to the urban territory tehrefore culture in comparison to a foreign visiting socceer team. this in a society that uses F.O.B as a putdown.
Oh yeah let's all act like baby Bushes