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Notorious Clubs: HYPE, Brampton
Welcome to the Notorious Clubs series. This is where we look at clubs with some of the shadiest promoters, rudest staff, nastiest owners, worst sound systems, highest drink prices and loathsome activities in Toronto. Today we'll take a look at HYPE in Brampton: home of ACDC, GNR and Bon Jovi Tribute Bands, rude bouncers and cutthroat business practices.

The first thing that struck me about Hype was how it felt more like a teen center than a concert venue. With its pool table, small stage and sports figures on the walls, I wasn't too enthused... but then again, I've seen worse. The excruciatingly painful sound system is aimed at making your ears ring loudly to be sure your experience here sticks in your mind for days afterwards. While the lighting is OK and there are plenty of booths to sit down at, you will soon find that looks can be deceiving. "We feel honoured to play at the only club where you CAN'T drink at the bar," Latefallen declared onstage.
Yes people, it's true - you CANNOT drink at the bar here. As soon as you get a beer in your hand, a gruff, bald bouncer will be looming over your shoulder, instructing you to move to the back of the room where you will be quarantined like an animal. If you hesitate to get a shot or ask the bartender a question, the owner will be shaking his head, pointing to the corner. "You have to drink that over there!" he insists.
With an all-ages crowd, it's understandable that there needs to be a designated drinking area to keep under-aged kids from getting their eager hands on a pitcher; however, what ISN'T necessary is being insulted, chased from the bar and verbally reprimanded in such a condescending manner. Afterall, drink sales constitute a major portion of a club's profit. Bands didn't get any special treatment either. Though a few musicians furtively snuck beer onstage, they had been originally told there was to be NO drinking onstage unless it was bottled water.
The rude attitude didn't start there of course. It began as soon as we stepped inside. At 4:45pm, no one was working the door to inform us the club wasn't open yet. Moments after sauntering in, we were instructed to wait outside another fifteen minutes until 5pm. Twenty-five kids clamored in the freezing hallway until 5:45 when they were finally allowed inside.
Media guestlist and family member guestlist simply doesn't exist at Hype. "We only have guestlist on Saturdays when the tribute bands play," the owner told me. "Otherwise it's like you're stealing from the bands. Tell the bands to pay for you if they really want to treat you but they only get paid based on how many people come to see them." Standard procedure is to pay bands based on a percentage of the bar sales (for free shows with big numbers) or split the money from the door among the bands.
Let's do some crude math here. At Hype, patrons hand the door $7 - $5 for the club owner and $2 for whichever band they've come to see. If no one has ever heard your band before and you're the opener, you will go home with nothing, not even a free bottle of water or one drink ticket. If 50 people come to see you, your five band members will get $20 each. In this case, Seconds To Go (from London, Ontario) went home with a meager $9 total (not sure where that extra dollar came from - sympathy loonie?).
Expect to be yelled at for resting half a bum cheek on the unused pool table. You'll have bouncers shaking their heads at you if you take two steps past their idea of the drinkers' boundaries (which is only verbalized and not designated by any signs, by the way). If they feel you've dropped some trash in the hallway, expect to be bullied into picking it up, regardless of whether they have proof it was actually you littering. Also don't be surprised if the door is slammed behind you on your way out.
This tyrannical bouncer behavior may just be an unfortunate byproduct of the red Security shirt. The 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment found that ordinary Berkley students could be transformed into sadistic monsters just by playing a mock prison guard role. In less than a week, their voices had changed and they were punishing other students (arbitrarily labeled as "the prisoners") by tripping them, stripping them, locking them in closets, verbally humiliating them and taking away "privileges" like bathroom breaks. On a much smaller scale you can see this transformation of character in many bouncers. I'm sure he's a great brother, a great friend, maybe even a great coworker; but it's almost as if he ENJOYS over-policing patrons and treating you like "just another punk-ass kid". I remember dealing with disrespect as a teenager but I knew many of my peers instigated trouble just for fun and sort of understood why bouncers came down so hard on us. But for someone in their 20s who just wants to have one beer and watch some bands play, this goes beyond degradation.
On a positive note, the chicken wings WERE pretty tasty, the bartenders and runners were very sweet and the large $13 pitchers were an excellent value. If I were coming here for a pre-game meal, I would seat myself at a table near the TVs and have a perfectly fine time. But I find that the Hype "Indie Music Sundays" is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Don't fall for their trick. They don't care about Indie artists, they don't care about Indie music and they certainly don't care about YOU.


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I promote HYPE and several other venues. Some of the above story is true and some of it total
bullshit. 1/This show was all ages therefore no drinking in certain areas.
HYPE is 19 plus drinking 90% of the time.
2/ Several of the bouncers do suck,
I want to kill them myself. These things take a little time in new venues
sometimes. I need 2 months of training
(I'm serious)
3/ Nobody makes just $2 per fan.
The range is between $3 to $4 per fan
to $4 per fan PLUS a base cash guarantee. Indies that draw decent have
walked out of HYPE with $400 to $800 or more for 30 minutes of live music.
People that do well move up just like
life itself.
HYPE has also paid over $5,000 to $10,000 per show on "name" recording acts on many occasions and forked
thousands into radio and local news ads to support local talent.
4/ On the "TRIBUTE" cut up. Many rooms
are actually even alive because of
packed FRIDAY DANCES (every Friday
at HYPE), Commercial old school acts
like TROOPER and APRIL WINE (sold out in advance) and great CHICKEN WINGS. An average Tribute band draws about 300 people even in summer at HYPE
and does record breaking bar sales.
Should promoters write off TRIBUTES for being too commercial or some of the Indies that didn't pack the place like they said they would ? Should promoters stop bringing young people into decent venues because its almost always a loss or very small profit for the trouble ?
NO, NOT AT ALL. Why ? Because it is really about the love of ALL MUSIC and love of ALL PEOPLE that creates a scene. Bars are a dime a dozen there
are few scenes. Scenes take some time.
There ARE better clubs then HYPE BUT there are shitloads of clubs with a lot
less going for them too.
There's a great crew of people at HYPE and it's too bad that just a couple knuckleheads spoiled this night
for some people.
Some nights (not at HYPE) I've
dropped over $10,000 on a promotion. Did I go crying to the bands and say "Hey man can you give me GAS money ?". Did any of them
offer to help me ? You know that answer.
**Actually the only musician who asked if I needed any money and if I was
ok in over 20 fuckin' years was
SHANE of the great and unique
BINARY LINK. I paid his trio $86 that night for the small handful of people they brought and he offered to give some back. I got a bit choked
up because at the time I was struggling to feed my 6 year old.
Anyhow, Rome wasn't built in a few months,there were NO HYPE OWNERS
at HYPE that Sunday as presented in the above lie, most ALL AGES shows
don't produce thousands in profit, and HYPE will continue to be a great
Brampton venue and support the great talent found in Peel Region and beyond.
If you need a gig or a few thousand good
testimonials I can be reached at
hypeshow@hotmail.com or
raxxlounge@hotmail.com
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And while I'm here, I have to say that blonde runner girl was extremely sweet and the bartender was great too.
Perhaps it's because an hour before going I was paying $7 a rye and coke at the Foxxes Den, 5.25 didn't seem half as bad. My friend wasn't satisfied with the chocolate martini, but didn't really care too much. I never really even noticed the bouncer at the back....I'm told he was laughing when Jess and I were dancing like fools to some slow song by Guns and Roses....and again it might just be us, but more dancable rock songs would be great. Or a variety of music after the band. Sure some people will hate a song...then love a song....then kinda like one, but there's nothing funner than shooting an arrow into the blank sky and hoping it doesn't poke someone in the eye.
I don't know much about the owner...except that he hustled us out and looked very displeased with something we didn't do....I hate getting hit on by really drunk waaaay older men, but thoroughly enjoyed the rocker vibe...because i feel wrong going into other places where girls are dressed like they want the trailor trash award, and i noticed there's always one sleazy guy...who hits on about 4 different girls and goes home after finishing his beer with no one in every bar.
Bartender or owner...make fun of him for me...i'd love you forever.
and it's probably the best AC-DC
Tribute out there.
what did the owner look like ?
Joe
The owner(s) are two wonderful people. They are husband and wife. They have a Scottish accent. They are always working on the bar at the end of the night. I believe everyone is mistaking the owner with one of the doormen. I believe everyone is confused with the dude with the gray hair in a ponytail being the owner, but he's absolutely NOT the owner!!!
I hope this helps!
Well, I'm glad to hear your experience at HYPE was overall positive. I don't believe I served you because I never had an order for a chocolate martini, so I think I'm the other (dirty) blonde hair runner. I'm believe I know the dude you are talking about because he was hitting on me all night too! There is usually always one in every crowd but don't let that stop you from coming in to our venue again. Just feel sorry for guys like that because they do end up leaving the bar by themselves.
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I am a member of an AC/DC Tribute that has played the opening at HYPE, we were treated wonderfully, the audience had a great time, all of our guests were allowed in free, we were paid well, free drinks and food, the bar staff were all very friendly, none of the bouncers gave anyone a hard time, I am personally happy that the dance thing is working for the owners, because they treated me and my band so well, they deserve to do well,
What's all this negativity.
Lorne.
"AB/CD"
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid
people can really be.
Have you owned a bar ???
Do you have any idea whats involved??
You hire staff thats expected to act
accordingly, but like human beings they might screw up on occasion.
So, patrons of the bar , who are driking ,are exempt from screwing up ???
I have played in hundreds and hundreds of bars over the years , and have met some really great people.
I have also had the misfortune of meeting a truck load of assholes.
Does it really matter if your walking into a bar? Working in a bar? Walking down the street? ...And you run into an asshole ?????
You don't know what there all about ;
they don't know what your all about.
SUCK IT UP !!! ROLL WITH IT !!!
We're all here for a good time ; not a long time.
Frank and Wilma are trying to do the best that they can.
The fact that they don't have bands any more means it wasn't working.
At least they tried !! God Bless Them !!
DIRTY DEEDS AND THERE DONE DIRT CHEAP!
OVER AND OUT !!
Jamie.
Joe
When I was a youngster," complained the frustrated father, "I was disciplined by being sent to my room without supper. But my son has his own color TV, phone, computer and CD player."
"So what do you do?" asked his friend.
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A customer was bothering the waiter in a restaurant. First, he asked that the air conditioning be turned up because he was too hot, then he asked it be turned down cause he was too cold, and so on for about half an hour.
Surprisingly, the waiter was very patient, he walked back and forth and never once got angry. So finally, a second customer asked him why he didn't throw out the pest.
"Oh, I really don't care or mind," said the waiter with a smile. "We don't even have an air conditioner."
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