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Toronto begins cracking down on "illegal" food trucks

Posted by Mariam Matti / March 9, 2012

Food CabbieFood Cabbie, a popular food truck operating near George Brown College, has been given a verbal warning by the City of Toronto to cease operations by the end of the month. The turn of events is the result of a rather obscure bylaw that states, "Refreshment vehicles cannot park or operate in a public or private parking lot". It's all the more surprising because back in August The City issued them a permit to operate in the parking lot near Mutual and Queen Street East where they've been dishing up pulled-pork sandwiches, Philly cheese steaks and breakfast burritos to hungry students and workers in the area.

The popularity of food trucks has been on the rise in Toronto for the past year and this represents yet another setback in the ongoing efforts of many to improve the quality of Toronto's street food offerings. Luckily, Food Cabbie doesn't plan on giving up without a fight,

So far they have started an online petition in hopes that the bylaw will be altered so that food trucks like theirs can park on private parking lots if the landlord gives them approval. Otherwise, the withstanding bylaw all but guarantees that food trucks won't be able to park anywhere this side of Hamilton.

Having run a successful food truck (with plenty of media attention I should add) since the summer, the couple is confounded about the situation they now find themselves in.

"Toronto is a world class city but the way their by laws are and the way their licensing department works is very confusing." said Spiros. Regardess of the warning from the City, the couple plans on staying put for now.

Photo by Jesse Milns

Discussion

36 Comments

Tapcon / March 9, 2012 at 04:48 pm
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Someone should alert Rob Ford, I doubt he'll stand by and let a fast food truck get shut down.
Allan / March 9, 2012 at 05:01 pm
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unbelievable, we've been trying to get city by-law officer to tackle laneway near us that backs onto Chinese grocery store - for numerous infractions (some very disgusting) many of which we've documented with photos and have been told they they can't do anything unless they themselves catch them in the act...and yet they will shut down licensed food truck using obscure by-law infraction. this city is a mess.
Toby Buckets / March 9, 2012 at 05:11 pm
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A good issue for Ford. Our current Mayor should focus on attacking red tape nonsense like this, and leave major transit planning to the professionals. Making the city an easier place to do business and to party would be a suitable legacy for the man I think.
Jo Klitzke / March 9, 2012 at 05:17 pm
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Westcott Country Kitchen support Food Cabbie 100%.
Chester Pape / March 9, 2012 at 05:19 pm
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There's only 2 reasons they would do this, the most likely is that a local business complained, probably hired a lawyer to find the obscure bylaw that the city themselves didn't even know was still in force and wrote a nasty letter on creamy paper to the city. Instant action.

The second is that some city employee, they're not all like this but they're a vocal minority, lives in Pickering, 8th grade education, functionally illiterate except they have every word of the collective agreement memorized, is running behind on his quota this month and/or has decided he doesn't personally like the food truck thing for some reason, probably because it means more work for them and decided to do something about it.
hpo replying to a comment from Tapcon / March 9, 2012 at 05:58 pm
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No.

Comments alluding to Rob Ford's weight always come up in stories regarding Toronto food trucks and it's a stupid thing to bring up. Ford is a meat and potatoes guy, who probably doesn't eat anything considered "exotic". (Okay the Food Cabbie is not the greatest example to support this line of thinking.). Most overweight people are terrible eaters, who have their palettes blown off by highly sugared and processed foods. Though Rob Ford should like food trucks because they are small businesses and are victims of red-tape and "government policy"
auditorydamage / March 9, 2012 at 06:03 pm
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The extremely restrictive outdoor food truck/cart needs to come to an end. The Miller administration spectacularly botched what should have been a simple effort to allow for the expansion of available choices, and from the sounds of this story even city licencing and bylaw enforcement aren't working from the same set of standards.

Set some simple but strict food handling and sanitation standards, whitelist or blacklist certain areas and zoning types for truck/cart locations (whichever is least confusing), ensure proper funding and training for regulatory staff to make sure the industry doesn't fall afoul of the established rules (and to ensure that the rules adequately protect public health, and don't unduly restrict operators from conducting otherwise legal business), and let the chefs rip.
mrbrick / March 9, 2012 at 06:10 pm
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I wonder if the Caplansky's truck that is in the same lot is getting the cities attention too?

I eat at the food cabbie quite often, I would hate to see it go. There really isn't much in the area to eat.
toronto raccoon / March 9, 2012 at 06:27 pm
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I eat there and love the food. So sad.
Jim Rooney / March 9, 2012 at 06:29 pm
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Toronto is not nor will it ever be 'world class', because there are too many beaureucrats trying to make it 'perfect'. There is nothing here that one of them can't make better.
Grant / March 9, 2012 at 06:54 pm
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Toronto needs many more food trucks, not less.
Kipley / March 9, 2012 at 08:21 pm
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If it's on private property and they have the owners permission I see no problem. In this case the use is obviously enjoyed and required by many in the area. If all health isues are adressed and the truck is not offensive in any way leave them alone.
Let them run a small business and make a few bucks.
Martin givens. / March 9, 2012 at 08:52 pm
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Why can't we sell food like every other north amarican city ? What is the difference between Toronto and Vancouver ? Holly shit ! Is it just me but is there something wrong with city hall?
Joebiz / March 9, 2012 at 08:54 pm
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And yet those roach-riddled "Chinese" food trucks can block bike lanes up St George on UofT campus. nice.
Custy Cabbie / March 9, 2012 at 09:06 pm
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Please shutdown food trucks that serve dog food to the public.
space dk / March 9, 2012 at 09:14 pm
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This is ridiculous. That show on the Food Network called 'Eat Street' always gets me so hungry, if only we can have food trucks like those in Toronto
jameson / March 9, 2012 at 09:41 pm
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why don't you angry people phone your local councillor and get them to do something about the delayed harmonized zoning bylaw? then this sort of ridiculousness could be fixed
the lemur / March 9, 2012 at 09:41 pm
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They don't block bike lanes - they're in parking spaces. But I don't understand why they don't seem to operate anywhere else, or why we can't, or maybe just don't, have food carts selling anything but hot dogs, like, oh I dunno, coffee or pretzels or whatever. What gives?
martin givens replying to a comment from jameson / March 9, 2012 at 10:58 pm
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I'm calling my city councillor. do they work saturdays?
Gline replying to a comment from Chester Pape / March 10, 2012 at 01:35 am
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Where did you come up with this schoolboy howler of an idea from? And why do people like you love to do NOTHING but bash public sector employees? The laws are set up for a reason-they're not there just to piss you off.
Jildren / March 10, 2012 at 08:34 am
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Of all this fish to fry... this is fucking ridiculous. These trucks are so much better than the nasty burger fry trucks lines up in front of city hall. Parking lots make way more sense for food trucks than parked on busy streets like queen. Hopefully this stupidness will bring cabbie media attention customers and public outcry. The decision will be reversed and the idiot with the vendetta will see a vindictive plan backfire.
Rob / March 10, 2012 at 10:11 am
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But "World Class" cities are waging a "war on food trucks" as well bringing in new bylaws to if not get rid of them to at least "curb" them.. (pardon the pun)... New York, LA, Chicago are all enacting new bylaws to hamper the ability of food truck as to where they can park and how mobile they can bee. In New York large areas of the city have become "No Go" zones for Food Trucks, and chicago says that they cannot stay in one spot for more then 15 minutes... http://www.chow.com/food-news/106420/are-people-getting-sick-of-food-trucks/
So maybe Toronto IS on par with the "World Class" cities for once...
Shawn / March 10, 2012 at 11:41 am
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Its hard to see the merit in doing this....of all the things the City could be doing, they're wasting their time on food trucks providing better food than the garbage chips trucks and hot dog stands? Energy that could be spent: going after cars and bikes that blast past open TTC doors endangering transit riders; going after smokers who smoke directly outside hospitals and daycares; making efforts to having nutritional information posted in most restaurants; etc.
Dr. Shrinker replying to a comment from Jildren / March 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm
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Maybe the 'nasty burger trucks' aren't a problem because they stick to the rules, are clean and sanitized according to the codes, and well, PEOPLE LOVE BURGERS AND FRIES? Let's all just work to change the laws without bashing city employees doing their jobs or bashing Toronto generally.
agentsmith / March 10, 2012 at 04:36 pm
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So it's okay to park a food truck on the street (like the ones right in front of City Hall) but NOT in a parking lot? That's a rule so utterly ass-backwards it could only happen in Toronto.
Jildren replying to a comment from Dr. Shrinker / March 10, 2012 at 04:45 pm
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Simmer down doc. I didn't say shut down the nasty burger fry trucks and I didnt bad Toronto, I said these trucks serve better food and parking lots are a more logical location for food trucks then major arteries of the core.
Jildren replying to a comment from Dr. Shrinker / March 10, 2012 at 04:46 pm
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*bash
RT / March 11, 2012 at 01:15 pm
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more food trucks are better for the city, but I agree the permits should be regulated and issued out properly, or else you'll see a food-truck war that battles for spots begin; twisted metal style.
ZKP / March 11, 2012 at 03:24 pm
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If ever establishments like these get shut down, I think this would be an added reason to my list as to why I want to move out of this city.

Toronto, I love you but you give me more reasons everyday to HATE YOU.
Sd replying to a comment from Rob / March 11, 2012 at 07:34 pm
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Rob,

Not quite the case. Nearly every state in the U.S is taking a different approach to food trucks. If you look at SXSW right now, it's food truck in all its wonderful glory. Dozens of carts participating at the festival using a
variety spaces, public and private.

Austin and Portland are leading the way in this scene, always have been.

In LA, food trucks roam, because of the open spaces, and the drive mentality.

In Miami, food trucks have been getting hammered with legislation, but events flourish. Lots of great food from the trucks in Miami.

In Baltimore, the city is encouraging entrepreneurs to open food trucks, employing relaxed rules and allowing truckers to use certain zones to operate.

In Philly, food trucks are setting up at universities, pedestrian ways, and sometimes festivals. Imagine walking by UofT or Ryerson and seeing 12 trucks lined up for lunch, that's Philly.

In Boston, food trucks participate in many festivals, and a few, very few public spaces.

In New York, well there's no space...we all know this. It's not food truck friendly, so the city is cracking down on food trucks. However, look at cart culture. NYC has a tremendous number of food carts, and they are rocking it. Over 75% of it is halal too, to boot.

Comparing Toronto to NYC would be totally silly, but you can see what's happening in the U.S. with varying states and their varying landscapes.

We already know Toronto has 'some' room for food trucks. The ones at UofT, the ones by Nathan Phillips square (those food trucks can operate there because their licenses were acquired before the 2002 Moratorium).

But Toronto doesn't have THAT much space. It's not as dense. The solution, in my humble opinion, is not to allow food trucks to be curbside in the core. The solution is to set up food zones in the city. Areas where 1-3 trucks can set up for a day, and rotate, without pissing off restaurants, creating a food culture, and functioning as a starting point.

Food pods or zones, whatever you want to call it, is the solution for Toronto. Our own hacked version of the Singapore hawker centers.

It is totally possible, look at food truck eats.

/Suresh
Gline replying to a comment from ZKP / March 11, 2012 at 07:36 pm
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If not being able to eat from food trucks is the only reason you can't stand Toronto (and it's a small stupid reason), then I say please be gone, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
curb your by law bullshit / March 12, 2012 at 02:00 pm
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i think the food truck is here to stay !! i hope!!!

oh sorry did we miss them parked for the last thirty years in front of city hall ????

why is this little food truck getting so slammered ?? is it because it actually has a rotating food menu and it tastes better than the crap there slinging in front of city hall or is some crazy legislation or by law stopping them after they gave them permission and a license to set up ???

what the hell is going on at City Hall ??? Can they just revoke their licence after they made them jump through a million hoops ??? Come On !!


When is city hall going to get its shit together and protect its city's population instead of burying their heads in the crap that they initiated in the first place ???
as long as they play by the rules which in my opinion they have ... screw all the disgruntled
people who find this not acceptable

last i remember we live in a democratic society and the way i see it this food truck has a family to feed and a mortgage to pay and all those in favour of it staying front and centre unite and place your comments so others can do as well !!

what a bunch of crap !! all over food trucks !! this city has lost a bit of its charm and is becoming a real dump in my mind ... have you seen the trash of losers and homeless that litter the downtown streets ?? the drug addicts and dealers that the city does nothing about ?? the pan handlers and ditch dwellers and seriously dirty ill people touching every door handle and pissind in every corner of the downtown metro .....


wake up people .. the battle with the food truck is small in comparison to the poverty that makes its ugly presence know each and every day !!

I BELEIVE in Food Cabbie !!! so should you !!
hungry / March 13, 2012 at 02:02 pm
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Sounds like a cash grab to me....
all i can think about is how awesome the food trucks are in new york. man i wish i could walk down to the corner of the street and get a fish taco for like $3. The quality and diversity of food trucks in other places is soo much better!!!
Gline replying to a comment from curb your by law bullshit / March 26, 2012 at 05:41 am
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The 'trash of losers and homeless that litter the downtown streets' are mostly due to neocon policies caused by neocon morons like you voting in people like Ford, Harris, Dalton 'Tory Lite' McGuinty and Harper. Maybe if you wised up and stopped voting in people like that, there wouldn't be as many homeless people and people in general needing services on the streets now. Stop blaming your 'enjoyment' of Toronto and not having street food from trucks on homeless people and other people who are vulnerable.
Jerry replying to a comment from Tapcon / April 14, 2012 at 02:24 pm
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Oh I am sure Rob knows about this. There are too many bureaucrats just meddling trying to justify their own existence.
Jess replying to a comment from Gline / September 17, 2012 at 09:56 am
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Don't forget Rae, Peterson, Miller, Robarts, Lastman, Chretien, Malroney and Turner. Hell, we should just not vote so we don't get blamed by people for voting in new-age scumbag politicians (and they all are).

I don't agree with what Harris did, but he's the only politician in a long time who did every single thing he was elected to do. He cut as he said he would, and reformed as he said he would. You may not agree with his policies, but that is at least an honest person.

Now if only all three parties could offer up such a person.

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