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LCBO Feeling the Pinch of the Recession

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / February 3, 2009

20090204-lcbo.jpgIn the midst of a very real recession, we hear talk of it being a good time to buy. Real estate gets more affordable, retailers have Boxing Day-like sales the week before Christmas, and hell freezes over and pigs fly. Yes, the LCBO is doing something it hasn't done in... as long as I've been of legal drinking age (or maybe even ever). They're having their third Vintages sale in as many months. Wow.

But what is even more interesting and far more telling is that the LCBO has suspended all submissions into the Vintages program (PDF), pending further review of sales and inventory plans.

What does this mean to the average wine consumer? Not much. Most wine buyers are quite content with the "million bottles, all the same" (i.e. mass-produced plonk) that lines the stores' regular wine shelves. Not much has changed in that regard. You'll always be able to find wine with kangaroos on the label, in cat-shaped bottles, and in tetra packs.

But what does it mean to the more discriminating wine buyer? Again, not much. Vintages works several months ahead of schedule, so a lot is still being released every two weeks, as planned many months ago. Depending on how things go over the coming months, it may not be obvious that they're releasing less at all.

Of course, in the unlikely event that things get really scarce in Vintages corners, there are alternatives to the LCBO retail chain. After all, what the retail stores sell is just a drop in the bucket. Getting friends together to do a group Private Order, joining one of many wine buying clubs, and filling your suitcase with goodies when you travel abroad (and paying duty of course) are all still viable means of getting unique products that the LCBO doesn't carry in their stores.

Discussion

14 Comments

Krupo / February 3, 2009 at 09:33 pm
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You can save a ridiculous amount of money buying the wine straight from France, especially if you're not picky and buy cheap stuff - the taxes/duties you end up paying are still nothing compared to LCBO prices.
Jerrold replying to a comment from Krupo / February 3, 2009 at 10:02 pm
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A <a href="http://www.lcbo.com/askus/importing.shtml";>huge amount of taxes and a brokerage fee</a> are placed on unaccompanied wine importations, making it very expensive to bring in wine "straight from France". I'm pretty sure it comes out to be more than LCBO retail prices. Otherwise, we'd all be doing it.

A better option is using the LCBO's <a href="http://www.lcbo.com/programs_services/private_ordering/content_priv_ordering.shtml";>Private Ordering</a> department to contact the agent (if one exists) who represents the product here in Ontario. You might be able to buy by the case from their consignment warehouse and have it in a few days, or they may be able to order it by the case from the source and you can get it in about 3 months.
Da Trick / February 3, 2009 at 10:44 pm
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"Most wine buyers are quite content with the "million bottles, all the same" (i.e. mass-produced plonk) that lines the stores' regular wine shelves. Not much has changed in that regard. You'll always be able to find wine with kangaroos on the label, in cat-shaped bottles, and in tetra packs."

Way to continue to act like an elitist snob BlogTO.

I know, if I don't like indie everything it means what I like is crap. I've been reading this blog long enough that I know that by now.
Jerrold replying to a comment from Da Trick / February 3, 2009 at 10:51 pm
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Please don't paint all blogTO writers with the same brush. I'M the wine snob!

In all seriousness though, there are very few wines in the LCBO (outside of Vintages) that I think are great, or that I'd take to a nice dinner.
Danielle / February 4, 2009 at 12:08 am
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Jerrold isn't the only wine snob...

But considering I live right by a Vintages, I rarely complain.
Eric / February 4, 2009 at 12:39 am
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Can any of you wine snobs, I mean, connoisseurs, tell me what wines I should be buying during this great sale?
GDH / February 4, 2009 at 01:33 am
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"Getting friends together to do a group Private Order, joining one of many wine buying clubs, and filling your suitcase with goodies when you travel abroad (and paying duty of course) are all still viable means of getting unique products that the LCBO doesn't carry in their stores." You consider these viable? Really? You've been living in Ontario too long. There are plenty of retarded things in this province, but the LCBO monopoly might just win first prize.
Suresh / February 4, 2009 at 08:11 am
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Two words >
2005
&
Bordeaux

A really good time to go in and see what 2005 they have left, and stock up on this incredible year for Bordeaux.
Chester Pape / February 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
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As frustrating as the LCBO can be sometimes their buying power does filter down to the average consumer. A couple years ago we had friends in from Calgary, we served a California cab that was a "Vintages Essential" in other words, in the store mostly year round, they liked quite a bit so I lifted the label for him. He took it to his usual high end wine store in Calgary and the proprietor laughed "I got two cases of that this year and it was all spoken for before I got it. I can take your name and I'll call you when I get my allocation this year". Last time I was in the UK I saw the same bottle of New Zealand Sauv Blanc that I can buy in Vintages for 25 bucks, for 25 pounds.

The biggest "problem" with the LCBO for us snobs is that they buy so much that small producers get passed over just because they can't or won't commit to the minimum order size. THe biggest problem for "average joes" is that the minimum pricing level they maintain of 7 bucks or so a bottle is expensive compared against the cheapest plonk you can get in other markets.
Shawn Micallef / February 4, 2009 at 11:06 am
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In Malta this past summer, after full-admittance to the EU, wine was like 3-4-5 Euros a bottle IN RESTAURANTS. I'm not at all a wine snob (I'm certain the difference between "plonk" and "vintages" is so marginal as to be irrelevant to anybody but the snobs) so all this seemed fine. These prices applied to local Maltese wine as well as imports from France and Italy.
amy / February 4, 2009 at 11:23 am
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I just came across a helpful website on the current economic downturn: RecessionInfoCenter.com
Mark Dowling / February 4, 2009 at 03:01 pm
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well said chester pape - people who don't appreciate LCBO haven't lived in places like Ireland where wine is punitively taxed and choice is minimal. The ability to take back wine (such as when you get gifted a wine you have tried previously and know sucks) and exchange it is awesome, particularly in December.
eagle3 / February 4, 2009 at 06:40 pm
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Here Here, well said GDH.. You go to other countries and you can buy alcohol in grocery stores or their own specialty stores. You have choices. LCBO gives you what they think you should have, they make the decision for you. Its ridiculous.
Robert / June 16, 2009 at 08:44 am
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1. They should allow wine to be sold in stores, but not liquors etc., We have enough booze hounds and wino's on the street, and at least right now they can't "refresh" themselves easily when the stores are closed.

2. LCBO should not be privatized, but wine should be sold in supermarkets. NOT CORNER STORES as it's more likely to be given to kids at that level.

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