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Rats Invade Happy Seven?

Posted by Tim / October 8, 2008

Rat Happy SevenDoes Happy Seven (one of Toronto's most favourited late night Chinese restaurants) have a rat problem?

According to Jesse Ship, Arts Editor of Format Magazine, it just might. He took what he says is a photo of a rat in the window of this popular Chinatown restaurant on his way to work this morning.

In his words: I was just walking past happy Seven today on Spadina and snagged images of a rat in the window on my cell phone, sitting right next to the health inspector sign. The restaurant wasn't open yet.

Here's a closer look: Update! A video that confirms this is a rat has now been posted on Vimeo. It's embedded below.

Rat ChinatownIf it is a rat, this would of course just be the latest in ongoing rat infestations in the area. It was only back in mid February when we stumbled upon a photo of rats having their way with things at the nearby Dumpling House.

Discussion

125 Comments

Jerrold / October 8, 2008 at 01:10 pm
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Oh the irony that the vermin sits just feet away from the Toronto Public Health pass sign :P
Jerrold / October 8, 2008 at 01:20 pm
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Also, I think it's kind of fortunate that these rats have taken to posing in the windows of these restos so photos can be snapped by passersby.
will / October 8, 2008 at 01:23 pm
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That thing looks enormous. it looks like you could make a hat out of it.
guy lafleur / October 8, 2008 at 01:24 pm
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Haha, only 6 days since the inspection was done too! Epic fail Toronto Public Health!
Adam / October 8, 2008 at 01:28 pm
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I'd say it could easily make a good scarf.

What's worse about it being next to the TO Public Health sign is that the inspection was on October 2nd - a mere 6 days ago. How do you miss shit like this?

I'd put this back on the Public Health inspectors. That's a HUGE miss.
Ry-Tron / October 8, 2008 at 01:42 pm
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Having worked in a resto many moons ago in Montreal, all I can say is "bribe".
Huginho / October 8, 2008 at 01:59 pm
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It's been awhile since I've eaten there. don't intend to go back now.
Desiree / October 8, 2008 at 02:01 pm
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I was having a hard time believing that something that huge was a rat -- but if you photoshop the picture to add a little light ... THAT'S THE BIGGEST, GROSSEST F@#CKIN' RAT I'VE EVER SEEN!!!!
Greg Smith / October 8, 2008 at 02:02 pm
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Or, less deviously, the rats don't hang around when they're open and people (staff, customers, inspectors) are around?
David E / October 8, 2008 at 02:06 pm
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Now, if only cockroaches were as daylight loving, we'd really know much more!
js / October 8, 2008 at 02:12 pm
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well..he wasnt that big..kinda cute even, in a bedraggled cartoonish way....
Sean Galbraith / October 8, 2008 at 02:19 pm
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This is just the rat equivalent to a lobster trap.
Zoltan / October 8, 2008 at 02:22 pm
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Forget the Toronto Health sign...
That rat is "Recommend by Toronto Life"? On what criteria?
nippleholic / October 8, 2008 at 02:23 pm
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I ate there once years ago (before the dinesafe program) and there were cockroaches climbing up the wall beside my table...needless to say, i've never been back (and am especially glad now)..

looks like they've had pest problems in the past:

http://app.toronto.ca/food2/DineSafeMain?userRequest=view_history&;ESTABLISHMENT_ID=9006643
kate / October 8, 2008 at 02:23 pm
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awwwww then eughhhhhhh
apetimberlake / October 8, 2008 at 02:38 pm
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This is very hard to deal with.

When it comes to public health and dine safe, they must know of the rodent/insect problems in the area.

Is there an "acceptable" amount of rats/roaches?

I really don't get it.
JC / October 8, 2008 at 02:49 pm
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Remind me again why I don't eat in Chinatown? Ohh yeah this...
cyndy / October 8, 2008 at 03:12 pm
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it looks like a gopher or something thats way to huge to be a rat ?? isn't it ?? eww i hope so
matt on his bike / October 8, 2008 at 03:13 pm
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Don't be silly. Rats don't confine themselves to Chinatown.
Inferno / October 8, 2008 at 03:14 pm
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Its safe and recommended!
Nice
JC / October 8, 2008 at 03:42 pm
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Of course they don't confine themselves to Chinatown but there have been two publicized cases of rats loose inside Chinatown restaurants in the last year. And I travel through it to work everyday also so I get to see first hand how filthy it really is. Another place with rats running around in the place is The Green Room, disgusting.
Anon / October 8, 2008 at 04:01 pm
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Toronto Public seems to be having serious issues with bribery and not generally doing-their-bloody-job. I've been living above a falafel restaurant for over a year and half and this July our apartment became suddenly infested with roaches. I do mean infested, our kitchen counter has been covered with 30 or more little roaches on many occasions. Even with bare cupboards and nothing on the counter we're still dealing with the problem, and these bastards are a new breed cause a great deal of them do not scurry away when the lights go on. Anygrossness, I've since them and rats dancing around the wide open backdoor of the restaurant and reported the issue to TPH and a week later they got a glowing green card for the window. We've had our placed sprayed and it does absolutely no use unless the cause of the problem, the mess of a restaurant downstairs, gets sprayed. Which they refuse to do...and why would they have a nice pass card right in the window? The worst part is my good friend who works for nearby city's public health was the one who told me to report the situation and she was horrified when she found out it got a green pass. Oh the restaurant is called Falafel House and its just east of Bloor and Ossington north side, just past the Coffee Time.
RBeezy / October 8, 2008 at 04:03 pm
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maybe it's a....watchrat? employed by the owners to keep out the riff raff?
Mark Dowling / October 8, 2008 at 04:21 pm
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I'd love to give TPH the benefit of the doubt but they're the same bureaucracy that gave us Sign Enforcement and thereby illegalsigns.ca
warmflash / October 8, 2008 at 04:25 pm
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I was in China a couple years ago, and much to my horror, they were serving rat meat in the open market. It doesn't surprise me to see a rat at Happy Seven. It may even be on the menu.
apetimberlake / October 8, 2008 at 04:28 pm
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^^ what a prick
Gloria / October 8, 2008 at 04:34 pm
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I imagine that rats can be farmed.
jack / October 8, 2008 at 04:55 pm
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welcome back, Mickey!
Jeremy / October 8, 2008 at 05:42 pm
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These, guys make the best general tao's chicken in the city. Are you sure its a real rat and not one of those fancy Chinese decorative rats? I really don't want to have to find another place for my tao.
Chris Orbz / October 8, 2008 at 05:45 pm
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Am I the only one having posts load incompletely?

This one ends with just "Only this time, " and the Michel de Broin Nuit Blanche preview just ended with "Broin" on a single line.
murphy / October 8, 2008 at 06:12 pm
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I think if Happy Seven had a rat problem so would I. I live upstairs... no vermon or cockroaches for that matter. Honestly if that is a rat it's an isolated incident. None of my neighbours have them either. The only rat we ever see is our landlord.
Alex / October 8, 2008 at 06:30 pm
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I think the rat's out of the bag on City News as well. Hope the blog got credit for breaking the story.
Jerrold / October 8, 2008 at 06:43 pm
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Looks like <a href="http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_27760.aspx"; target=_blank>CityNews sent video cameras</a>... and saw at least three rats.
murphy / October 8, 2008 at 07:24 pm
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bummer.
jack / October 8, 2008 at 07:51 pm
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"These, guys make the best general tao's chicken in the city. Are you sure its a real rat and not one of those fancy Chinese decorative rats? I really don't want to have to find another place for my tao."

tao means rat flavoured in Chinese
Ian / October 8, 2008 at 08:11 pm
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<i>Is there an "acceptable" amount of rats/roaches?</i>

Yes, and no. If you're located in a 100 year old building that is physically attached to other buildings on both sides it's going to be nearly impossible to keep the place 100% pest-free. It's just like how I don't expect to never find a cockroach in my apartment building -- its impossible to completely make them go away. I'm content with seeing a cockroach every few weeks, which is the way it is.

If a restaurant finds mouse droppings in the dark damp corners of their basement and no live vermin, its probably not a big deal. If there are rats dancing on the stove while the kitchen's closed you've got a problem.
Veg / October 8, 2008 at 08:17 pm
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There are some slightly racist jerks in this comment area of this thread, but (that said) why do meat eaters care if there are rats in the restaurant? Why is the rat hanging around different than the cow or pig? It's not that far off, but one you put in your mouth. And it's unlikely the rat didn't touch the cooked food -- and before it was cooked, the pig-cow was much like the rat.

Much ado about nothing, meat eaters.
Jerrold / October 8, 2008 at 08:21 pm
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Rats pooh on food. If they pooh on food that isn't cooked (eg. veggies) and you eat them, there's a health risk. It has nothing to do with carni/omni/herbi choices.
guy lafleur / October 8, 2008 at 09:41 pm
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this thread has taken a colourful turn!

the worst is when rats tigger and rabbit on food, people get up in arms
Briony / October 8, 2008 at 10:36 pm
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Was I the only one who jumped during the video when the still rat jumped into life? That's some scary shit right there.
KL / October 8, 2008 at 10:56 pm
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well it certainly looks well-fed.
sinker / October 8, 2008 at 11:03 pm
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i think torontoist is stealing your stories - this is the second story they have gotten from you today.
js / October 8, 2008 at 11:47 pm
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it's not story stealing, it's sharing content...it's actually my story and i contacted both sites, just to let you know...
Carrie / October 8, 2008 at 11:56 pm
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Wow, that CityNews video is scary, particularly the fact that the Chair of Toronto Board of Health said "if those rats were there at 3pm, they were no longer there by 6pm when our inspector got there." WHAT?! That makes it acceptable?

Oh, and that rat is almost the same size as my cat!
ayl / October 9, 2008 at 12:41 am
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How did I know there would be inappropriate racist comments before even reading them all?
timothyt / October 9, 2008 at 03:10 am
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"tao means rat flavoured in Chinese"

No it doesn't. General Tao is just a name, the military occupation general and a surname Tao. You and Mark Dowling need to take your racism somewhere else.
Jerrold / October 9, 2008 at 07:14 am
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@js

Did you contact CityNews as well? I'm curious if they had a different tipster, or if they just felt like being bold and calling it a "CityNews Exclusive" even though the story was already published here. :)
sippy / October 9, 2008 at 07:53 am
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They actually had a live camera down there this morning, and lo and behold, little fuzzy nuts was right there in the window licking himself.
N / October 9, 2008 at 09:03 am
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That rat is gigantic. Not acceptable. That rating program is not working at all. They should do random checks undercover. Although the vermin infestation is not limited to Spadina, there are quite a few places that have that problem there and since I cannot trust Toronto Health inspectors, I am not dining there.
Max / October 9, 2008 at 09:26 am
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Toronto Public Health inspectors carry out their inspeciton for only about 1h at random times. they don't station a inspector at each restaurant to wait and see if problems occur. The green sign was issued based on that 1h inspection. That's why they ask people to report if they see any infestation.
I don't understand why people are bashing Toronto Public Health, it's not the inspector's fault the rats got into the restaurant. You should blame the restaurant owner for not monitoring his/her place.
Rats and cockroaches are a problem, but they're more common then you think.
Raymond / October 9, 2008 at 09:55 am
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Jesse Ship you've ruined Happy Seven for me. :'(
js / October 9, 2008 at 10:09 am
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@raymond-i've ruined happy 7 for myself as well..sob sob sob...i've always recommended them myself but something like this was to big to keep under wraps..especially with the irony of picture and all...

@jerrold- i still have NO idea how citytv got the lockdown..i think toronto health is in cahoots with them, or maybe they have some reporters listening in on their frequencies because that rat couldnt have been there for more than 20 minutes...
Merk / October 9, 2008 at 10:34 am
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I would like to adopt the rat if possible, he's cute. Can i get him in a take-out container?
Gloria / October 9, 2008 at 10:56 am
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Veg: It's well known many rats live underground, often in sewers. We don't know where the rat's been, or what it's eaten or touched, or whether it carries diseases. It's a matter of cleanliness and health.
nick / October 9, 2008 at 11:12 am
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the problem is that they focus more on restaurant who are 95% clean than area where problems of infection are " huge"....it looks like they scare to give read or yellow signs in that area...somethings is going on
Anon / October 9, 2008 at 11:17 am
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Rats and roaches may very well be more common then we think, however there's a big different between a rat scurrying by in a dark dank cellar and one, or three, fearlessly stretching out and having a wee groom in the morning sun while bystanders and camera people with bright lights watch on. There's also a big difference between a roach or two and full-blown infestation.
Neil F. / October 9, 2008 at 11:42 am
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It looks like Toronto Health "changed their minds" and have decided to close the place down afterall, because of the video/photo evidence. So apparently the chair was wrong when he tried to claim that if the inspector doesn't see evidence firsthand, they don't have the power to shut the place down: http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_27765.aspx/

I'm guessing it was the combined effort of BlogTO, City, Torontoist and whatever other media posted this story that sealed Happy 7's fate... good to know a little public pressure still gets things done.
John Smid / October 9, 2008 at 11:49 am
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I stopped going to Happy Seven about 3 years ago. My wife and I were there and the waitress handed us menus. They had mold in between the laminate and the paper. I motioned to the waitress and pointed this out to her. She takes them away and comes back with new ones...which had "less" mold on them.

"Almost there," she says.

We got up and walked out.
TonyM / October 9, 2008 at 11:59 am
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Toronto Public Health = Good For Nothing.
Pepperlayer / October 9, 2008 at 12:03 pm
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This is actually part of #26, served with steamed rice -- albeit extremely undercooked!!!
Umar / October 9, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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Haven't you guys seen Ratatouille?
There's nothing to worry about here.
Ryan L. / October 9, 2008 at 12:28 pm
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Restaurant was closed down: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/514701
Mel / October 9, 2008 at 12:38 pm
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if you think rats in the restaurant is frightening - you should start to wonder what is in the food......
and btw, that is a normal size rat.. they get even bigger than that...
Eye on TO / October 9, 2008 at 12:58 pm
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The rats know where to dine!
David Topping / October 9, 2008 at 01:01 pm
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Torontoist does not steal content, period.
Valentina / October 9, 2008 at 01:07 pm
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look... this is everywhere, even fancy restaurants in different areas of the city. My house is immaculate yet, I found mouse droppings on my floor the other day... disgusting yes... rare, hell no. If you want to eat out... well, chances are you take home some sort of contamination, personally I won't play russian roulette... arrghhh *disinfects kitchen counters with lysol*
Roger / October 9, 2008 at 01:17 pm
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Maybe they should change the name of the restaurant to "Happy Seven Rats" or "Seven Happy Rats"?
Roger / October 9, 2008 at 01:24 pm
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That part at the end of the CityTV video where the workers of the restaurant were pushing the videographer, that makes me want to go there even less. They weren't even in the restaurant when they were filming. They should be glad they didn't get slapped with assault charges too.
Cormac / October 9, 2008 at 01:41 pm
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speaking of stealing, why does the video say it's a "Torontoist Video"?
Ben / October 9, 2008 at 01:46 pm
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Umar: lol.
Hubert / October 9, 2008 at 02:08 pm
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It is interesting that the rat is soooo fat and stubby that if you tell me it's a pet rat, I would have believe you.

Look at that Rat, it is so fat, it does not even have to worry about getting caught, it just sit there and act cute looking at the camera. It shows that he's part of the pet in the family (obviously), street rats will run like no tomorrow.
Damien / October 9, 2008 at 02:33 pm
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@ Mikey

I can't BELIEVE you said that.
Sean / October 9, 2008 at 02:35 pm
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This whole things looks contrived. Really. Watch the video. And the news spot said that they came back to the window later in the day. Give me a break. But whether its true or not, the food and service and Happy Seven is always great and this is part of the restaurant business sadly. I'm sure that it will be taken care of. Don't let the media scare you off an amazing place to eat.

I'm living in Cali now and I would do anything to get back there for their soft shell crab, even have dinner with one of the rats!
apetimberlake / October 9, 2008 at 02:37 pm
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Mikey and Rob.

Where do you eat then you fucking dirty dick?

I really hope its not at the Keg or Casey's which have been shut down for rodents aswell.

Head back to Acton big boy.
Albert / October 9, 2008 at 03:03 pm
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My, my how the racist comments come out whenever such a story appears. I've seen roaches at Burrito Boyz, vermins at other "higher class" eating establishments. This is an urban problem not just Chinatown. Silly, ignorant people should not post useless comments.
God / October 9, 2008 at 03:15 pm
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I have been working in the restaurant business for almost all my life. None of the restaurants I worked for were free of pests, not even the fancy ones! It's almost impossible to do keep rats and roaches out. They know good foods serve there just like humans do. If you have problem with that then eat at home!!
W. K. Lis / October 9, 2008 at 03:16 pm
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The problem is the same with tenants with cockroaches. Each and every apartment in a building has to be fumigated, not just one. In this case, even if the restaurant does just about everything to get rid of them, if the neigbouring businesses do nothing they will still come back.

That is why Toronto Health has to look at the entire block of businesses and apartments. Those critters will continue to move from place to place.
what? / October 9, 2008 at 04:00 pm
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The best chinese restaurants close early. I've seen rats in the eaton centre. Should we shut them down too?

If you haven't eaten chinese food in 15 years, it's time to get your fat french fry, burger and chicken finger loving a$$ outta your trailor and FYI, general tao and chicken balls ain't chinese food. It's clown food.
Tom / October 9, 2008 at 04:40 pm
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Ah, racist a-holes like "Mikey" sprouting their wings. Racists are like rats.. you'll never completely stamp them out!
apetimberlake / October 9, 2008 at 04:46 pm
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The one thing that is totally out of line with dine safe is the fact that many of places on Spadina (the food marts/supermarkets) recieve Yellow pass after Yellow then a red, then a Yellow again and are still allowed to operate!!!

There should be a cut off where you are closed for good
RD / October 9, 2008 at 04:49 pm
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I think that rat may have just eaten the cat and is now sitting in the window as a warning to the other cats..oh my..
O. Terry / October 9, 2008 at 04:52 pm
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Of course we should close any and every restaurant that has rats. I don't think the idea here is to single out any type of people and their lifestyles.

Hey haters, this is BlogTo not Youtube! Don't post if you're not going to add to the topic and spew hate and racism.
Eye on TO / October 9, 2008 at 05:36 pm
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Mikey/Rob - pls stop posting. The more you post, the more evidence of your ignorance and stupidity you provide. I feel sorry for both of you.
jack / October 9, 2008 at 06:51 pm
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the reality is.. nobody died from eating food from this restaurant.. but a lot of people were dead after eating cold cuts from a famous Canadian Food company..
Uma / October 9, 2008 at 09:03 pm
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Wow, what's with the racist comments?

@ Jerrold: I was watching Citynews this morning and they credited BlogTO for the story... :-)
A Customer / October 9, 2008 at 09:12 pm
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I have not actually been there much but I have to say. I have been in high class restaurant's to see someone from the kitchen shooing out the back things as small as mice to a Raccoon. Once I saw a raccoon sneak from the back into a garbage and last almost 10 minutes, I found it quite humorous. Fact of the matter is, this place is known to be clean, they have never had this problem before and everybody in the area knows, these things find the Tiniest ways to get in and the restaurant sure didn't pass health inspection by shooing out all the rats before the inspector came. I for one await its reopening and plan to go back for the first time in half a year to show my support.
meh / October 9, 2008 at 11:27 pm
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Holy crap is there a full moon tonight? The likes of Mikey/Rob are scurrying out of the woodwork just like the rats. I just can't get over all the racist/ignorant crap being posted here! Wow, just wow....
nippleholic / October 9, 2008 at 11:35 pm
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just to be clear, Mikey everyone who isn't a Native American can be considered the "scum" and "riff raff" who came over here...


not all Chinese people are like that...and it's depressing to see people paint us all with the same brush... no self respecting Chinese person would ever eat sweet and sour anything...that's what we call "gwai lo" food: cuisine invented by white people that's intended to be "Chinese" to lure people, but not invented or eaten by Chinese people...
js / October 9, 2008 at 11:36 pm
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ok...to set something straight, the rat in the window was probably in his death throws and had some how managed to flee to the fountain in the window to dilute the warfarin that was melting his insides. I thought at first that it had gnawed through an electrical wire and was recovering from the shock, but the interpretation from the global reporter did make a lot of sense...
jack / October 9, 2008 at 11:54 pm
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these rats are from Canada, not from China..don't blame the restaurants.. if the city had done its job, this wouldn't have happaned..just look at nyc, the whole city if filled with rats... we are getting to be like nyc..people should really ask with the increase of property tax, where did our tax dollars go?
Jayzee / October 10, 2008 at 12:12 am
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Chinese food is NOT only "Sweet and sour this and honey garlic that". Chinese food is much more than that.

There are other cultures besides the Chinese who are CHEAP. A businessman in China said that the American businessmen were too cheap and he only works with European and Japanese companies.

This is an ignorant and wrong statement: "It's also a known fact that they are the most racist people on the planet, that they believe that they will one day rule the world, because of their numbers."

If China wanted to rule the world thru their population numbers, then why does China have a one baby per family rule? So obviously, your statement is wrong.
Tom / October 10, 2008 at 01:26 am
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To this "Mikey"... did you forget what you said?
"if it moves, ch**** will eat it"
That clearly displays your RACISM. It is also racist because you are generalizing to a whole population. Once you spew hatred like that, especially openly in a forum, we have to take your whole post as biased against a particular group (Chinese in this case) so you lose any credibility. You could have easily made your points without showing what a hate-filled a-hole you really are. Too late though.

"Rob" - some of your points may have merit but at times you are generalizing to all Chinese and that would be racist. If grocery stores along Spadina, run by Chinese people, are unhygienic then it is those Chinese business people for which your comments should be directed. I know of many Chinese people who are very hygienic and don't consume foods that may even hint at being contaminated or "dirty". And they don't eat anything "exotic" or animal insides, etc. Many varied cultures do eat animal organs, and what we would consider "exotic" animals, but that's beside the point.
Mikey / October 10, 2008 at 01:30 am
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Hey Tom, since when is stating the facts considered as Racism? You are one confused individual, for sure!!
Harvey / October 10, 2008 at 02:52 am
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After all it is the year of the Rat!
Marc Lostracco / October 10, 2008 at 04:29 am
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I am surprised this sickening hate speech is allowed to remain in these comments. Did you take a wrong turn at Stormfront.org or something?

(Coincidentally, I'm in China right now as I am typing this, and Mikey doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Surprise, surprise.)
D.Evans / October 10, 2008 at 06:22 am
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P.S. forgot to mention the giant flying roachs from downstairs.
Teena in Toronto / October 10, 2008 at 07:47 am
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This got a mention in today's Toronto Sun:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/514701
not impressed / October 10, 2008 at 09:17 am
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I did a search on Dine Safe website for "South Region" and "Restaurants Closed". Guess what it tells me. I am no Health Inspector, but it would tell me that if approximately 90% of CLOSED restaurants are in the same are (Bathurst, Spadina, Dundas, Baldwin, Agusta) There might be a bigger problem.

Is the Health Department waiting for something major to happen before they act? Should we wait for an outbreak? This is pourely people just doing the BARE MINIMUM at their jobs. So if no one has died, there is no problem?
Should we not have preventative measures? Defensive actions?

Between this, the bedbugs and what ever comes next, I have little faith in Toront Health Department.

Heads should roll.
brad p / October 10, 2008 at 09:41 am
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Wow!!! A huge rat in the window of a restaurant in clear view of a "Pass" from the City of Toronto Board of Health!!! On the positive side, your Toronto Maple Leafs could use this fine fellow to bolster their defensive corps (ha ha). Brad Mtl
Max / October 10, 2008 at 09:51 am
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I have said this before and I will say it again, Toronto Public Health is not the one at fault. They carry out INSPECTIONS, signs are based on short term observation. It is the restaurant owner's responsibility to be sure that the infestaion is CONTROLED, not completed elimated.
You want restaurants to be closed due to little problems? I would say ALL restaurants would be shut down. For those of you that have not worked in a food industry, let me tell you something, NO restaurant is perfect, yes i said NO RESTAURANT.
Think for a bit, at the end of the day, what's the purpose of closing a restaurant? so they can fix the problem, learn their lesson. of couse those with problems get reopened.
For Rob and Mikey, the two who seem to hate chinese from the bottom of their heart. I think both of you should really RELAX for a sec and look at the bigger picture. In fact, travel to china and see how "dirty" it is. EDUCATE YOURSELVES!
Mike Wu / October 10, 2008 at 10:12 am
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Wow Mikey, I caught your post defending (or denying?) your racism... you failed.
The world's a big place, drop whatever traumatic experience you've had with Chinese/Asians and *move on*.
jack / October 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
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"If a Westerner tries to talk to or "pick up" a Chinese girl, except for Hookers, as they will take anybody's money, we are asked two (2) questions. Are you Rich and do you have an American Express card. Oh yea, unless we drive a Lexus or an Infiniti, which are JAPANESE cars, we get the brush off! "

maybe you should tell her you have lots of cash and a big cock?
not impressed / October 10, 2008 at 10:40 am
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In reply to MAX
I too have worked in Restaurants, for 18 years actually. Yes, most Toronto restaurants have issues, but not all, or any of the many restaurants I have worked in have had infestation. I have seen the odd mouse, who if addressed promptly is not an issue.
Yes it is the restaurants responsibility for the problems and for correcting them. However, looking at the history of some of the restaurants in the area, majority have been hit with "Operator fail to provide adequate pest control" and
"Operator fail to prevent a rodent infestation" should this not ring alarm bells?

If an area is infested with rats and is a health concern, than who is responsible?? Not one building, not one restaurant, a section of downtown. If a health inspector finds infestation, what do they do? Write a fine, give them a yellow then go on break? Someone should be looking at this whole DINE SAFE thing on bigger level, not one individual establishment.

How many times can a drunk driver drive drunk before he can't drive again?
apetimberlake / October 10, 2008 at 10:41 am
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MIKEY AND ROB NEED TO MOVE TO CALGARY
apetimberlake / October 10, 2008 at 10:50 am
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And i drive a 1998 Honda.
heather / October 10, 2008 at 10:56 am
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I am absolutely appalled at the racist comments on this forum. Unreal. Is there a moderator for BlogTO or can anyone just spew this racist bullshit claiming they are just being "anti-PC?" Mikey and Rob: sounds like your hatred goes above and beyond a couple of rats in a restaurant downtown. Are you seriously from Toronto?
Brat / October 10, 2008 at 11:46 am
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Do some cultures eat rats?
Kevin / October 10, 2008 at 11:57 am
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I want to know how Toronto Public Heath passed this restaurant. This is an total failure on Toronto Heath as it is the responsibility of healh inspectors to deem a restaurant "safe to prepare and consume food" . The Heath Inspector should be made an example of!! Same as Maple leaf, Toronto Heath needs to close these restaurant down for good.
Briony / October 10, 2008 at 12:02 pm
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Racist rhetoric aside, the one thing that always bothers me when the "Asians cook everything! how can they eat dogs?!" cry goes up is the hypocrisy.

Outrage at eating dog seems pretty ridiculous to me when most people are perfectly fine with eating pigs (who are quite smart), and cows and sheep (who are pretty cute), along with chicken and fish and all the rest. They all feel pain, too.

Dogs and cats are animals just like the rest. We love them and value them, but the cries that it's awful to eat them ring false from someone digging into a nice, juicy steak, or enjoying a chicken-burger. If the thought of the pain and hurt a cute little dog gets to them, why don't they care about other cute animals?

Hindus value cows, we value dogs. It's all just meat, and killing them for food when we could be raising crops on their feeding ground is irresponsible: especially when you consider that being jostled into a slaughterhouse or being caught in a yard and having your throat cut or electrical current in your brain or shot in the head all sucks, regardless of the species.
Damien / October 10, 2008 at 12:08 pm
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@ Rob

"I have lots of Chinese friends".

I love how you pulled that card. As if it makes everything you said okay.

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I think we know that most people in Toronto are of sound mind and completely accepting of all people and cultures. Let's remember and focus on that. Take a deep breath and forget what Mikey and Rob said. They are the minority.

Just like our Grandma's always used to say, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!
SK / October 10, 2008 at 12:09 pm
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All the rat really wanted was to be apart of the menu as the main dish!
Tim / October 10, 2008 at 12:40 pm
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Publisher's note: Some comments and replies have been removed because they are offensive and unconstructive to the discussion.
TD / October 10, 2008 at 01:58 pm
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MAYBE THEY WERE ADVERTISING THE LUNCH SPECIAL?
jack / October 10, 2008 at 07:26 pm
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oh Tim, don't remove them..I am Chinese, I am not offended.. we need to know there are fucked up people out there..we should just post their pics here or reveal their email addresses
j / October 10, 2008 at 11:52 pm
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For those of you wondering how this "slipped past" the Toronto Public Heath officials, I'll have you know that the inspectors don't spend their entire time searching for rats during inspections because they have other hazards to be concerned about as well, such as food handling and cooking temperatures. If there is no evidence to suggest an infestation exists then the PHI has no way of proving that there are rats inside the restaurant. So hypothetically speaking, let's say some rats ARE on the premises, but the restaurant operator has all the droppings cleaned up every morning, then the public health inspectors have little evidence to go on that the rats are in the area and are not allowed to accuse or charge the restaurant for not keeping up with pest control.

As well, a lot of buildings have vermin problems due to cracks in the foundation and garbage pileups in the alleys. The Toronto Public Health unit does what they can to have these issues resolved as quickly and efficiently as possible, but they cannot keep all locations under surveillance 24/7.

For your information, if a rat infestation IS evident, the location will ALWAYS receive either a conditional pass or a fail, depending upon the severity of the issue. In both instances, the TPH will check back on the location until they have solved the problem, otherwise they may be faced with a fine or penalty.
Max / October 11, 2008 at 10:39 am
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reply to "not impressed"

I totally agree with what you wrote. But rodents such as rats don't always hang around the same restaurant, they move around. If the health inspector don't see the rats during inspection should he/she still close down the restaurant? just like police officers need evidence to lock people away, health inspectors need evidence to close down a restaurant or fine the owner.
The inspector who did the inspection on Oct. 2, 2008 of happy seven didn' see any thing wrong with the restaurant AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION so he/she cann't do anything other than pass them.
Chinatown has some of the oldest buildings in toronto, and in chinatown there will always be rats, it's a matter of how to control them and keep out of the food premise. I believe that is still the restaurant owner's responsibility.

Thanks "j" for the comment
RightGirl / October 11, 2008 at 09:01 pm
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You know, I was told years ago by friends never to eat in TO's Chinatown because of the infestation problem. When i arrived in TO in 2004, seven restaurants had just been shut down because of vermin. Clearly there is a problem.

As for all you idiots playing the "rat for dinner" BS - try living in a communist country. You'll find that having pets - or birds in the sky or rats in the sewers - are pretty effing rare when you're starving. If the Chinese eat rat, it isn't because it's a g-damn delicacy. Have a little compassion.

RG
jack / October 11, 2008 at 11:39 pm
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rats have medicinal value.. one of the many ingredients used in medicinal wine... same with cockroaches.. their shells are used in herbal tea..good for any skin ralated problems..
Raphaella / October 12, 2008 at 09:13 am
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The funny thing is that a rat does not have to be seen to be detected(dropings, there is no way that restaurant was so clean that no droppings where seen, the inspector probably didnt even check). These restaurants are paying of the inspectors. What other area in toronto do you see sky high piles of garbage on garbage day??? What other area in Toronto smells like china town??? None!!!! This is so bull sh*t and our city needs to do something about it.
Patrick / October 13, 2008 at 09:15 am
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its very ironic- how the rat was coincidentally sitting right beside the toronto health inspection sign saying "passed"..i doubt this restaurant is going to succeed in the future

i think the downtown area of toronto is having a rat problem in the sewers- thats y u see rats all over the place
Heather / October 17, 2008 at 03:59 pm
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re: Patrick's comment

If the problem is that "downtown toronto is having rat problem in the sewers" which I totally agree on, the government should take responsibility and help get rid of this issue. There's only so much a restaurant owner can do to control pests on their premise. If the infestation exists in the sewers that is the responsibility of the givernment, they should do their part to ensure the infestation is controls underground.
rats in scarboro / November 23, 2008 at 05:47 pm
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This thing looks healthy. Is it pregnant? Because of the high immigrant pop in north east scarboro we don't have many cats. The back of strip malls have quite a vermin population. Anyone who has a vermin infestation, invest in a cat.
Roger / November 23, 2008 at 06:22 pm
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Well, Happy Seven is now <a href="http://torontoist.com/2008/11/happy_seven_happy_no_more.php";>Happy No More</a>. So they finally went out of business last Wednesday.

I guess they couldn't handle all the negative publicity.
Roger / November 23, 2008 at 06:31 pm
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Well, Happy Seven is now <a href="http://torontoist.com/2008/11/happy_seven_happy_no_more.php";>Happy No More</a>. So they finally went out of business last Wednesday.

I guess they couldn't handle all the negative publicity.
Humphrey / January 5, 2009 at 10:46 pm
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"You dirty rat, you the guy that stole my egg-roll !!"

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