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Massive development planned for Front and Spadina

Posted by Chris Bateman / January 29, 2014

toronto the wellSomething big is brewing at Front and Spadina, and if it becomes reality it will drastically alter a 7.7-acre part of Toronto's west downtown core. Today, three major property developers launch The Well, a new mixed-use neighbourhood for the parcel of land currently dominated by the The Globe and Mail office complex, squat grey buildings and surface parking.

As it's currently proposed (and these things tend to change,) The Well will consist of over a million square feet of residential space, a million square feet of office space, a new park, and numerous retail outlets spread between seven mid- to high-rise buildings between Draper, Front, Spadina, and Wellington.

toronto the wellA distinctive, sail-shaped office tower with street level retail is imagined soaring over the corner of Spadina and Front but you will have to take my word for it. No digital rendering of it was made available in time for publication.

"We're trying to do something a little bit different," says Stephen Diamond, President and CEO of Diamond Corp., one of the three developers on the project. "It's really been under-utilized and it's really not a very sightly building that's located there."

The trio of developers - RioCan, Allied Properties, and Diamond Corp. - are touting The Well as Toronto's first "meaningful mix of residential, retail, and office space," and there's certainly plenty of all three on paper. More than half of the interior space will be non-residential.

toronto the wellViewed from the air (sorry, no map yet either,) a central pedestrian laneway arcs through the development with passageways radiating off between the towers. At street level, digital mock-ups show retail units ranging in size from small nooks to large flagship properties. In each of the mixed-use towers above the stores there are a few floors of office space, then condos and rental apartments. There's even a row of townhouses.

"What we wanted to try to do was to create a pedestrian-friendly, main street type of feel," Diamond says. "There may be some weather protection but it wouldn't be air-conditioned or heated. People would have the feeling of walking along the street. No cars would be permitted anywhere throughout the development, except underneath."

"We've kept the buildings lower along Wellington Each building has a different fabric to it," he says. "It will appear as different buildings ... there will be coffee shops and boutique retail stores."

There are very few specifics at this stage, including the overall cost, Diamond says, but the three developers expect to drop in the region of a billion dollars to realize their vision.

toronto the wellBefore The Globe and Mail announced it was moving to a purpose-built facility at King and Berkeley, the newspaper had revealed plans to build its own office complex on the site. Woodbridge Co. Ltd., the paper's parent company, balked at the idea in December 2012 and the lot was sold to the current owners.

Before that, the site was once home to the gorgeous offices of the Northern Railway of Canada, which were designed by William George Storm, the architect behind St. Andrew's Church, University College, and parts of Osgoode Hall. The historic empire-style cottages of Draper Street, built between 1881 and 1882, lie just to the west of the development site.

toronto wellington gardensIn maps of the area dating from the middle of the 19th century this distant west end of Wellington Street is marked "Wellington Place," a broad, tree-lined street that tied together Clarence Square and Victoria Square. Claude Cormier, The Well's landscape architect, imagines restoring that lost green link between the parks with new greenery and an improved sidewalk.

The development will also see an entirely new linear park built on a shelf over part of GO Transit's North Bathurst Yard.

"We looked back in time to see what was originally planned for for Front Street," says Lucy Cameron, Vice President of Diamond Corp. "There was a public promenade that was proposed right along the bay and a terrace. There was also a plan to do a park link between Victoria Square and Clarence Square."

"We're so excited about having ideas that bring back some of those initiatives and have a greening of Front St. with a walking promenade and this park link, which is a really extensive landscape strip to link the two parks ... it's not something that you see in Toronto."

What are your first impressions of The Well? Will the mix of retail, office, and residential space be a boon for the neighbourhood? What don't you like? Sound off.

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toronto the wellLooking southeast across the site from Wellington Street.toronto the wellThe Globe and Mail offices, which will be demolished.toronto the wellDraper Street, which abuts the west end of the site.toronto the wellLooking east on Wellington Street.

Chris Bateman is a staff writer at blogTO. Follow him on Twitter at @chrisbateman.

Images: Diamond Corp., Chris Bateman/blogTO

Discussion

56 Comments

iSkyscraper / January 29, 2014 at 08:46 am
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Freaking fantastic. Like a mini version of Hudson Yards in New York, and much more friendly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards_Redevelopment_Project).

Many of the same organizing thoughts are there, and it just makes sense for the future expansion of downtown. Note how it will make good use of the adjacent improved downtown streetcar infrastructure for connectivity. (Try getting this kind of development done with buses, Ford fans.)

Who is the masterplanner for all of this? Have any architects been selected for the buildings? Claude Cormier is a brilliant choice for landscape architect.
Stephka / January 29, 2014 at 08:50 am
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Hahahaha I wonder which firm iSkyscraper is part of.

What will happen to the heritage homes? They are gorgeous. We need more public spaces not condos. How about parking? What about traffic congestion?

The city is already a mess, how will adding even more to this already congested area help? Have you ever been on portland during peak times? It takes 20 mins to travel 1 city block. Adding this will NOT help.
Brownie / January 29, 2014 at 08:56 am
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Exactly what's needed, even more traffic on Spadina. Our councillors are winning at this planning eh?

With all of these condos how are our land transfer fees so ridiculous high? With more condos in the market, values aren't going up but we're forced to pay ridiculous prices for land transfer fees. More condos like this are encouraging renting vs buying and our city is becoming dark with little sunlight reaching the parks and sidewalks due to all the buildings.

Stop with the insanity. Don't even get me started on the parking situation now. Imagine trying to be in that area during games and concerts now?
tracey replying to a comment from Stephka / January 29, 2014 at 08:58 am
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TOTALLY AGREE !!!!
iSkyscraper replying to a comment from Stephka / January 29, 2014 at 08:59 am
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Given that I live in New York, the answer is none; I am a neutral party when it comes to design firms.

Residential development is what has been powering the city out of its 90s decline -- if you lived or worked downtown in the 90s, you know what I am talking about. You want fewer condos, try Buffalo or Detroit. The key is how to do it right -- and this proposal, at first glance, looks terrific.

Obviously new buildings will come with new underground parking, as per code, though it would be nice to see the regulations relaxed to allow for less parking, zipcars, bike infrastructure, or whatever other tradeoffs might be possible. Congestion will be there, to be sure, but that's the way successful cities work. (For less traffic I again refer you to any rust-belt locale with a dead downtown).

The city is a mess under Ford, but all is not lost. With better decisions and proper investment there is no reason this development and area should not thrive. For example, Ford will want to keep anti-urban devices such as the Gardiner going and will gut streetcar infrastructure if he gets the chance. Is the city going to be a livable city, or some kind of Houston-like office space for people driving in from the suburbs? You decide.
iSkyscraper replying to a comment from Brownie / January 29, 2014 at 09:03 am
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" and our city is becoming dark with little sunlight reaching the parks and sidewalks due to all the buildings."

Yes, because so much more sunlight streams in when everything is a parking lot. (Seriously, I don't think anyone here remembers downtown Toronto circa 1997.)

Quit bashing everything on the basis of parking and anti-condo rhetoric alone.
Rob / January 29, 2014 at 09:05 am
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Just what Front and Spadina needs - more condos! This area is already a DISASTER in terms of congestion.
Pamick replying to a comment from Stephka / January 29, 2014 at 09:05 am
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There are NO parks on the lands being developed, it is currently all private. They are adding a park in an inventive way, as described above. Plus there is already a park literally across the street at Clarence Square.

Plus, this is within walking distance of Union Station, the University line, and downtown core so people wouldn't need to use the King streetcar to get to work, as seems to be your concern. A mixed-use, mixed-height development in this area would be great in what is otherwise a pretty dead stretch.
Leslie and Eglinton / January 29, 2014 at 09:12 am
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Hey guys! Look at me! I'm proof that there still are parcels of land to build on that make sense in the city of Toronto!

I'm a shitload of vacant space with highway access and (soon) rapid transit access! I have a hospital, an institute of higher learning, regular institutes of learning, office towers, and retail only a stone's throw away!

Build here!

Build on top of me!

Or you could just keep building condos right on top of our fucking faces, that's cool too!
Nick / January 29, 2014 at 09:25 am
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We need more iSkyscapers in this city and less Stephkas.
It looks like good development will finally becoming to this incredibly underdeveloped stretch. I really can't believe what's there now. A couple surface parking lots, a car dealership, a 2-4 storey office complex...come on. At the corner of Front and Spadina in the downtown core of Canada's largest city? It's 2014. This is the future. If you want low rise office complexes and large surface parking lots then maybe downtown Toronto isn't your thing.
Chris P / January 29, 2014 at 09:27 am
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I really like this development. But it's seriously time to invest in a downtown relief line on king or queen. Heck, even make one of those an LRT line with only buses and taxis allowed on it.
Joel / January 29, 2014 at 09:33 am
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It all looks better than what they've just proposed for the bottom of Pape south of Eastern Ave.
Sean / January 29, 2014 at 09:36 am
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Putting aside the lack of details, on its face this sounds like a pretty amazing development, and one that would be a good fit on the site and in the context.
Condo Condo Condo / January 29, 2014 at 09:37 am
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Tons of retail space? Most likely a Rabba, dry cleaners, Tim's, a fast food outlet and maybe a dentist. And maybe the Winners from up the street will relocate. Good luck. And wait until they build the satellite Union Station here. Great spot for redevelopment, but I suspect the retail part will get scaled down and the commercial part will get scaled down and we'll end up with another ugly condo development.
Todd / January 29, 2014 at 09:40 am
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Those expecting something promising are either:

1. new here
2. being willfully ignorant
3. think "we're the government and we're here to help" is the truth
yo Rob-Blob replying to a comment from Rob / January 29, 2014 at 09:47 am
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What congestion at Front and Spadina??? I don't ever recall there being a problem getting around down there.

Oh wait...that's because I ride a BIKE. Like a lot of people in the city, I'm not stupid enough to own a car in a major metropolitan centre that has both great transit and a ton of car-sharing/rental options.

Lose the wheels, moron.
shells / January 29, 2014 at 09:52 am
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are you people not actually reading the part where it says half of the available space will be office, park, and retail? no? didn't catch that? just condo condo condo traffic traffic traffic? I'm not sure I understand why one would bother living downtown if the idea of high density living is offensive.

completely separate is the issue of transit and how and why we aren't holding our city representatives accountable to building transit properly. raise or create a specific tax, but have a website that specifically details how those funds are being sent and have a bi-monthly presentation at city hall of the same. why is that so difficult?

Think. speak. articulate. have ideas. It's a city. not grand theft auto.
W. K. Lis / January 29, 2014 at 10:11 am
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A million square feet of office space is a start. It is better is more employment areas are to created. Having JUST residential is not the way to go. That way more people can walk or take transit to and from work.
e-machine replying to a comment from yo Rob-Blob / January 29, 2014 at 10:13 am
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your comment is insinuating that people who own cars downtown are "stupid". sorry, i understand that's your opinion but that is an unfair and ignorant assessment.

my girlfriend and i both live in the core and we both own vehicles. our work requires us both to drive as taking transit is not time-efficient and feasible. (ie. it would take me almost 2 hrs to take transit to work while 15 mins to drive and she needs to make random stops throughout the day)

congestion down there is a problem, yes. but how many of those drivers are actually residents of that area or the core, to be more specific?
BillyO / January 29, 2014 at 10:29 am
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This is a great proposal, what a refreshing change from an all towers concept like CityPlace, which will now allow for CityPlace to now be even more integrated with the west downtown area. Also, nice to see brick/stone and less glass. This is amazing especially considering the Globe was just going to build one office tower here. We still get office but great residential/retail. And the Globe added office to the East side (which it could use more of) on King in the furniture row. This is the kind of panning Toronto needs.
Andi / January 29, 2014 at 10:55 am
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WONDERFUL IDEA! BRING ON THE WELL!
Astin / January 29, 2014 at 10:56 am
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"Oh noes! More traffics!"

The problem isn't increased density or more towers - those are ultimately GOOD things for a city. It's the lack of INFRASTRUCTURE BEING BUILD to support these. With this boom, there should be massive transit investment downtown - the DRL, better streetcars or LRTs, bike lanes, better pedestrian access, and improved means of getting to and from downtown from outside the city.

Some of these are happening (streetcars, and increased GO service), and of course the DRL is being discussed frequently, but these should have already happened years ago.

So stop blaming condos and office towers, and start blaming the politicians.
Amice / January 29, 2014 at 10:57 am
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I think it's an interesting development, definitely good to see more employment space. I would hope that the retail suites are not built so large as to prohibit smaller businesses from affording to rent them.

My concern with the proposal is the loss of other built cultural heritage resources within the development site. The article mentioned retaining the empire-style cottages on the west side of Draper, but what about incorporating the homes on the east side of draper? Incorporating these two storey homes into the development as retail spaces could offer a diversity of commercial space for smaller businesses, and would help to maintain the feel of the street. Since the article mentioned that the proposal says this complex will appear as different buildings on street level, it seems like an even better idea to retain these structures to create some architectural diversity for the facade of the new buildings.
tripper / January 29, 2014 at 10:58 am
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Why does growth and change instill such fear into the hearts of Torontonians? You people do realize you live in a city, right? A big one. Healthy, vibrant cities grow and neighbourhoods change and become denser. If they don't then they're in trouble. And that includes new buildings and developments that may or may not suit your particular taste.

Yes, our lagging infrastructure and transit system is a problem. But that's because we keep electing crack-heads and councilors who prefer to do nothing. Toronto is growing in spite of City Hall, not because of it.

I think a lot of you would be happier living in a tent in an open field. Lots of parking and no traffic congestion. But even then you'd probably whine about the tent being erected 500 metres away. This field used to be awesome and special and now it's becoming gentrified!
dafuqstonr replying to a comment from Brownie / January 29, 2014 at 10:58 am
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You do realize you live in a CITY right? If you don't like city life, move out of the city.
JohnnyD / January 29, 2014 at 11:08 am
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Wow. It's too early to know about the quality of the final result, but this seems very nice indeed.

I've one big question though: isn't this where Metrolinx is investigating building a new station to relieve the pressure on Union?
Todd replying to a comment from Tony Monaco / January 29, 2014 at 11:25 am
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Great, another 905 parasite.

Guess you don't attend concerts or dinners downtown, do you?

Pay your damn share, you welfare case.
Tony Yawn-aco replying to a comment from Tony Monaco / January 29, 2014 at 11:26 am
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Sorry Tones, TL:DR

Besides, I'm now sixteen blocks ahead of your car because I cycled to work today and you're still stuck on the off-ramp chewing on (now palpable) road rage.

lister replying to a comment from yo Rob Blobz / January 29, 2014 at 11:31 am
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You're either out right being a troll or you have a very typical attitude of many of the "my-bicycle-is-my-lifestyle" crowd. (It's not a lifestyle, it's a method of transportation.) I have some friends that are exactly like you.

I live and work downtown. I have a five minute commute via walking. I walk just about everywhere down here. I sometimes though take the TTC when I have to. I also cycle and rollerblade. I also, *GASP*, have a car. My most frequent use of the car is for grocery shopping where it's too much of a pain otherwise to deal with a large amount of groceries. I also use the car to go beyond the confined realms of Parkdale, Bloor St and the Don River (which likely you rarely do), frequently going up north where not surprisingly transit and bicycles aren't a convenient option.

I live at King & Spadina so I'm very familiar with the area especially the southern end of Spadina and what the traffic is like during rush hour, special events and during the summer Friday and Saturday nights. It's awful. I use my car, when I have to, accordingly because sitting in traffic sucks ass.

I have used car rental services like ZipCar and Car2Go before. If I didn't have to go outside the city as often as I do, I'd likely ditch my car and use those services more.

Being on topic, I for one welcome this development. I don't think it's going to add too much more traffic to the roads. We do need to concentrate on getting the DRL going as well as dealing with how slow the Queen and King streetcars can be at times. I'd personally like to see all street parking and stopping gone 24/7 along those streets.
David Fleming / January 29, 2014 at 11:33 am
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First of all, I'm glad this isn't a City Place project. Secondly, the area does need more retail stores and commercial space. It would be nice to have a learning center, library or something educational for young people or children who may live in the area. Is this going to be the case? Probably not. At the end of the day, developers will be building more condos in an area already filled with them. Someone above mentioned the immense traffic in the area and how another condo would negatively affect the flow of traffic. It's a good point but I would hope that most of the people who want to live in the area are commuters who plan to get around using TTC, bikes, and/or by walking. There is potential here and I am looking forward to see what the developers do with it. Lets hope they don't mess this one up.
J. MacMillan / January 29, 2014 at 11:34 am
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Great project!
Gary / January 29, 2014 at 11:42 am
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I live on this street and my office is actualy on the site being discussed meaning we'll be looking for a new home when its all done. Having said that. I think this is a really good basic blueprint. They've addressed a lot of concerns voiced by the neighbourhood (and it is a neighbourhood). Sure Front and Spadina is congested. It is one of the main arteries in and out of the city. Are you suggesting not having any development in the city because drivers from Brampton find it hard getting on the Gardiner? There are two beautiful parks at either end of Wellington. There s virtually no significant retail for grown ups in this part of the city. A few less nightclubs and a few shops wouldn't be the worst thing to consider. Honestly, do you people have pre-written cranky Troll comments ready for any proposal? Its much better than the usual nonsense.
TOguy / January 29, 2014 at 11:46 am
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Everything new is bad! Go away evil developers! Why don't they just build more century homes? Everyone should just BUY one of those. Geez, who are these RENTERS anyways? You know what, just ban condos/cars/food trucks/anything new because I like everything just the way it is!
Karen Pottruff (@KarenPottruff) replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / January 29, 2014 at 11:46 am
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The Globe & Mail will benefit financially from its sale of land.
Jack Diamond is one of the architects involved, if I'm not mistaken.
Stephanie replying to a comment from David Fleming / January 29, 2014 at 11:51 am
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The new (and fabulous-looking) Fort York library branch will be a very short walk away. Not sure what space is like in the local elementary schools now (e.g., Brock school, which is nearby), but at least the city seems to have stopped slating some of them for closure, as was the case 5-10 years ago. I would imagine there's still some room for school-population increase.
yo Rob Blobz replying to a comment from lister / January 29, 2014 at 12:15 pm
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Hi Lister,

Nah, I was just pulling Rob's chain is all, guy's a putz for taking me seriously.

And it just so happens that I agree with all the progressive comments on here. AND the car comments. Many who live downtown not only have to drive, but choose to be --hey-- driving is awesome. I actually have the use of a car for 8 days of the month, and it's often as wonderful as it is maddeningly evil--different strokes for different folks, really. But for many, the thought of ownership is beyond a nightmare (I'm in that group), and which is why Car2Go, Zip and Autoshare (plus my handy Discount) are there to fill in the gaps.

Anyway...re: this development, this is an amazing step in the right direction, and exactly what the area needs. People may cry foul at the traffic bottleneck it'll create/only add to, but that'll only spur the DRL that much quicker.

It's a great size, it's attractive, it fits with the four completely diverse faces it has to address (seriously...think of all four streets and what they need/what can be massed there).

Too, it'll knit the (once barren) western edge of Front to both Cityplace and Fort York. Throw in the development at Garrison Point, and you have a certain kind of cohesion happening from Dufferin through to Rogers Centre.

Why...get the southern extension of the Railpath finished south of Dundas, and you've connected the Triangle to the core. Mind: blown!

So...yeah. Good things all, this. And Rob/his ilk can still suck a tailpipe. ;)
Feet on the ground / January 29, 2014 at 12:49 pm
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This is exactly the progressive type of mixed use facility development we need in DT. I just hope they fit a grocery store in there to complete the live, work, eat, sleep within walking distance theme.
Zi / January 29, 2014 at 01:07 pm
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Gotta agree with yo Rob Blobz. Most streets downtown were barely made to accommodate two lanes of horse and buggy traffic, forget about streetcars carrying far more people than a few cars ever could, delivery vans and trucks, tons of cars with only 1 person in each, and taxis trying to kill all of us.

I've zipped past block long row of cars on my bike. Rode my bike home from downtown in less time than waiting for a streetcar and then the subway. And on a bike, I'm seated. Unlike the TTC where I hope I find a corner to stand. And I signal turns. And I stop at stop signs. And I've never ringed my bell to make pedestrians move faster. All behaviours I've seen drivers do all too often.

I've also walked thru empty intersections because some driver hasn't learned the meaning of a one way sign. Walked past rows of stagnant cars because they only move up a few cars when the light changes. And I laugh. Laugh because I don't have to bother with the expense of a car. And I'm healthy and don't require copious amounts of medicine to live thru the day.
jen replying to a comment from Amice / January 29, 2014 at 01:08 pm
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Not to worry, they won't be touching any of the homes on Draper. They are all heritage listed and owned by people who will do anything to protect the beauty of their street. The development will go in beside them.

I hope they keep the old McGregor sock building. It's lovely.
Alex replying to a comment from Stephka / January 29, 2014 at 02:05 pm
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This looks promising! I don't understand some of the comments here. Lost of people saying they want more parks and public space yet at the same time want to drive there (and probably by it). Why is it still hard for people to understand that the city should not just be the place you drive through? I fully agree on the need for more parks (and usefully sized ones) but more "parking", just
Alex replying to a comment from Alex / January 29, 2014 at 02:08 pm
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.... because it shares a few of the same letters, does not count. (excuse the typos, but you get my point, right?) I just don't get it - finally a decent development and people dump on it...
Todd replying to a comment from Alex / January 29, 2014 at 02:13 pm
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Parking is definitely an issue.

More parking structures = fewer cars parked on roads.

Then again, making a streetcar right away and banning street parking is something that should have been done years ago, in theory, but the infrastructure still isn't there.

Anyone thinking this development will be a success is forgetting, just like the city for the last 40 years, about the most important thing: people need to move around.
ZF / January 29, 2014 at 03:54 pm
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Maybe this is a silly suggestion but while we're ripping up the roads, tearing down structures and digging big holes.. can we think 10 years down the line for once and consider putting in a connecting subway line... runs down front... meets with the current Go Rail and travels north connecting to Bloor.. oh wait this is Toronto, never mind.
JP / January 29, 2014 at 06:45 pm
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God it is so Toronto to see a pedestrian focussed, mixed use, relatively low density exciting project like this (replacing a wasteland) and complain about the traffic it might make.

This is great. This is the kind of thing we should be building here. Go for it.
JP replying to a comment from JP / January 29, 2014 at 06:48 pm
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I make that comment FULLY acknowledging that the DRL is a must, even without this development. Or something like this: http://www.urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/07/cityrail-concept-real-regional-rail-gta
Casal / January 30, 2014 at 12:42 am
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Could be really exciting and beautiful, if proper vision is dedicated to this mega-project. However, I see lots more condos (and a lot more traffic). I don't see a community being build: where are the city planners on this? Are these news homes for families or are they just more 1 bedroom condos? Is there a new library slated? Proper green spaces (a green walkway doesn't cut it), public parking? Any schools? Essentially, are we building more shelving units for people to sleep in, or is Toronto finally going to build neighbourhoods out of its downtown space?!? Shame on City Councillors for neglecting and hating on Toronto so much!! I am so dismayed and fed up at the exploitation this city has fallen victim to!
dundas and sherbourne / January 30, 2014 at 07:44 am
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oh, WELL...could same developers take a look at my neighbourhood...PLEASE!!!
bush / January 30, 2014 at 09:30 am
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This much downtown land should never be in the hands of 1 corporation! As I predicted in the 80's, living on Draper Street will one day be unbearable. This day has come. Too bad we have to destroy beauty in order to make way for profits.
kn / January 30, 2014 at 04:31 pm
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THE CONDO WILL SOLVE ALL ILLS. These aren't the only high rises going up next to Spadina. There are 8 to 10 more going up between Queen And Dundas fully approved by Mr. Vaughan. I can't wrap my head around how he thinks. He stands up publicly and says he's all for good design and community but then he fully approves the overdevelopment of Alexandra Park by Tridel. How about the city build another St Lawrence market type place for all of the condo dwellers already located in this area? Build diverse housing typology that will include families. Councillors should be required to go to Finland to see what good design is. (My god this is going to be one awful wind tunnel when they are done.)

Also, to all the people of Kensignton market. YES there is going to be a wall of condos along Dundas 20 stories high. The Kensington market you know and love is about to be completely destroyed.
seve / February 1, 2014 at 01:35 pm
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I would love to own/lease retail in this new complex.

Anyone got a lead....
Spike replying to a comment from Chris P / February 3, 2014 at 01:40 am
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Unfortunately, the DRL can only be a subway, for a lot of reasons.

@kn: You're right about the need to build diverse housing that would include families, as well as our local politicians needing to go to places like Finland on a study vacation (with Vaughn at the head of the list of politicians that need to do this.)

Again, I with that thees places could be built in the suburban areas of Toronto that desperately need it, but money and status talks.
septegenarianNIMBY replying to a comment from Brownie / February 5, 2014 at 11:57 am
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Oh the traffic, the traffic, won't someone think of the children! I tell ya what granny...If you don't like the traffic move to Caledon or Halton Hills. This is exactly what the area needs...it's a parking lot surrounded by single use residential and people are ticked because the buildings are 5 or 6 stories too high ... no wonder this city is a$$ backwards ... the sunlight, the sunlight, I'm going to have to buy a vitmin d light!

PS: A higher proportion of people in condos downtown use transit, walk and bike...but if yer concerned about the traffic perhaps you could use the train if ye want yer games and concerts without the traffic ... GO is going to all day 30 minute service
Amice replying to a comment from jen / February 16, 2014 at 03:02 pm
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Glad to hear it, I'm not familiar with this neighbourhood's residents but go by it often.

Is the McGregor sock building currently tenanted?
Ted Genova / March 3, 2014 at 01:08 am
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Great new development. Hopefully the template for other areas of the downtown. I live and have a store in the St. Lawrence market area and this is just the type of development we need , not like the monstrosity planned for the SW corner of Front and Sherbourne.there should be respect for the mid rise,hiistorical context of the neighbourhood.
AG / March 10, 2014 at 04:47 pm
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what is with all the complaints about this? so what about congestion? this is freakin downtown, you shouldn't be driving there anyway. leave your cars at the ttc station. this looks great.
sprat replying to a comment from yo Rob-Blob / April 6, 2014 at 08:57 pm
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You said great transit

lmao

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