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The Toronto casino now has a website

Posted by Robyn Urback / February 20, 2013

Toronto CasinoToronto's not-yet-confirmed casino is now real, at least, on the Internet. Like Manti Te'o girlfriend, the currently imaginary casino now has its very own website, complete with information on potential job growth, tourism projections, casino employee salary expectations, and links to connect with your local councillor. No Casino Toronto is on the other end of the (web) spectrum, offering a less flashy take on casino information and no photos of the Canadian International Air Show.

The MGM Resorts website makes the case for Exhibition Place as Toronto's casino destination, claiming that, "The site will attract one million new visitors to Toronto annually, provide the city with millions of dollars per year in new revenue streams, and create up to 10,000 new jobs locally."

Discussion

117 Comments

CShef / February 20, 2013 at 04:47 pm
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Toronto is a world class city and it's about time that we have a world class casino to go with it. The Oxford proposal would have the casino right in the heart of downtown. The congestion (already at unsustainable levels) would go through the roof with the addition of this casino/hotel/retail/convention centre to the downtown core. I think this is the best use of the Ex land.. here's to hoping that the 'left' doesn't find a way to unnecessarily shoot this down!
Toronto Web Developer / February 20, 2013 at 04:54 pm
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A website that sucks......your MGM make a great website for MGM Toronto..... this is garbage
Khristopher / February 20, 2013 at 04:55 pm
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The site is not loading for me.
auditcouncillorsnow / February 20, 2013 at 04:56 pm
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all bribes all have been paid out to city councillors. it's a done deal. these people have more money than donald trump. a 5 mil referendum on a previous casino bid that didn't pass is peanuts to these people.
Milo / February 20, 2013 at 04:58 pm
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I really hope this happens -- I'm tired of shitty places like Innisfil getting funding from stuff like this.

The last place a casino should be is in the 905.
margarets replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 04:58 pm
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"World class"? Really? That stale meaningless phrase is a big red flag for a really lame idea. Astroturf better.
george replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 05:03 pm
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what a shill! hilarious.
Cshef replying to a comment from margarets / February 20, 2013 at 05:09 pm
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Thanks for being so constructive. Your contribution to the conversation is immeasurable
Jay / February 20, 2013 at 05:16 pm
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One million new visitors? Who wouldn't have considered Toronto previously? From where? I thought all the large cities within driving distance already had a casio or two nearby.
Bernard replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 05:31 pm
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Who says a world class city needs a casino? Atlantic City has lots of casinos, and how much good did they do?
chrisjemery replying to a comment from Cshef / February 20, 2013 at 05:31 pm
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Hey C Shef, your contribution isn't exactly constructive either:

"here's to hoping that the 'left' doesn't find a way to unnecessarily shoot this down!"

I'm on the left, and I welcome a casino. How about not making this a left-right issue, as that would be more constructive. Okay?
OrangeJuice / February 20, 2013 at 05:32 pm
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Oh man... I hate this city. I was born in downtown Toronto 21 years ago and I can't wait to get out. I am so excited to not have to spend all of my paycheque on rent in a disgusting basement apartment and $120 for a transit pass, elbow my way past rude, pretentious people just to get on a stuffed subway car. I'm going somewhere where the people are genuine, the air is fresh and I don't have to cross twelve lanes of traffic to get to a lake.
OrangeJuice / February 20, 2013 at 05:32 pm
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and where there's no casino or any plan any time in the far future for a casino.
joe Fresh replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 20, 2013 at 05:58 pm
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Funny how you mention pretentious. From reading your post, you seem like a pretentious, entitled person.
I say, BUH BYE!
The city needs less of people like you. Go move to the suburbs where you clearly belong!
joe Fresh / February 20, 2013 at 06:03 pm
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I on the other hand, fully support a casino and I would be as some of you call a lefty.
Bring the casino! I want a casino!

The excuse of it attracting problem gamblers is just stupid. Like any addict, a problem gambler will find any way to gamble. Online, Drive 3 hours, Drive downtown, go to the corner store.

Cannot wait until the casino is built!
lol / February 20, 2013 at 06:32 pm
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Hopefully councillors like Vaughan will be out voted and we will get a casino! I can not wait!
Jkay / February 20, 2013 at 06:48 pm
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Can you imagine taking public transit or taking the train to work every morning? It's congested as is!
Geoff / February 20, 2013 at 07:30 pm
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What a gutter idea. How can anyone get behind a business model that operates on deceit and cheats people.
Josh / February 20, 2013 at 07:46 pm
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SO what's the URL? If were gonna say they have a website what is the URL? I'd like to post, promote, promoted posted, target and re-target. Please post the URL I shouldn't have to dig on a post titled - The Toronto casino now has a website... I'm on a mobile phone right now, shouldn't have to click through to get the URL.
Tayna / February 20, 2013 at 07:47 pm
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We should have a casino here.... there are tons of "weekend" casinos run here and there and the city doesn't see a dollar of it.
Don replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 20, 2013 at 07:50 pm
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Your not the first of a generation that can't live up too or surpass what your parents did for you or provided to you... Just watch as many newcomers to the city strive and survive while you throw your hands up and walk away and blame the city...

Until mom and/or dad pass on and leave you what they've worked for...
Maria / February 20, 2013 at 07:50 pm
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Get used to it peeps. They're coming whether you all like it or not.
Don replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 20, 2013 at 07:52 pm
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If you can't wait - there's via trains - go trains - airplanes and buses leaving hourly that can take you somewhere else... If you mean it get on it... Get outta here
CShef replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 07:56 pm
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Oh second thought, dump this monstrosity on the 'burbs. Let Markham or Etobicoke deal with this mess, ugh!
Daniel replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 20, 2013 at 07:57 pm
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Where you gonna go there OJ - Vancouver? Ohh they have casinos already.... Winnipeg? Ohh they have casinos and VLT slot machines in every bar... Calgary... Oh they have casinos already too...Quebec? Ohh they have Casinos too...Halifax?? Ohh they have Casino Nova Scotia as well....
Joe Fresh / February 20, 2013 at 08:03 pm
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What i do not understand is people like Geoff above me, state "How can anyone get behind a business model that operates on deceit and cheats people"
There is a simple answer.
Don't go to the casino. Nobody is forcing you to step foot in the thing.
My decision to go to a casino is mine and only mine. Who are you to impose your views on others?
Clearly there are many who are for the casino and many who are not.
If you do not want a casino, then don't visit it once it is built. However, i really hope that you do not live in a condo downtown because then you would just be ignorant to think that a casino is going to bring traffic congestion, as if the condo you live in does not add to the congestion.
Condo's are a bigger problem to congestion then a casino.
DistressedOnBathurst / February 20, 2013 at 08:28 pm
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Ohh Government Please Save us from ourselves!!! I can't predict how myself or my neighbours my react if a casino is put in... I rely on you government for my self control, you've already saved me from alcohol by not allowing it in grocery and convenience stores. You let me down with this whole Sunday shopping thing, but I've come to terms with it now. The city doesn't need you money casino, we don't need money for transit, school programs, the arts or social assistance...we've been operating just fine without you..we have no complaints.
Janet / February 20, 2013 at 08:37 pm
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Read the foot notes, fight against gv a problen
GAIL replying to a comment from Janet / February 20, 2013 at 09:03 pm
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What is a footnote? To start with it's one word "footnote"
http://answers.ask.com/Education/Libraries/what_is_footnotes
GAIL replying to a comment from Janet / February 20, 2013 at 09:07 pm
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Ohh and also try and not use acronym's that only make sense to you. i.e. "gv".

If you're responding to someone please click the reply arrow button so that we know whom you're addressing or your comment make no sense.

AND lastly give a quick read, or spell check before you hit "add comment" its easy to correct mistakes like the word problen - your statement means nothing.
Bubba replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 09:24 pm
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FUCK CASINOS!
Nate replying to a comment from joe Fresh / February 20, 2013 at 09:43 pm
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Your rationale that problem gamblers will drive anywhere shows that you seem to operate under an assumption that the number of problem gamblers is static and will always remain the same. Your logic fails to realize that building a new casino will create new problem gamblers, perhaps to some locals who have yet to ever step inside a casino. People become problem gamblers because of the opportunities placed around them, not because random people wake up with an obsessive urge to endlessly pull the lever on a slot machine. Don't try to be the hero that finds a quick way to summarize this issue (as with condo developments), it's unfortunately more complicated than you perceive it to be.
ummmmm replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 10:03 pm
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newsflash etobicoke is toronto.
CShef replying to a comment from ummmmm / February 20, 2013 at 10:18 pm
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"newsflash etobicoke is toronto".

Yeah...SURE it is. Why everyone goes there all the time. Some of my best friends go there, I'm sure.
jameson / February 20, 2013 at 10:24 pm
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The thing that stinks about this casino business is that it's being rammed down on throats by the province. If the City is going to get a casino it should be on our terms. It should be done in a way that makes our local politicians accountable, not the OLG.

If anything the City should vote on it then decide on a location then put the proposals in a competition and hold public meetings to decide not only the winner but the design and how this design fits into the city building goals.

We should be leveraging the private interest for our benefit, not to the benefit of the OLG.
CShef replying to a comment from ummmmm / February 20, 2013 at 10:39 pm
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Seriously though, casinos are lame. They only invite vermin and losers who can't have fun in a normal fashion. Hence the "burbs" crack, which I still stand by. Let THEM deal with the dead hookers, crack pipe bushes and inevitable DUI deaths. (speaking of Etobicoke on Saturday night...)
skazzberry 2.0 replying to a comment from CShef / February 20, 2013 at 10:53 pm
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Toronto? World Class? Sorry... it is a large city and a decent one at that but it is NO London, Milan, New York or L.A or remotely even close to that.

CC / February 20, 2013 at 11:03 pm
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I'm happy to see this comment stream disprove the all-to-easy soundbite that the 'left' is universally anti-casino, or development, or fun. I'd put myself on the left of the political spectrum, and I'm excited for the tourism boost, top-shelf architecture, and energy that a destination like this COULD bring to our city. There are pros and cons to ANY development, but hopefully with the right team & process in place, and as long as the Ontario and Toronto governments fight for a decent deal, we could see something really positive added to our growing city.
PRIPOOP / February 21, 2013 at 12:08 am
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Could be good, could be bad.... I, for one, am willing to give them a chance. What may come of it? Who knows? As Canadians, and particularly, as Torontonians, I think we suffer from a "stick in the mud" complex - unwilling to accept any change. This is something that we could benefit from. On the other hand, it could be a steaming pile of shit.
Aaron / February 21, 2013 at 12:19 am
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"A million tourists" Yeah, they'll all be skipping Monte Carlo, Macau, Singapore and Vegas to hang out at Exhibition Entertainment Wasteland (EEW) in the middle of January!
Steven / February 21, 2013 at 04:32 am
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Great place for homeless people to walk in and warm up 24 hours of the day in the winter months.
Rob replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 21, 2013 at 10:10 am
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I agree with you totally. It's an unspoken thing that's hard to quantify in a city full of people only interested in Toronto for the purposes of making money. Like me, you are a dying breed- an actual, bonafide born and raised Torontonian. And like almost all of them, you're getting the hell out before you turn 30. Let the transplants and immigrants have the city. It sucks now, but with their only frame of reference being Dhaka or Woodstock, they don't know it. Let them think it's amazing as it actually swirls the bowl. Me and you, we'll be happy elsewhere and we'll be trying to recreate what made Toronto interesting before capitalism destroyed its soul.
well then.... replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 21, 2013 at 10:11 am
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simple answer......get the fuuuuuuuuck outta the city!
well then.... replying to a comment from Rob / February 21, 2013 at 10:15 am
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perfect, you can join orangejuice and get the fuuuuuuuuck outta the city too. Whats taking you so long if you hate Toronto so much?
Andrew replying to a comment from OrangeJuice / February 21, 2013 at 10:21 am
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OJ, take me with you. This city is going to hell in a handbasket... God forbid we add something cultural or family-friendly to the city. Instead they're touting all the jobs this will create. Seriously? A windowless monstrosity on prime realestate on the lakefront, brilliant idea.
Rob / February 21, 2013 at 10:29 am
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Unfortunately, some of us don't have insta-mobility and have obligations that need to be resolved before completing a major move, asshats. Not everyone has a blank check from daddy to help them move around the world.
John E / February 21, 2013 at 10:33 am
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I, for one, welcome our new casino overlords.
Andrew replying to a comment from Rob / February 21, 2013 at 10:54 am
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Easy boy! No need for name-calling. And I wouldn't still be here if I didn't have my own obligations too. As for a "cheque from daddy", I am a father, I write the cheques and pay the taxes and the bills.
Rob replying to a comment from Andrew / February 21, 2013 at 10:54 am
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Not talking about you. We're in agreement... I'm talking to the asshat above you.
Andrew replying to a comment from Rob / February 21, 2013 at 11:29 am
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Ah, thanks Rob. I hear you. LOL
j-rock replying to a comment from CShef / February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am
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Sure, because anyone who is opposed to a casino is automatically a part of "the left". Grow up.
Indict mayor McCheese / February 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm
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The consultations are merely window dressing to put a nice face on the bribes that have already been paid. I hate the idea, but this is happening. I'm sure the mysterious "folks" and "taxpayers" that Rob Ford is always talking to have been asking him for " A Casino! A Casino! A Casino!"
s. subtle replying to a comment from CShef / February 21, 2013 at 01:07 pm
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@ CShef How much did they pay you for that plug?
Linden / February 21, 2013 at 06:20 pm
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I really hope they put this casino at Buttonville Municipal Airport in Markham, as this article suggest. I think it will compliment the area, wherever that is.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/developers-propose-radical-makeover-for-toronto-casino-site/article8907998/
Noah / February 22, 2013 at 10:39 am
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In other words, another American enterprise, ha! Good old Canada, i mean old USA. No culture, it's a city to make money, and everyone else is left in the shitter. The ones that think it's great and world class are deslusional, Montreal is already world class, and has less people.
PoorRob...Literally replying to a comment from Rob / February 22, 2013 at 04:30 pm
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"Unfortunately, some of us don't have insta-mobility and have obligations that need to be resolved before completing a major move, asshats."


Oh Rob...did you knock up another pretty young thang, dawg???
Sousedbergin / February 25, 2013 at 05:15 pm
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If Torontonians were actually concerned about people gambling all there money away we'd stop condo construction.
Rich / February 26, 2013 at 08:38 pm
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A casino anywhere on the waterfront, including the EX grounds, would be a total waste of waterfront property, after all casinos don;t have windows so people can be reminded of the time passing so why waste a scenic location with them? If we must have a casino put it at Woodbine, there's easy highway access and it would keep horse racing alive in this region. We should be keeping the waterfront lands for uses that benefit the waterfront or benefit from being somewhere scenic like the waterfront. Once you;re inside a casino you never see outside of it so it could just as effectively be built underground. I like the idea if expanding convention space downtown, even along the waterfront since people at conventions do get outside and attend near by attractions which are plentiful downtown. Any casino downtown or along the waterfront will cost nearby cultural and entertainment businesses lost business since people in casinos don;t leave for entertainment for other venues, they stay inside the casino. Woodbine can handle the parking and the cars and there's very little in the way of cultural or entertainment venues in the area that would be harmed by its presence there. If we keep building such permanent structures at the EX where will the EX go?
Roscoe / March 4, 2013 at 05:12 pm
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We shouldn't build a casino because casinos don't make money for cities.
Aside from the considerable social costs that I understand many on the "right" are happy to ignore, there are far too many examples of money losing casino ventures to argue on their behalf from a business case.
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How is it that they who seem to know the least seem to say the most. The problem with Casinos is compulsive gamblers and the problem for compulsive gamblers is machine gambling. Take away the slot, poker and electronic blackjack/baccarat games and you take away most of the problem gambling. Problem gambling is although not exclusively, frequently a woman's dirty little secret. They feel no one knows, that they are all alone with their electronic machine in their comfort zone. It is all an illusion of course. Those nearest and dearest find out sooner or later. If we force these people to gamble in front of and with other people from the start, that illusion will be smashed and a lot of heartache avoided. Slot machines have the highest take out and require no skill. Of course gambling should be legal. But it should be a social interaction and not isolation.
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