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Rob Ford to remain mayor until 2014

Posted by Chris Bateman / January 25, 2013

toronto rob fordIt's official, Rob Ford will remain mayor of Toronto until 2014 after a panel of Divisional Court judges decided to overturn an order to remove him from office. The decision means talk of by-elections and appointments from within council can be put to bed for the rest of this term.

In November, Ford was found to have breached the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act when he took part in a debate on item at city council in which he had a pecuniary interest, namely speaking and voting to overturn an order that he pay back $3,150 in improperly solicited donations to his football foundation. A superior court judge had no choice under the law but to declare the mayor's council seat vacant.

Ford's successful appeal of that decision means he will stay mayor until the next round of municipal elections in 2014, however that's unlikely to silence the dissenting voices who were hoping to have the mayor removed from office as a result of the transgression.

Several councillors, including deputy mayor Doug Holyday, had indicated they would seek election or appointment had Ford been given his marching orders as a result of the appeal hearing at Osgoode Hall on Jan. 7. Naturally, the result will have a major effect on the political landscape in Toronto for the foreseeable future.

The verdict declares Justice Hackland's decision "a nullity" but does acknowledge that the $3,150 figure was "not an insignificant amount, even for a person of Mr. Ford's means." The panel agreed with Alan Lenczner, Ford's lawyer, who argued that council overstepped its jurisdiction when it asked the mayor to return the money in the first place.

Various councillors have called for "business as usual" at city hall following the result. Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti, who recently left his position on the mayor's executive committee, said Ford needs "to start acting like a mayor," going forward, adding "the sideshows have to finish. I said to him 'you have to start dressing like a mayor' as well."

Mammoliti also re-iterated his belief that he is at the centre of a clandestine political conspiracy, telling a scrum of reporters "it's been confirmed" his phone has been tapped. Yesterday the York West councillor announced he's hired a private investigator to look into an alleged attempt by former and current city staff to "go after him."

UPDATE: 11:33

Clayton Ruby, the lawyer for Paul Magder, the Toronto resident who brought the case against Ford, says he'll seek leave to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, the highest court in the country. That move could leave the door open for this case to continue. Here's the full text of his statement:

The Court has let Rob Ford off on a technicality. We find that disappointing, particularly since the Court found that Mr. Paul Magder was right on the facts.

We believe that there are serious errors of law in the judgment and we will ask the Supreme Court of Canada for leave to appeal to that Court. It must be acknowledged that such appeals are not easy but this remains an important issue for all citizens.

Especially troubling is the finding that if a politician raises money from lobbyists and directs that money to his or her own personal interest, such abuse is beyond the reach of government oversight. This raises the possibility of American-style Political Action Committee (PAC) fundraising, which should be of great concern to all Canadians. (See Decision, paras. 49 and 70.)

No further comments will be made by Mr. Ruby or Mr. Magder.

UPDATE: 12:00

Reading a statement, a subdued Rob Ford called the court case a "very, very humbling experience," thanking his legal team, family, and the residents of Toronto who supported him. "It has been a very, very challenging time for all of us," he said.

"The job is not finished yet, and I plan to spend the next six years getting the job done," he continued. "Moving forward, we'll continue to do the work we were elected to do. We're doing a great job turning the city around."

"Together we will build a Toronto that is, hands down, the best city in the world to live, work, and invest in."

Outside, Doug Ford said there were "handshakes all round" when his brother heard he was keeping his job. When asked about a possible Superior Court of Canada appeal, Doug said the next steps, if there are any, are "strictly up to Clayton Ruby."

Ford will leave city hall at some point later today to meet the kids at Don Bosco Catholic Secondary who Doug Ford says are "all cheering" the result.

UPDATE: 12:43

One lingering question that remains is who pays the court costs. It's possible that, as the loser in the case, Paul Magder could be saddled with Rob Ford's legal costs. In the conclusion of their ruling, judges Then, Leitch, and Swinton said they were willing to make a final decision on who foots the bill if the two parties were unable to agree within 30 days.

Earlier today, George Christopoulos, Rob Ford's press secretary, tweeted this picture with the caption "all smiles..."rob ford smiles

Here is the full text of the decision:

Paul Magder v Rob Ford by chris9863

Chris Bateman is a staff writer at blogTO. Follow him on Twitter at @chrisbateman.

Photo: Chris Bateman/blogTO

Discussion

101 Comments

Notahipster / January 25, 2013 at 10:34 am
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hahahahahaha let the lefties cry for days!
Juice Bar Experience replying to a comment from Notahipster / January 25, 2013 at 10:36 am
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Notahipster but a douchebag.
munzz / January 25, 2013 at 10:36 am
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I guess I just lost the little faith I had in the justice system.
Brent / January 25, 2013 at 10:37 am
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Some stability on the Political Job Front in T.O.
Chris / January 25, 2013 at 10:37 am
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http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
jamie / January 25, 2013 at 10:38 am
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On the bright side, we get a constant stream of hilarious political buffoonery for the next two years.

And on the other...Rob Ford.
Bob But Not Doug / January 25, 2013 at 10:39 am
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Ten bucks says he fucks up again before the end of his term.
Joe Public / January 25, 2013 at 10:41 am
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Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler & Paul Magder please feel free to return to the obscurity from whence you came your fifteen minutes are sooo over...
Jamie replying to a comment from Bob But Not Doug / January 25, 2013 at 10:41 am
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It's not a question of whether or not he'll fuck up, but how many times.
Olivia Chow / January 25, 2013 at 10:42 am
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Can't stop crying...
Bob / January 25, 2013 at 10:42 am
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As sucky as it is to have Rob around until the end of the current term, booting him out would likely have fuelled his "Ford Nation" support with a stronger chance that he'd be back in 2014. This way, hopefully he'll be gone for good in 2014.
Notahipster / January 25, 2013 at 10:43 am
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don't cry guys I feel your pain, okay not really.
Alex / January 25, 2013 at 10:45 am
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Wow, it's been 10 minutes since the decision and Mammo hasn't rejoined the executive committee and declared his undying loyalty to the Ford regime yet?

Great, now we've got exactly the kind of mayor all those casino execs love: dumb and corrupt. Hope the other councilors are strong enough to resist the lobbying and get a good deal for Toronto, rather than letting MGM or whoever walk all over us and do whatever they want.
Good / January 25, 2013 at 10:45 am
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He can't get shit passed by council these days, anyway. The city will have to tread water as best it can until the next election and then replace him the old-fashioned way.
johnsonstarfish / January 25, 2013 at 10:46 am
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We can't blame the justice system, seriously. We can blame ourselves though for voting in such a buffoon in the first place. I hope the people that voted him in but have now begun to regret it are happy with themselves.
mezimeen / January 25, 2013 at 10:47 am
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This is all a bad dream! A BAD DREAM! AHH!!
fordfor2014 / January 25, 2013 at 10:47 am
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Ford will easily win 2014 the city is behind you!
MrCelery / January 25, 2013 at 10:48 am
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I can hear all the cartoonists breathing a sigh of relief.
tnt / January 25, 2013 at 10:49 am
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Casinos, Hero burgers, and big gulps for everyone!!!
Banjo Bob Ford / January 25, 2013 at 10:51 am
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Yes!
Rob / January 25, 2013 at 10:53 am
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This is great news and justice did prevail. Bring on the casino Mayor Ford!
paul / January 25, 2013 at 10:53 am
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Council will now be just one big temper tantrum until the next election.

Jacob replying to a comment from Bob But Not Doug / January 25, 2013 at 10:53 am
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I bet he fucks up before the end of the week.

Now that him and Ford Nation think he's invincible, he's going to get even more uncooperative.
MrPotato / January 25, 2013 at 10:54 am
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Nobody can destroy RoFo....take that all you liberal spend and tax potatoes!
Foo / January 25, 2013 at 10:55 am
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Thank christ. I was worried where I was going to get my civic entertainment from going forward.
Paul / January 25, 2013 at 10:55 am
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If he can appeal a decision, shouldn`t we be able to appeal the appeal...
Good / January 25, 2013 at 10:57 am
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Yeah, watch him say something actionable on his radio show in half an hour while he's still high on victory fumes.
Tony / January 25, 2013 at 10:58 am
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Screw the justice system, its flawed anyways. I hope everyone realizes now that he will win in 2014 and that a casino will be approved in Downtown Toronto. If you dont like it then move to BC or anywhere else your heart desires. I can hear the lefties crying in Kensington Market with their boy Layton and Vaughan. Hahahaha These judges actually just saved the city!!
iSkyscraper / January 25, 2013 at 10:58 am
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Well, it may be for the best. The prospect of a byelection would have screwed up the city but good, better candidates have not had time to get ready yet, and Rob's long list of idiotic accomplishments will only grow (with nearly being booted from office getting star billing).

He's still gone as of 2014, no question. The only problem is what kind of further damage he can cause between now and then on:

transit - hopefully not much more. That cow has left the barn.

Gardiner - oh god. An enlightened mayor would tear it down. Ford may be able to keep it, causing literally billions of dollars of damage to the city for decades

casino - probably not a factor in this discussion. Toronto will likely get a downtown casino, not as big of a deal as everyone is making out. (Montreal is still standing, after all)

bike lanes - not really many left to tear out. And Toronto is so far behind the curve now it barely matters anymore. Bixi will hobble on, cyclists will die, but this is probably our future with or without Ford, at least until an intelligent mayor comes along.


So enjoy the soap opera for another two years, and pray that Council can stop Ford on the Gardiner.
audit / January 25, 2013 at 11:00 am
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It's not over yet. Fordo still has an audit decision that will come next week which can also boot him out of office. He just can't do anything right!
j-rock / January 25, 2013 at 11:00 am
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No truly "good" outcome was possible anyway. Either he was going to win, in which case he's still mayor, or he would lose, which would do nothing but turn him into a martyr for his easily duped suburban base, who would then work tirelessly to re-install him in 2014, while complaining every day about a "downtown socialist conspiracy".

I'm so tired of the whole circus at city hall. Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can approve of the job he's done. Even conservatives must be embarrassed by his behviour. Holyday, who is no favourite of mine would be a far better mayor than Ford. Same for Stintz, Del Grande and John Tory. Rob Ford isn't a terrible mayor because he's a conservative, it's because he's Rob Ford.
Jim replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / January 25, 2013 at 11:01 am
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dream on he will win in a landslide in 2014.
MrPotato replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / January 25, 2013 at 11:02 am
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iSkyscraper - You're a potato! Take your bike and ride off to BC with the rest of the hippies!
Todd Toronto / January 25, 2013 at 11:02 am
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Had it not been for Dalton McGuinty and the new City of Toronto Act, there would have been a civic election this year.
the lemur / January 25, 2013 at 11:04 am
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He may still be turfed if the campaign finance audit finds he violated election laws. Even if he gets to stay on, he will find a way to screw something up during the rest of his term.
Asim / January 25, 2013 at 11:07 am
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There should be a minimum education requirement to hold certain positions in public office. Like, say, a college degree. That way we can avoid putting people in public office who aren't qualified and we won't have to waste time and money on explaining what "conflict of interest" means.
Jacob replying to a comment from Tony / January 25, 2013 at 11:08 am
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Sure, whatever. At least half of the pro-Ford commenters on the net seem to come from places like Keswick and Mississauga, so them telling us to "pack up and move" is pure idiocy.
pix / January 25, 2013 at 11:12 am
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Welp, guess it's back to Toronto being the butt of everyone's jokes :/
Bob C replying to a comment from Tony / January 25, 2013 at 11:12 am
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Couldn't agree more. We need a casino in this town. Attract more people. And no more BS spending in City Hall...great day
mc / January 25, 2013 at 11:13 am
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Shitty mayor vs. another election costing more tax payer's dollars.

We loose both ways. Hey government, how about a solution that actually benefits the city you are ruling and its peoples?
CanoeDave replying to a comment from Good / January 25, 2013 at 11:23 am
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What nonsense. Council just passed the Budget in record time and with little controversy in a process that is generally the most acrimonious and difficult part of the Council year. Ford is a bungler for sure but Committees and Council are is doing a good that is note getting enough credit because of all the side shows. Even Marcus Gee in the G&M, certainly no Ford lover, makes the point that the budget was a considerable accomplishment.
Karen / January 25, 2013 at 11:24 am
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Either support our Mayor who was ELECTED or run for office yourself in 2014... then we'll see how good a job you can do! But please please quit the constant Ford bashing. These kind of jabs are getting old and do our city no good.
CanoeDave replying to a comment from Good / January 25, 2013 at 11:26 am
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Have to wonder why the left has such a disrespect for the Courts when they decide against their political wishes. The left virtually universally opposes "mandatory sentencing" and insists that the Courts should match the punishment with the crime and but when Ford gets "justice" the sky is falling. The Appeal Court said both that the Conflict of Interest law was incorrectly applied in demanding repayment and that the amount of money involved was trivial. Just get over it and stop insulting the Justices.
Amalgamated / January 25, 2013 at 11:31 am
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It doesn't matter. It really doesn't. The mess that amalgamation has created - the us vs. them mentality - in Toronto will ensure that this city remains messed up no matter who sits in the mayor's chair.
MS / January 25, 2013 at 11:45 am
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The headline about 2014 seems rather optimistic, since Ford is also facing campaign finance violations (his family corporation loaned his election campaign hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is illegal) that could (should) remove him from office.

Clayton Ruby's comment is exactly right - the court here held that lobbyists giving money to a fund that is 100% controlled by Robert Ford but not actually in Ford's name was not giving money to him. This is...... not consistent with the general practice of the court system, to say the least. And it does open up an angle to bribe councillors and other politicians, legally.

v79 / January 25, 2013 at 11:56 am
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Is there any way to pull up old Blog TO comments so that I can gloat about having pointed out the findings of this ruling back when this whole mess started? Glad to know that my grade 11 law class made me a more competent legal observer than Clayton Ruby and Charles Hackland.
Soren replying to a comment from Karen / January 25, 2013 at 12:03 pm
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Ford criticism will stop when he stops saying and doing stupid things. #notgonnahappen
Shane / January 25, 2013 at 12:13 pm
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First the shark fin ban, now this when will council learn not to exceed their powers.
Jacob replying to a comment from CanoeDave / January 25, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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"Have to wonder why the left has such a disrespect for the Courts when they decide against their political wishes."

As opposed to the right foaming at the mouth and calling for heads at the initial ruling to boot him from office?
Justin / January 25, 2013 at 12:23 pm
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Clayton Ruby:

"The Court has let Rob Ford off on a technicality. We find that disappointing."

Really? Wasn't it a "technicality" infraction that you charged Ford on in the first place? Talk about blatant hypocrisy!

"We believe that there are serious errors of law in the judgment and we will ask the Supreme Court of Canada for leave to appeal to that Court."

The only "error in judgement" here was Ruby thinking he could kick the mayor out of office over a technicality.

"Especially troubling is the finding that if a politician raises money from lobbyists and directs that money to his or her own personal interest, such abuse is beyond the reach of government oversight."

The money was for charity and there's nothing against the law about raising money for charity. Unfortunately Rob used the wrong piece of paper. Shoot him.

"This raises the possibility of American-style Political Action Committee (PAC) fundraising, which should be of great concern to all Canadians."

What a ridiculous hyperbole. Ford was raising money for a children's charity, I'm not sure what Ruby means by this.

Shove this decision up your a** Ruby.
GRAARG replying to a comment from Shane / January 25, 2013 at 12:26 pm
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You forgot to mention the plastic bag ban too. And the circus continues.
v79 / January 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm
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So, what happens with the Integrity Commissioner, who not only failed to advise council of over-stepping their boundaries, but in fact, specifically suggested they do so? I would assume an immediate resignation is in order.
GRAARG replying to a comment from Shane / January 25, 2013 at 12:30 pm
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I do believe "technicality" is the new language of losers. When Ford lost the lower court ruling it was "he was only nailed by a technicality" according to the Fordists. Now, he was "only saved by a technicality" according to Ruby.

Technicality is misfiling the paperwork or a law clerk losing a file, a clerical error or similar. A judge (or panel of) making a reasoned ruling that you don't like is called the LAW.
VoteQuimby / January 25, 2013 at 12:32 pm
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And the salad spinner of fuck keeps right on spinning....
Joe Public replying to a comment from v79 / January 25, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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v79 + 1 I too look forward to Ms. Leiper's resignation. Btw I found your previous comments and can confirm that you nailed the grounds for the appeal court decision well done...
matts / January 25, 2013 at 01:00 pm
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Thank heavens for this verdict. Rob is now free to return to his job and true passion: coaching football
random guy / January 25, 2013 at 01:06 pm
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Take that Paul Magder. Next time focus your time and money on something that will make a difference ya turd.
Xavier / January 25, 2013 at 01:08 pm
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I hope that the court costs bankrupt Paul Madger. What a waste of time...
All hail mayor McCheese replying to a comment from Karen / January 25, 2013 at 01:26 pm
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Pointing out this moron's constant and increasingly embarrassing mistakes isn't "bashing". Neither is demanding accountability from elected officials. He's turned himself, council, and Toronto into a running joke. What is there about any of that that you "support" exactly?

And before you start with the "whiny socialist elitist" crap, I would have GLADLY voted for John Tory in 2010. The difference between the two men being that while they're both Conservatives, only one of them (Ford) is an idiot.
Chris on Bay Street / January 25, 2013 at 01:34 pm
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The first thing Mike Layton tweeted after the announcement was "time to get back to work". BACK to work? What the heck has this kid been doing during this months-long saga??
Toby / January 25, 2013 at 01:39 pm
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Okay...so now how long until Mammoliti becomes Ford's lapdog again?
mar replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / January 25, 2013 at 01:49 pm
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Ford will guaranteed be running on saving the gardiner in the next election. A lot of people are seeing the big issue will be the casinos but I'm pretty sure the gardiner staying or going will be the divisive/decisive issue.
the lemur replying to a comment from Chris on Bay Street / January 25, 2013 at 02:13 pm
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Maybe he was talking about FORD getting back to work?

Or perhaps council being able to achieve things for a while without Ford having to take time to appear in court on one matter or another?
Skye / January 25, 2013 at 02:25 pm
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Just as well. Had he been booted out, the knuckle-draggers of Ford Nation would have rallied to his side (IIRC, he'd still be allowed to run in a byelection?). Give him another chance to hoist himself on his own petard. It's only a matter of time.
j-rock replying to a comment from Chris on Bay Street / January 25, 2013 at 02:29 pm
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Council has largely been in a holding pattern, waiting for the court's decision, with various members jockeying for position instead of focusing on the city's business. I'm pretty sure that's what Layton was referring to. But I suspect that you already knew that.
RoFoPAC / January 25, 2013 at 02:35 pm
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Just got around to reading Ruby's statement re: the appeal judgement. Apparently this ruling opens the door for Political Action Committees in Ontario! Rob Ford really is the gift that keeps on giving... Go Ford!
Alex replying to a comment from Karen / January 25, 2013 at 02:37 pm
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Just the down town whiners crying like babies, meanwhile we in etobicoke are tickled pink about it.
Og The Dim / January 25, 2013 at 02:41 pm
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Ah, the sound of the left and the right wailing away at each other while the rest of us get on with living.
Lisa replying to a comment from All hail mayor McCheese / January 25, 2013 at 02:55 pm
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Does calling another human being an "idiot" make you feel better about yourself?
iSkyscraper replying to a comment from Jim / January 25, 2013 at 02:59 pm
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Jim, I would happily wager you real money on 2014 in a rational universe. In this one I worry demographics may be against me. The Gardiner is a 100% win for the old boroughs because they drive on it and don't have to look at it or live with it. It's major problem for downtown for all the reasons that other cities have removed their elevated expressways. If Ford does run on a Gardiner platform as mar points out it will be very, very hard to educate the residents of Etobicoke et. al on tenets of modern urban planning vs Ford saying shit like "save it? Hell, let's build two more of 'em!". You think subways were divisive? Just wait till Douglas Ford Memorial Wacker Drive gets proposed.

All hail mayor McCheese replying to a comment from Lisa / January 25, 2013 at 03:08 pm
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Does posting stupid comments on internet discussion boards make you feel better about yourself? If so, you must be feeling GREAT right about now.
CaligulaJones replying to a comment from munzz / January 25, 2013 at 04:26 pm
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Is is just because you hate Rob Ford, or did this alleged lack of faith start earlier? Some of us, you could call us conservatives, had our faith start lacking back when human scum were continually given second, third, fourth, fifth and dozenth chances to hurt others.

If you want a case that makes Ford's look like, well, a bunch of whiny lefties crying, google "Owusu-Ansah" and "Bridget Takyi".
CaligulaJones replying to a comment from Asim / January 25, 2013 at 04:31 pm
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Or better, IQ tests for voters! Wonder if Obama would win if we did?
CaligulaJones replying to a comment from RoFoPAC / January 25, 2013 at 04:34 pm
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You mean, PACs OTHER than unions, "family coalitions", etc?
GRABY / January 25, 2013 at 04:36 pm
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As much as I find Slob Ford to be an embarrassment, I can honestly say that I give zero f#cks about this decision.

Is a 7 - 9 million dollar by-election worth it for a cash strapped city? No.

Let Toronto's Clown Prince finish off his term.

Then let's re-elect someone with a brain next year.

Paul / January 25, 2013 at 04:56 pm
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niceee! he's got my vote again in 2014!
GoFordGo / January 25, 2013 at 05:00 pm
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GoFordGo
Nord Fation replying to a comment from CaligulaJones / January 25, 2013 at 05:00 pm
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Oh I get it, because women, blacks hispanics and asians - anyone who isn't a white, heterosexual male has a lower I.Q. Unfortunately, the reality is quite different. Perhaps there is a correlation, and perhaps not, but all 10 of the most educated states in the U.S. went for Obama. And 9 of the 10 least educated went for Romney. So to answer your question, I.Q tests would likely have INCREASED Obama's (already significant) margin of victory, but why let facts get in the way of a good old thinly veiled racist jab.

http://gizmodo.com/5959101/the-effect-of-education-in-the-presidential-election

And the same pattern holds true in Toronto. The wards which comprise "old Toronto", ie. those that didn't vote for Ford (aka. "the downtown socialist elites),are generally more affluent, with higher levels of educational attainment than "Ford Nation". In fact, the titular head of "Ford Nation" doesn't even have a degree. So I guess the fish really does rot from the head.

http://www.toronto.ca/committees/community_councils.htm
leftybaiter / January 25, 2013 at 05:00 pm
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Look at the landslide of anti-left commentary made in the first few hours of this decision. You have to have a pretty empty life when anonymous hate-posts are your only source of entertainment. Worse, they aren't even creative in their jabs, or funny, or insightful in any way...so they've wasted their time and our time reading them. :(
youneedahug replying to a comment from leftybaiter / January 25, 2013 at 05:10 pm
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maybe you should go get a hug from your mommy that might make you feel better.
Lee Zamparo replying to a comment from Jim / January 25, 2013 at 05:17 pm
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Do you think this is the case because of his abysmal poll numbers, or because he's out of ideas with two more years to go until his mandate? A monkey could do a better job, and be better dressed to boot.
CaligulaJones replying to a comment from Nord Fation / January 25, 2013 at 05:19 pm
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Wow, did you bit hard on a trick question. Everyone knows that IQ tests are racist anyway.

POINT IS in democracy, everyone gets a vote, dumb or smart, rich or poor, successful but uneducated business man like Steve Jobs or unsuccessful but hyper educated dorks like Arun Smith (7th year “human rights and sexuality” major").

Rawb Fjord / January 25, 2013 at 05:34 pm
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I have been saved by the judiciary, that very institution that i had only a short while ago pissed upon, outraged at its usurping of democracy, outraged at its efforts to enforce the rule of law as required for democracy's very own existence. Now that the system has released me of charge, however, I praise that very same structure as vital, and a shining example of the systems success. I have learnt much though, no longer will i in vulgarity raise my finger to mothers and children as i drive around town, no longer shall i curse the very citizens...errr...sorry....i meant to say taxpayers ...that i portend to serve....and the Fuckin list goes one...jesus....h........christ.
Chris West replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / January 25, 2013 at 05:51 pm
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As somebody who lives downtown, not a Ford supporter, pedestrian, cyclist, ttcist, driver, and thinks the Gardiner is ugly, I think it will have to stay. We have not seen a business plan for all the Gardiner options, but I am willing to bet that they are all astronomically expensive and patchwork is the cheapest.

As for utility, I cannot imagine how the streets of Toronto would be if the Gardiner was torn down, or was in the process of being torn down. As it is, I refuse to ride my bike or car south of King, between Bathurst and Parliament during the week as its usually a parking lot heading for the highway. The people in those cars will never use transit and do not see it as an option (look at our mayor).

All of our politicians, left and right, are a joke when it comes to traffic and many other major issues in this city. No decision is the best decision for their political future.
leftybaiter replying to a comment from youneedahug / January 25, 2013 at 05:59 pm
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yay, I win! (hugs from mom are the BEST!!)
Rawb Fjord replying to a comment from Nord Fation / January 25, 2013 at 06:17 pm
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and the strange thing about that, is that the kind of policies that those who live in Toronto proper seek are actually those very policies that would benefit the people who now vote for me, but they don't realise this. While i'm in power, i'll privatize everything, so my friends companies can make more money, the rich will get richer (those who didnt vote for me) and the average joe who voted me in will work for my friends companies for minimum wage now, so it's great. I find it amazing that i can poff myself off as the common guy, even though i am a mult- millionaire, so i can get the suburban vote ,but in fact, the polices that i will put into play are those that benefit rich people, like me, and, those people who voted against me in toronto proper, who tend to be more well off and more highly educated than Ford Nation, my very own nation. Ford Nation doesn't understand this, so they vote for me, and i institute polices that benefit the owners of capital (rich people) rather than the average guy (Ford Nation). But, there it is, they voted for me, so, i'll give em what they want, while the rich-errr-those in toronto proper, regardless of stripe, will only get richer off of my polices.....well, you know what they say, the more things change, the more they stay the same...that's it, i'm calling 911.
Rawb Fjord replying to a comment from Rawb Fjord / January 25, 2013 at 06:54 pm
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Oh yeah, and one last thing before I go. D'you know what guys? Know what? Shhhhhhhh...keep it on the down low, but mind the gravy.....this isn't about leftwing or rightwing, or pinkos guys, or whatever, that's all just a ruse, it is all about MONEY, nothing else, but keep that quiet. Ok, gotta go, i hear the sirens.
Jay / January 25, 2013 at 09:20 pm
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BREAKING NEWS: Torontonians are cautioned to stay away from rivers and creeks. It's expected the incessant whining and crying by lefties and hipsters will cause extreme flooding and and fast moving water. We recommend lefties and hipsters all stay at your local coffee shop and lean on your local barista's shoulder for safety and comfort. They can use their black and white hounds tooth summer scarf to wipe your tears. When you're done crying I'm sure your barista will lend you they're extra pair of Chuck Taylors to get home in the snow.
Hilarious / January 25, 2013 at 09:33 pm
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This comment thread has to be, by far, the most entertaining in a long time.

Thank you nutjobs for making my evening much more enjoyable.
Simon Tarses replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / January 25, 2013 at 09:51 pm
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"cyclists will die"

Hmmm, that'd actually be a good side effect.
Guy Whose Friend Died in a Bike Accident in 2010 replying to a comment from Simon Tarses / January 25, 2013 at 11:22 pm
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I'm glad you think that is funny.
Simon Tarses / January 25, 2013 at 11:43 pm
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Good to know. Thank you.
Clayton Bigsby / January 26, 2013 at 07:25 am
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Anyone thoght of suing Clay Ruby here? Complete waste of taxpayers money
Notahipster replying to a comment from Clayton Bigsby / January 26, 2013 at 09:09 am
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then we should sue city council too, that is all they do is waste taxpayers money.
MER1978 / January 26, 2013 at 09:54 am
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The city should pay 407ETR to build and operate the toll while still maintaining ownership... that way one transponder + bill for all of the toll highways in the GTA.

The city should be able to borrow a huge chunk of money up front based on the fact that the tolls will be ongoing revenue from the asset... bring the Gardiner up to standard... once we're there money earned by the city should go into keeping it maintained + the rest going directly into transit.
Notahipster replying to a comment from Notahipster / January 26, 2013 at 04:49 pm
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You guys have to understand where we're coming from, no one pays attention to Etobicoke now that we're amalgamated, and it isn't fair. Rob just stands up for the suburbs, which suits us fine because the downtown core will be okay without his help.
MrPotato / January 26, 2013 at 04:55 pm
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If he runs again, I'm definatly voting for Ford. If he doesn't run again, I hope he will because he should because he's good.
MrsPotato replying to a comment from MrPotato / January 26, 2013 at 05:03 pm
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I want a divorce.
FRANK / January 27, 2013 at 04:34 am
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I am glad they kept him in.only for one reason and thats them sneaky people trying to get him fired.you dont mess around when it comes to someones job,and thats exactly what they did.who cares that he funded football team,at least it went to good use.If he thinks before he talks and if he thinks before he does things, he could be a very good mayor. because he does rush things without thinking.And He does do his job.Personally I didnt like alot of things he has done and if he doesnt learn from all this,then he doesnt belong as Mayor.Do the job right and dont let the power get to his head.then he will do good.He does have what it takes to havwe that job.and for you people that dont agree with me,please dont comment,because I am not interested in the comments.
Gabe / January 27, 2013 at 11:24 pm
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Atta boy Rob! They had no right or defence to really take this to court, a waste of tax payers money. Welcome Back Rob - Let's Get to Work!
Dan / January 28, 2013 at 11:46 pm
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Tap the BOTTLE AND TWIST THE CAP!!! Tap the BOTTLE AND TWIST THE CAP!!! We won, We in!!! Let's do this!! Wha Da Da Dang, Wha Da Da dang dang... Atta Boy Robbie!!!

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