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Judge rules Rob Ford can run in a byelection

Posted by Chris Bateman / November 30, 2012

toronto rob fordThe Superior Court judge that ousted Rob Ford from office has ruled the mayor is able stand in a byelection before 2014 if his appeal is rejected in the new year. Justice Charles Hackland ordered the mayor removed from office at the end of a court case that Ford found spoke and voted on an item at council in which he had a financial interest.

This morning, Hackland decided to delete a portion of the ruling that suggested Ford would be blocked from running for office or being appointed mayor by council before the end of the current council term in two years.

The advice goes against what city solicitor Anna Kinastowski and her legal team told council on Tuesday based on the original wording of the document. Ford and his inner circle believed the ruling left the door open for a new election campaign should a panel of three judges decide to reject an appeal in January.

Alan Lenczner, Ford's lawyer, will request a stay next week that would keep the mayor in office until his formal appeal can be heard. In the unlikely chance he's unsuccessful, Ford will have just over a week left in office before being removed, perhaps temporarily.

It was rumoured earlier this week that Doug Ford might take a crack at the top job if his brother was prevented from doing so. It's not clear yet whether any of the other rumored contenders, councillors Karen Stintz and Adam Vaughan among them, will decide to step back.

UPDATE: 12:30

Looks like a group of Ford supporters are starting to organize a campaign. A video entitled "Respect Democracy" that began circulating online last night urges viewers to sign a petition to get the mayor reinstated and calls into question the fairness of the judge's decision, describing the origins of the court case as "politically motivated."

It's not clear who's behind the site at this stage, the company that registered the domain tells me the owner has opted to hide their details, but it doesn't seem to carry any official endorsements from the mayor or his team.

Chris Bateman is a staff writer at blogTO. Follow him on Twitter at @chrisbateman.

Photo: "Rob Ford" by Oliver Plante in the blogTO Flickr pool.

Discussion

90 Comments

Me / November 30, 2012 at 10:05 am
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Oh man, the comments here should be real good between the Righties and Lefties. Getting me a bottle of wine so's I can settle in and watch. This is gonna' be FUN!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
Rafa / November 30, 2012 at 10:06 am
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I guess this will serve as a test of whether Rob Ford is as hated as the writers at the Star, Now Magazine and BlogTO would have us believe.
Rich / November 30, 2012 at 10:07 am
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I'm sorta happy he's allowed to run again. Now we'll see the true will of the City when he is crushed in re-election defeat. We'll also in turn get to see him lose, and sulk, and as a result I will savor schadenfreude.
Bob But Not Doug / November 30, 2012 at 10:07 am
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Good. That way we can directly vote him out.
Liz / November 30, 2012 at 10:09 am
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So, Ford isn't punished at all. Who's getting the slap on the wrist here, us?
HFS / November 30, 2012 at 10:14 am
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I love you Rob Ford!!!!
Al / November 30, 2012 at 10:17 am
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Why can't Council just re-appoint him to his seat then? The statute allows Council to make an appointment.
melloyello / November 30, 2012 at 10:18 am
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I don't see the point in removing him as Mayor and then allowing him to run in the byelection. He wasn't punished at all and pretty much just went around a revolving door. It's a complete waste of time and money to even have a byelection. What is the role of a Deputy Mayor in all of this?!

Ford running in the byelection can go both ways. His undying fans will vote for him and he may have just won some sympathy votes from people who thought the 'punishment' was too harsh. Then again, he may have lost a lot of his supporters who regret having voted him into office and doesn't like what they've seen in the last 2 years.

AA replying to a comment from Rafa / November 30, 2012 at 10:23 am
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Angus Reid poll yesterday had 69% people surveyed in Toronto agreeing with the ouster.
Tommy replying to a comment from melloyello / November 30, 2012 at 10:26 am
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"he may have lost a lot of his supporters who regret having voted him into office and doesn't like what they've seen in the last 2 years."

This is pretty much the theme I get from people who voted for Ford last time with the best of intentions. These people wanted to see spending and taxes lowered, but not at the cost of the shitshow we've had to watch.
Ford4ever / November 30, 2012 at 10:27 am
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Toronto's Kennedys will be vindicated in the byelection.

As long as there is no effective opposition speaking to the moderate vote, they are unstoppable.








Rafa / November 30, 2012 at 10:31 am
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Polls also showed the Romney/Obama decision as 50/50...only the vote matters! Either way, should be interesting.
McRib / November 30, 2012 at 10:35 am
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while i can't wait to see him gone, it certainly sits better with me that Rob is voted out of office, rather than removed for what some circles see as an "affront to democracy" for a guy "only trying to help some kids".

vote his ass out, whether its now or in 2014. lets end this shower of shit.
Steven / November 30, 2012 at 10:36 am
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The judge is making a mockery out of OUR democracy.

Why would he change his mind after a verdict without anybody going back to court? The justice system is a kangaroo court, nothing more.

Ben / November 30, 2012 at 10:40 am
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I would have voted him back in if he won the Metro Bowl. But now all that time he spent coaching instead of attending council meetings seems like a waste. Maybe the coach of the Huron Heights Warriors will run for mayor. At least he's a winner.
mark / November 30, 2012 at 10:44 am
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Then Ford should be the only one running in the by-election. End this farce and let's get on with the running of the government. There's an election in 2 years. Don't like the job Ford has done? Vote him out then.
NoFordFan / November 30, 2012 at 10:48 am
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I do not like him, I didn't vote for him, and I would be happy to see him out of office. However, I would support reappointing him as mayor, it saves the time and money of a new election, prevents him from becoming a martyr, and it will give him more time to screw up and ensure he nor any other Ford gets re-elected in 2014 to continue screwing up our city.

Say no to Ford in 2014
oops. / November 30, 2012 at 10:54 am
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Well, if Obama can get re-elected down South, nothing is surprising and anything is possible!
Rmund / November 30, 2012 at 10:58 am
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Rob Ford's re-election campaign slogan:

"Booted from the Mayor's position, stop the gravy on any act of contrition!"



Nixon / November 30, 2012 at 10:59 am
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WTF was the point in removing him from office if can just run again? How much is this process going to cost us? Great job Toronto! Could have put that money towards subways.
Tweedle-dee / November 30, 2012 at 11:03 am
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I can see it now: $7M wasted in byelection because the 'burbs put Tweedle-dum back in...
Sam replying to a comment from Nixon / November 30, 2012 at 11:04 am
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Council should save the city $7 million and just reappoint Ford as mayor and allow him to finish off his term. This is becoming a farce.
Leah replying to a comment from Tweedle-dee / November 30, 2012 at 11:10 am
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Actually you are wrong. Lefties would be wasting $7 M only for the city to put Ford back in. If he gets re-elected in a byelection, it would only affirm his position that he should not have been removed to begin with. This whole legal process was initiated by a left wing lobbyist and probably a few lefty councillors with a political axe to grind.
iSkyscraper / November 30, 2012 at 11:13 am
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Mixed feelings on this. I was looking forward to Holyday as interim mayor, so that Ford fans could have seen what an adult conservative mayor looked like instead of a child.

On the other hand, the weekly blunders that made Ford and Toronto the laughingstock of North America would be a lot harder to recall in 2014 whereas they are fresh in the mind now.

Chow would have been well prepped to run in 2014 - I don't see her running in an immediate byelection with no prep work.

So who will actually run in this thing? Ford is certain to lose, but it's unclear to me who will win.
the lemur replying to a comment from Steven / November 30, 2012 at 11:14 am
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Because he can, and besides, it's in Ford's favour - aren't y ou happy about that part?

Remember, this is a judge appointed by Harper.
MrsPotato / November 30, 2012 at 11:16 am
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So ... i guess he's consequence free, once again.

Awesome legal system we've got here in Toronto.
Tommy replying to a comment from Leah / November 30, 2012 at 11:24 am
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lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty lefty

It's oh so simple to you isn't it?
Christopher King / November 30, 2012 at 11:38 am
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This is such fucking bullshit!
Either you were wrong and you get punished,or you weren't.
Why is the City being punished with the possibility of having to pay for a by-election so that a man just removed from office can run again right away?
Leah replying to a comment from Tommy / November 30, 2012 at 11:40 am
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When the Toronto Star ran a profile on Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler, and is described in short as a 'left-leaning activist', the day after the court decision, essentially celebrating him as a hero...how is that not considered a politically driven power play?
Matt replying to a comment from Leah / November 30, 2012 at 11:41 am
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If you still believe that the solutions to all our problems can be encompassed by one-word tribalistic identities like "lefty" or "righty" and that the quality of an idea can be predicted by which of those categories it belongs to, then I'm afraid I have some bad news for you.
Leah replying to a comment from Matt / November 30, 2012 at 11:43 am
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Not all. But this one certainly qualifies.
Sandman / November 30, 2012 at 11:49 am
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I`m ALL for a Rob Ford in the office ... where else can we see Canadian Jerry Springer content ....
trickydisco / November 30, 2012 at 11:51 am
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if he gets voted back in again i'll puke
Jack Reacher replying to a comment from Steven / November 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm
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But why would the judge rule on a point of law that is UNDER REVIEW
GofordGo / November 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm
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Rob Ford Will get my vote again! He is seen as a hero here in Etobicoke! Will be shaking his hand tomorrow at Etobicoke X-mas parade on lakeshore.
Stanley / November 30, 2012 at 12:46 pm
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Let's all agree to end amalgamation and you can have him for the mayor of Etobicoke and we can get a more suitable mayor for Toronto.
duder replying to a comment from GofordGo / November 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm
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I'm curious - I'm not really left or right, and I'm not trying to call you out. I'd like to know, genuinely, why Rob Ford is considered a "hero" in Etobicoke. What has the man done to be given such a lofty compliment? And what would it really take to shake your resolve?
GofordGo replying to a comment from duder / November 30, 2012 at 12:54 pm
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Because for years he has helped people in our neighbourhood, shoved sidewalks, mowed grass, and done various things for people, same as his brothers. He has done a lot to help people here and many here think very highly of him. We feel he has our best interest at heart. Though he is';t a smooth talker or a butt kisser, he is doing what is good for us fine folks in Etobicoke.
v79 / November 30, 2012 at 01:01 pm
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Council should either appoint Holyday or R. Ford to finish out the term and get this side show done and over with. Despite what some may have you believe, it hasn't really affected the City negatively in any measurable way and despite his fumbles, the Ford fiscal agenda is working well and has produced the savings and balance he said it would. Those saying the city is laughing stock of North America obviously don't pay attention to the polls which say otherwise, or the much more serious breaches of office committed not only in the States, but in Montreal, London, Leval, etc right here at home. The world doesn't care what Rob Ford or Toronto is doing, so stop bitching like they do.
duder replying to a comment from GofordGo / November 30, 2012 at 01:01 pm
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I think that's an understandable sentiment. I'm curious, though - don't you think that a mayor of a city of nearly 6 million people should think a little more broadly than mowing grass and fixing potholes? Isn't the fact that he's such a polarizing and stubborn figure a reason that there is now complete political gridlock at City Hall? Hasn't his transit platform been a complete - by any definition - failure?

I can understand people's attachment to an idea of Ford as a small-town/suburban man of the people, but don't you think that the whole city...a city that is facing bigger problems than many countries...need someone who is pragmatic and level-headed and doesn't court controversy with literally everything he does?
Karrie / November 30, 2012 at 01:02 pm
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That's great for Etobicoke. Too bad he's the mayor of the whole city now.
BitMedler / November 30, 2012 at 01:06 pm
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Well whomever it is running that website, they didn't even have enough sense/integrity to use a local registrar or host - registrar is in the US and the site is hosted in Montreal.

Ps. - if I got fired for violating a code of conduct - agreed to when I signed my contract - I would be fired and not likely able to get another job with said company. I'd hope politicians are held to a higher standard than most when it comes to law and integrity… it's kinda part of their job.
Ryan replying to a comment from GofordGo / November 30, 2012 at 01:06 pm
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You're totally right. Ford is the greatest mayor in history, of any place on Earth. I once saw him rescue 5 babies, a horse, 3 kittens, and 6 puppies from a burning building; all at once! While coaching his football team to the Metro Bowl championship.
He'd do more, but those darn lefties are holding him back. He'd be King of the Universe by now if it weren't for those lefties! It's true, I heard Don Cherry say it!
steve replying to a comment from v79 / November 30, 2012 at 01:20 pm
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His effects on the city are not measurable at this time. The loss will be felt in years to come. He has not moved the city forward, the best is it is stagnant the worst it has moved backwards. Rob Ford has been trying to squeeze the life out of the city core while he lavishes his praises on the suburbs. This will lead to failure.
Mikes for Ford replying to a comment from duder / November 30, 2012 at 01:20 pm
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Im curious, "duder", what problems is Toronto facing that are bigger than many countries? Have you been anywhere outside of our great city? You along with 80% of these commentators sound like Occupy Wall St misfits that don't realize how great you have it here. Ford's fat and outspoken, big deal. He's made mistakes like everyone else and has paid for it. If you thing you're good enough to criticize let's hear some of some solutions.
fish / November 30, 2012 at 01:23 pm
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The fact that Rob Ford was ousted was the work of The Devil, The Dark Lord. Toronto was punished by God to 4 years of Mayor Rob Ford for our sinning. We must endure those four years or the Anti-Christ will be upon us.
v79 replying to a comment from steve / November 30, 2012 at 01:27 pm
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His affects can't be felt if you ignore them. From making certain services essential, outsourcing garbage collection, balancing the budget and accumulating a surplus while cutting certain unpopular taxes, those are all progressive positives that affect us now. There's nothing he's done that has stagnated us or caused us any loss. He's accomplished more positive in two years, even with council derailing some plans, than Miller did in his entire time at the helm.
hendrix / November 30, 2012 at 01:28 pm
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At this point, I'd take Holyday or Tory over Robbie... and I'm left-wing.
Yermin / November 30, 2012 at 01:31 pm
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And the most amazing thing...
world newspaper coverage (and blog comments) of this 'thing':
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21567383-city-and-its-government-are-stuck-gridlock-model-t-ford-breaks-down
...and BBC ...and NYT.
Ian MacIntyre replying to a comment from Leah / November 30, 2012 at 01:35 pm
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It'd be cool if you had any proof of that leftist conspiracy whatsoever.
steve replying to a comment from v79 / November 30, 2012 at 01:45 pm
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I was willing to contemplate what you wrote, then I saw your last line and said to myself 'oh your one of those'. No point in having any kind of discussion when it will just lead to left and right arguments spiraling to insults hurled my way.
paul / November 30, 2012 at 01:52 pm
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When do I vote him back in office.
reality / November 30, 2012 at 01:54 pm
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people say left wing like it's a bad thing.. being socially conscience for your fellow man is not a bad thing. rob ford doesn't have the core of toronto in his best intentions. removing bike lanes is a step backwards. cancelling transit city to put in ONE subway line is a step backwards.
illegally using Toronto letter head to get money for his (his) football charity is a step backwards. his stubbornness is a sign that he is not fit to run a city. his disgusting appearance is a sign that he can't even take care of himself.
he has even said that he didn't read that rules of being mayor.
he is internationally embarrassing. the fact that he is on international news should show people that he isn't fit for mayor of this city. who's the mayor of portland? seattle? tokyo? sydney? i don't know, but i bet the citizens of those cities know who our mayor is.
the funniest part is that he is all for breaking up the super toronto, removing the 905 from the 416 (the way it should be). if that happened, he would never get voting in.

i guarantee that he will not be reelected and if the people were smart, they'd get his brother, the puppet master, out asap.

as least Mel had a personality.

vote for anyone but Ford. save yourself, and your fellow Torontonians (?)!!!!!!
reality replying to a comment from Mikes for Ford / November 30, 2012 at 01:56 pm
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but he hasn't paid for it until now.
Randy / November 30, 2012 at 02:00 pm
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"Why can't Council just re-appoint him to his seat then? The statute allows Council to make an appointment."

Yeah!, and while you're at it let Rob Ford vote for himself to be re-instated. That's what started this mess in the first place.

If Rob Ford plans to run again, he better read the rule book this time regarding conduct, learn to be accountable for his actions, and he better learn to represent ALL of the citizens of this great diverse city. He's great at accusing others of misconduct, but looks the other way when he is the one found guilty. This action wasn't a breach of the democratic process. He broke a law, and when you do so there is always a penalty. Don't call it a political move. Don't want to lose your position, follow the rules and stop acting likes it's beneath you to have read and follow them. Really! GROW UP!
RIck / November 30, 2012 at 02:05 pm
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If you dont want Rob Ford as mayor in the downtown core then everyone should vote to unamalgamate the cities. This will clear up 80% of the debate on here. The councillors in Downtown Toronto can raise taxes, mis-spend their budget and look after their own problems while North York, Etobicoke and Scarborough can do the same for their regions. Nothing will move forward with the current set up that we have. Each area has distinct issues that cant be dealt with under the current system. It will always be downtown vs everyone else. We will have the same debates in 10 years.
scottd replying to a comment from Rafa / November 30, 2012 at 02:16 pm
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Those polls were of popular vote, not electoral college.So they were correct.
scottd replying to a comment from Rafa / November 30, 2012 at 02:21 pm
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Lets not get too excited. First he needs to win his appeal and that will be hard because it is legally solid. Second this time around he will have real competition on the right and less competition on left. Thats not good for him. Also we now have the benefit of seeing him in action (or inaction) as Mayor and polls have been showing since day one that his support has been falling.If he is able to run again, its not going to be like the last time and judging by his just released "respect for democracy" video that seems to ignore the law he may find that his empty slogans dont work this time.
Jack replying to a comment from Rich / November 30, 2012 at 02:22 pm
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Rich, as opposed to the last time? It was an election. It WAS the will of the people that he be elected. It's not like he was appointed or acclaimed. Just because it wasn't the result you wanted, doesn't mean it wasn't a legitimate result.
steve / November 30, 2012 at 02:25 pm
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This is probably for the best. Let the people decide if the 'transgression' of raising money for chairty with the wrong letterhead is worth losing a democratically elected mayor over. Odds are the only people against it are the ones that have never been in his corner to begin with
duder replying to a comment from Mikes for Ford / November 30, 2012 at 02:26 pm
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For Chrissakes, its a figure of speech. Sure, Toronto has it good (very good, actually) compared to 99 per cent of the world. Doesn't mean we don't have some serious issues (transit, gridlock, council fighting over plastic bags, etc).

And I don't know what the hell you're talking about when you say "if you're good enough to criticize, let's hear the solutions". First off, pal, I'm a voter and a taxpayer, so I'll criticize ANY politician if I see fit. And you've got the right to criticize Vaughan, Chow or any other politician for that matter.

But while I'm at it, here's a solution: let's get a guy in office who actually WANTS to be mayor, is more intelligent than a six-year-old, understands actual issues without resorting to meaningless slogans, LISTENTS TO HIS OWN STAFF when they give him advice, doesn't blame others for his own mistakes...the list goes on and on.

I'm sick of this "looney left" garbage that gets parrotted here. Rob Ford has been by far the biggest municipal failure and embarassment in modern Toronto politics and I just can't get my head around people who support this guy regardless of what he does.
oops. / November 30, 2012 at 02:31 pm
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It's funny really because if he was a Left leaning politician and had used his position to get a donation to his team, he'd be up for a medal!
Alex / November 30, 2012 at 02:41 pm
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Why can't they just appoint Holyday mayor and move on? He's deputy mayor, so it makes sense for him to just be mayor for two years until we can vote for one. If there is one thing Ford has shown us, it's that the mayor doesn't actually have much power, so it's not a big deal who gets the job. Ford definitely shouldn't have it, considering he's shown us he's corrupt and thinks he's above the rules. I really don't like the idea of someone that corrupt and dumb being in charge while a bunch of large casino companies lobby the city like crazy.

To everyone saying he hasn't done anything bad as mayor, how about delaying the LRT lines by years? That is much needed infrastructure that has been delayed, and it will cost us a lot of money in lost productivity during the delay.
damnharris replying to a comment from RIck / November 30, 2012 at 02:47 pm
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Holyday had etobicoke in the black every single year he was in office. Things were excellent until harris forced all of us together.
Tommy replying to a comment from oops. / November 30, 2012 at 03:03 pm
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Correction: if he hadn't used City of Toronto letterhead and didn't participate in the vote then he'd be up for a medal. Look, no one is bashing his volunteering, we think it's great if it doesn't take away from his mayoral responsibilities.

What the city has to be concerned with (like any private business needs to be) is any possible image of taint or corruption. We aren't saying Ford is corrupt. We are saying he swayed too close to that line, which is absolutely unacceptable, especially since this is the city where the MFP scandal went down.

If I asked for donations with my company's letterhead, I'd be fired on the spot, even if it was a mistake. The image taint is too risky. Ford was lucky because council was going to let him get away with it, but he blew that too because of his stubbornness.
oops. replying to a comment from Tommy / November 30, 2012 at 03:11 pm
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Yes, we both know if he merely admitted his mistake and returned the money all would be forgiven and yes, he's a stubborn idiot who does not seem to make any sense on this simple fact, but still, if he was Left leaning in today's climate. he'd have gotten away with it. I do wonder sometimes if the extreme Right these days is merely a reaction to the Left and their attitude of waking up everyday to find a way to stir things up. Either way, I don't place much faith in politicians of either stripe as they seem more narcissistic than actually giving a shit about the job they were elected to do.
Z / November 30, 2012 at 03:20 pm
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It's interesting that so many people are blaming 'leftists' for Ford's ouster, when the judge who removed Ford is a conservative who was appointed to the bench by Stephen Harper.
Skye / November 30, 2012 at 03:53 pm
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Well, this seems fair to me. Let the public decide, once and for all! Especially since, the way the polls stand, he's going to be defeated by a landslide.
Stra / November 30, 2012 at 04:38 pm
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just put him back in office until 2014. Spare the city the costs of a byelection please because he'll be quickly re-elected - that seems pretty clear. Geez!
Johnny Tronno replying to a comment from Skye / November 30, 2012 at 04:40 pm
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Yes, but beaten by whom?

The polls say the majority won't vote for him but we don't have anyone running against him yet.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with you 100%. I just worry about the cesspool that will erupt when everyone and their brother (see what I did there?) will throw their hat into the ring. If anything, it might dilute the votes for Ford keeping him out. We just have to live with whatever person does get in.
GL replying to a comment from AA / November 30, 2012 at 04:45 pm
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Unfortunately it is entirely plausible for someone to win a mayoral race with 30% of the vote.

If only we ranked ballots in place. *sigh*
glenn storey replying to a comment from v79 / November 30, 2012 at 04:55 pm
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effects. grrrrrr.
Leah replying to a comment from Ian MacIntyre / November 30, 2012 at 04:57 pm
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I don't suppose you have proof that it isn't a conspiracy...and based on what I have seen and read... I believe it to be.
Lisa replying to a comment from GL / November 30, 2012 at 05:24 pm
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Actually he won with 47% of the vote. Roughly 53% of the population voted which actually was a higher voter turn out than the 2 elections David Miller ran in (39% in 2006 and 38% in 2002). No one seems to question the legitimacy of David Miller's election results if less than 40% of the population actually vs. 53%. It's funny how people rewrite history.
Josh / November 30, 2012 at 06:17 pm
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What an awesome precedent that's being set.
Josh replying to a comment from Z / November 30, 2012 at 06:24 pm
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I find this interesting also.

I thought Conservatives were all about accountability, and not being corrupt?
J replying to a comment from Leah / November 30, 2012 at 07:41 pm
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There are a lot of idiots like Leah, and they'll probably band together to reelect Ford. A conspiracy? Are you for real? You DO know what a conspiracy actually is, right? Ford not only openly admits to having broken the conflict of interest rules, he admitted to not even understanding what a conflict of interest IS. The punishment is quite clear and straightforward. Booted from office. Any councilor found guilty of the same offence would face the same.

I thought you Ford zealots were all about rooting out government corruption. But I guess when it's your guy abusing his power, it's a different story.
Leah replying to a comment from J / November 30, 2012 at 08:00 pm
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Ya, that's mature...instead of continuing to discuss and accepting that we all have different opinions...you go ahead start name calling. You know what...if Ford does end up getting re-elected in a by-election, it would confirm that Torontonians (yes...Toronto of 2012 instead of Toronto of 1970...get with the program) really wanted him in office. In that situation...maybe you need to leave Toronto because you are the idiot and everyone else knows better. In short...grow the f#$k up and get a clue about the democratic process.
evan / December 1, 2012 at 03:14 am
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I kinda want to see him back in. As ineffective as he was, I think he will be even more so after this humiliation. I think this will add fuel to the fire for a better leader in the next real election.
Michelle / December 1, 2012 at 04:13 am
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This is a rule for all public sector employees: you cannot identify yourself as a civil servant for the purpose of acquiring funds to support any social, political or other activity that is not for sanctioned fundraising out purposes to support the organization or patrons of the organization with which you are employed. If you do, you get fired. It's the law. There is no conspiracy and no politics at work here. I personally am appalled that he can be reelected. THERE is the politics. Why is the judge being nice? And imagine how all the many people who have made mistakes themselves who have lost their jobs in civil service, most of whom the public doesn't even know about. Imagine how that would feel. Just because he's the mayor and has money, he's going to get to keep his job?
Paul / December 1, 2012 at 10:42 am
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I don't really get why there's so much hate towards Ford for the $3,500 that went to charity, yet not nearly as much for McGuinty who allowed eHealth/ORNGE/etc. to go through and then suspend parliament and have all bills killed while the Liberals stall for time to replace him......I think its great to see politicians held accountable for improper actions like Ford is, but it seems like there are SOOOOOOOO many worse instances out there that go unpunished.
Shane / December 1, 2012 at 12:00 pm
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a mayor so nice, they'll let us vote for him twice.
Mayorialdreams / December 1, 2012 at 03:47 pm
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OLIVIA CHOW FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
realityCheck / December 2, 2012 at 03:52 pm
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I don't like Ford... I wish he wasn't mayor... but I think the support for people like Chow, Vaughan, Stintz and Shelley is a lot thinner than many folks here seem to think. The problem with the current slate of Ford opponents is that none of them can convince the electorate that they are fiscally prudent. And I include Stintz (Toronto's transit plan flipflopper) in that assessment. I am not conservative... but the key reason Ford is in power is because people saw him as representing fiscal sanity, compared to the previous Mayor. Conveying prudence will be critical for a successful challenger.
mezimeen / December 2, 2012 at 05:36 pm
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These comments are pretty good I guess....but if you want to read some real crazy stuff go to The Sun. It's soooooo good.
Gabe / December 3, 2012 at 12:17 am
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He should be allowed to run again, it's his right! A judge doesn't decide who runs this city, THE PEOPLE DO! Ford has a solid platform which is why he won the election it's just his delivery that's wrong, but his platform is a winning one...
Simon Tarses replying to a comment from Paul / December 3, 2012 at 01:04 pm
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Hey dummy, did you or did you not understand what was said above you? Here's a refresher:

'This is a rule for all public sector employees: you cannot identify yourself as a civil servant for the purpose of acquiring funds to support any social, political or other activity that is not for sanctioned fundraising out purposes to support the organization or patrons of the organization with which you are employed. If you do, you get fired. It's the law.'

Understand now? Or are you actually retarded on purpose?
Eric26 / December 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm
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Kids need coaches, Rob Ford. If you're good at being a coach BE A COACH, because you're terrible at being mayor.
Ford is the Best replying to a comment from AA / December 7, 2012 at 11:44 am
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@AA: "Angus Reid poll yesterday had 69% people surveyed in Toronto agreeing with the ouster." The same Angus Reid people who -- along with the Star and the Globe -- predicted a Smitherman win? Try again.

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