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What Toronto building should be demolished next?

Posted by Derek Flack / October 6, 2012

Rogers CentreThe news of the week was surely the announcement that David Mirvish and Frank Gehry plan to transform a stretch of King West that currently includes the Princess of Wales Theatre. Perhaps interestingly, the general sentiment seems to be that the building is a necessary casualty to the march of progress and superior architectural vision. So despite the fact that I've railed about all the wonderful buildings that Toronto has senselessly razed over the years, reaction to this project has me thinking about what other structures we might want to see bite the dust.

Over at Canada.com Marc Weisblott has already put together a list of potential candidates, which includes the Rogers Centre, the ROM, and Honest Ed's, amongst others. These buildings also make appearances in the suggestions below, which are derived from our Twitter followers. Other noteworthy (and surprising) additions include the iconic OCAD Building (sacrilege, I say), City Hall (what?), and a couple of concrete-clad downtown hotels.

I don't think I'd like to see any of these buildings replaced, but I'd be interested in hearing arguments for and against. Let us know in the comments what Toronto building you could do without or why we must protect the ones that have been mentioned here.

Photo by Tom Podolec in the blogTO Flickr pool

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tim / October 6, 2012 at 08:25 am
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Cumberland Terrace
steve replying to a comment from tim / October 6, 2012 at 09:29 am
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There is a proposal to redevelop Cumberland terrace.
Not much I would demolish in TO, it represents an era and style, some of it not so pretty some of it stunning and everything in between. I would prefer to see better plan for the city, more integration of the buildings with the street and the people. A strong move away from the car culture that hinders Toronto's livable factor. The suburbs want cars, fine they have the space and the need, the core has neither.
Bubba / October 6, 2012 at 09:42 am
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every condo along the lake shore along with the gardiner
hendrix replying to a comment from Bubba / October 6, 2012 at 10:13 am
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thanks... I live in one of those condos... can I come live in your place if that happens?
DJF / October 6, 2012 at 11:23 am
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Honest Ed's has been a candidate to come down for several years. I think it'll happen within five years.
Greg / October 6, 2012 at 11:55 am
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Honest eds should go.. It's a ugly heap
acv66 / October 6, 2012 at 12:53 pm
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the whole city should be tron down and designed by one person like Brasília , since according to all those post if something is ugly is should be removed. oh yea all the ugly people in the city as well , so about 50% of the pop
Jmac / October 6, 2012 at 01:51 pm
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It'll be interesting to see what happens when it comes out that honest eds is going to be demolished (I agree it's only a matter of time). I predict a huge outcry from people who never shop there, and a big campaign to preserve the signage even though it'll be very awkward to make use of it in any new building.
Adam / October 6, 2012 at 02:26 pm
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Being British and coming to Toronto from London (which is 95% out-of-date, run-down, buildings from the 30's and terraced housing), you should all take more time to appreciate how visually stunning this city is. Yes there may be one too many condos or the one oddly designed building but overall Toronto has one of the best skylines in the world and to this day I still walk around in awe of the buildings here.
seanm / October 6, 2012 at 07:18 pm
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Anyone who said City Hall or the CN Tower can GTFO. For good. Also, Queen's Park and Fort York? What are these people on?
Kevo / October 6, 2012 at 07:46 pm
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I don't get why people are hating on City Hall. It's one of the few pieces of modernist architecture that isn't a solid concrete block. Although parts of Nathan Phillips could be revamped, which they're currently doing, the building itself is beautiful and makes an interesting contrast between Old City City hall that was built at the height of Victorian times to a time when the city was on the verge of shedding its "Toronto the Good" image and about to undergo massive expansion.

Destroy CN Tower, Queen's Park, and Fort York? These people must have had massive lobotomies to think that any of these should be removed.

There are too many people in Toronto that complain about the buildings, but it's because they don't take a chance to look at them and appreciate the beauty - they think that every building should look like Versailles (but are unwilling to pay for it).

One structure I'd like to see destroyed would be the Gardiner, the shabbiness of it makes it seem like you're in LA or Detroit :S. If it had to be a building, it would be the Trump Tower. Gaudy, ugly, and does nothing for the downtown core, much like Trump's other ugly towers in Manhattan.
jen / October 6, 2012 at 07:52 pm
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Why would anyone want the grain silos to come down? They're beautiful in their dereliction. There's even a park around the south side of the ones at the Island Airport that gives you an incredible view of downtown.
Jeremy / October 6, 2012 at 07:54 pm
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To the dummy who said the CN Tower and Fort York Armoury. I'm absolutely baffled at how stupid and ignorant you are. You do not deserve to live in this city.
pho / October 6, 2012 at 07:58 pm
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The Skydome/Rogers Centre. Cold, ugly, outdated and totally impractical as a ballpark or as a football stadium. In about ten years, it will most likely be the only ballpark in the MLB with an artificial field. If Rogers had any self-respect, they would not put their name on such a shitty place. Solution: build a 35, 000 seat baseball-only stadium, save money by NOT putting in a retractable roof. If open-air stadiums can work in Chicago, New York, and Cleveland then they can work in Toronto. And have the Argos consider a stadium in North Etobicoke (possibly refurbish the stadium at Centennial Park) so it brings some much necessary out-of-core revitalization.
Benedict / October 6, 2012 at 08:51 pm
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People who don't like the ROM are weird
KevinN replying to a comment from Benedict / October 6, 2012 at 09:55 pm
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You have little knowledge about understanding architecture do you?
Mike replying to a comment from pho / October 6, 2012 at 10:33 pm
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Not that I disagree with you in the slightest, but my issue is location: Where are you gonna build this stadium? Nowhere in the core seems to be an option, so you'd be looking at somewhere in the 'burbs, which would be terrible.

I would sacrifice an aesthetically pleasing stadium for access. One of the only allures of Rogers Centre is its proximity to both transit and major arteries and that would be crucial to consider if a new stadium were to be built.
Toronto My Way / October 6, 2012 at 10:38 pm
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I think the Michael Lee Chin Crystal at the ROM is fantastic for several reasons http://torontomyway.blogspot.ca/2010/01/roms-crystal-i-love-it.html
Toronto My Way replying to a comment from KevinN / October 6, 2012 at 10:40 pm
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The architects who designed it know something about architecture.
jason / October 6, 2012 at 10:54 pm
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1. Holiday Inn Toronto-On King, 370 King Street West
2. Ontario place
3. Gardiner expressway
Dave replying to a comment from Mike / October 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm
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Build new football stadium on Ontario Place land.
Kevo replying to a comment from Dave / October 7, 2012 at 12:22 am
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A new football stadium on Ontario Place land is silly for 2 reasons: 1) Argos played at Exhibition stadium before and they had some bad problems with weather (Fog Bowl), plus since the CFL starts early and ends in mid-fall, the weather uncertainty the lake brings is bad. 2) Why build a 2nd stadium when BMO Field already exists and would fit a CFL-sized field?

Part of the thing that makes the Skydome unwelcoming are losing teams and apathetic fans. Almost every US stadium is very unwelcoming and a poor example to use because they're surrounded by 10,000 parking spots that sit empty 200 days a year. At least the Skydome is urban in its general nature.
cathie / October 7, 2012 at 08:28 pm
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The concrete eyesore condo at 3555 Bathurst Street. A small step towards a better city for all of us.
KevinN replying to a comment from Toronto My Way / October 7, 2012 at 10:15 pm
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Well, of course they know something about architecture... because they wouldn't be licensed if they couldn't stamp a piece of paper. But just because any architect designs anything that doesn't mean it is a good design.

Maybe the public don't realize the flaws of the building but let me explain some.

The building impedes off the property line and therefore setbacks are crossed and there the ROM is paying for Fees because of its invasion of say, airspace. Needed?

The museum displays along the walls are angled. Ask Anubis curator if placing artifacts and treasures are easy. Try fitting condo furniture in a room designed like the ROM.

Angled walls. Did you know you can't walk near some edges because of the angled walls because you'll hit your head? So what is the use of those spaces from9m a side profile?

Speaking of wasted spaces, have you seen an elevation or side view of how the new ROM connects to the old building? Did you see the amount of wasted space misused? Or unused?

The Crystal. I'm guessing most people don't remember that it was supposed to be more transparent but then had to quickly change the building envelope because they couldn't figure out the weather properly lol.

Handicap accessible button for doors. So yes it is to building code height, but did you know someone in a wheelchair has a hard time reaching it?

Ooh this one is interesting. Icicles! In the winter they have to rope off a section of the ENTRANCE because of the icicles forming off the 'crystal edges'. How lovely for your guests isn't it.

I could pick apart the building or any building for that matter, but 5is one missed the target by a long shot. If you really want to see a great building of Daniel, go to Germany and check out the Jewish museum. That is where his best work lies. Not the ROM, not the shopping center he did on Vegas.


People can love the building if they want, I don't care. But don't judge so quickly with smoke and mirrors. Be more analytical.
Toronto My Way replying to a comment from KevinN / October 8, 2012 at 12:34 am
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@KevinN

All great insights, but "Joe and Jane" walking by this or any other building likely isn't judging based on all these insights, especially those with respect to function; they're often judged on form and the emotional impact the design may or may not have.

There are people who would walk by a bunch of buildings, never enter one of them, and come away with an impression of the city, either good or bad, depending on their tastes.

A city's skyline or architectural profile is hardly something someone's going to assess based on the degree to which building codes were met.
mama said knock you down / October 8, 2012 at 04:36 am
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Rob Ford's House.

On the city's dime of course.

It gets better.

The city could then build him one of those ugly and fake looking, nouveau riche stone castles, with an elevator to his fully automated private subway. This subway would take him to all football field's and KFC's in the city, while avoiding those pesky journalists and pinko places, like city hall and biking lanes.

Rob Ford, Spending taxpayer's money... his way.
iSkyscraper / October 9, 2012 at 08:57 am
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Not torn down per se, but every single 70s apartment highrise scattered around the city (you know the ones, with the brick facing and the heavy concrete balconies and the crumbling canopies) needs major league renovation. They can go from sad to fab with investment in new windows, facade clean-up, lobby restoration, new landscaping, etc. It can be done -- see this transformation of similar structures at UPenn - go to http://www.mgapartners.com/, click on "Hamilton Village".
Aaron / October 9, 2012 at 04:57 pm
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95% of everything constructed in the last 20 years could go- although most of it will probably fall down of its own accord. Mirvish can take care of the rest.

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