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That time when Citytv played great movies

Posted by Ed Conroy / September 7, 2012

Citytv late great moviesToronto is a city in love with movies. Today, we are overwhelmed by how much choice we have to indulge that love, from TIFF to the reps, uncut and commercial free HD channels, $5 Blu-rays, streams, on demand, pirating or even just using our phones to gaze upon YouTube. Whatever our fancy, we live in a time of unprecedented access to movies.

No amount of programming wizardry or post-modern playlist shuffling, however, could ever come close to reproducing what it was once like to be a patron of that most eclectic festival of cathode ray mayhem, witness to a heady yet irresistible parade of high-brow art house, home grown Canadiana, beloved Hollywood classics and low-grade, gormless sleaze guaranteed to rattle, titillate and challenge our senses all hours of the day and night: Citytv's Great Movies.

As one of the core three tenets of old Citytv's identity — "News Movies Music," movies played a crucial role in forging their destiny, or rather, Baby Blue movies did. Even after all these years, people still talk about the Baby Blues with reverence because they not only helped defrost Toronto's frigid attitudes towards sex, but more importantly pushed the buttons of those wholesome squares who controlled television at the time. Watching Citytv in the '70s, especially the Baby Blues, was an act of insurrection.

In 1992, while celebrating their 20th anniversary, Citytv re-aired the original Baby Blue "The Best of the New York Erotic Film Festival," a fuzzy compilation of arty sex shorts acquired by Canadian producer Robert Lantos for $500. "The Voice" could hardly have been more on point when he stated "While we have gone through a lot of changes, the content of the following films have not":

As the Baby Blues cunning stunt achieved Moses Znaimer's goal of bringing both wanted and unwanted attention to Citytv's humble UHF location, (as well as probably inspiring David Cronenberg's masterpiece Videodrome, but that's another story...) the station also carved out a reputation for itself by showing regular movies too. The Great Movies skein screened double bills every night, with tacit acknowledgement that viewers were cool ("Before you go out tonight, see what's on Great Movies.") This was a marked contrast to other broadcasters' passive treatment of their audience. The fanfare evolved, with each progressive intro getting more complex and exciting: watching these, you knew that something special was about to flash onto your screen.

Themed weeks were popular — Godzilla, James Bond, Planet of the Apes, Elvis, Woody Allen, Shaw Brothers, Universal Monsters and Disaster films. Plenty of film enthusiasts from Toronto swear by the higher education they attained watching Great Movies, in an era before VCRs or Pay-TV. Not to mention the Late Great Movie phenomena, born out of large film collections which any other TV station would have rejected with a barge pole.

Trash, cheese and outright crap were celebrated at Citytv, first with The Not-So-Great Movie strand and then most memorably with the aural alchemy of The Voice, who with one gruff and ready sentence could sell you on a bad movie quicker than a million dollar advertising campaign could on a good one.

In the early '80s when 24/7 broadcasting was a new reality, Citytv populated the wee hours with music videos. After successfully launching MuchMusic in 1984, they switched to all night movies and once again, brilliantly, enlisted the City itself as a character in its own unfolding story: denizens of after-hours Yonge Street (back when it was grimy, soulful and a smidge dangerous) reminded viewers they were watching "Late Great Movies on Citytv!" Every commercial break shout out created instant camaraderie with shift-workers, insomniacs, ogling teenagers and whatever other assorted miscreants who were up at 4:00a.m. watching a W.C. Fields movie. Where are these people now?

There were some fascinating failures with the format as well: infamous rocker and Edison Twins theme composer Bob Segarini hosted Late Great Movies for one year in 1985 alongside producer (and now Ultimate Spider-Man writer) Ty Templeton, unleashing all manner of bad behavior and irreverent commentary that eventually got them fired (and rather proved Late Great didn't need a host - only a Voice).

While lately there has been a renewed interest in the horror hosts of yore, nobody talks much about Toronto's only known horror show, Monsters We've Known and Loved, which ran only eight weeks with host Gene Taylor dressed as some kind of singing and dancing camp Wolf-man.

A great boon to watching movies on Citytv was their punchy, liberal approach to censorship, with only the "mother" portion of a certain popular turn of phrase being muted (CRTC regulation or odd Oedipal issue?) while everything else — course language, gratuitous nudity, gore, awkward running times - remained intact. All the other commercial stations ran "TV versions" of popular Hollywood titles, meaning they were poorly re-dubbed and re-cut to fit strict running times and acquiesce to outdated puritanical broadcast standards. We can thank Moses Znaimer and his vision of Citytv for a lot of the freedoms on television which we maybe take for granted today.



By the 1990s, Citytv had added afternoon screenings of "More Great Movies" meaning anywhere from 4-6 titles a day were being played on the station. It was a wondrous time to be a movie fan. But as more specialty channels appeared, catering to all and sundry, and the notion of "home entertainment" pushed a world where people built their own collections of movies to watch in their home theatres, the event factor of movies on TV diminished greatly, as did the art of programming them. But from 1972 until the early 2000s, Toronto was treated to a kaleidoscopic trip though film history, via Baby Blues, obscure foreign, horror, musical, drama, war, T&A, comedy, western, thriller, Sci-Fi, and all points in between, some even scraped from the bottom of a particularly filthy barrel. Citytv played great movies!

Retrontario plumbs the seedy depths of Toronto flea markets, flooded basements, thrift shops and garage sales, mining old VHS and Betamax tapes that less than often contain incredible moments of history that were accidentally recorded but somehow survived the ravages of time. You can find more amazing discoveries at www.retrontario.com.

Discussion

33 Comments

AV / September 7, 2012 at 09:36 am
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"LATE GREAT MOVIES ON CITY TV!"
Brandon / September 7, 2012 at 09:44 am
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The UFO intro from '94 is instant teenager nostalgia for me
Who-ters / September 7, 2012 at 09:51 am
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Full Body Message, starring Mimi Rogers terrific breasts.

Man, i couldnt get enough of that when it came on !
JBThrice / September 7, 2012 at 09:56 am
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Looking at the schedule it would seem City tv have exactly 1 movie scheduled to play in the next week - The Wedding Singer, on Tuesday at 8pm. How the mighty have fallen.
GT's / September 7, 2012 at 10:10 am
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I'm watching you, watching me, watching Late Great Movies on CityTV
FoodFella / September 7, 2012 at 10:26 am
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Citytv used to be good. Then it got bought over by the Evil Red Monster and since then, they're more focused on promoting Rogers products and their lame reality shows.
Joshua / September 7, 2012 at 10:29 am
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Toronto was used for many films over the years, most lately in 2008 for "The Incredible Hulk". It wouldn't be a surprise that many people in the region love their great movies!
Dave / September 7, 2012 at 10:31 am
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I loved waiting to see how Mark Daly would make fun of the movies they were showing. Two in particular:

"Coming up in Highlander, Christopher Lambert battles the eternal curse... His complete lack of acting ability."

and

"Next up on Late Great Movies it's Convoy, starring Kris Kristofferson... Kris Kristofferson? Come on, go to bed."
RayRay replying to a comment from FoodFella / September 7, 2012 at 10:32 am
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Agreed. Citytv played the best movies now its absolute crap television shows. Quite sad how far they've fallen.
Loyd / September 7, 2012 at 10:32 am
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@FoodFella CTV killed City, Robbers are just defiling the corpse
James / September 7, 2012 at 10:37 am
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If it weren't for Late Great Movies, I would have never discovered my favourite movie of all time, The Warriors, which on CityTV, also featured the special uncut edition with the alternate opening (keeping in mind this kind of thing was way before the advent of DVDs).
Crap / September 7, 2012 at 10:40 am
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I have not watched City-TV in years... Why should I? To watch crappy talent shows? No Thanks!

They ruined Moses's vision and brilliance.
Thank you / September 7, 2012 at 10:59 am
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staying up to watch Porkys on city was a rite of passage
j-rock / September 7, 2012 at 11:04 am
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I can remember sneaking back downstairs to watch "Porky's" and other films that 10 year-olds probably shouldn't have been.

I really enjoy these City-TV retrospectives, but they make me sad to remember what this station used to be, in comparison to what it has become. I fully understand that saying "It was better in my day..." is one of the first signs of old, or at least middle-age, but sometimes it's just true.
Spike replying to a comment from FoodFella / September 7, 2012 at 11:08 am
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Sorry, but the rot set in WAY before the Rogers buyout; the family that owned CHUM didn't give a frack about anything, that's what CITY and CHUM were sold to CTV Globemedia and Rogers. It's too bad that Moses Z. can't get some investors to back him in buying back his station(s) (CITY TV, Much, Much More, Space, Bravo etc.) from Bell Media and Rogers.
Spike replying to a comment from FoodFella / September 7, 2012 at 11:20 am
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Also, I don't know how Great Movies was supposed to survive in a universe of pay-TV and pay-per-view options, as well as DVD availability.
Thank you replying to a comment from Spike / September 7, 2012 at 11:26 am
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No pay channels show the kind of movies that city used to, well maybe drive in classics did but where is that now?
Sandra / September 7, 2012 at 11:33 am
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Back then you could actually watch movies on TV and they would break for commercials every 15 mins unlike today where they seem to break for commercials every 7-8 minutes.
Simon Tarses replying to a comment from Thank you / September 7, 2012 at 11:39 am
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Drive-In Classics died for the same reasons that I mentioned above, plus my guess is the movies weren't appealing to people. Plus, most of those could/can be seen on TCM and Moviepix.
Fluke / September 7, 2012 at 11:54 am
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Moviepix sucks
Jacob / September 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm
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Americans are nostalgic for that epic old HBO opening. As a city, this is our equivalent.

Great movies, great times. Before 100+ cable channels, DVDs, and the internet made it all irrelevant. There was something special about *not* being able to watch whatever you want to watch whenever you wanted to.
Spike replying to a comment from Fluke / September 7, 2012 at 12:27 pm
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Okay, then, there's Silver Screen Classics (http://www.silverscreenclassics.com/) that does the same thing as Drive-In Classics-and without ads.
fappy / September 7, 2012 at 01:55 pm
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Awesome. '94 intro rocks. Too bad CityTV has been obliterated.
Put your balls on it! replying to a comment from j-rock / September 7, 2012 at 03:00 pm
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Haha, same here. Fairly certain that as a young lad, I saw my first set of boobies on one of the late greats. I'm almost getting a chubby just thinking about it *sniffle*
Sean / September 7, 2012 at 03:52 pm
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Mark Daly. His intros made 'Great Movies' (which were anything but) what they were. Hilarious everytime.
Spike replying to a comment from Jacob / September 7, 2012 at 04:18 pm
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Uh, have you ever heard of something called a VCR? Or a laserdisc player?
Michelle / September 7, 2012 at 06:49 pm
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Awww. Good 'ol CityTV. Sure do miss the movies. And poor Mark Dailey. Rest in peace. What a voice.
heeheheh / September 10, 2012 at 01:10 am
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Mark Daly's bitterness made my life. Nostalgia!!
Jeremy / September 11, 2012 at 12:29 pm
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Mark Dailey was a true Toronto legend (despite being American).

His voice will be familiar to me until the day I die.
Daniel / September 15, 2012 at 02:32 am
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I haven't been here in Canada (and the GTA) for too long--just 5 years. But I still came in at the time City still had their Great Movies at 1pm and "Late Great..." at 1am, and then the Baby Blue Movies every Saturday early morning after Jimmy Kimmel...but that was sort of the "last stand" right before the big sale...
Dean / October 26, 2012 at 02:28 am
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Hey anyone know the list of some of the names of the movies they played on city tv in the early to mid 2000's before they stopped airing?
william / March 1, 2013 at 02:42 pm
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What ever happened to Channel 47 cable 4 and their Italian nudy comedy movies. Boy i remember staying up all night watching those on my Black and White TV.

Are these movies anywhere on the internet??
Trevor Clarke / May 13, 2013 at 11:46 pm
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Ha! I remember this City TV intro for late great movies in 1985 when the played Poltergeist! I was like 7! I was so excited to watch it on our new Sony Trinitron TV set! Too awesome! ...:)

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