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Legal case could result in Rob Ford's removal from office

Posted by Derek Flack / March 12, 2012

Rob Ford Legal Case Removal OfficeWhen news broke earlier this morning that Toronto resident Paul Magder and lawyer Clayton Ruby would submit a legal application to remove Mayor Rob Ford from office, the question on most people's minds was whether or not there was actually a legitimate case to be made. Was this a publicity stunt or serious stuff? As it turns out, it more the latter than the former. The substance of the case against Ford involves Ontario's Municipal Conflict of Interest Act and an incident in 2010 in which the mayor solicited donations for his high school football charity, the Rob Ford Football Foundation.

Despite the fact that the Integrity Commissioner found that this act violated council's Code of Conduct, Ford never returned the funds. Fast forward to last month, and the issue was back on council's agenda as a motion was put forward to absolve Ford of the need to return the funds. Prior to the vote, Ford defended himself to council and, fatefully, cast a vote in his own favour. The motion passed 22-12, but that's where Ford's problems actually begin.

Over at OpenFile John Michael McGrath has a great little rundown of why that decision was so problematic:

"So how can Ford be in trouble if council declared he did nothing wrong? Because he had a direct monetary interest in the outcome of the vote — the donations that he was supposed to refund to lobbyists — and he voted on the matter in council. This is explicitly illegal under the Ontario Municipal Conflict of Interest Act. The MCIA is designed to keep municipal politicians from using their influence for financial gains, so any matter with a "pecuniary interest" is one where the councillor involved is supposed to declare a conflict and recuse himself. Under no circumstances was Ford supposed to vote for this motion."

As GOB Bluth would say, "I've made a huge mistake." The penalty for a conflict of interest of this sort is nothing short of removal from office. Will that happen? It's obviously too early to tell. Ford will likely argue that the vote was an error in judgment — which could get him off or a reduced penalty — but that won't be as straightforward as it might sound.

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Discussion

62 Comments

Ryan / March 12, 2012 at 12:07 pm
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My prediction is that he'll give the money back and apologize. Or rather, that's what other politicians would do. Ford, on the other hand will probably blame the pinkos and keep on fighting this. What a non-story. If Ford's political team is worth anything, they should tell him to ignore this and it'll go away. Give this as little press as possible and it'll die soon enough.
From what we've experienced from Ford though, he can't let anything just pass by and he'll fight this. Boy, would I love to be a political advisor to him right now.
auditorydamage / March 12, 2012 at 12:14 pm
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I'd be shocked if he were actually tossed from office, but that vote was an obvious conflict of interest. He had no excuse to participate in the vote, and if he's going to argue error he'll have to answer why he didn't request a re-vote similar to the recent council TTC re-votes.

Anyone involved with a governance structure for any length of time is supposed to be aware of the concept of conflict of interest, and how it applies to the structure ze is involved with. Those rules aren't just technical guidelines or suggestions - conflicts can, and do, result in highly negative outcomes as the conflicted parties make decisions benefitting themselves rather than the organization as a whole. I watched one beloved community organization collapse due to the effects of a massive conflict of interest that also violated the organization's bylaws.
Marlon / March 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm
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clayton ruby is the johnny cochrane of toronto. All mudslinging aside; he wouldn't be pursuing this if he believed it to be a waste of time. You guys should have a look at his record. he doesn't really lose. it should be an interesting summer.
Tulse / March 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm
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"Ford will likely argue that the vote was an error in judgment"

He has, however, recused himself in the past on votes because of conflict of interest, so it would be very difficult for him to claim successfully that he doesn't understand the rules.
Matt EH / March 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm
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If it happens we need a street party to collectively sing the "Hey Hey Hey, Good Bye" song
sueford / March 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm
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well the lawsuit does have legal bearing, and that facts are public and did happen. But it hinges on is what the judge wants to happen in this situation. I doubt he will be removed from house, but he could be fined though. But this lawyer is actually very good as what he does, I very much doubt ford will walk away unscathed.
Angie / March 12, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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I think he'll just bully, blame the left and sweep this under the rug. Rob doesn't have an apologetic bone in his body.
The Doctor / March 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm
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There couldn't be a much more cut-and-dry and egregious case than this one. Ford directly, personally benefits, as I'm sure he personally would have been in the position of returning the funds had the vote not passed. I think the only mitigating factor is that council likely would have voted in Ford's favour either way, seeing as (and I actually know nothing of his "charity") it seems like some sort of youth group charitable organization. However, the fact is that Ford has shown a complete disregard of a very important statute, and ignorance of the law is no defence. So let's hope the case draws a good judge and we can draw an end to the Ford era of horrible government!
Gregory Alan Elliott / March 12, 2012 at 12:27 pm
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It was for a charity to put disadvantaged youth in football gear, no? Nothing will happen. Except the usual angry "left overs" will drool... Christopher Hume will rub related news articles all over his body... and more of our media will be constipated by yet another "non-issue"... Oh yeah, and taxpayers' money will be wasted. Is anyone else getting tired of these games? Of not, ask yourself why not.
ford replying to a comment from Gregory Alan Elliott / March 12, 2012 at 12:33 pm
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it had nothing to do with the money, but that he voted to acquit himself on the council vote which is a huge conflict of interest, which is illegal. He should of excused himself, like he dd on a vote last week dealing with the board walk rest. vote. He has to convince a judge that it was accidental.
Matthew Fabb / March 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm
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Note the OpenFile article points out that even if Rob Ford was found guilty any appeals would last several years. Quite likely pass the point of 2014 election.
FS / March 12, 2012 at 12:36 pm
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Sounds like an episode of Boardwalk Empire or better yet, The Wire.
I voted for the homeless guy / March 12, 2012 at 12:44 pm
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Don't worry kids, our beloved Mayor will be just fine.
Mr Kanyo replying to a comment from I voted for the homeless guy / March 12, 2012 at 01:03 pm
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Kevin Clarke 2014
glenn storey / March 12, 2012 at 01:08 pm
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a/ clayton ruby is very very smart.
b/ rob ford is not.
c/ rob ford is very very cheap. he probably won't even hire a lawyer because of this.
d/ he's still got a libel suit proceeding against him.
Senator Davis replying to a comment from FS / March 12, 2012 at 01:19 pm
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shiiiiiiiiit.
Just askin' / March 12, 2012 at 01:30 pm
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Has anyone checked to see if this is indeed a legal, registered charity? Or is a Rob Ford"vanity" project?
David / March 12, 2012 at 01:34 pm
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So the right tries to get the province to handle the TTC mess and the lefties all whine and whine and whine all day. "NO! You can't override council! You can't go against the will of council!!!"

Yet here they are championing smug Clayton Ruby to do just that - override council. Dirty hypocrites.
auditorydamage replying to a comment from David / March 12, 2012 at 01:36 pm
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Ford's blatant conflict of interest was council's will? You *do* understand that if he'd left the room and stayed out for the debate and vote, there would be no legal issue, right?
Elliott Ness / March 12, 2012 at 01:37 pm
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Reminds me of another overweight bully with Chicago connections who left school early but rose to prominence as a businessman who gave the people what they wanted. He also liked to keep things "underground". Funny thing is, he couldn't keep his books straight, which is what ultimately ended his chokehold on power. Stranger things have happened...
Derrrrrp replying to a comment from David / March 12, 2012 at 01:37 pm
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Um... You can't circumvent the law, no matter who you are.

GRAARG replying to a comment from The Doctor / March 12, 2012 at 01:42 pm
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"Ford personally benefits"

Acutally he doesn't. And I suspect that will be his angle. That there was no benefit bestowed upon him... the beneficiary was the charity. And since the benificiary of the lobbying was the charity then he couldn't benefit from the vote... or something to that effect.

. / March 12, 2012 at 01:44 pm
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Ah yes, the poor lefties are getting all upset because they're.. well, poor lol.

Us wealthy folk don't like to associate with them though.
DerpaDerp / March 12, 2012 at 01:45 pm
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His removal from office would be WAY too good to be true. As much as I want it, I don't see it happening for whatever reason. Perhaps it'll be fun to watch in any case.
scott / March 12, 2012 at 01:55 pm
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Deus ex machina! This would be incredible, but kind of like cheating. I like it better when the city repudiates him little by little than having an unlooked for hand reach down from the sky and pluck him from office.

But whatever; I'll take what I can get.
David replying to a comment from auditorydamage / March 12, 2012 at 01:58 pm
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Council voted and the issue was over and done with. Now the left is re-opening it and trying to circumvent council (similar to the way Ford has been doing things). Hypocrites!
Matthew Fabb replying to a comment from David / March 12, 2012 at 02:07 pm
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This lawsuit isn't trying to get Rob Ford to pay back the lobbyist and over turning city council's will. The issue is that Ford broke the law by not excusing himself from the vote and by making a speech during the debate. If Ford pays back the money, it doesn't change the fact that he still broke the provincial law where you can't be involved in a vote that you have a financial interest in.

Now the funds involved are small in this case, over $3,000 but the law is there because it could involve millions if not billions of dollars. Still the law doesn't focus on how much money is involved, but whether there was a conflict of interest with the politician voting on the issue.

Also note that the lawsuit against Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion recently also dealt with the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act. However, the stakes were higher dealing with a land deal with Hazel's son that was worth $1.5 billion. She ended up being found not guilty and there was a report from a public inquiry into the case that suggested the province overhaul and expand the act.
stupidrighties replying to a comment from David / March 12, 2012 at 02:14 pm
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OH yes it is all the left's fault, sh!t i didn't even know about this until today, guess what in your ignorant eyes it is all the left's fault. but he did break the law, but hey if the left broke the law you righties would be yelling and screaming, but when you righties break the law, there is nothing to see. hypocrites.
Alex / March 12, 2012 at 02:17 pm
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He'll be found guilt and have to pay a fine or something, no way they'll remove him from office on something this small. It was a few grand for a charity, and I'm almost positive it passed by more than one vote.

We don't need him kicked out of office anymore, council found their backbone. If he tries anything really stupid or crazy, they'll just ignore him again. He's back to being a lone councillor.
wrong / March 12, 2012 at 02:24 pm
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people it is not about the money, but he voted & debated in that he was in direct conflict with. He should of excused himself, but did not. that is what this is about, not about the money. geeezzzz.
illiterati replying to a comment from wrong / March 12, 2012 at 02:35 pm
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we don't like to read but we sure like to comment
dv / March 12, 2012 at 03:07 pm
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Let's face it folks, this is going to be viewed as a technicality by most people, and so is going to get spun as the unnecessary, waste-of-time victimization of a perhaps bumbling, but ultimately innocent, man. I don't think this case serves the left's interests in the long run.
Miroslav Glavić / March 12, 2012 at 03:13 pm
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Paul Magder worked in Adam CF's school trustee campaign (which Adam didn't win by the way).

Adam has being on a political witch hunt for Ford.

Ford was democratically eleted. When are left wingers going to finally get that? Ford does things differently, get over it. Left wingers didn't exactly open up to right wingers.

What about the left wing politicians who try to buy votes with taxpayers money? why isn't Paul Magder going after them?.
Rich replying to a comment from Miroslav Glavić / March 12, 2012 at 03:22 pm
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Dude.... the train left the station and you obviously forgot to get on it.
Alex replying to a comment from Miroslav Glavić / March 12, 2012 at 03:27 pm
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Buying votes with taxpayers money? That's crazy! No politicians would ever do something like that! When they promise a subway that has no funding to win an election they're not going to use taxpayer money to pay for it. No sir. Those billions of dollars are going to come from...you know...from where they come from! There, solved.

Now, if you're talking about people that actually broke the law to win an election, you must be referring to the federal Conservative party. They used autocallers and volunteers to call non-Conservative voters and keep them from voting by telling them the wrong place to go vote, or harass them and pretend to be the other parties.

If you're referring to the general practice of making promises at election time for new, popular, expensive programs (like mandatory minimum sentences, full-day kindergarten, or free secondary schooling) then all parties are guilty of that. There will never be a party elected on the platform of doing nothing. Why run for office if you don't want to actually do anything? Unless you're an Anarchist and believe there should be no government and ran for government so you could dissolve it.
bro / March 12, 2012 at 03:32 pm
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This clayton ruby is sooo lucky doug ford is an elected official otherwise he would get knocked out in 10 seconds flat. doug ford had been kickboxing for over 10 years and if doug weren't an elected official there would be one less lawyer on the streets i can guarantee you that.
auditorydamage replying to a comment from David / March 12, 2012 at 03:45 pm
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I'm going to explain this slowly and clearly.

No one is trying to reopen the vote on releasing Ford from his obligation to repay funds that the integrity commissioner ruled he had raised for his football charity in violation of city rules. This lawsuit deals with Ford's own participation in the council debate and the vote, which released him from a personal financial obligation to the city. That is a clear conflict of interest, and Ford will have to explain why he didn't recuse himself.
MCRib replying to a comment from dv / March 12, 2012 at 03:46 pm
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i gotta agree, all this will end up doing is galvanizing Fords supporters even more, which could result in another suburban gangbang next election at the expense of the old city.

Its probably better to let RoFo hang himself while in power, and show his supporters the error of their ways.
fordtroll replying to a comment from Miroslav Glavić / March 12, 2012 at 03:47 pm
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spreading your cr@p here just like on twitter you ford troll.
Jessie replying to a comment from Gregory Alan Elliott / March 12, 2012 at 03:57 pm
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I agree, this is a waste of time. If he wasn't fat none of this would be happening.
treaclea replying to a comment from Gregory Alan Elliott / March 12, 2012 at 04:04 pm
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Hey are you that vandal poet guy?
Paul Godfred / March 12, 2012 at 06:04 pm
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Should go after David Miller for wasting $50 million for NOT building a bridge for Island Airport.
ff replying to a comment from Paul Godfred / March 12, 2012 at 06:29 pm
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what about all the money ford is wasting, i think we should go after him as well. only fair.
steve / March 12, 2012 at 06:40 pm
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How did we get to a point were the political climate gives up people
like Ford gets to be a Mayor and is supported by large groups of people. There actions are acceptable, encouraged. What a sick world we live in.
Jay and the Pro-Ford Comment Trolls / March 12, 2012 at 09:12 pm
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We are so MAD but we will WIN!!!! its too bad our master Doug Ford is a elected official or he would KICK the lawyor's ASS!!!!!1 Anyway's we are Quiet right now but only becuase we are waiting for Sue Anne Levey to tell us what too say!!!!! like what funny name to call him like Gord "Guard My" Perks HAHAHAAHA. so funny. oh by the way "Karen STINKS"!!!!!! lol lol lollllll WE WILL WIN u socialist's!!!!!!!!1
sezme replying to a comment from GRAARG / March 12, 2012 at 09:43 pm
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"Acutally he doesn't [benefit]. And I suspect that will be his angle. That there was no benefit bestowed upon him... the beneficiary was the charity. And since the benificiary of the lobbying was the charity then he couldn't benefit from the vote... or something to that effect."

Oh yes he does so benefit. He benefitted from Council's decision by not having to pay back over $3000 of his own money. Never mind that the donated money went to his own personal charity to buy some kids football helmets. What Council debated was whether he should have to abide by the Integrity Commissioner's decision to punish him by giving back the money. Note that the kids would (probably) still get to keep their football helmets that the original money paid for. Robbo would have to pay the $3000 out of his own pocket as punishment for the original conflict of interest in using his City Councillor letterhead to solicit money for his charity.

But thanks in part to his vote, and in part to his speech on the matter in flagrant violation of clear-cut conflict of interest rules, Council voted to ignore the Integrity Commissioner's report. And it is for that interference that he will be removed from office. Maybe.

Anyway, if Ruby does win while Ford is still in office, what happens then?
clarification replying to a comment from GRAARG / March 13, 2012 at 01:11 am
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Rob Ford stood to benefit financially because the previous vote in 2010 required that he pay back the money that was donated to the charity which Rob didn't do. The new vote was to decide whether or not Rob had to pay back the money or not. It is irrelevant that council voted that Rob did not have to pay back the money, the legal sticking point is the fact that Rob, as a person who had a conflict of interest, should not have voted. If he is seen to have excused himself in previous votes for conflict of interest he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

As juicy as all this is, I think that it is unlikely RF will be removed from office, perhaps a slap on the wrist or he may be asked to pay back the money. In the end, our citizenry does not get up in arms when they should. We allow politicians to take more and more liberties at the cost of our democracy. We sit back and allow back room shenanigans in municipal/provincial and federal governments and we know it's wrong but are too complacent to do anything. We want democracy in name, but we, unlike people around the world (for example in Egypt), aren't willing to fight for it or take action. We are pacifists and we will let our governments continue to erode our democracy and rights until one day when we will realize we have lost so much.

I must cheer Paul Magder, he is willing to take action to make sure politicians are responsible to their electorate. Bravo! To those thinking this is pinko/left-wing bs, it's sad that your blinders have made you miss the point.
karen / March 13, 2012 at 01:31 am
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On principle,Torontonians should pay if forward by making next year's usual donations to his Foodball Foundation, instead payable to Rob Ford who will then 'repay' the foundation, which will be able to spend the $3,200 or so when it is ready to do so.
Case closed.
karen / March 13, 2012 at 01:31 am
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Don't forget to get a receipt! And hand it in.
karen replying to a comment from auditorydamage / March 13, 2012 at 01:35 am
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Why wasn't he ruled out of order? because they wanted to hear from him.
Mark / March 13, 2012 at 10:07 am
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Can of worms. Even if they are successful in proving Ford willfully tried to circumvent the conflict of interest rules, there will be thousands of his voters who will see this as nothing but a witch hunt and a way to circumvent the democratic process. This will haunt city politics for years to come. Ford supporters will use the same process to tie up the future mayors with the same lawfare suits. The only ones benefiting will be Ruby and his shysters.
sezme / March 13, 2012 at 10:50 am
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Don't think for a minute that there aren't a lot of right-leaning councillors who aren't happy about this. They may having the political edge in council, but having Rob Ford as Mayor can't be easy, even for people who do tend to agree philosophically with his platform. Also, many of them are just waiting for their chance to run and wouldn't mind at all if the Fords vanished in a puff of blue smoke.

As to the voters who will see this as a witch hunt, it really is a shame when the rule of law gets so little respect that someone in a position of power is granted leave to violate whatever cheques and balances on that power exist (council's ruling: irrelevant! conflict of interest: who cares!). Why anyone would allow a politician (left or right) that kind of royal privilege is beyond me.
Yo Ma Ma / March 13, 2012 at 11:05 am
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Oooh, fun - I hope that Clayton kicks him to the curb ...
GRAARG replying to a comment from Mark / March 13, 2012 at 11:29 am
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You are correct. Legal merit aside, this is sure to sharpen the partisan pitchforks for years to come and is a nasty escalation.

We should expect lawsuits delving into the minutae of every law and statute. Oh what a happy governance system we will have when every election is followed by numerous lawsuits alleging each and everything - many with no real intent of winning (though this one surely seems to be) but more of a mud-slinging sore loser retaliation from those on all sides of the political spectrum.

Once firmly into the realm of politics by lawsuit we will look fondly back on the days of robocalls and attack ads and remember them fondly as the benign days of partisan politics.
Christopher / March 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm
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Rob Ford is way over his head as mayor and the folks of Toronto should have never voted for him.
Zed / March 13, 2012 at 01:36 pm
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...and this is a surprise to anyone? All politicians are corrupt, and it's a prerequisite for getting people to vote for you in the first place and believing you are not. This will be tomorrow's news...tomorrow!
GRAARG replying to a comment from Zed / March 13, 2012 at 01:44 pm
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I am sure there is plenty of fodder for these sort of law suits. If this goes anywhere you can bet that there will be a rash of them - I would assume every city councillor is now examining his/her election finances, how they solicit funds for activities in their wards, etc. and deep sixing any discrepencies they can find.

You can just imagine some rabid Ford supporters looking through Stintz's, Vaughan's, etc just looking for a small screw up.

This is not a healthy development no matter your opinion on the mayor.
Alex replying to a comment from GRAARG / March 13, 2012 at 02:17 pm
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This is a very healthy development, especially in a time when our politicians seem to be getting more and more corrupt. This isn't a small screw-up either, this is someone voting on a motion for whether or not they personally had to pay $3000 dollars. That is an obvious conflict of interest! I don't care what the result of the lawsuit is (though for such a small sum of money I assume it will be a fine and slap on the wrist), the point is to make politicians aware that we aren't going to just sit back and let them do whatever they want.

For everyone that ignored the Liberal spending scandal, the proroguing of parliament and general disregard for democracy of the Conservatives, the constant decline in voter turnout, the robocall issue, and all the local civic offences, you need to wake up. If you don't stand up for democracy you'll lose it.
EveryonesOpinion / March 15, 2012 at 10:28 am
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By any means necessary
Are you fucking kidding? replying to a comment from GRAARG / March 15, 2012 at 11:03 am
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A clear and important rule was broken. this doesn't mean there will be lawsuits after every election. believe me if miller was as incompetent as to give the right something to run with they would have ran with it. Same goes for the left, People have been looking for a reason to get rid of ford since he was elected. you can't put a lawsuit against an elected politician for nothing. This is a big deal. conflict of interest exists for a reason and it is very clean cut. the fact that ford tripped on this clear as day obstacle speaks to his stupidity very loudly. mayors before him weren't that stupid and hopefully mayors after him won't be that stupid. This is a one off this isn't the beginning of a trend. the lawyers have always been on the side line waiting for this kind of opportunity no matter who is in office. its just that most elected officials are too ,I don't know, not retarded? to make these mistakes.
Are you fucking kidding? replying to a comment from GRAARG / March 15, 2012 at 11:06 am
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also you seem to think this is about the fundraising. it isn't. its about him speaking on and voting on a subject that was a clear conflict of interest. if he had not clayton ruby would have nothing but as conflict of interest is the most important law for keeping corruption out of politics clayton ruby was given a lot.
Kate / March 16, 2012 at 12:07 am
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Dudes right. Where I come from they think your brilliant and re-elect you if your the mayor and you buy land to resell to the city or town that your mayor of for a profit, that's pretty common. Even dear Hazel got rapped for that one, but dumb dumb needs to know better. Soliciting donations for personal use is really sleazy and then to vote for yourself!! GRAAG is right, Jumbo isn't smart enough and clearly he isn't seeking great advice from Dumbo his brother. Let's hope getting him out of office is a short process. Also and ironically where I come... The GM "Ford" car acronym commonly stood for; "Found On Road Dead"!

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