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Is the TTC ready to smarten up (on fare collection)?
In the wake of last week's robbery at Dupont Station, there has been much discussion about fare collection and station staffing. In his characteristically delicate and factually-accurate fashion, Doug Ford suggested that automated fare collection might the solution to reduce temptation to criminals. Given the Ford brothers love of unions, his statement immediately caused some confusion as to whether he was simply suggesting more fare automation or using safety as an excuse to remove staff from the stations entirely. Cue much ado.
Regardless of the Councillor's specific meaning, the topic is an interesting one given the transition the TTC finds itself in as it moves towards adopting the Presto smartcard system and starting construction on its first "real" LRT lines. These two factors will allow the TTC for the first time to seriously consider the question of whether staff should be in any kind of "station" at all and what their roles should be. As always, it can be helpful to study the world outside the 416 for some case studies and guidance.
First, the issue of smartcards. Discussed ad naseum over the past couple years, the details no longer matter. What matters is that Toronto will finally be getting one. A quick survey of major transit systems shows that most have indeed now moved towards adopting some form of smartcard.
With such technology in place, whither the token clerk? Once it fully adopted its Metrocard (technically not a smartcard but an earlier generation of stored-value card) and killed the token, New York made several highly publicized attempts to reduce the number of its "token booths" and staffing levels. Though there has been some resistance, and all stations remain staffed at all times, there are many fewer clerks now in the system. Fares are still sold at booths, but most transactions have been shifted to automated vending machines, which are more numerous than booth attendants and typically have a shorter line.
Even with these changes, violent robbery attempts do still occur in New York from time to time, so why not eliminate selling tickets from the booths entirely? Several cities such as Boston, Chicago and Washington DC have gone this route, where stations remain staffed with customer service agents but all fare transactions must be conducted at the automated machines at all times.
Some smaller subway systems have taken the next step and eliminated all staff, relying not only on automated machines to sell turnstile or Proof of Payment fares but also cameras and phone stations to provide security. Notable examples include Vancouver, New York's PATH system, Philly's PATCO system and the Los Angeles Metro.
Finally, with the fares moved to machines and the staff gone, should the turnstiles disappear as well? Nearly every LRT system in the world uses Proof of Payment (POP), even for systems like Seattle, Pittsburgh or San Diego that have underground segments. However, Boston and San Fransisco do use turnstiles for their underground LRT stations and Los Angeles is now installing them. Cleveland did just the opposite in 2009, removing turnstiles from their subway stations because they already had POP in use on their connecting light rail lines. The cost of turnstiles is ultimately a calculation of equipment and maintenance weighed against likely lost revenue from fare-dodgers.
What does all of this mean for Toronto? As the smartcard table shows, the TTC has hardly been on the bleeding edge of fare collection technology or operations. The trend from peer cities seems to indicate a future of all-automated fare collection with staffed customer service attendants only where warranted (i.e. all subway stations and the interchange underground Eglinton LRT stations). With even the streetcars removing the handling of cash from drivers change is in the air. It just won't be in the token booth.
Guest contribution by Larry Green
Lead photo by Scott Snider


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• Automated ticket/pass machines that accept cash, credit and debit.
• Toronto enters the 21st century.
Also don't understand why it'll take so many years to implement on buses and streetcars either.
Don't know if Token will be completely gone as you will still need to cater to customers who wants single/cash fare. A one time user (e.g. tourists) will not want to buy a Presto card. Perhaps token will be gone but cash fare machines (that will print out POP) will be installed in all stations.
The TTC should implement a similar strategy so everyone uses them.
They have so many advantages!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metro_ionguevane.jpg
Hot, humid, smelly, and looking like a industrial-age nightmare.
In any case, we're off topic. Re fares, I think POP for the entire system would be a very, very interesting idea. Toronto is not all that different than Berlin in its size, density and transit setup (however skeletal)... Could it be done? If the city's true future is a hop-on, hop-off transit city (lower case) filled with streetcars, buses, LRT and subway, why not? Ditch the 1950s rigidity in one fell swoop, make a monthly Presto all but a requirement of city living, and let freedom ring.
Maybe from what you read on Wikipedia, but not in real life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpm-ZIPMeOQ
they have it right,
and toronto should go to a zone fare as well...
With that said, Toronto should move to a smart-card system if it's more efficient and cost effective. The decision should not be baste soley on safety of fare collectors. I can swipe my credit card at just about any parking lot, coffe shop, or whatever in the city. Pizza delivery can do wireless debit. There is no reason I should not be able to hop on a bus and just swipe my debit or credit card for my fare.
Taking the train to JFK is depressing until you get to Howard Beach. I think the metrocards are great but I often have to swipe my debit/credit card times ten times before I can purchase one. Not the end of the world, but it is still annoying. Same goes for the multiple swipes through the turnstyles.
I also recognize that there is a ton of work being done on the various lines, but it's pretty annoying at times. The L is constantly down on weekends, and when that happens, it's a nightmare. A few weeks ago, stood at Morgan waiting for the bus, and had to wait for 4 buses to pass through before I was able to get on one. Also, just flew in to Newark recently when the L was down, and it took about an hour and half to get home from Port Authority when a normal trip with fully functioning lines would have been 30 mins.
NY kicks TO's ass hands down, but it's still by no means perfect.
As to replacing tickets and tokens with whatever mod and coll electronic card exists, here's some alternate views:
The transit systems are in the business of transportation, not novelties.
The bus routes in Toronto are already overflowing, any new spending at this time should be on more frequent service, not attracting people simply entertained by the beep, or whatever sound this thing makes when you swipe it.
In fact, bring your credit card to my house and I will make a beep sound and withdrawal money from your account, today!
From another wiser person:
As for illiminating the fare media...forget it. One of the things the TTC does very well...is know their customer. They kept the token for one very good reason....a LOT of TTC patrons like them. Look at how many people drop cash in the fare box...there's absolutely no reason for it...fare media is available absolutely everywhere, and there's the added incentive of making it cheaper...yet people still drop cash in the farebox in huge numbers. Why? Because people are quirky that way, and always will be...and the TTC knows all the little quirks, cause that's their business....they aren't bean-counters and analysts who pull abstract ideas out of their ass.
No, this will not illiminate any fare media...but just add another one...and one most TTC riders won't see any benefit from.
And choice riders aren't going to be attracted either...they fall into one of a few catagories....ones that actually have metropasses...ones that just keep a few tickets or tokens around "in case" they might make the odd trip, ones who prefer to just pay cash, and tourists/visitors, who aren't about to go get a Presto card.
The only useful purpose of these integrated fare cards is an integrated fare structure. And the only useful purpose of an integrated fare structure, is to encourage more ridership via more people transfering between various regional transit systems. And the only useful way to do that, is to offer some kind of incentive in the way of reduced fares. But is that what they are doing? Nope...it's still going to cost you the full fare to transfer to another transit system.
And who is it that needs to make all these connections between transit systems? Generally, it's the 905 municipal transit systems and GO....416 TTC residents are the least likely to need to transfer onto other systems....especially GO Transit.
And I'm also simply not inspired by the cool "techy" alure of these things...what is our obsession with all this anyway? Nothing works better than the incredibly low-tech fare box. They last forever, and maintenance consists of the occaisional wipe with a damp cloth.
Hey....I'm not against card readers and such...they can move things along when it's busy at the entrypoint. I just don't see them as the savior like many do.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=490958&page=2
Though otherwise - I think the best bet would be automating most ticket collecting. To keep them secure - they could allow an outside buissness ( coffee shop / convenience store ) to move in and be in charge of security for the whole building. They could provide discounted rent to sweeten the pot.
The TTC should also not be saddled with huge implementation costs for systems like PRESTO, which are 95% for the benefit of people who don't live here.
I have been on transit systems around the world. They all have quirks. Long waits between trains, carpeted cars... it's often amusing to pick up the local paper in other cities and see the same kinds of discussions that we're having in Toronto about local politics, public space and public services.
1. The expense and hassle of getting tickets and tokens made, distributing them around the system and collecting the cash, the forgery problem, token hoarding by riders and the TTC alike when a fare increase is on the way, the security issue involved in keeping cash in booths.
2. Fare evasion, transfer fraud. When your entry to the system is not dependent on waving something that may or may not be a valid transfer or dropping something that looks like it could be a token into a fare box, and access is obtained by either paying cash in view of another person or scanning/swiping a valid fare medium, the potential for losses is much smaller.
What we could have instead:
1. Cash fares, exact change on surface vehicles. Good for occasional users and visitors.
2. Simple paper tickets/passes with a magnetic stripe, good for a given number of trips.
3. A reloadable pass on which funds are stored at the user's discretion, encoded for regular, child, student or senior fare. NOT a pass that is good for exactly one calendar week/month only.
Sure, an automated system costs money to implement and operate, which is why the TTC has dragged its feet on this for so long. People wandering into bus bays off the street and cadging free rides aren't without expense either, nor those BS pass verification things (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeclark/4304621582/), nor challenging riders regarding their pass or transfer.
Out of a dozen or so turnstiles at St. Andrew Station, fewer than half accept Metropasses. The rest are token-only. Bizarre.
Hong Kong has it right, once the card is empty the turnstile takes the card.
Please, do something to save TTC. Smart card? Vending machine on every station? Security? Could somebody clean the streetcars? Do something, please. Tell the Ontario govt to give us back the budget that we deserve. Toronto is the economical capital of Canada. How could we let our city screwed? We used to have the budget but the stupid govt cut them all in the 90s!
Most of your stations are not friendly at all towards the disabled.
The entire transit system runs off one card - Octopus Card - and it's used on all forms of transit: subways, bus, streetcars and airport/suburban trains. It can also be used at shops like 7/11, McDonalds and almost all city wide franchised businesses. Not to mention taxis. You can top it up at corner stores and at stations and EVERYONE has one and is used almost in lieu of cash and debit cards and it just needs to be touched to be credited/debited. I hate HK yet this system is amazing and makes searching for change or having to break a $20 at a friggin' Coffee Time at 2am a thing of the past.
Spent a few years in London and they also have the "Oyster" card, a transit wide system that can be topped up almost everywhere. Both systems work so great and other than NYC, nothing in NA comes even close to what transit systems abroad have done. We need to look at these systems and leap frog our NA peers, not enough vision here I'm afraid.
NOTE: I love the TTC and the city and miss it dearly and reading of the mess Ford's making is troubling. As a temporary outside looking in, logic shows that LRT is the way to go and every study/expert shows this and was voted on. How has Toronto not stood up and forced this jackass responsible for delaying the city's transit and costing it Millions in his idiotic stunt.
Meanwhile on the TTC... show up to a station with a $5 bill, and good luck of getting on the train if there's no attendant on duty. Not sure why the machines at each station accept $10's and $20's but not $5's... Who designs such garbage?
And yes the stations do look like something out of Pyongyang, North Korea. I guess they compliment the borderline third world conditions above ground in most of the city though... all the decaying brick, bedbug, roach and mice infested buildings.
Don't break what works so well.
NOT.
http://fakeisthenewreal.org/subway/
Find the graphic showing all the transit lines that have some sort of card technology behind them to be very sad. It won't be until 2015 until Presto is fully implemented? Really? Why? Do they have 1 person hand building, painting and programming each Presto unit?
Pretty normal however that Toronto starts to catch up with the rest of the world, as the rest of the world looks to move on. Wake me up when you can purchase a monthly pass that lasts for 30 consecutive days, not a defined calendar month, in Toronto.