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Why it might make sense to license cyclists in Toronto

Posted by Guest Contributor / January 6, 2012

License Bike TorontoThere's been a lot of ink spilled the last couple of days as a result of the city's public works and infrastructure committee meeting on Wednesday. The topic? The possibility of the city introducing a regime to license cyclists. Yesterday, this site laid out five reasons why licensing cyclists in Toronto is a bad idea. Since this idea is essentially at the brainstorming stage, a a time at which it might be fair to say there's no such thing as a bad idea, I thought it was worth posing a counter-argument.

1. It costs too much
This is potentially true, but we can't know that without an actual proposal (or proposals) on which city staff can do a comprehensive study. What's the proposed fee? How many potential licensees are there? What level of enforcement is ideal? What level of staffing is needed to manage the process? Are there existing systems that can be leveraged to mitigate the cost? Meanwhile, while we can argue about the role of government in society, I think most of us can agree that helping keep its citizens safe is a reasonable use of public funds. If licensing can contribute to that, we're asking a lot to expect that it'd also be run at a profit.

2. It doesn't work
Toronto last eliminated their licensing regime for cyclists in 1956. 56 some odd years later, the fact that there were problems then is cause enough to not even consider it now? It's true that drivers break the rules, and the mere existence of a piece of paper wouldn't be enough to guarantee that a cyclist wouldn't do so. Any system of licensing would have to be paired with enforcement. In fact, enforcement ought to be happening now, but the police quite rightly know that issuing tickets is largely futile.

For one, there's no cumulative effect for receiving multiple tickets like there is for a driver, who can have their license suspended if they commit enough infractions to which demerit points are attached. It's a fair bet that the worst cyclists are serial offenders, just like the worst drivers. Also, while a cyclist who gets stopped by the police is required to identify themselves, there's no specific requirement to carry ID — what's to stop someone being issued a ticket today from giving a fake name and address? A licensing regime solves that problem.

3. There are too many complications
Yep, implementation could be complicated. Every jurisdiction requires drivers' licenses, which clearly wouldn't be the case here, so what do you do when a 905er crosses into the 416? Well, you don't get to jump on a TTC bus for free just because you've already paid when you got on the Viva first, do you? If Toronto requires a bike license, and you want to bike in Toronto, well, then you need to get a license. How do you handle Bixi? Problematic, sure — in that case, maybe you license the bikes and require the renters to carry ID, to help the enforcement issues. And licensing children is a non-starter, obviously, but putting an age cut-off (13? 16?) on this issue is better than some of the existing cycling rules governing sidewalks, which are based on the size of the bike's wheelbase, for example.

4. It discourages new riders
Well, the multiple-phase testing and licensing system for drivers has certainly scared off generations of teenagers from wanting to get behind the wheel of a car. Wait, what? That's right — it hasn't in the least. No, I'm not seriously equating the two situations. But cyclists don't have just cars, trucks, and motorcycles to worry about. The actions — sometimes illegal, often unpredictable — of their fellow riders can be pretty hazardous, too.

I'd be far more likely to want to hop on a bike if I had any faith that there was a minimum level of knowledge required of the other cyclists on the road, and some commitment to enforcement to get the bad riders out of everyone's way. And there's nothing that says that licensing needs to be either complex or expensive — I'd argue that it ought to be as simple as possible and only expensive enough to make sure people take it seriously. For example, since the rules of the road are the same, a reasonable starting point would be not requiring anyone with a drivers' license to be licensed separately for cycling, as long as they carry their drivers' license with them while cycling.

5. It doesn't educate cyclists
Requiring licensing, particularly if it's accompanied by some form of testing, can't help but result in a better-educated rider pool than we have today. And it should be paired with education, especially if that education can be happening when those riders are young and haven't yet developed bad habits. Sure, using the correct hand signals is already the law but, unless you have a drivers' license, you could quite happily hop on a bike and ride it for the rest of your life without ever being taught that — in fact, you could probably ride a good long time without ever seeing it, too.

Look, I'm not by any means suggesting that licensing is the silver bullet. This is a big, nasty problem and it's going to need attacking from all angles. The city needs more bike lanes, the existing bike lanes need to be kept in better repair, and they all need to be connected in a logical, orderly fashion that lets people get around both north-south and east-west. Parking by-laws need to be beefed up, particularly with regard to parking in bike lanes (some excellent progress was made in this regard on Wednesday).

Existing city bylaws dealing with bicycles on sidewalks need to be harmonized. Police need to be empowered and encouraged to enforce existing laws, whether city by-laws or the general rules of the road. Absent licensing, new by-laws are needed requiring cyclists to carry some form of legal ID. Both cyclists and drivers need to be better educated about both their rights and their responsibilities. And everyone needs to stop the battleground mentality — drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians all have a stake in this if we want to keep this city live-able.

In fact, I'm not even suggesting licensing is necessary — there are several less drastic measures that could make a real contribution to solving the problem, including those outlined above. However, dismissing licensing out of hand, without even having a reasonable, informed discussion about it, would be a massive mistake. And it's a mistake that all too many people seem all too willing to make.

Guest contribution from Sean Boulton

Photo by Sam Javanrouh

Discussion

53 Comments

Hub / January 6, 2012 at 02:18 pm
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For the enforcement, let's put it the easy way. In case of traffic by-law violation (red light, wrong way, riding on the sidewalk, etc), the officer impound the bike until the fine is paid.

The license is the bike. Want your bike back? Pay the fine.

And if they want, the can cross check with the DL database an apply the penalty on there to. After all, bike are subject to the same traffic rules as motor vehicles, aren't they?
Alex / January 6, 2012 at 02:26 pm
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I don't bicycle in the city (or for enjoyment, or at all really), but licensing is so ridiculous. In a previous article about this (forgot the title, sorry) they cited that the number of bicycle incidents with people getting hurt was tiny, while the number of car accidents with people getting hurt was in the thousands. Why waste money on this when there are so many more important things to spend it on? I say we invest in a Futurama style mail tube system to move people around the city! I think it is more likely that is built before Sheppard subway or more bike lanes, with the current council we have.
W. K. Lis / January 6, 2012 at 02:27 pm
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The city got rid of the vehicle registration fees on motor vehicles because they say it is unfair to drivers. Yet they want to put something similar on bicycles. Where's the logic in that?

School boards should be teaching courses on road laws and rules to students, and they must past a test. If there is an adult who breaks a road law on a bicycle, have them sit in a classroom (front row) and get a refresher class with the young students. Maybe embarrassment might help.
JS replying to a comment from Hub / January 6, 2012 at 02:27 pm
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I like what Hub is saying, great idea! Cops will need a few pickup trucks on their fleet to handle all the bike confiscations though.
George Bell / January 6, 2012 at 02:33 pm
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I'd look at doing something voluntary initially, and province wide - like the recreational boating license was for a long time. It could be all administered and tested online as well. Perhaps just keep it voluntary and make the fines double if you don't have a license...there are other things that could be done to make it simpler (include it as part of all new driver licenses so it just becomes an automatic thing for kids who get a driver license)...maybe even just have a small test for everyone the first time they renew their drivers license so that within 5 years every driver also has a bike license...then you just need to license non-drivers...perhaps it could even be part of ontario's phys-ed program.
am / January 6, 2012 at 02:36 pm
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This is the most asinine proposal in a long time.
It's costly, unenforceable and downright stupid.
Cars can kill easily. While I'm not saying cycling accidents (not involving cars) do not happen, I am having a hard time imagining they are often fatal or even causing severe injuries.
As always, bureaucrats think they can rid the world of risks.
This is either the brainchild of a retard or another scheme to squeeze more money out of city residents.
Let's not forget that this would hardly incentivize people to start biking instead of driving.
The amount of money that would be spent on this program would be way more effective if used to increase safety in other areas, such as vehicular traffic, that is way more lethal than bicycles.
JL / January 6, 2012 at 02:38 pm
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"This is a big, nasty problem..."

Is it, though?
Chris / January 6, 2012 at 02:47 pm
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Enforcement is a joke and would only make things worse for everybody on the road. I said the same thing when the hands free phone law came about. It only makes people realize that the police can't lurk behind every corner and makes you wonder what else you can get away with. That's why they have blitzes, to remind you not to do things when they can't be bothered the rest of the year. If they could be everywhere then, for instance, you wouldn't see speeding cars or idiots riding on the sidewalk when there are bike lanes.
Mark / January 6, 2012 at 02:48 pm
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It is always an unnecessary and rediculous idea when it might affect you cyclists isn't it?
ife / January 6, 2012 at 03:04 pm
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What a great idea, to require a license to ride through a park or to take a trip to the corner store.
Weez / January 6, 2012 at 03:06 pm
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Will "Learner's Permit" or some sort of "Graduated Licensing" be issued for little kids that still have training wheels?

What will the licensing regulations be on tricycles and unicycles?

The suggestion that bicycles be licensed is asinine.
michael / January 6, 2012 at 03:07 pm
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The Only reason for the city to do this is to generate more revenue from licensing - but to implement, run and enforce it the costs will be much more than the revenue collected from licensing - i ride a bike downtown maybe 4 times a year as i live within walking distance of work and play - I would not consider myself a Cyclist and i also think it is unnecessary and rediculous
Mary / January 6, 2012 at 03:07 pm
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This is similar to what happened in Ottawa a few years ago when they banned people from public parks after 11 p.m. This was to keep people (likely teenagers) from partying in parks and causing a disturbance. The things is - there were already laws to cover that. Loitering, underage drinking, disturbing the peace, etc.

Same applies here. There are already the laws available to curb bad behaviour ilke riding on sidewalks, not stopping at stop signs, wrong way on a one way. Just enforce those. No need for licensing.
Jen / January 6, 2012 at 03:08 pm
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Why not simply require cyclists to carry ID, and enforce the rules we already have?
James / January 6, 2012 at 03:08 pm
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I don't get it. What is this supposed to achieve, other than adding an unnecessary fee on riding a bicycle?

Cyclists are bound by the same rules of the road that cars are, so if there's any problem with cyclists breaking laws, it's that police aren't reinforcing them.

How is adding a test and a fee supposed to help that?
Toby Buckets / January 6, 2012 at 03:14 pm
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Nothing more than a cash grab from the city's poorest people.
Allegra / January 6, 2012 at 03:14 pm
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"Well, the multiple-phase testing and licensing system for drivers has certainly scared off generations of teenagers from wanting to get behind the wheel of a car. Wait, what? That's right — it hasn't in the least."

Actually, that's untrue for a LOT of Toronto teens. Very few of my classmates back in high school went out for their G1, and most that have them now did so just before their 19th birthday.

It's also not comparable because no nearby municipalities have such a licence. You need a government-issued licence to drive almost everywhere in the world, and most laws are comparable (stay withing the speed limit, stop where you're supposed to, don't drive drunk). That's why tourists can rent cars using foreign licences. To need one only for Toronto is ludicrous if you cycle to work from Markham.

There is also a minimum age limit for driving - 16 years old, and the graduated system ensures that no one can have a full G until they are almost 19. As there is no age limit on cycling (remember training wheels?) Are you really going to make a five year old kid get a licence to ride his bike on the boardwalk with his family?

In addition to the bureaucratic reasons mentioned in the first article, that should be enough to dismiss this as yet another silly idea worth dismissing.
Becca / January 6, 2012 at 03:15 pm
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The debate about cycling in this city is embarrassing and anachronistic. Everyone in this city should be ashamed that this is still actively under discussion.

City roads are for mixed vehicle usage. Cars; buses; bikes. There is no "rampant unsafe cyclist problem". There just simply is no data to support these anecdotal stories. There are a few unsafe cyclists. BY FAR the most danger is posed by cars. Data supports this. The lost lives prove it.

There is a city with a strong anti-cycling culture, and if we could pull our heads out of our asses (hint - that's it right there between your car seat and your steering wheel!) then we could have the kind of dialogue that every other city on Earth is having: how to encourage and support more cycling in our urban centre.

BICYCLE LICENSES??? You've got to be f'ing kidding me. What an embarrassment.
Soren / January 6, 2012 at 03:16 pm
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We must start with the worst offenders first, children. They feel perfectly entitled to riding on sidewalks instead of the road, don't signal and don't stop at stop signs. License and fine the urban terrorists.
Shane / January 6, 2012 at 03:16 pm
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Why not just go ahead and liscense pedestrians as well? Think of all the shoving and tripping that can occur on a crowded sidewalk, and all those sprained ankles and injuries that can occur, especially if one is in heels, never mind pedestrains being hit by cars when they are not paying attention crossing the street or something. A liscense for a bike is a joke and merely one more step for the government requiring us to have every aspect of our lives monitored and liscensed. We spend enough of our time being filmed everywhere..what a joke,but a fantastic money grab. Ford would love this.
JeffMc / January 6, 2012 at 03:17 pm
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let's see, an average new car is about $25k, and let's say an average new bike is $500. That's a factor of 50. If bikes require licenses, shouldn't the cost be proportional to the cost of a car license? In Toronto that's $74 a year. That means a bike license should be $1.48, but let's round up to $1.50 just for kicks. How will the city offset the cost of a bike licensing program at $1.50 per license? I saw an estimate of $1 million a year to run such a program, which would mean we would have to license 666,666 bikes just to break even.

Good luck.
Cassi replying to a comment from JS / January 6, 2012 at 03:21 pm
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What if you want to dispute the charge and you're left without a method of transportation for however many weeks it takes to get into court? I can see taking a bicycle away for impaired driving, but for not stopping at a stop sign I think it would be unbelievably harsh.
Brad / January 6, 2012 at 03:24 pm
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I like the underlying point of this article which is "why make negative assumptions about something that doesn't exist".

I'd be 100% behind every adult in Toronto over the age of, say, 16 having to pass a free on-line test every five years on even the most basic hand signals. At least then when I get infuriated with my fellow cyclists in my neighborhood who don't seem to have the foggiest interest in letting anyone else on the road know what they're doing - I'll know it's through intentional asshattery and not ignorance.
rick mcginnis / January 6, 2012 at 03:31 pm
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Howzabout we just enforce the laws on the books already, like the one prohibiting riding bikes on sidewalks? Just start with the adults over 20 I have to dodge with my kids all the time - that would be nice.
Macerin / January 6, 2012 at 04:11 pm
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I would like to add as a driver i have had many many problems with cyclists not following the laws in place, this needs to be delt with cuz i don't want to have to live with harming another person because of careless riding. Cyclists need to think of others and understand cars can kill.
reality / January 6, 2012 at 04:15 pm
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Lol so we are gonna have our 70 dollar an hour police enforcing this??? Or are they gonna be by law people???? good luck getting me to stop with one of those guys trying to give me a ticket lol!
Macerin / January 6, 2012 at 04:19 pm
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Remember your opinion is important but you need to read the entire article.
Mandy / January 6, 2012 at 04:43 pm
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bullshit article quite frankly
Homebody / January 6, 2012 at 04:48 pm
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Here, here ! Those who break the law whether they are on bikes or in cars should be held accountable. And for the record, I am a cyclist.
Bicycle! / January 6, 2012 at 04:49 pm
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I took the Canadian Cycling Association's CAN-BIKE course, which tests you and gives you a certification in the end.

Despite the arguments against it, I can see a lot of value in cyclists learning the basics of road safety and defensive biking.
Andrew / January 6, 2012 at 04:57 pm
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I already have a full driver's and motorcyclist's licence and look forward to being the first cyclist charged with "cycling without a license" when I ride my beater to 7-11 for a slurpee.

How moronic is this city getting, wasting time and resources even discussing this issue.

Casey / January 6, 2012 at 05:19 pm
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I think the main problem with licensing cyclists would be that without a substantial improvement to the cycling infrastructure, which is basically non-existant, many cyclists would stop cycling, due to their fines, or bikes being impounded. Which would lead to an increased amount of people driving, or riding the ttc or the like. Which will result in new problems, which are not in fact solutions to the real problem, people aren't obeying cycling laws, because they don't have an effective means for doing so.
Antony / January 6, 2012 at 05:40 pm
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To the tune of Monty Python's "Spam" song: Spite spite spite spite, Spite spite spite spite, Lovely spite, wonderful spite!
steve replying to a comment from Casey / January 6, 2012 at 05:47 pm
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I believe this is why those that support licensing is hoping will happen. There is some weird logic that goes on here, if you keep only motor vehicles on the road and all else off, congestion will disappear.
AK / January 6, 2012 at 05:55 pm
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Licensed or not, cyclists need to be educated before hitting the road. The number of cyclists that I've seen abusing traffic laws on the road (or the sidewalk!) is appalling to me. I've seen so many near-misses it's scary and not safe for anyone. Good article-- I don't think this topic should be dismissed yet.
Antony / January 6, 2012 at 05:56 pm
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Exactly Steve. Get everyone off their bikes and it will look like this photo, in reverse: http://tampabayonline.net/bguard/home.htm
steve replying to a comment from Antony / January 6, 2012 at 06:39 pm
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Very interesting article, thanks for pointing it out
Confused / January 6, 2012 at 07:49 pm
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I wish Blog TO would make up their mind in the route they're giong.. they've also published an article "5 reasons why licensing cyclists in Toronto is a bad idea"
Shelly / January 6, 2012 at 08:32 pm
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I ride the 511 Bathurst Streetcar to work everyday and there are always at least 2 or 3 cars that do not stop and drive straight through the streetcar when the street car stops, nearly hitting the people trying to get on or off the street car safely. And these are CARS with LICENSES and are supposed to be educated about road safety and laws. If we cannot make drivers accountable for breaking the law, what makes you think it would work for cyclists.
Derek replying to a comment from Confused / January 6, 2012 at 10:42 pm
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Do you know what a rebuttal is? One of our readers took objection to our post about why bike licensing is a bad idea, and we invited him to write an article that explained why he thought it might work. We like dialogue over here.
Joe / January 6, 2012 at 10:59 pm
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This bike licensing thing is getting old. Every couple of years some car-loving politicians propose it to make some noise, the city spends millions of dollars studying it and the conclusion is always the same. It's not practical, needed, or cost-effective.
Shawn / January 6, 2012 at 11:19 pm
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Licensing is too hard. Just ramp up enforcement of the idiots who blast past open streetcar doors & redlights and treat sidewalks like racetracks. This will increase revenue, make the streets and sidewalks safer, and stop giving cyclists a bad name.
electric / January 6, 2012 at 11:53 pm
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Mayor F* want's Toronto to have it's own version of the long gun registry.
mike / January 7, 2012 at 08:45 am
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Great article Sean, I'm glad someone addressed blogTO's pathetic and fallacious list.
Moi / January 7, 2012 at 12:10 pm
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Strange, when I was growing up, we had to get a license plate on our bikes. It was so the bike was registered and if you didn't have one, you would get a ticket (just like a car)

It was also so that they could keep track of a bicycle's 'make and model' for those who had a bike STOLEN!

I think it is a great idea!!!!
electric / January 7, 2012 at 03:51 pm
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LOL @ "MOI"

Have you ever had your bike stolen in Toronto? Tried to get the police off their duffs out looking for it? Thought so. Plates aren't going to fix that.

BTW - If you take the time to register the serial #(a service already provided) you might get lucky when another private citizen rats out a thief.

Plates... lol.
John Spragge / January 7, 2012 at 04:21 pm
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How many times do we have to explain the principle: basic human powered mobility is a right. Not a privilege. Not something granted by gracious governments to appropriately docile citizens. A right. A right held by idiots and jerks as well as by paragons of human virtue. And as a right, the state cannot make it the subject of a license. Period. So let's stop wasting time making craven arguments about why we should descend even farther towards a "papers please!" society in the name of security for all and correct hand signals.
Dean / January 7, 2012 at 07:35 pm
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So the "small government" mayor is thinking about adding to a "already bloated" bureaucracy?

He's such a ROFO.
the lemur replying to a comment from electric / January 8, 2012 at 01:06 am
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Licensing bikes will probably also result in bike plates being stolen.
Mark replying to a comment from Derek / January 8, 2012 at 02:34 am
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Derek that is a lie and you know it. Most pro-Rob Ford comments are deleted or mysteriously disappear. You don't want dialogue on this site, you want agreement with your viewpoint and little else.
Derek replying to a comment from Mark / January 8, 2012 at 12:53 pm
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If your accusation was true, Mark, we would have banned your IP address ages ago. We only remove comments from this site that violate our comment policy. There's no conspiracy theory against Rob Ford supporters here (ever noticed there are many of them who comment on this site?). One thing worthy of note, however, is that there does seem to be a greater degree of prejudice and vitriol that comes from some of our more staunch right wing commenters, and that type of behaviour can lead to comment moderation. In other words, keep it clean, fair and productive, and your comments will always remain on the site – regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum.
Derek replying to a comment from Mark / January 8, 2012 at 12:53 pm
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http://www.blogto.com/commentpolicy/
borb / January 8, 2012 at 02:37 pm
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what is needed is for the city hall turd who is in charge of bike infrastructure ( i think he's called Eagen or something) to do his job. like maybe build, like, one bike lane this year. ya, that would be nice.
also maybe an education system to teach the low class people to not ride on the sidewalk on f*ing bloor street.

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