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Opposition grows against Minto Freed condo project

Posted by Emma Marcon / October 13, 2011

Bathurst Front Minto FreedLast night a frustrated group of about a hundred residents of the Wellington and Niagara neighbourhoods met with city councillor Adam Vaughan and two representatives from development company Minto Freed to discuss the proposal of a massive high-rise condominium complex in the area. The proposed building, at the corner of Bathurst and Niagara, will reach 81 metres in height and add an estimated 1,000 new vehicles to an area already battling serious traffic problems. Residents are concerned about this influx in traffic as well as the impact the building will have on the neighbourhood's historic character.

If I had to pinpoint the exact moment that Minto Freed's proposal fell apart, I would have to choose the moment where an older gentleman, to gales of laughter and applause, stated bluntly "Just because it's made of bricks doesn't mean it's Victorian."

From that point on, the meeting got away from Minto Freed's representatives, who spent the duration of the two-and-a-half hour session awkwardly dodging questions from irate residents and an increasingly frustrated Vaughan. Had Minto Freed accounted for delivery truck traffic to and from the planned Whole Foods on ground level? No. Had they considered potential bus loading zones for schoolchildren in the building? No. Had they realized that several units on the first fifteen floors of the proposed building wouldn't actually receive any sunlight? Yes, apparently, but that was deemed inconsequential.

Not surprisingly, this did nothing to endear Minto Freed to the residents in attendance, who remained unanimously opposed. Tempers began to flare as the meeting dragged on past the scheduled 9 p.m. end time. By the time Minto Freed announced that construction on the building would take approximately six years, people actually began to heckle. City Planner Sarah Phipps diplomatically ended the proceedings by saying that further meetings would have to be held.

Minto Freed TorontoThe future of the proposal remains uncertain. Vaughan is now on record as wanting Minto Freed to withdraw their rezoning application, but acknowledged the company's legal right to pursue the plan further. As for the residents, they remain concerned that if the plan is approved by city council, it will set a precedent for other monolithic developments in the neighbourhood.

Has Toronto's condo boom finally gone too far? As these massive developments creep further and further north of Front Street, what impact will they have on the historic neighbourhoods and their unique aesthetic characteristics? Why does "regeneration" increasingly seem to mean "gentrification?" Most importantly, what effect will a mass influx of upper-middle class, car owning condo dwellers have on these mixed-income areas? And why must attracting them come at the expense of the residents who have to live with the consequences?

More info on the opposition to this project can be found at Stop Minto Freed Development.

Photo by charmgirl13 on Flickr

Discussion

22 Comments

michelle / October 13, 2011 at 02:09 pm
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The biggest problem is transit, or rather lack thereof. You can't blame individuals for driving cars when there is insufficient public transit to replace them -- it is rather more complicated than simply calling them "upper middle class car owners". Cities around the world support much higher residential patterns than are the norm in Toronto, and the Minto Freed project is not beyond those densities. The problem is that you can only support those densities with adequate public transit.

There has been a spectacular lack of planning on the part of the City (including during the pre-Ford era that Vaughan champions) in prefacing intensive residential development with the 'bones' of a good transit system.
gary Thomas / October 13, 2011 at 02:40 pm
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I was at the meeting and there are a couple of points the article overlooks. The immediate Wellington St area is already a fairly narrow demographic, so the addition of more units isn't going to impact the economic make up to a great degree. the area's density has increased in recent years and I think is the better for it. It is currently struggling to accommodate the increase in traffic already in the neighbourhood. This new building proposes a dramatic jump in size and density. The real danger is to business in the area. It is a hub for media and high tech companies, all of which will be directly threatened by this project. The Globe and Mail lands are coming up for redevelopment and a decision in favour of the current Minto proposal will signal the death the street. It will become a windswept back alley. The odd dry cleaner and nail salon doesn't replace the hundreds of high skilled high paying jobs that will be displaced by this intensification. All these new condo dwellers actually have to work somewhere. if they can work in the area they won't need their cars.
Nick / October 13, 2011 at 03:07 pm
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This, as with most recent condo developments, is a mega-developer cash-grab which intends to make its quick buck off the current state of Toronto's housing market before it changes. This has nothing to do with providing housing to Torontonians, or strengthening a neighbourhood, or intensifying density, or building a city responsibly. This proposal is greed made corporeal.

No single institution should have the power to build these entire-block single-use monoliths, and Toronto and its people *will* suffer for them in the years to come.

The reality is that major developers are larger and more powerful than any one level of government right now. They have been growing and conglomerating and consolidating faster than any other human enterprise, and our representatives have seemingly lost the ability to rein them in in any meaningful way. This is not how cities should be built.

Sorry, I'm on cold meds. But I'm still right.
Jeff / October 13, 2011 at 04:10 pm
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NIMBYS ATTACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Not in my back yard, no sir!

Jess / October 13, 2011 at 04:45 pm
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This neighbourhood is already toast from too much gentrification. It used to be an awesome place to go out and dance to good djs that played more than just top 40. Now its residents fight every single alcohol permit even if it's for a sushi restaurant and the clubs and bars have become goverment buildings and high end retail. No thanks.
J / October 13, 2011 at 05:01 pm
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While it is giant - the only real reason it's getting any attention is because it's ruffling a lot of rich people's feathers. All sorts of huge developments out of scale with their surroundings happen every day in this city (read: distillery district). This will fit in just fine. And beyond that, I'm sure the people who move into this building will likely one day get their knickers in a knot when someone decides to build a condo on the West side of Bathurst.
KP replying to a comment from michelle / October 13, 2011 at 05:25 pm
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Totally agree. Gentrification happens... The city needs to just deal with it and move on. This myth that the upper middle class is taking over has to stop. They need a place to live too.
J replying to a comment from michelle / October 13, 2011 at 05:51 pm
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This project is served by two street car lines - Bathurst and King, and is easily walkable to the Spadina line. If any area calls for density this is it.
O.K. / October 13, 2011 at 05:54 pm
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UMMMMMMMMMM. Canadian banks WERE giving taxpayer money! Stop being silly. Just because Peter or Lloyd didn't tell you this does not mean it didn't happen. Don't forget about us taxpayers having the backing of CMHC Trillion dollar home insurance portfolio. I don't know if I can post links here but go do your own research the information is out there.
O.K. / October 13, 2011 at 05:54 pm
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Yikes wrong story. BlogTO staff fix it up is possible. Thanks.
ZAPPA / October 13, 2011 at 06:16 pm
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...BUT PLEEEASE I HAVE 350K TO BUY A KITCHEN & BATHROOM CRAZY BOX....LET ME BUY IT PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
gary Thomas / October 13, 2011 at 06:28 pm
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Talk about NIMBYS. All these people who aren't in the neighbourhood are big fans of bulldozing it. Open a Starbucks on Queen street and suddenly the bricks are flying. People in the neighbourhood want development. People need to work here too.
infernalmachine replying to a comment from Nick / October 13, 2011 at 06:58 pm
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nick - 100000000% agree. most excellent analysis. it's not NIMBYism in my opinion - i doubt anyone is opposed to more housing. people don't like more housing priced out of reach of 90% of torontonians, built to an aesthetically displeasing, dare i say soul-sucking architectural plan, with no thought for mixed-use, with no thought for street-level interaction...

yeuch.
jameson / October 13, 2011 at 07:10 pm
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NIMBYism or not, looking at the block rendering, that sure does look awful.

Where's the stepback? Podium? Peak? Public realm? Sidewalk?

But alas, Toronto has set the precedent long ago that to approve garbage. Planning and approvals is a negotiation, I'm sure this is just the beginning.
gadfly / October 13, 2011 at 09:10 pm
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The city won't stop until lower Bathurst is plagued just like lower Spadina. There is no solution. There is no planning. Look at the 2-51 storey towers planned for Alexander/Yonge. Yikes. They will make the Morano Towers on Bay St., only a block away, look like lego construction.
The rental tower at 545 Sherbourne has re-applied to now be 42 floors. Thirty eight wasn't enough. That's on top of the 5 towers planned for Sherbourne/Bloor with the shortest one being 38 floors!
I am tired of sounding like a broken record, but we are getting New York style density without their infrastructure! Stand at Richmond/Spadina around 5 pm and see what is in store for lower Bathurst.
It doesn't matter if Niagara/Bathurst is served by 10 streetcar lines, if those streetcars are stuck in traffic, too! How many thousand units are going up on Ft. York Blvd? How many are still slated for Bremner?
At every condo meeting we have, parking and traffic are on the agenda. It's getting tired. I'm just glad I only work in the area and don't own there.
jibbly / October 14, 2011 at 09:52 am
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I don't see how this edifice could have much more of an "impact" on the history of this neighborhood than the stark, box-like structures they tore down here did.
I think that the density issues need to be looked at more closely, but don't go preaching about aesthetics of a neighborhood "after" without a consideration of what they were "before".
Sean / October 14, 2011 at 10:09 am
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Density is necessary. Even it means "they" will move in next to "us".
Local / October 14, 2011 at 11:24 am
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Oh, the "Whole Foods" Freed boondoggle. We were told that story years ago -- the Whole Food restaurant to be at the bottom of the Thompson hotel actually became a 24 hour restaurant/bar that pulls in all the nightclubbers from King, (as well as a large restaurant with a noisy patio open till midnight.) And the rooftop on the Thompson, at first a private club for 'residents only' is a rooftop nightclub. And the entertainment space (for weddings/conventions etc) in the basement has become, guess what, a nightclub running events 4 or 5 nights a week. This is in addition to the street level lounge. And the other massive Freed projects coming online (2 or 3) all also have rooftop nightclubs. They also have street level retail-- fine-- but which will also be future bars/nightclubs. Even the Freed building on Portland is now getting a bar/lounge in it's ground level space (formally a real estate office/supposed to have been a gallery.) So residents at the Front St. project can expect more nightclubs. Come walk around the residential streets (Portland, Stewart, Wellington, etc) on a Thurs/Fri/Sat night and see what the locals are talking about. (Walk--unless you want to be in a traffic jam.) Part of the problem with these Freed projects is that they are not about building community--most of the rooms are studios (meaning no family-sized units), rented to people who are in the area temporarily.

And why does the city have height/setback restrictions & rules, if they are never followed?
Alex / October 14, 2011 at 12:30 pm
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We need infrastructure to support this stuff for sure, like a huge condo tax on building them so that when you pool all that money together you can build a new subway line to help handle the increased density. Or put it into investments that pay enough dividends or interest every year to pay for more buses on the road or something.

Toronto probably does need all these condos though, tons of people want to live in Toronto, urbanization is increasing all over the world. Cities need to grow.
Nick replying to a comment from infernalmachine / October 14, 2011 at 02:07 pm
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The frightening thing is we agree with gadfly on this one.
Marta / October 17, 2011 at 10:49 pm
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I am speechless
Mike / November 7, 2011 at 08:35 pm
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To be perfectly honest, I'm just a little bummed if this is cancelled we won't get a Whole Foods. I know that is a mean trick of the developers..."let us build another absurdly massive condo in your area, but, we'll give you a premium grocery store". I live in condoville at Bathurst and Queens Quay, so I feel your pain but at the same time, the entire area is massive starved for close by grocery stores.

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