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Does Toronto have any attractions locals don't know of?

Posted by Derek Flack / January 18, 2011

Toronto AttractionsI spotted a similar query to the one above in relation to NYC a few days ago, and immediately started to think about it in a Toronto context. But, to be honest, it's not that easy to come up with a long list of possibilities. Perhaps it's because I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I generally assume that the majority of places in Toronto that could rightly be termed "attractions" are already familiar to local residents.

But assuming that it's fair to be a little loose with the term in question -- isn't an attraction by definition already popular? -- it'd be interesting to suggest a few places that should be more popular destinations for locals (and perhaps even tourists) but which, for whatever reason, just haven't caught on. I'm thinking here of anything from lesser-known museums and parks to great views of the city (rather than, say, entire neighbourhoods, restaurants or retail areas). I can think of a few places that might fit this description -- the lower Don recreational trail, the view of the skyline from Polson Street, Wychwood Park, and maybe even those seemingly stupid double decker tourist buses that, despite the predictable commentary from the guide, offer a fantastic opportunity to photograph the city from an elevated vantage point.

While certainly known to some degree, all of these places/trips tend to be under-visited or just under-appreciated. Do you have similar or perhaps better suggestions? Depending on the response, I might be able to put together alternative list of places to explore.

Photo by Jose Miguel Navarrete in the blogTO Flickr pool.

Discussion

61 Comments

Greg / January 18, 2011 at 10:12 am
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I'm not sure about those buses (they always spew out nasty fumes too), but I would add the Island to a list like this. Yeah everyone thinks they know about it, but hardly anyone ever goes. Which is both good and bad. Overcrowding is a bummer, but it's the coolest place in the summer. Shit, that rhymes.
Sara / January 18, 2011 at 10:19 am
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Leslie Street Spit (Tommy Thompson Park).
Kelly / January 18, 2011 at 10:21 am
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While they are all attractions we know of, The CITY PASS gets you into the CN Tower, The ROM, Casa Loma, Science Centre and the Zoo for $60 and is good for a 9 days. Plan it right, and you can play tourist in your own town for two weekends in a row for a fraction of what individual entries cost. http://www.citypass.com/toronto
mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 10:31 am
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I'm not sure if it's still around (or still accessible to the public) but when I was young and killing time on March Break, there was a Museum of Medical History somewhere in UofT. They had all types of wild old artifacts like blood letting bowls and bone saws. It was horrifically awesome for a young kid like myself.

I think it was near St.Andrews Station, but that doesn't really narrow it down.

qwerty replying to a comment from Greg / January 18, 2011 at 10:33 am
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If you don't like crowds, perhaps the summer is the worst time to go to the island.
Lee / January 18, 2011 at 10:35 am
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410 richmond st; high park's colborne lodge; the necropolis in riverdale - the church hosts performances during the arts festival; brickworks; humber bay butterfly meadow - gorgeous in summer and fall; the island - especially the funky houses on ward, and the lighthouse at gibraltar point, and the school-converted-into-artists' studios nearby; leslie spit and the lighthouse...
mike in parkdale replying to a comment from qwerty / January 18, 2011 at 10:37 am
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"If you don't like crowds, perhaps the summer is the worst time to go to the island."

the islands are a lot bigger than most people think, and there's a few hidden away spots that never really see a big crowd. Sure Chelsea Beach is always going to be backed, and Hanlon's Beach too, but there's lots of hidden gems.

and no, I'm never giving up the location of my 'secret beach'.
qwerty replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 10:45 am
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I know that. I guess I was talking about the ferry docks. One day during the summer, I saw massive crowds and lines for tickets that went around the block. Sometimes the ferry ride is the best part but not great when over crowded.

Your 'secret beach' is the clothing-optional beach ain't it? haha
mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 10:52 am
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haha... no.... my 'secret beach' isn't clothing optional.

BUT I suppose one could go clothing optional and not be seen if they really wanted to. We've even done beach fires (with buckets of water and sand for safety) during the afternoon and no one even noticed. Just watch out for fire ants! I think the entire Island is one big anthill.

There's also a 'secret ferry' that will let you avoid all the hassles of the main ferry docks too. Technically it's for the Toronto Island Marina, but it's city owned and they will take cash fares (provided there is still space after the marina members are all on board - and there's always space)
Andy / January 18, 2011 at 10:54 am
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Better question, what is Toronto's "Times Square"? The place where everyone from out of town has to see that no locals ever end up going to. CN Tower is the front runner, followed closely by Niagara Falls.
Elizabeth replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 10:56 am
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Surely you're referring to Snake Island, the best place to spend a night under the stars and the skyline.
zxc replying to a comment from Andy / January 18, 2011 at 11:05 am
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If the CN Tower was free, I'd go all the time.
mike in parkdale replying to a comment from Elizabeth / January 18, 2011 at 11:06 am
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Nope, not Snake Island. And don't call me Shirley.


(okay, I'll give it up, it's near Gibraltar Point Beach, which is rarely listed on the maps. If you head west from there, you'll find a very private beach, behind an overgrown baseball diamond - FUN! )
steve-o / January 18, 2011 at 11:26 am
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Shirley, there's a secret fairy?
mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 11:33 am
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^ lolz. I walked right into that one. Well played
Natali / January 18, 2011 at 11:39 am
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Hey thanks Mike from Parkdale! I'll be sure to check it out. (Just me of course, not gonna host a tour group.)

My suggestion for hidden gem of attraction is Markham. Yes, thats right, not exactly Toronto, but 20 minutes will take you to Historic Unionville, strawberry farms, Markham Museum, Varley Art Gallery.

Oh and let us not forget the AGO, The ROM, The Distillery District, The Bata Shoe Museum, and the Power Plant at Harbourfront for the Art Buff.
Carthy / January 18, 2011 at 11:45 am
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The Guild Sculpture Garden; Elgin and Wintergarden Theatre; Osgoode Hall (gates and gardens are nice and obvious but inside they offer tours and the dining room is old school fab); Toronto Irish Famine Memorial; the Music Garden; St. Anne's Anglican Church Group of Seven murals.
Alison / January 18, 2011 at 11:48 am
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What about Enoch Turner Schoolhouse? It's tucked away behind Little Trinity Anglican Church on King Street East, and easily missed. It's the oldest school building in Toronto (1848).
mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 11:50 am
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Agreed with Natali - the old 'Markham Village' has some great spots. The 'old timey town' behind the museum is pretty interesting.

that reminds me of another one!!

There's a 'Railway Museum' in Milton that has a number of antique and retired TTC streetcars, subways and trains.

let me google it - hcry.org
Stra / January 18, 2011 at 12:02 pm
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well I'll let the cat out of the bag, but I'll preface my little secret first (perhaps it's not much of a secret, but there's always lots o' room) by saying Toronto is a bit of a bore, and that's why locals know everything about this city for the most part - there's a nice little deck, vantage point right off the lake (best view to be had of the lake) with cheap beer at the Legion on the Lakeshore by Dowling. Take your hats off though people. Outside of that, East Gerrard ("little India") might qualify. How 'bout the park east of and across from Billy Bishop airport behind the Canada Malting Co.? Yes? No? Nice area to cool down in the summer and read a book away from everyone anyway.
Ryan L. replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 12:51 pm
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The Ferry to Ward's Island is often much less busy than the Centre Island one. It's not even that much further of a walk to go to the Amusement park (and it's a pleasant walk at that). You still have to deal with crowds at the dock (Toronto Side), but the ferry itself is barely at half capacity at the busiest of times and there is often little or no lineup at the Ward's Island end.
Rena / January 18, 2011 at 01:13 pm
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The CBC Museum! It's free and has lots of cool stuff from Canadian television's history. Including the Mr. Dressup Tickle Trunk.

Actually, when I was a kid we used to go to tapings at CBC- they're also free if you phone ahead and request tickets. We used to go to Air Farce but you can go to Strombo's show or a whole bunch of other things like that. Definitely cool if you're bored or have never seen a TV studio before.
subversible / January 18, 2011 at 01:50 pm
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The evensong choir at St. Thomas Anglican Church on Huron St. has a worldwide podcast following and tour internationally but are fairly unknown here in the T-dot. Probably more smoke and Jesus than many could handle, but the music is pretty stunning.
Greg / January 18, 2011 at 02:01 pm
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Brick is garbage beer.
Samantha / January 18, 2011 at 02:25 pm
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There's stuff a tad up north too.

The Art Battle's next event will be at the Varley Art Gallery in markham, and Paintlounge will be there.

While you're there, might as well visit Paintlounge ... a cafe with an artistic twist. Visit Bev + I, grab a drink, and have fun painting on canvases!

www.paintlounge.ca
fred / January 18, 2011 at 02:41 pm
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island ferry trick: Buy a strip of 10 tickets in advance from the booth (buy these off days or off season). They don't expire. Share with friends or save for the days to skip the lines and just go in at the front
Nerves / January 18, 2011 at 02:52 pm
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I was a commentator on one of those terrible double deckers for 5 summers throughout university. I always tried to get customers to go to less-visited locations. Whether pushing a game of baseball in Christie Pitts, the beach, sending a couple on a walk out to parkdale along queen west or putting people on a streetcar for a saturday afternoon in little India, I always did what I could to get people out of the Exhibition/ distillery/ casa loma triangle. You'd be surprised how resistant people are from travelling off the beaten path, most tourists want to do the 'standard stuff', which is a real shame, because most of toronto's actual attractions are a real bore.
Andrea / January 18, 2011 at 02:55 pm
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These are all great answers.

There's a little historical house at Bathurst and Davenport that I frequently walk past but have never been inside of. They give tours. I once glanced inside when it was open. Google gives me this...

http://www.torontohistoricalassociation.org/index.php?option=com_content&;task=view&id=58

...which states that the house is Canada's oldest toll house, built in 1835.

I didn't know about it until I moved to the neighbourhood and even then I walked past it a bunch of times before taking a closer look. I suspect that few Torontonians know about it, so it would be a good subject for Derek's follow up.

As for Andy's request for "The place where everyone from out of town has to see that no locals ever end up going to.", I wonder if Casa Loma is on that list - and Spadina House next door. Everyone knows about it. It's not "Times Square" but a tourist destination that locals skip.

This post is a reminder that it's great to be a tourist in your own city.
4orty4th / January 18, 2011 at 03:57 pm
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Wychwood Art Barns are great ... as are the neat new additions to Toronto's waterfront - HT0 park near Rees on Queen's Quay, Sugar Beach at Jarvis Quay, and Sherbourne Park at Sherbourne Quay.

Allen Gardens is always a nice place to check out on a cold day.
There's also a sweet skating "trail" at Col. Sam Smith Park at Islington and the waterfront.
FilmFriend / January 18, 2011 at 04:17 pm
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The NFB Mediatheque at John and Richmond W is a great place to spend an afternoon or evening - it has thousands of NFB films available for free on their personal screening booths. No reservation needed or anything! I love watching old cartoons like The Cat Came Back.
Jacquaman replying to a comment from FilmFriend / January 18, 2011 at 04:19 pm
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Fully agree! You can't go wrong with FREE.
Elizabeth Friesen / January 18, 2011 at 04:24 pm
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How about the photo gallery at the Royal York Hotel? It's on the balcony level, overlooking the main lobby. It's filled with pictures of the Royal York in its heyday. It's still a glamourous hotel, but it was a real jewel back in the day.
lucky_bloke / January 18, 2011 at 04:39 pm
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I also agree with the NFB Mediatheque being a hidden gem - great stuff all the time.
Lloyd Alter / January 18, 2011 at 04:59 pm
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The city runs TEN museums, from Mackenzie House to Colborne lodge to Gibson House, all interesting. But the best obscure museum is the Sugar Museum down near Sugar beach.
Carla replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / January 18, 2011 at 06:26 pm
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There's an online version of the museum now.
http://projects.chass.utoronto.ca/utmusi/

Also there is Grant's Museum at UofT in the basement of the Medical Sciences building that has a lot of dissected specimens and stuff floating in glass jars. I kid you not.
Sean / January 18, 2011 at 06:27 pm
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This is so great... sharing all this neat info.

Canadian Air & Space Museum at Downsview Park.

Museum of Television, 560 Queen East

Toronto Police Museum and Discovery Centre, 40 College St.
-better behave there :)
Jason / January 18, 2011 at 07:14 pm
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FREE Toronto Walking Tours with Tour Guys (rated #1 on TripAdvisor) http://www.tourguys.ca

Toronto Urban Adventures "Beer Makes History Better" and Kensington Market & Chinatown" walking tours. http://www.torontourbanadventures.com

Cities are meant to be walked, and even locals can learn a lot from a walking tour with a professional guide.
Mr. S. / January 18, 2011 at 09:23 pm
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Good God. Reading this list from Tokyo, I don't think I can ever go home.
seanm replying to a comment from Mr. S. / January 18, 2011 at 09:32 pm
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Good, stay there. And you can keep the used panties as well. Why do people like you even bother posting?
bob / January 18, 2011 at 10:43 pm
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Everything below the Gardiner.

Also, most suburban folk don't know shit about places in the city other than the malls, and mostly it's the same vice-versa.
gilroyhe / January 18, 2011 at 10:45 pm
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Toronto has a museum of the history of contraception. You have to make an appointment though.
Mr. S. replying to a comment from seanm / January 19, 2011 at 05:03 am
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Spite.
Mr. S. replying to a comment from seanm / January 19, 2011 at 05:04 am
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You might also try a more informed cliche.
henry / January 19, 2011 at 06:29 am
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I agree with the poster who mentioned Markham. I feel that many Torontonians don't take the effort to discover their own immediate suburbs. There is more than shopping centres and strip malls! Honest!
Todd / January 19, 2011 at 07:09 am
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Have you ever actually tried to hype Toronto tourist 'attractions' to anyone from anywhere remotely interesting? Sure, the folks from Rochester, Buffalo, Windsor, Barrie, Regina etc. will be impressed by the sheer number of Chinese, Indians and the CN Tower ($50 later) but.. what if you have a friend visiting from Berlin, London, Beunos Aires, Oslo, Prague, Melbourne, Tokyo, Paris, Cape Town, Hong Kong, Stockholm, Montreal, the list goes on.. How do we impress people who have everything that we don't have?

Problem is, there's nothing in Toronto that you can't find more of, better of, the original of.. a few hours away in New York, Chicago or Montreal.. not to mention the rest of the world. Maybe we should hype some of the unique features of the city:

-Jaunty wooden 'heritage' telegraph poles that have all but disappeared in most other first world cities- Indicate to visitors that we are at the forefront of the 'Messy Urbanism' trend and that when this trend catches on, they'll regret the fact that they rid themselves of their telegraph poles. Tijuana and Hanoi will then try to take credit for for 'Messy Urbanism' while cities around the world will begin to 'Toronto Style' themselves, ordering thousands of wooden telegraph poles, installing them willy-nilly and at jaunty angles along some of their most prominent streets.

-Quaint subway tokens and paper transfers- These will remind visitors of their own cities- 10, 20 years ago and leave them yearning to go back to the old days.

-Easy to negotiate subway- Only 2 lines. Now isn't that easy?

-The world's largest Sears store in our most prominant downtown location- Point out that we've out USA'd the USA!

-The Beer Store- Emphasise that it's somewhat easier to purchase beer here than it is in Teheran, Riyadh or Kirachi.. unless it's a long weekend.

-Canadian Theatre Capital-'Mama Mia', 'Jersey Boys', 'South Pacific', 'Rock of Ages'.. Remind them that If they missed it in London or New York 5-10 years ago, it's here now.

-'We've played you'- Tours of film locations that have stood in for Baltimore, Detroit, New York, Cleveland, Anywhere USA. Remind them that despite the fact that we make no movies of our own, we are 'Hollywood North', Cultural Capital of Canada

-Emphasise to American tourists that 'We're the same as you!' All American fast food, retail, franchise, big box everything available here, and more on the way. American TV, movies, theatre.. that's all we watch. Make it known that while they're In Toronto, they can be in another country without ever realising that they're in another country.

-Sport Tourism- make people aware of the fact that if they come to see their team play the Leafs, Jays, Raptors, TFC, Argos.. they're likely to witness a road victory. Don't mention the Pan Am games, they won't know what you're talking about.

-Toronto History Museum- Not that this potential thriller is likey to ever get off the ground but if it does.. market it to insomniacs. If they don't nod off somewhere between the 'Marilyn Bell Swimteractive' and the 'SARS Isolation Unit' reenactment, they're probably incurable. They can then get whacked by some virtual facist Metro cops, G-20 style.

-St Clair ROW- Make it clear that this is the 'after' and not the 'before' and don't mention how much it cost or how long it took to make it so beautiful.

-Historic Districts- Take them to the 2 block Distillery District (if they can afford it) and explain how the surrounding 30 floor condos were designed to 'blend in'.

Most of all, explain how our numerous anti-fun rules and regulations, mundane modern condotecture, rotting inner suburbs and unaffordable, monoculture downtown make us one of the most fascinating cities in the world.

Don't forget to mention the Multiculturalism!















Steeplejack / January 19, 2011 at 07:38 am
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You have to know who you're catering to. I have relatives who are from Vienna, Austria. They like Toronto well enough, (they especially like the bookstores, and that a lot of stuff is cheaper here to buy than back home) although they have never come here to see it in particular. What they want, and what they thrive on, is the stuff they can't get back home -- miles and miles and miles of "nothing". That you can drive for hours without encountering anything bigger than a farmhouse. Biggest thrill for them was seeing a live wild bear near a friend's cottage. It took every kind of persuasion to keep them from running out and getting their picture taken with it. They just thought nobody back home would believe it. What they really wanted was the "wilderness" experience -- not an urban one. As you say, they can get that, and better, back home.
gadfly / January 19, 2011 at 08:03 am
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When we have visitors from out of town (which is often), we let them do Ontario Place/the island/CN Tower on their own (boring - been there, done that), but will include the Bluffs (and not Bluffers Park - Yech!), Guildwood Inn (where old bank buildings went to die and where a very, very old house still stands), Bridle Path ($10M homes a stone's throw from Bayview!) and the Forks of the Credit (Belfountaint.)
We usually take in Castle Loma, too, but just for photos outside.
My Toronto includes the suburbs.
iSkyscraper / January 19, 2011 at 10:21 am
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Todd, you kill me. Right on. I attended a Toronto tourism event put on with the consulate at Rock Ctr in New York once and had to laugh as the staff tried to highlight Toronto's attractions to the New York crowd that had shown up for the free snacks. Multiculturalism? Restaurants? Shopping? Nightlife? Ha - talk about bringing coals to Newcastle. Toronto is so used to shilling to the hicks in the rust belt and upstate New York and small-town Canada that they have absolutely no idea how to market the city to Boston, New York, DC, SF, LA, Chicago, etc.

I always described Toronto to friends as Manahattan north of 14th Street, while Montreal is like Manhattan south of 14th Street. If you know what I am referring to you will instantly understand the many statements that comparison conveys and why no New Yorker could possibly be interested in visiting Toronto but will fly, drive or train up to Montreal in a heartbeat. When I lived in England there was no tourism marketing for Toronto at all -- the draw of Canada is the mountains and snow of the Rockies or the rocky beaches of the Coast, not some midwestern (to their eyes) steel and glass metropolis north of Cleveland.

Yes, Toronto does have an attractive messy urbansim, though nowhere near as messy and urban as, say, Portland (whose food trucks destroy, utterly destroy, over-regulated Toronto). TTC streetcars are a huge potential attraction - see the city for a token - that has never been capitalized on like, say, the F-Market line in San Francisco or City Circle line in Melbourne. And the PATH underground is a very big attraction that dwarfs similar American complexes and yet goes completely unrecognized - tourists are amazed by the scale of it.

But essentially Toronto's main attraction is that it is a wonderfully livable city that is hyper connected to the rest of the world through population, culture and transport links yet also connected to its own amazing forested environs. Cottage country and the northern hinterlands, though increasingly harder to see through the Wal-Mart parking lot in Bracebridge, are a remarkable thing to have in your own backyard. As Steeplejack points out, the fact that you can point your car north and drive and drive as civilization falls away from you is incredible to many people. In Toronto you can have the world and the edge of the world at the same time, a very neat trick.
JonnyB / January 19, 2011 at 10:37 am
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Surely Toronto's best attraction is its citizens?

*All together now: awwww...*
Ed / January 19, 2011 at 10:53 am
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The village-like museum of Todmorden Mills at the bottom of Pottery Road.
W. K. Lis / January 19, 2011 at 10:58 am
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San Fransisco has its cable cars. Toronto has streetcars. They should be showing off its streetcar network better than they do now, which is none.

Of course, with Rob Ford's phobia with streetcars, they might be reluctant to do so.
Steeplejack / January 19, 2011 at 11:22 am
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If you want to entrance German tourists, take them to the Powwow at Wikwimikong, on Manitoulin Island, and make sure they know it's the only unceded piece of native territory in North America. Germans seem have an endless fascination for all things First Nation -- and the Manitoulin settlement (take them to Six Mile Point nearby and watch their jaws drop, when they realize what they're looking at is literally a "drop in the bucket" in the Great Lakes)is icing on the cake. On the other hand, that's one urban experience they won't get back home: Toronto has a huge powwow of its own, usually held at the Rogers Centre, if I recall. THAT might be something to entice people from, say, Bonn or Berlin...)
ryan / January 19, 2011 at 11:49 am
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rouge valley hikes in the fall and rouge valley tobogganing in the winter...
Alex replying to a comment from Todd / January 19, 2011 at 12:10 pm
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Totally agree...

Toronto is certainly livable...but world class attractions? Not in any way shape or form

You tell me one TO attraction and I'll give you 10 more elsewhere in the world that are better and in a nicer locale.
Ola replying to a comment from Kelly / January 19, 2011 at 12:37 pm
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Shouldn't this post be deleted as it's clearly advertising?
Stra / January 20, 2011 at 09:38 am
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someone brought up the paths underneath the city - funny, I have business dealings with people from L.A. and this is one "attraction" they've heard of that is mentioned all the time. And I'm not sure how they know this - when I ask them where Toronto is on a map, they generally have no clue.
Gavin Barrett / January 30, 2011 at 11:38 am
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Some thoughts:
1. The garden maze on Ward Island
2. Algonquin Island - bike through and feast on beautiful front yard gardens and quaint homes.
3. The Beach Walking Tours (free) - during Doors Open Toronto
4. The Beach Studio Tour. Visit Beach artists in their studios.
5. The house gardens of Spadina Museum, Scarborough Museum, Colborne Lodge; the park gardens - Kew Gardens, High Park,
6. The humble but sobering Memorial Wall for Toronto's Homeless Dead, Church of the Holy Trinity, Trinity Square
7. The Lost Rivers Walks. http://www.lostrivers.ca/
8. The Basilica of St Paul's, Power Street. Site of the first catholic church in Toronto (ceiling frescoes, in the style of the great Sistine Chapel)
9. I write on Multiculturalism and not enough is made of this. Little Italy, Portugal Village, Kensington Market, Greektown, Little India (N America's largest), the 3 Chinatowns (Dundas and Chestnut, Broadview and Gerrard, Spadina Ave)
10. The little Afghanistan-Little Ethiopia stretch on the Danforth, east of Donlands to Coxwell, Little Malta (aka The Junction), Little Jamaica (Eglinton W, just east of Dufferin)
11. Museum of Contemporary Art Queen W, just west of Shaw. http://www.mocca.ca/
12. The Elevated Wetlands sculptures by Noel Harding in Taylor Creek Park. Whoosh past on the DVP or bike right up to them in the park. http://www.toronto.ca/archives/acquisitions_fonds1236_noelharding.htm
13. The Toronto Archives at 255 Spadina Road. (Walk n from Dupont Station).
14. The High Park Zoo
15. Riverdale Farm
16. The Old Cemeteries: St James (toronto's oldest), Necropolis, Mt Pleasant, St John's Norway (in the Beach), St Michael's (s of St Clair and Yonge)
Gavin Barrett / January 31, 2011 at 04:04 pm
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Completely forgot this one. The incredible BAPS temple complex
http://toronto.baps.org/info.php
nn replying to a comment from Todd / January 31, 2011 at 05:08 pm
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Todd, you're awesome

you forgot asphalt patches covering 50% of our sidewalks and the thousands of ratty posters covering every square inch of every pole, utility box, phone booth, parking ticket dispenser etc etc.
Thomson / January 29, 2012 at 01:10 am
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Hockey Fall of fame.
http://www.hhof.com/

'nuff said. lol
LemaCize / February 14, 2012 at 02:28 am
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