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Toronto Election 2010 Results

Posted by Derek Flack / October 25, 2010

Toronto Election 2010 ResultsThe 2010 Toronto election results have just started to come in, and I'll be live-blogging throughout the evening about noteworthy developments in the mayoral race and across key wards. Stay tuned for updates (to be published in reverse order) over the course of the evening. For live election results throughout the evening, please check the City of Toronto's election results main page.

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With the conclusion of live coverage, I've reversed the updates back to chronological order so as to best demonstrate how the night unfolded. Please see the Ward breakdowns at the bottom for the full results of the 2010 Toronto municipal election. A couple may be subject to recounts, so I'll stress that what's listed here remains unofficial, with a few wards even reporting one or more polls not yet tabulated.

Toronto Election Results 2010Update 8:00 p.m.

Polls have just closed in the 2010 municipal election. Here's a first look at the big race.

  • Polls reporting = 609 of 1870
  • Rob Ford = 51.889%
  • George Smitherman = 31.235%
  • Joe Pantalone = 10.549%

Update 8:10 p.m.

That was super-fast and a bit anticlimactic. CP24 is already reporting that Rob Ford has won the mayoral race with about 50% of polls reporting.

Here's what the numbers say:

  • Polls reporting = 1292 of 1870
  • Rob Ford = 50.128%
  • George Smitherman = 32.923%
  • Joe Pantalone = 10.979%

Update 8:19 p.m.

Now Global News and the CBC are also reporting a Ford victory, so this is very real. Very, oddly, strangely, almost unbelievably real.

Update 8:24 p.m.

Key council races:

  • Doug Ford takes Ward 2 with almost 74% of the current vote.
  • It looks like Mike Layton will take Ward 19 with almost 45% of the vote (though only half of the polls have reported)
  • Ana Bailão looks to have Ward 18 with almost 44% of the vote and 21 of 29 polls reporting
  • Mary-Margaret McMahon has knocked off Sandra Bussin with a landslide victory in Ward 32, taking almost 66% of the vote with 33 of 38 polls reporting

More to come on council races...

Update 8:49 p.m.

A number of incumbents have been defeated tonight as city council experiences a major shake-up. Along with Sandra Bussin losing in Ward 32, here are some others who will not be returning to council:

  • Suzan Hall - Ward 1, Etobicoke North
  • Peter Milczyn - Ward 5, Etobicoke-Lakeshore
  • Maria Augimeri - Ward 9, York Centre
  • Bill Saundercook - Ward 13, Parkdale-High Park
  • Cliff Jenkins - Ward 25, Don Valley West
  • Ron Moeser - Ward 44, Scarborough East

Update: 9:03

There are still a few close council races, with Ward 27 a particularly exciting.

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Smitherman is putting on a brave face as he accepts defeat. When the crowd jeers at his congratulations to Rob Ford, he responds, "Toronto is too important. There'll be no boos here tonight."

Update: 9:20 p.m.

With almost all polls reporting, voter turnout hovers near 50%, up significantly from 2006.

Update: 9:35 p.m.

Some reaction on Twitter:

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Update 9:40 p.m.

Here's a list of the new faces on city council as of 9:30 p.m.

  • Vincent Crisanti, Ward 1
  • Doug Ford, Ward 2
  • Justin Di Ciano, Ward 5
  • Gus Cusimano, Ward 9
  • James Pasternak, Ward 10
  • Sarah Doucette, Ward 13
  • Josh Colle, Ward 15
  • Ana Bailao, Ward 18
  • Mike Layton, Ward 19
  • Jaye Robinson, Ward 25
  • Kristyn Wong-Tam, Ward 26
  • Josh Matlow, Ward 22
  • Mary Fragedakis, Ward 29
  • Mary Margaret McMahon Ward 32
  • Michelle Berardinetti, Ward 35
  • Gary Crawford, Ward 36

Update 9:44 p.m.

Rob Ford is positively beaming as he approaches the stage to give his victory speech. And, hey, I would be too. So congrats on a well-run campaign.

Update: 9:49 p.m.

Ford takes the stage at the Toronto Congress Centre. There's a strange reverb/echo thing going on that serves to reinforce this victory.

"Gravy train" is mention at the 45 second mark. The phrase "respect tax payers money" is uttered three times in the first minute and a half. "This victory is a clear call from taxpayers that enough is enough."

"Tonight the people of Toronto are not divided; we are united. We are united all around."

"Four years from tonight, you'll look back and say Rob Ford did exactly what he said he'd do."

Lots of boos for Smitherman, but Ford shakes those off well. Full applause for all the candidates as he lists them off.

Update 9:55 p.m.

More from Ford's speech:

"We'll ensure that every email and telephone call is answered. We'll cut the waste at City Hall. And we'll use that money to increase priority services. And we'll negotiate in good faith with out unions."

The party with people's tax dollars is over people.... We will stop the gravy train once and for all!"

"And Dad, this one was for you."

Update 10:10 p.m.

More from Twitter:

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Update 10:20

A look at the entire mayoral race with almost all polls reported:

20101025-results.jpgIt is absolutely insane to me that Don Andrews can get 1023 votes (and potentially a few more) -- especially when one considers that Himy Syed has 576. So much for the power of Twitter.

Update 10:55 p.m.

Contrary to the list of new faces on council below, the race in Ward 9 is yet to be won by Gus Cusimano. With 29 of 30 polls reporting, Maria Augimeri holds a 23 vote lead. I'll watch this for a final result.

ward 9Update: 11:30

Winners, Wards 1-6

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Update 11:40

Winners, Wards 7-12

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Update: 11:50

Wards, 13-18

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Update 11:56

Winners, Wards 19-24

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Update: 12:05

Winners, Wards, 25-30

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Update: 12:20

Winners, 31-36

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Update 12:38

Winners, Wards 37-44

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Update: 1:52

There's been a pretty surprising turnaround in Ward 5, as Peter Milczyn has jumped ahead 109 votes ahead of Justin Di Ciano at last count.20101026-ward5_2.jpg

Discussion

206 Comments

bob / October 25, 2010 at 08:13 pm
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R.I.P. Toronto
Blarg / October 25, 2010 at 08:18 pm
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Ford is mayor!
b replying to a comment from Blarg / October 25, 2010 at 08:19 pm
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hence, RIP Toronto
JT / October 25, 2010 at 08:21 pm
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Suck it blogto- Rob won.
Alex / October 25, 2010 at 08:23 pm
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I find the Rob Ford scorn really interesting...I've lived in Toronto for 34 years and seen it go steadily downhill...Miller knew he couldn't win and so retired...

Ford is all about fiscal responsibility...and that's a bad thing? The cities finances are a shambles!

It's pretty clear the city of Toronto is tired of endless expensive debacles that do nothing but make our streets worse (see St Clair streetcar mess), endless expensive speed bumps etc... and it's time for change.
qwerty / October 25, 2010 at 08:23 pm
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Don't be so negative. Give the guy a chance and if you don't like it, you can have a new mayor in four years.
laila / October 25, 2010 at 08:26 pm
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Ford is not mayor of Toronto - he is mayor of the suburbs.
He is not welcome in the city.
Greg / October 25, 2010 at 08:26 pm
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I cannot wait for this week's BlogTO articles :).

I hear the sky is falling. True story.
bob replying to a comment from Alex / October 25, 2010 at 08:27 pm
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Not true. Toronto has one of the lowest fiscal deficits of all major cities in North America. Half of Montreal, less than Vancouver, three times less than Chicago and Calgary, and more than three times less than New York.

Sorry Toronto, you let a pig like him fool you.
RealTalk / October 25, 2010 at 08:27 pm
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Yay time to expand the subway in the suburbs. Here's to de-urbanization!
adjfw replying to a comment from qwerty / October 25, 2010 at 08:29 pm
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I agree!
Anyone But Smitherman / October 25, 2010 at 08:30 pm
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha.
blarg / October 25, 2010 at 08:30 pm
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By a pretty big margin as well.

I hope the people who said they'd move out of T.O make good on their promise..I doubt it though.

Enjoy the mayor you hate so much because of his physical appearance and weight. Go Ford!
sejbjks replying to a comment from qwerty / October 25, 2010 at 08:31 pm
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A lot of damage can happen in four years.
blarg replying to a comment from sejbjks / October 25, 2010 at 08:32 pm
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Definitely agree with that. Miller has shown us what damage can be done in four years.
Kevin / October 25, 2010 at 08:35 pm
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RIP Toronto, you gave into American style fear-mongering and ignorance.
snowy / October 25, 2010 at 08:35 pm
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Was anti-climatic indeed! I'm alarmed/sad that Ford won, but delighted, absolutely thrilled, that Mary Margaret McMahon took the seat here in ward 32.
j replying to a comment from bob / October 25, 2010 at 08:35 pm
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Time to move out of the city!!! TRANSIT IS DEAD!! R.I.P. Toronto, we will move backwards for 4 years!!!
Daniel / October 25, 2010 at 08:40 pm
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There are 44 Wards. It's not like Toronto voted for 44 Fords. The mayor is more of a spokes person for the city. Sure Ford may not be a great one but Toronto will be just fine.
Aaron / October 25, 2010 at 08:42 pm
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Rob Ford just ate 7 streetcars.
bob replying to a comment from blarg / October 25, 2010 at 08:42 pm
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What damage? That was the man who pushed Toronto to constantly be recognized as one of the world's most liveable cities (and THE most at one point), made his environmental actions for Toronto recognized worldwide (even the mayor of LA said Toronto is what he wanted LA to aspire to), actually made things at the waterfront happen (and AMaZING projects, at that), created the Tower Renewal project (again, recognized by many), and saw the city's architectural renaissance happen?

Also, don't forget that because of his actions, the cities' revenue from it's attractions and tourism is higher than ever (by the way, this means our city has more money).

I don't understand, doesn't sound like a whole lot to hate to me.


(Look for Rob Ford to reverse all of this and take away all of the tourism and revenue created from attractions).
Greg replying to a comment from Kevin / October 25, 2010 at 08:43 pm
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Moral of the Story: If you don't do strategic voting you are ignorant.
chrisjemery / October 25, 2010 at 08:43 pm
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I'm not happy that Ford won, but you got to hand it to him; he really did run the best campaign.

I'm still proud to be a Torontonian, Miller did a damn god job, I will not leave this city, and I will fight for this city.
VoxClara / October 25, 2010 at 08:43 pm
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Yay! Ford wins! Despite what those of you posting are saying, he has won with over 50% of the vote. So at least half of Toronto is happy. Who know about the others? If we didn't have over 40 names on the ballot, we'd have a clearer picture but that's democracy for you. Our system is "first past the post" no matter the number of players. Rock on, Mr. Ford!
nate / October 25, 2010 at 08:44 pm
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That was a huge margin. I truely wonder how many vocal Ford messageboard haters did'nt actually vote.
red replying to a comment from Daniel / October 25, 2010 at 08:44 pm
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The mayor handles the big stuff, the large projects that affect the whole city.
cultureshot / October 25, 2010 at 08:45 pm
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Welcome to New Detroit, everyone!

Best case scenario: he can't accomplish anything. Worst case: He sets the city back ten years.
John S replying to a comment from Alex / October 25, 2010 at 08:47 pm
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I've lived here for about 20 years, and I've seen the city constantly improve over that time. St. Clair is infinitely more enjoyable and is attracting better businesses, and the speed bumps on my street make it safe for my kids to play in the neighbourhood. Not saying Rob Ford will be a bad mayor, but from my perspective its disingenuous to suggest the city is going downhill, and he is a white knight that will save us with budget cuts.
Alex / October 25, 2010 at 08:48 pm
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This is disappointing and rather disgusting.
sad replying to a comment from VoxClara / October 25, 2010 at 08:48 pm
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Look for that half of Toronto to be unhappy in a couple months, unless they are suburbanites. Oh wait! That's all of them!


Thank you to suburbanites for not actually caring about the city, just money!
andrewS replying to a comment from j / October 25, 2010 at 08:49 pm
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Toronto just went back by more than 4 years. 30 is more likely.

Dijon V / October 25, 2010 at 08:51 pm
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Yay Me! I voted for him he won and personally I'm glad that Billion Dollar Smitherman did'nt get to waste more of my money,If you hate Rob Ford and responsible fiscal policy so much go collect your welfare cheques in some other city.
Mark / October 25, 2010 at 08:51 pm
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This is great news. Finally the half of the city that has been shut out and ignored have someone as our Mayor. No more pandering to the vocal minority. Now the whole city will be represented and respected. Not just the bike riding hippies. Suck it hippies, the grown ups are in charge again.
Becky / October 25, 2010 at 08:51 pm
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On the upside, it's unlikely he'll be able to push through most of his ridiculous ideas... right? Right?
death / October 25, 2010 at 08:54 pm
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you're all fucked
Mike W / October 25, 2010 at 08:55 pm
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And the whining begins.

The apocolypse isn't landing on your doorstep. Be thankful you don't have a crook as your mayor.

I guess I can put away my consultant application forms.
Sean / October 25, 2010 at 08:57 pm
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Buh bye miller and good riddance you incompetent lame dolt. Go back to the city where you were born, San Francisco. Take smithermen with you.

Rob Ford is the new mayor of the largest city in Canada! The 64th to be exact.

Beware provincial and federal politicians. RESPECT FOR TAXPAYERS was the motto used by Ford and he won. That motto will reflect the future of politics and you better shape up or call an election now. Taxpayers are looking at the bottom line and don't want losers to represent them.

Congratulations Rob Ford. We look foward for you to return the city budget back in the black and keeping our taxes down.
sam replying to a comment from Dijon V / October 25, 2010 at 08:57 pm
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Like I said before, Toronto is not poor and our fiscal policy is already in check.

My god, it's like you people just eat up everything he gives to you.

I don't understand how Ford supporters are so easily convinced that Toronto is poor?

What, is our city only allowed mediocrity, and therefore is not allowed to spend?

In months to come I hope you realize, when Toronto becomes a cultural and environmental wasteland (hello smog, goodbye art), you'll see how good we had it.
george replying to a comment from Sean / October 25, 2010 at 08:59 pm
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Funny, I thought "Respect for Taxpayers" meant our money would be well spent, so why is Ford mayor?
Mike W / October 25, 2010 at 08:59 pm
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Oh look suburb-haters. You make 'downtown' look like its populated by a bunch of crybabies who can't think outside Bloor St. Man up and put away your hankies. There's no mysterious 'uptowners' controlling your city.
MCWL / October 25, 2010 at 09:02 pm
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I am considering moving to Banff, Alberta - GREAT SKIING (much better than GTA), probably as conservative as Toronto now with this new mayor, & minimal public transit!
belvedere / October 25, 2010 at 09:03 pm
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fuuuuuuuuuck. i hope david miller is stinking drunk right now. and from what i've seen on cp24 i think rob ford should stop starving his wife and eating all the fucking food in their household.
Rob Ford / October 25, 2010 at 09:04 pm
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HAHAHAHAH,

i won! i won! even I can't believe it. get ready for a weird, wild ride.
new rules i will be implementing:
1) bicycles are now ILLEGAL to own/operate.
2) TTC will be sold to a private company (that i may or may not have stock in)
3) all street cars (even the new ones) will be put to rest at sea. i MAY consider keeping the busses, but only if we get rid of those hybrid ones, go back to classic coal burning steam powered busses, the ones my grand pappy used to ride
4) no more parades. anywhere. ever. (sorry leaf fans. even if the laughs win the cup, NO PARADE FOR YOU!)
5) ... i haven't decided what number 5 will be. death of first born? has a nice ring to it.



wtf toronto? HOW did this jackass get in? i know that Canadian politicians are boring, and there was really no one else to vote for, BUT who in their right mind thought Rob Ford was the right choice? the drivers in toronto? they aren't true torontonians. you live in a 400 sq.ft. apartment, paying $1000 a month, plus $500 for building maintenance, plus parking, plus parking where you drive, plus gas, plus insurance, plus car maintenance, plus the initial cost of the car.
ARE YOU NUTS!


thanks for throwing the rest of us under the bus..er..uh.. under the cars. (side note, with the increase in traffic, it might be safer to be under a car)



p.s. i hate Rob Ford
saea / October 25, 2010 at 09:07 pm
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Time for G-20 protest #2!
john / October 25, 2010 at 09:07 pm
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Rob ford just won take that you self serving liberals Toronto is more than just down tow. You people don’t realize taxing the higher income brackets and the middle class is not the answer. You may think the rich are paying for your new programs and other things, but in ten years with inflation you will be in that tax bracket. You people have no foresight its like the blind leading the blind. Toronto is finally crawled out from under this liberal rock and you dismiss the opportunity. Accountability has returned to Toronto we have hope again were not a lost cause.
saltspring replying to a comment from death / October 25, 2010 at 09:09 pm
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Death, thou art correct. And there ain't no Christ to save us. Perhaps we might invite the Taliban to a council meeting for hopeful input (i.e. bomb vests). Fundamentalism meets fundamentalism. God save America. Long live George Bush. Toronto is now completely fucked.
Displays / October 25, 2010 at 09:14 pm
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Funny how Ford supporters keep insulting Miller, Smitherman, the imaginary "Elites", the Media. Ford won, You won. Let's now talk about ideas, the future, the plan for Ford to improve and build the city.
Show us that you really love the city instead of keeping the discussions at that very low level.
john / October 25, 2010 at 09:15 pm
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Rob ford won running a clean campaign you liberals finally lost get use to it Toronto is tired of your crap. So shut up and be respectful. Your the minority now Toronto is tired of bending over backwards for you.
Danielle Rabbat replying to a comment from Greg / October 25, 2010 at 09:15 pm
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Not true re: strategic voting. Even if EVERYONE who voted for Pantalone voted for Smitherman, we would STILL have Ford for mayor. Ford=50% Smitherman=32% Pantalone=11%. 32+11=43%. I'm glad I stuck to my guns and voted for Pantalone.
Anyone But Smitherman / October 25, 2010 at 09:16 pm
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Sandra Bussin defeated as well. Another corrupt politician bites the dust.
hahahahahha last stop on the gravy train you scoundrels.
Anyone But Smitherman / October 25, 2010 at 09:17 pm
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awwww how cute Smitherman is holding up his prop during his speech.
jennifer / October 25, 2010 at 09:17 pm
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The upside is that he is one vote on council. Hopefully he won't be able to do too much damage in the next 4 years, and fingers crossed he doesn't embarrass us too much on the world stage.

Our city deserves so much better than this lumbering buffoon.
Crystal replying to a comment from Mark / October 25, 2010 at 09:18 pm
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Yes, Mark, I'm so sure Ford will respect the "bike-riding hippies." Much like you're doing.
shannon / October 25, 2010 at 09:19 pm
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the real question here is, how many friendly ford seats are there on the council post election. Does he have enough to push anything through, if not then he is a lame duck mayor who can't do much.
Avisin / October 25, 2010 at 09:20 pm
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The city of Toronto is more then the downtown core. We voted the right guy in, George was the wrong guy; come on, what the he'll did he stood for anyway. George message was how much he hated Ford. Miller was the one who screwed the City and Rob will fix. We wouldn't in this mess if Tory won 7 years ago.
Patrick Curtis replying to a comment from laila / October 25, 2010 at 09:21 pm
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I live in the City and I am thrilled Rob Ford has won!
Mandy / October 25, 2010 at 09:23 pm
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The people have spoken.
RIP Toronto. : [
Xavier / October 25, 2010 at 09:24 pm
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I'm sure George will get an appointment from Dalton and he can get back to blowing public funds. He'll be ok
Danny P / October 25, 2010 at 09:24 pm
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Hey, look at it this way: Toronto comedy writers won't have to work at coming up with new material for the next 4 years. Ford will be great at embarrassing the city and making a fool of himself, but not much else.
jay replying to a comment from belvedere / October 25, 2010 at 09:25 pm
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More shallow fat jokes. Pathetic.
Scott / October 25, 2010 at 09:26 pm
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Mayor Family Guy wins!
Sab replying to a comment from Anyone But Smitherman / October 25, 2010 at 09:26 pm
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Agree! Anyone but Smitherman!
Danny P / October 25, 2010 at 09:26 pm
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"Suck it hippies, the grown ups are in charge again."

Your juvenile comments and attitude clearly demonstrate your actual maturity level. You've elected a fellow simpleton and emotional child to council, congrats. Enjoy your sadistic fantasy for a while until the reality of the impossibility of his ludicrous promises sets in.
Alex replying to a comment from John S / October 25, 2010 at 09:27 pm
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How much is TTC today? How are your taxes? How about your garbage bill?

All of those things have increased way above inflation because of fiscal mis-management.

And you are really going to defend the St Clair street car debacle that is barely used? They tore up that whole street between Spadina and Bloor at a cost of millions to accomplish nothing?

You think speed bumps make anything safer? Bet you anything that kids getting hurt in car accidents no better than 20 years ago per capita.

It's easy to say that Toronto has decent fiscals when you ignore the massive tax increases property owners have faced over the past 8 years.

No matter what you think, the reality is that Smitherman's massive defeat is an indictment of everything Miller "accomplished" in 8 years in office and the people of the city of Toronto are clearly sick the left spending our money for us.
Tony / October 25, 2010 at 09:28 pm
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To those anti Rob Ford's poster, most of you wasting too much time against him and forgot to get your lazy self to the polling station.
To those who support and vote for Rob Ford, he is an average voter just like you who complained about City Hall but doesn't have a solution to the problem or vision for a better city of Toronto.

My takes and I hope Rob Ford read this post:
The city need to use civilian board to run its services. TTC need to make a profit in order to invest for a better service. Road toll on DVP and Gardiner except people who paid for the vehicle registration fee and the money from the toll can only be use to improve road, subway, underground tunnel and highway.
saddam / October 25, 2010 at 09:31 pm
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I am alive and well and possessing Rob Ford.
Meh replying to a comment from Xavier / October 25, 2010 at 09:33 pm
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But it looks like Sarah Thompson may be out of luck.

I wish Rocco had done better :(
Mike McC / October 25, 2010 at 09:37 pm
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thank god we're rid of Sandra Bussin,howard Moscoe and a few other hacks.
HB / October 25, 2010 at 09:38 pm
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Too bad there wasn't a Barbary Ape running for Mayor... Ford's share of the vote would be halved as there would have been no reason to vote one way or the other... now look what you've got... half of you must suffer from an unhealthy mix of greed and ADD (i.e., suburbannitis)?... there's no other honest excuse.

Regarding Toronto's future image... the Ape hasn't even sat his arse in the Mayor's seat yet and from where I live, which is well away from Toronto, things have already soured... congratulations!
HUK / October 25, 2010 at 09:38 pm
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I guess it's time to get rich or die trying.
saltspring / October 25, 2010 at 09:42 pm
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Here's the plan: invite Rob to a KFC Double Down fest and let him dig in. His coronaries will cry uncle and we will be liberated. Long live punitive fat!!!!!
Mike W replying to a comment from Displays / October 25, 2010 at 09:45 pm
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Are you reading most of the comments preceeding yours?

Take a look at the first 10 comments, there's more people crying that the sky is falling than people yelling "up yours".

I live midtown and am glad Ford beat Smitherman too. I bike, drive, have liberal politics and consider my self a Torontonian, not a downtowner or uptowner or any of that childish BULLS, but I can't stand by all the rampant mismangement Ford speaks out against and everyone stays mum about.
Elizabeth / October 25, 2010 at 09:50 pm
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I'm embarrassed to be a Torontonian. F$%k the "gravy train." This guy is homophobic, racist, anti-immigration, has DUIs, drug possession charges, etc., etc. etc. How could he possibly be a good mayor??? This is a nightmare.
Mark / October 25, 2010 at 09:51 pm
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Yeah! Rob Ford is mayor! Take it up your's you liberal slitherman jerks! Servers you right! Dooms day is upon us you say? Nah, its a new day! Enough is enough and change is now for the better! You haven't seen anything YET!

Now that that's behind us, lets bury the hatchet and rebuild our city.
Seishin / October 25, 2010 at 09:53 pm
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The real life version of Peter Griffin is now mayor of Toronto.

W.T.F.
S / October 25, 2010 at 09:54 pm
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I feel sorry for the next mayor who has to pick up after Ford's (big) mess...
Ryan L. / October 25, 2010 at 09:56 pm
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"Gary Crawford, Ward 36"

One station still hasn't reported in. And there is only 200 votes separating him and Robert Spencer. I don't know about you, but that doesn't seem final to me.
Lionel / October 25, 2010 at 09:59 pm
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Note how bizarre are the comments of the ford-ites. SPEED BUMPS? SPEED BUMPS??? What alternate universe does THAT guy live in? these aren't low -information voters, they're grade-school dropouts, I guess. Surprised they didn't add climate change and creationism to their posts. We just dropped off the map as a world-class city, and are now about equal with Peoria and no doubt Kentucky is on the horizon. Too bad, Toronto was almost a liveable city, and now it's going to be Mississauga. A joke. Sad, really - it just proves that some people can type. But that's about all. Time to de- amalgamate and leave the Canada's wonderland people back where they belong - living in cars.
Steve J / October 25, 2010 at 10:01 pm
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I'm not happy Ford won, but with a voter turnout of 50% (which is high) the other 50% have no right to complain or blame but themselves. And for those who DID vote against him, and with all the anti-Ford rhetoric that flowed like water the past few weeks you'd think it would have been a much closer race - so WTF happened?

My main thought is the biggest mistake is everyone focused too much on TELLING people to NOT vote for Ford when instead they should have focused on ASKING people why THEY should vote for someone else.

Hate him or not, Ford seemed to speak the language the people wanted to hear. Read'em and weap Toronto, the deck is shuffled and a new game has begun - time will tell how big the pot on the gravy train actually is.
Smitty / October 25, 2010 at 10:04 pm
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I cannot believe all the crying, whining sore losers, but should I expect anything less from Smitherman supporters, your attitude after you have lost the battle is the exact reason he lost.............you are all the same
J / October 25, 2010 at 10:07 pm
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On the up side of things - Ford will actually have to do some work for the first time in his life, though it does boggle the mind that someone who never accomplished anything on council has managed to get elected.
bullring / October 25, 2010 at 10:08 pm
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I received an invoice from the city to register my pug -with a threat of a $4k fine if I don't-, do I still have to pay this ridiculous fee?
Michael Panontin / October 25, 2010 at 10:10 pm
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A bunch of spoiled, middle-class centre-of-the-universe idiots - that's what I think of half of Toronto at the moment. I left the Windsor-Detroit area because of such short-sighted views and I have seen the damage that dumb-ass car-centric policies can wreak. Let's hope it's only 4 years.
John Curtosi replying to a comment from saltspring / October 25, 2010 at 10:13 pm
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So it's OK to hurl abuse against Ford because of his appearance and weight? You are an ignorant, self-righteous hypocrite. What if Smitherman was verbally assaulted for his homosexuality? Would that suit you well? Do you have any sense of your vile duplicity? Do you ridicule others because of their weight or appearance? Your statements are despicable regardless of Ford's qualifications and abilities or lack thereof.
artdyphartsy / October 25, 2010 at 10:14 pm
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How can the arts get better if the funding for it will be cut (ie removed entirely)?
cocoa replying to a comment from artdyphartsy / October 25, 2010 at 10:15 pm
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Money isn't a prerequisite for good art, sometimes struggle produces great art?

Hmm replying to a comment from Lionel / October 25, 2010 at 10:17 pm
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Whenever I follow U.S. politics I laugh at Republicans, Tea-Baggers, Fox nuts, the Christian fundies and their myriad followers who bring out the tired bogeymen of "liberals" and the decline of values.

And then I see the same thing in reverse here in Toronto where anyone who cares about fiscal responsibility and doesn't have an NDP sticker on their bike is branded a Tea-bagger or nut case even though such comparisons with American right-wingers are ridiculous.

Keep putting up the caricatures and you just make yourself look petty, because if you actually look at the people who voted for Ford you will discover a lot of middle class voters of all stripes (and a hell of a lot of immigrants as well) who were tired of city hall's attitude.

And if that makes you brand Ford voters a bunch of knuckle-dragging inbreds then you'd better stay inside your basement apartment because its a scary world out there.
bullring replying to a comment from artdyphartsy / October 25, 2010 at 10:17 pm
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Why does arts constantly need funding? Make some good art and people will buy it. Wow, what a concept.

Stop the arts funding welfare gravy train already.
Tony replying to a comment from Elizabeth / October 25, 2010 at 10:18 pm
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And Torontonians voted for him. What does that tell you?
Daniel replying to a comment from John Curtosi / October 25, 2010 at 10:25 pm
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good post. i was trying to think the best way to write this and you nailed it. who cares if he is fat and not well spoken? did ANYONE comment about smitherman's gayness? no one would even dare. however, that is likely the real reason why he never got any traction. toronto is a multicultural city and unfortunately, being gay is not as cool everywhere as it is downtown.

ren / October 25, 2010 at 10:28 pm
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ford will do a great job. honesty is his best trait and the people of toronto could easily see it.
Displays replying to a comment from Mike W / October 25, 2010 at 10:30 pm
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Ford spoke out against mismanagement. OK. Now, let's see how the candidate morphs to a responsible mayor.
A mayor who can take care of the not so sexy issues such as the aging water infrastructure for example.
Let's just all hope that "respect for taxpayers" do not become "reduce the taxes before the next provincial elections" and "let the problems take care of themselves".

Can he do it ?
Inglourious Bantered / October 25, 2010 at 10:30 pm
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So, how do we start the de-amalgamation process?
John replying to a comment from Tony / October 25, 2010 at 10:33 pm
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It says that most Torontonians aren't shallow and bigoted as you and your ilk are. Why don't you post a pic of yourself so we can see what a perfect physical specimen you are?
saltspring replying to a comment from John Curtosi / October 25, 2010 at 10:33 pm
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Ahh, there, there, doesn't that feel better now, honey?

You know, if you put yourself out in the public forum, you gotta take the lumps. And God knows all of the candidates have holes in their characters in which to hurl lumps.

But I'm rather fascinated by how a prig (note, not prick, though that may apply, too) like you takes such overblown offence to my comment. I can only conclude that you are fat beyond legend. Hah!!!!!!!
Soren / October 25, 2010 at 10:36 pm
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It could be worse, Mississauga voted for a dried apple doll.
bigliotti / October 25, 2010 at 10:38 pm
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I propose stopping the gravy train by making all roads into Toronto toll roads. Starting tomorrow. And making all suburban people register their cards as out-of-boundary vehicles. And any car with under 4 passengers can only travel after 10 am. And all suburban dogs must get a monthly license. And any house with a garage should pay a land tax. And any suburban house over 900 sq feet should pay a useless space tax. Let's make Toronto fiscally responsible and support Mayor Ford.
bullring replying to a comment from John Curtosi / October 25, 2010 at 10:48 pm
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Ford chooses to be obese by way of his diet and lack of exercise.

Did you choose your sexuality? I didn't. I like boobs naturally.
Philm / October 25, 2010 at 10:49 pm
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Every time the economy sinks, right wing parties and people get elected. They campaign on the promise of balancing budgets, cutting spending and sticking it to unions and liberal intellectuals. It's a simple formula. It worked for mike Harris. It worked for Regan. It worked for George Bush.

A key part of the formula is to make people believe that the state/city is on the brink of doom. Which is often no the case. The sad part is that in the end they leave a real mess.

I don't blame Ford. I blame mike harris.
ItIsBananans replying to a comment from blarg / October 25, 2010 at 10:49 pm
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Blarg, it's more about the fact that he is a racist, a misogynist, a homophobe, and an idiot.
acdarmstrong / October 25, 2010 at 10:49 pm
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Has anyone else noticed that Rocco Rossi received almost 5,000 votes and Sarah Thomson almost 2,000? These are some of the people who voted tonight who obviously are uninformed, uneducated and illiterate enough to vote for people who weren't even in the race anymore.
Michael / October 25, 2010 at 10:54 pm
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Big mandate. That's democracy, sometimes you aren't on the winning side.
Kenny / October 25, 2010 at 10:57 pm
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Well, it's over. So can we stop all the rhetoric, name-calling, and crying? Forget past indiscretions, avoid the us vs them mentality, and work together for the future?

Ford is Mayor, as chosen by nearly 50% of Toronto voters, the majority has spoken, and if you are absolutely disgusted with the result, you must still respect it.

I voted for Ford, have been vocal in his support, but if he truly does screw this city up more than Miller... I will eat my words.
Chris replying to a comment from Avisin / October 25, 2010 at 10:58 pm
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You're right, Toronto IS more than downtown.

The suburbs contain all of the thirteen "priority" neighbourhoods in the city. (Weston-Mount Dennis borders the old city, so it's ALMOST on the radar of downtowners.)
And yet, we've elected a mayor who wants to cut all additional program funding for the priority neighbourhoods. He also wants to cut approved funding to improve public transit in the inner suburbs, along Don Mills, Jane, Eglinton, Finch and into Malvern.

So yeah, just because he represented a suburban riding, I don't think Ford is by any means a friend of the inner suburbs as a whole.
Don't kid yourself.
Chris replying to a comment from acdarmstrong / October 25, 2010 at 10:58 pm
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Or they just wanted to make the point that those two candidates made a mistake by dropping out.
Mark / October 25, 2010 at 10:58 pm
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When Conservatives lose elections, they get to work thinking how to convince the public that they made the wrong choice and persuading them to reconsider next time. When liberals lose, they bitch, moan and make idle threats about moving out of town or country that they never follow through on because they are shiftless poseurs. That is what differentiates the grown-ups from the perpetual children. This election shows there are still grown-ups in Toronto.
Mark / October 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm
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Enjoy the next four years saltspring. I hope everyday you are reminded that your mayor is ROB FORD. I hope it gives you nightmares and keeps you up at night. You are a disgusting person who deserves nothing less.
bob / October 25, 2010 at 11:01 pm
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Haha looks like the hippies forgot to vote - yes that was happening today!

I live downtown Toronto (ward 27)and I voted for Ford.

I'm upset that Wookey didn't win ward 27 however...
qwerty / October 25, 2010 at 11:03 pm
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<negative comment about Ford>
Mike W replying to a comment from Displays / October 25, 2010 at 11:09 pm
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No doubt; now he has to earn it.
I have more faith in him than Smitherman though, that's why I voted for him.

bullring: it's too bad people like don't realize you're just as bigotted as the people who say sexuality is a choice.

ItIsBananans: The racist comments are interesting, given his strong support in chinatown and scarborough. Misogynist? His wife doesn't think so. Idiot? lol, are you the Mayor of Toronto?
Tony replying to a comment from John / October 25, 2010 at 11:13 pm
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Actually sweetcheeks it does say they are as bigoted as Ford is. Or at least ready and willing to overlook such characteristics in a mayor. You fail at basic comprehension.
Mike W replying to a comment from Mark / October 25, 2010 at 11:14 pm
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+1, saltspring you must lead such a sad life, even if you don't realize it.
Matt / October 25, 2010 at 11:14 pm
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How does liberal = elitist. It's closer to the exact opposite.
gregsdgf / October 25, 2010 at 11:18 pm
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winner winner chicken dinner
col / October 25, 2010 at 11:19 pm
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I can't believe all the negative views of Rob Ford winning on this blog. What kind of people like to see their money thrown down the drain day in and day out by a bunch of left-wing tree huggers, put together by a weak bicycle obsessed twit called Miller? You people should get a job and start paying taxes. You might then wake up and realize how wasteful and irresponsible the previous regime was. It seems Toronto (the hard working people that is) have voted for an end to the "Gravy Train". Congratulations to Mr. Ford and all the new councilors. We need you to change this slumping city!
zxc / October 25, 2010 at 11:20 pm
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Man, so many haters on twitter. If they don't like it, why don't they run for mayor.
Woody replying to a comment from Hmm / October 25, 2010 at 11:22 pm
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Classic!! I policed that city for 12 yeras. You need a mayor with cajones, you finally have one.
MJE / October 25, 2010 at 11:26 pm
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19 of the 44 candidates that were elected were endorsed by Now Toronto (socialist bent). It will be interesting, but nothing is going to get done.
cocoa / October 25, 2010 at 11:44 pm
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God, people. This city isn't defined by its mayor. We're a few million people going bout our biz. A few less bike lanes, some slightly more raggedy street fests...We'll deal with it.

Stop acting like the world fell apart because this guy was elected. GEEZE.
blarg / October 25, 2010 at 11:47 pm
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All the hate directed at Ford is sad. Some of it being about his appearance/weight.

Nice way to come across as shallow and pretty much as stupid as your making out Ford supporters to be.

"Don't vote for him because he is fat"

Come on Smitherman supporters where were you? Why didn't you vote? Oh the majority (you'd claim all the idiots) voted? That's how democracy works no?
blarg / October 25, 2010 at 11:51 pm
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I don't know what's so hard to understand about not voting for a guy with the following track record:

Taking away eyes exams but then increasing my health tax? And I am rewarded with....longer wait times?

Increasing my hydro bill and paying people ten times the amount to generate windmill power?

Using 1 billion dollars to fund a system that does....nothing?

But apparently many posters don't mind as long as the candidate can speak well and hide his fat through nice suits..

You sound like the losers in relationship to me...oh but he was so nice.. and then he lied and beat me..
Mark replying to a comment from Hmm / October 25, 2010 at 11:54 pm
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Best comment of the night HMM.

For those of you that are simply counting LEFT and RIGHT votes on council and believe that Mayor Ford will have little impact of council...think again. There are a plethora of tactics that a mayor can use to press upon councillors to move his agenda. See last 2 terms of Mayor Miller for an example of many of the tactics. Mayor Ford will be able to move many (if not all) of his programs through with little or no problems.

To the whining LIbs - have a nice sleep.
Antony replying to a comment from MJE / October 25, 2010 at 11:55 pm
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Yep, Now Toronto's picks are almost a majority on council. And 8 of the 9 most bike-friendly councilors got re-elected.

I look forward to Rob Ford cutting through the red tape of the A La Cart program. Was that in his platform? It should have been.
munzz / October 25, 2010 at 11:58 pm
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‎288,104 (Smitherman) + 95,084 (Pantalone) > 381,803 (Rob Ford)
Calvin replying to a comment from VoxClara / October 26, 2010 at 12:00 am
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"Yay! Ford wins! Despite what those of you posting are saying, he has won with over 50% of the vote. So at least half of Toronto is happy."

Wrong. We can only conclude for certainty that about 25% of Toronto is happy due to the 50% voter rate.
iSkyscraper / October 26, 2010 at 12:01 am
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I'm picturing a future North American Mayor's conference that goes something like this:

"Oh hello Mayors Newsom, Adams, Villaraigosa... the seminar on Streetcars, Bicycle Lanes and Urban Development is down the hall to your right. Yes Mayor Bloomberg, you will be speaking at the Reforming City Schools panel discussion afterwards. Mayor Robertson, your keynote address on Property Tax Incentives for Sustainability is at 4:30 pm. No, Mayor Daley, the Green Roof Heat Island Reduction presentation is not until this evening after the black tie dinner.

Oh, Mayor Ford, hi. The children's playroom is on the left, and we have left you a pile of red crayons and budget reports that you can draw angry faces on. Would you like some juice?"


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Look, I'm an ex-pat so this is all entertainment to me. But what have you people done to yourselves? Enjoy your Tea Party, Toronto.
Michael replying to a comment from Calvin / October 26, 2010 at 12:08 am
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While technically correct, non-voters opted to let others make their decisions for them. Therefore it doesn't matter if they are happy or not.

Michael replying to a comment from munzz / October 26, 2010 at 12:10 am
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Check your math.
Michael replying to a comment from Michael / October 26, 2010 at 12:12 am
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Or I should check mine.....my bad.
iSkyscraper replying to a comment from col / October 26, 2010 at 01:08 am
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Col, you're pretty uninformed as to the state of North American cities. Miller was "bicycle-obsessed"? Dude, you wouldn't know bicycle-obsessed if someone clocked you on the head with a tire pump. Toronto is a very slow mover in the world of bike lanes and pedestrianization and Miller could be said to have at least found a decent middle ground with a pilot project here or there and the inkling of some major policy. But look at New York, a place that used to be very hostile to bikes, where lanes now crisscross Manhattan, garages are required to provide bike parking and employers must provide showers for bike commuters. Toronto is behind the times, and you're so far back it's like 1950. Get with it.
aprovocateur replying to a comment from bob / October 26, 2010 at 01:26 am
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This is so much fun to watch Rob win while the lefties squeal like little stuck pigs!!! They had their four years, now we gotta clean up the mess from Millergeddon!!

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
BigCConservative replying to a comment from artdyphartsy / October 26, 2010 at 02:46 am
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"How can the arts get better if the funding for it will be cut (ie removed entirely)?"

All great artists suffer for their craft. Pay a man for work he has not yet done and he will not do it. Artists will just have to do what they did before Mayor Miller. Make good works and sell them. Picasso did it. Dali did it. Yousuf Karsh did it. Are Toronto's artists better than the aforementioned? No.
Government programs don't create greatness.
Philm replying to a comment from col / October 26, 2010 at 04:14 am
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"get a job" . I have job. A good paying job. I pay taxes. Why would you assume that I, or anybody who doesn't like Rob Ford, doesn't have a job? Do you assume that only lazy unemployed people oppose Ford? If so, why? What are you basing this belief on? But, even if you are right, does being unemployed diminish someones political opinion? Do you believe that being unemployed means that you should not have a political opinion?
Philm replying to a comment from col / October 26, 2010 at 04:15 am
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"get a job" . I have job. A good paying job. I pay taxes. Why would you assume that I, or anybody who doesn't like Rob Ford, doesn't have a job? Do you assume that only lazy unemployed people oppose Ford? If so, why? What are you basing this belief on? But, even if you are right, does being unemployed diminish someones political opinion? Do you believe that being unemployed means that you should not have a political opinion?
Philm replying to a comment from BigCConservative / October 26, 2010 at 04:39 am
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I think that if you look at western art history, be it the performing art or visual arts, you will find that most great artists were at one time or another supported by state funding. Certainly, the bulk of classical art is made possible by funding from nobility or the church. Both the church and the nobility got their money from taxes. So you could say that taxes built the splendor of European culture.

But that's Europe. In the 21st century, a large group of great artist emerged from new deal art funding, where artists were actually paid weekly salary to make art. J. Pollack and Ansel Adams come to mind. The GI bill certainly, allowed many post war artist to learn how to make art.

You are right, picasso and Dali never received state funding. Both did however study at state funded art schools. They did not pay tuition.

As for suffering. Picasso burnt many of his paintings in an attempt to keep warm during his early years in Paris. Picasso was a member of the communist party in France, so he himself would have most likely supported state art funding.

Why is suffering such an important part of making art? I've seen great art by artist who didn't have to suffer. I just don't think that the two are related.
Chris Orbz / October 26, 2010 at 06:14 am
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I'd say it's perfectly reasonable to bring up Ford's weight and appearance as they are caricatures of his ignorant, unhealthy, greedy, car-centric and pigheaded platform. Smitherman being gay didn't connect to his platform, neither did Pantalone being short, but Ford being a fat idiot was his whole campaign.
Anyone But Smitherman replying to a comment from Chris Orbz / October 26, 2010 at 06:53 am
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Smitherman didn't connect because he tried to steal Fords platform. People saw him for what he is, a scoundrel who will do and say anything to get elected. Smitherman is no athlete either. He just hides his rolls of fat better. Have you seen pictures of his husband? Now who do you think is the bottom in that relationship? Lol. Look at the bright side, as health minister he managed to get sex change operations covered by OHIP. You should be happy about that.
VoxClara replying to a comment from sad / October 26, 2010 at 07:03 am
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That half can grumble and complain all they want. We had 50% voter turnout which is actually high in a non-mandated vote situation. But the silent half must stay silent, no vote, no voice, no complaints, please. You had the chance to vote. You didn't. Now be quiet.
VoxClara replying to a comment from munzz / October 26, 2010 at 07:04 am
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Doesn't matter. "First past the post": that's our system.
blarg replying to a comment from Chris Orbz / October 26, 2010 at 07:26 am
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Wow...

His weight was the cause/result of his "pig headed" platform? How would you explain George Bush's 8 years? He was a trim, mountain biking, 50 year old...

Please don't mask your hatred of overweight people with "platform" issues. Nice cheapshot.
raindogs / October 26, 2010 at 07:31 am
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I'm an immigrant and totally support Ford. It's time to end this liberal crap. I'm pleased to see how liberals above are already shaking :)
blarg replying to a comment from Anyone But Smitherman / October 26, 2010 at 07:40 am
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Agreed. How can anyone support Smitherman who was the head of so government bodies that were responsible for:

Taking away eye exams but pushing for sex changes.

The Green Energy Act? Which consists of paying suppliers way more than we are charged?

http://fit.powerauthority.on.ca/Storage/102/11137_FIT_Program_Overview_August_new_price_version_1.3.1_final_for_posting.pdf

Health Minister? What has E-Health done for you? I remember sitting around in the hospital with my sister for an EYE INJURY for an hour. Maybe if that money went to more NURSES and DOCTORS the wait time wouldn't be that long..
jackandcokewithalime / October 26, 2010 at 07:46 am
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Congrats to Rob Ford and to Toronto!

I love watching you pro-Miller and pro-Pantalone elitist anti-taxpayer blogTO readers squirming... It's just so satisfying. :) And those Twitter messages... Man, they were so great. I read them and I can't help but smile. Maybe if the people who were twittering actually went out and voted, you all wouldn't have lost by such a landslide!! Ha ha ha!!

Goodbye Bike Lanes, Streetcars and all of the other crap (like Unions) that the super-left elitist morons have been shoving down our throats for years. Welcome back common-sense and respect for the taxpayers.

I can't wait until Rob Ford cuts all of the funding for all of your arts and green BS, and someone finally fixes the roads, synchronizes the traffic lights, and cleans up this city.

--jackandcokewithalime
Rompinroni / October 26, 2010 at 07:47 am
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How come the arts that are subsidized by the taxpayer are too expensive for the taxpayer to attend. How come the arts and the palaces they reside can't make a profit like any other business? If public transit is so efficient how come it has to be subsidized? If sports palaces are subsidized by the taxpayer, how come most taxpayers can't afford to attend the games yet the players can make several millions of dollars per year? How come that on average, the taxpayer funded jobs have higher pay and benefits than private sector jobs? How come tolls are needed for roads when gas, licensing, and other fees have already paid for them four times over?
Get over it people. The voter has spoken. That is who pays the bill. Liberals get out of the way.
gregsdgf / October 26, 2010 at 07:56 am
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Will BlogTO post any positive twitter feeds for Rob Ford?
gregsdgf / October 26, 2010 at 07:56 am
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Will BlogTO post any positive twitter feeds for Rob Ford?
gregsdgf / October 26, 2010 at 07:56 am
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Will BlogTO post any positive twitter feeds for Rob Ford?
gregsdgf / October 26, 2010 at 07:56 am
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Will BlogTO post any positive twitter feeds for Rob Ford?
gregsdgf / October 26, 2010 at 07:56 am
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Will BlogTO post any positive twitter feeds for Rob Ford?
fn / October 26, 2010 at 08:17 am
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come on, can't we expect more for the mayor of Toronto? Out outgoing mayor was a Havard graduate for christ sake!!! This one didn't even finish. If he can even finish school how can he run our city? Wake up people!!!
gadfly / October 26, 2010 at 08:24 am
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[BLINK BLINK] Well, its the morning. The sun rose (behind some fog, by the looks of it.) The world is still here. I think it's still spinning.
Did I just read that the voter turn out hit 53%??? Only Niagara Falls came as close. I guess their trashing of Toronto had some resonance after all.
LIke it or not, Ford is the first Mayor in a very long time who has anything close to a mandate. Under Miller, we had about 34% of the city voting for him. Ford, it turns out, pretty much hit HALF. For municipal politics, that's pretty much walking on water.
I watched on TV last night as City interviewed two guys who looked about 30, with haircuts about 10 years too young for their age, being interviewed in Queen W (where else - will that area every grow up?)whine about the arts and basically predicted Armageddon.
Sigh. My best friend died from AIDS earlier this year. He's the same age as me: 49. He finally bought a condo - when his parents, who lived in Clarkson all their lives (gasp!) died and left him their house. He lived his entire life on tax support. Never sold a painting that I know of. He always lived downtown, as do I, and hated the suburbs, although he took their money when it suited him.
It's funny: the old city of Toronto hasn't changed much in the past 30 years. The suburbs have. They've gotten a lot worse. Traffic is awful, to be sure. Bicycle lanes and speed bumps have made things worse. Stacking 40 storey towers on top of each other hasn't helped. I don't like paying $134 for my license sticker, but wouldn't have objected IF it had gone to improving the roads. Instead, it would have gone to BIXI or some other half-fast idea.
As the poster before me said, socialists have to understand that if there is nobody left to pay for their lofty ideals, they will eventually starve. You have to get into your 30s and 40s to understand that. Some people, like those 2 guys on Queen W last night, and my friend Dave, never get it.
Sorry to those who think the world ended, but the city is $500M in the hole this year alone. Infrastructure has become a joke. It's time to start paying those bills.
Well, gotta go to work now. Can't take Jarvis anymore, so I'll have to leave '2 minutes' earlier. (what a joke) to get to my job and pass all the parked streetcars hiding on Church St.
Maybe if those 2 guys on Queen W last night ever went passed Roncesvalles or Pape, they'd get it.
blarg replying to a comment from fn / October 26, 2010 at 08:28 am
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Wow,

Way to be an elitist. So all of the peons now need a Harvard educated person to lead us? Its sad that a U.S educated person has to lead Torontonians...

Why are Miller/Smitherman supporters so superficial?
Philm replying to a comment from VoxClara / October 26, 2010 at 08:31 am
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Not voting is a form of voting. It is saying none of the above. None of these people speak for me. This is legit. Our views of democratic participation should not be so narrow as to say "no vote, no voice". As was often pointed out, people in the USSR voted, but they had no voice.
blarg replying to a comment from fn / October 26, 2010 at 08:31 am
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And you should take your own advice.

Smitherman only finished highschool. Wake up. You don't see a ton of Ford supporters trashing him for that.

bob / October 26, 2010 at 08:35 am
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Haha looks like the hippies forgot to vote - yes that was happening today!

I live downtown Toronto (ward 27)and I voted for Ford.

I'm upset that Wookey didn't win ward 27 however...
blarg replying to a comment from Philm / October 26, 2010 at 08:39 am
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That's just idiotic.

You don't vote. The system requires a vote to choose a winner. Way to participate in the democratic process.

All the people who fought for democracy fought to be HEARD.
mark / October 26, 2010 at 08:44 am
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haha. Suck it smitherman supporters!
blarg replying to a comment from fn / October 26, 2010 at 08:48 am
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And get your facts right. Rob Ford attended Carelton. Smitherman attended no where.
fn replying to a comment from blarg / October 26, 2010 at 08:49 am
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there's no way I would have voted for smitherman either. Just because I don't like Ford doesn't mean I liked smitherman.
I think my standards and expectations were way higher than most citizens of Toronto last night.
Philm replying to a comment from Rompinroni / October 26, 2010 at 09:01 am
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Good questions.

Question 1) yes, you are right, many subsidized arts event are far out of the reach of many people. But many are SUBSIDIZED, that is to say they are private venture that have managed to get some goby funding, and are therefore not obliged to be accessible to all people, only those that can and are willing to pay. Some times those places offer free days. Ie. The ago has free evenings. In the 70s and 80s The Ontario place forum was a great place to see free and great music. Because it was almost fully funded by the govt. After spending cuts, the forum became a private venue - molson amphetheater. Tickets are $70 on average.

Question 2) To continue the forum example. The forum was not designed to make a profit and be self supporting. It was mention to be a place for music for all people of Toronto. It was mention to be free. Teenage head, soap opera stars, the monkeys, muddy water, bb king , winton marsellis. They all played there. Any one of the shows could have been a big money maker. Instead they were free.

The ttc is way less subsidized than most subway systems in the world. Subway in pittsburg is 100% subsidized. And therefore 100% free. Subsidizing the transit system benefits everyone. Even public transit hating bike hating car loving conservatives. Imagine how wonderful things would be if everyone drove! Imagine the smog, the gridlock, the parking, the cost of gas. It's amazing how dumb people can be! If I loved my car as much as some of you do, I'd want everyone to be in the subway, so that I could have the roads to myself.

Q4) I don't know why the tml are subsidized. You are right. Who can afford to go to a game. Let's cut funding to this private business.

Q5) you are wrong. Private sector work of comparable worth often have high salary and benefits than public sector work. Which isn't to say that some public sector workers are not exploited and paid less for similar work. Should the point be to raise their salary.

Q6) yes tollroads are stupid. Tollroads are the result of right wing conservative govt.

blarg replying to a comment from fn / October 26, 2010 at 09:02 am
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If you weren't going to vote Smitherman then you have my respect. Whatever that means. If you voted Pantalone I can fully respect that because at least he represented a side. Smitherman represented nothing. Maybe himself.
KL / October 26, 2010 at 09:07 am
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I've been thinking. Perhaps Pantalone stayed in the race to block Smitherman and not Ford. I don't know. If Pantalone loves this city, and I believe him when he says he does, maybe he stayed in the race to block what he perceives to be a bigger problem. He's well-versed enough in politics that he would have known that dropping out of the race would put a lot of votes in Smitherman's camp.
blarg replying to a comment from Philm / October 26, 2010 at 09:11 am
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The ttc is way less subsidized than most subway systems in the world. Subway in pittsburg is 100% subsidized. And therefore 100% free. Subsidizing the transit system benefits everyone. Even public transit hating bike hating car loving conservatives. Imagine how wonderful things would be if everyone drove! Imagine the smog, the gridlock, the parking, the cost of gas. It's amazing how dumb people can be! If I loved my car as much as some of you do, I'd want everyone to be in the subway, so that I could have the roads to myself.
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HUGE misconception here. I voted for Ford. I want transit that WORKS. Ever been to Singapore? Their transit system is awesome. I walked 10 minutes to a stop, bought a pass card from their system, and went down to the bars without issue.

What do people get in Toronto? Unless you live near a subway station (like I do) you are screwed. I could care less. I live right beside a subway station and use it to get downtown. The rest of the people have to endure a crappy bus system that takes forever and covers no where.

Ever been to New York? I can get from New Jersey airport to Manhattan using public transportation in a decent time. Good luck doing that from Pearson.

We don't want to drive. We drive because we have to. Get that through your heads. Try walking a mile in our shoes elitists.
shannon / October 26, 2010 at 09:16 am
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Wasn't rob ford getting elected one of the warnings the Inca's had that the world is ending in 2012 rofl.
blarg replying to a comment from Philm / October 26, 2010 at 09:16 am
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Q5) you are wrong. Private sector work of comparable worth often have high salary and benefits than public sector work. Which isn't to say that some public sector workers are not exploited and paid less for similar work. Should the point be to raise their salary.
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Sorry to burst your bubble here. I saw an arborist job posted for the city of Toronto for 27 bucks an hour. You won't get that anyhwere. If you do, your a lucky duck.

Desktop support in IT? 60K+. You will never get 60K plus unless you work for big oil for desktop support.

Try living in the real world a little.
geokol / October 26, 2010 at 09:33 am
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What happened to name tags ?I think Smitherman should have tried that.
Philm replying to a comment from blarg / October 26, 2010 at 09:42 am
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It is you that is not listening.

I voted. But I do know people who did not vote. They did not vote because, as far as they were concerned, neither ford or smitherman or pantalonie offered any substantial change. While I may not agree with their position to not vote, I must respect and listen to what they are saying. These are people that are at the front line of many political dabates, they are actively, on a daily bases, participating in the democratic process. To limit democracy to a single day every four years is ...what was it you said....idiotic.
Anyone But Smitherman replying to a comment from blarg / October 26, 2010 at 09:49 am
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I know an opportunist when I see one, and Smitherman is one of those politicians who puts his finger up to feel where the wind is blowing. He was a disaster as health minister and would have been more so as mayor. Another example of his arrogance showed last night when he said it was his election to lose. The only thing he's entitled too is big slice of humble pie.
So long George. Good bye and good riddance.
blarg replying to a comment from Philm / October 26, 2010 at 09:49 am
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Actually no, the city of Toronto voted and the dissenters aren't listening:

Rob Ford E 383,501 47.1
George Smitherman 289,832 35.6
Joe Pantalone 95,482 11.7
Rocco Rossi 5,012 0.6
George Babula

That's pretty loud and clear what the majority wanted. That's sad that all the "non voters" had no one to voice their vision.. so many people, maybe half the city and not a single leader among them..
blarg replying to a comment from Philm / October 26, 2010 at 09:56 am
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Welcome to political reality. I apologize for all the working people who don't have time to vote EVERYDAY. That's why we elect officials to REPRESENT us.. or we hope to in anycase..

Nice try on being an intellectual elitist.. you got the elitist part right..
WhineyLiberals / October 26, 2010 at 10:02 am
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Lets face it. This election wasn't even close. 12% win when all the "experts" said it was going to be 1-5% difference.

BTW, I voted for Ford but his brother is a dunce. If Rob puts him or Mammoliti (another useless tool)in positions of any power I will be effin pissed.
Mike W replying to a comment from shannon / October 26, 2010 at 10:03 am
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The apocalypse angle has been mocked by Ford supporters pretty thoroughly; did you just laugh at your own lame joke?
A dubb / October 26, 2010 at 10:30 am
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It doesn't really matter what Ford wants to do or says he intends to do with the city. Without support of at least half of council, he has no say. I certainly DO NOT support him, and am not pleased with the result, but I don't see it as the end of the world for the city.
KL replying to a comment from WhineyLiberals / October 26, 2010 at 10:30 am
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I think it's funny that you think their appointments are a matter of "if" and not a fact of "absopositivelyfreakinglutely".
qwerty / October 26, 2010 at 10:44 am
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I can't believe more people didn't vote for Keith Cole for mayor. He was Canada's Worst Handyman.
Jesus / October 26, 2010 at 11:13 am
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They should do a cross section of Rob Fords votes vs Smithermans. Smithermans votes come from Soccer moms, University students, the unemployed and McGuilty supporters. Fords votes come from TAXPAYERS. The same fools who voted for Smitherman voted for McGuilty... Good Job twits.
mhj replying to a comment from sam / October 26, 2010 at 11:28 am
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I understand why you're so upset, it's because your life is art. If it is then just move to France or something and if you haven't noticed there is smog everyday and no amount of art is going to hide it. Obviously you don't actually work for the City of Toronto because then you would know how much they spend on useless things. Check out the Company called Invest Toronto and see how their lavish trips to other coutries "benifit" our city. Ignorance is bliss to you I guess.
Philm replying to a comment from blarg / October 26, 2010 at 11:46 am
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Yes it is sad. I'm aware of the results. But why is it so impossible for you to entertaint the possibility that 50% of the population rejected all of the options that were presented to them? Is it elitist of me to think that this is a possibility? Or is it better to simply believe that because they don't vote they are stupid or ignorant, and that people who vote are simply better people. I'm no intellectual, but that sounds pretty elitist to me.
Pimbocas / October 26, 2010 at 01:11 pm
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Suck it up People....Ford got a significant % of the vote even in the downtown wards. He is mayor of all, and the lefties on council better leanr to work with the new Sherriff in town....if the beatniks want to leave and go soemewhere else...go for it.
a dubb / October 26, 2010 at 01:21 pm
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I think I'm detecting a correlation between people who support Ford, and poor grammar skills... Just read the comments on this article - how many of the comments that support Ford are riddled with typos and grammatical errors?
shane replying to a comment from John S / October 26, 2010 at 01:31 pm
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have you been down st clair lately lots of empty store fronts and tons more smoggy traffic
blarg replying to a comment from Philm / October 26, 2010 at 03:59 pm
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"These are people that are at the front line of many political dabates, they are actively, on a daily bases, participating in the democratic process. To limit democracy to a single day every four years is ...what was it you said....idiotic."

I'm sorry we're all unfortunate idiots and can't participate in the democratic process on a daily basis but unfortunately all we have is this idiotic system where we vote every four years. I think they created it maybe because we're all busy trying to make money to pay the taxes that fund everything that everyone wants.

Its still idiotic that sitting at home and not voting for ONE of the FORTY candidates vying for mayor is a form of voting. I'm not sure who could represent these people. Maybe Jesus.

Its also idiotic that of all the days where participating in the democratic process matters they skip THE VOTING PART.

Nothing elitist about this. Just some common sense.
miss mac replying to a comment from nate / October 26, 2010 at 10:48 pm
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Lol, you totally took the words out of my mouth.
tdot dad replying to a comment from Seishin / October 27, 2010 at 04:07 am
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actually the real life peter griffin is michael mooore,the resemblance is remarkable
tdot dad replying to a comment from Philm / October 27, 2010 at 04:28 am
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with advance polls open weeks prior to election day ,there is alot more than just the one day to vote. i realize most people including myself wait till last few hours to vote but saying there is just 1 day to vote isn't entirely true.
although i don't mind some kind of mid term accountability vote or something like they have in california when they ousted their governer prior to arnold halfway thru his term, a mayor or any other elected official needs time to bring their vision to light.
CallieK replying to a comment from a dubb / October 27, 2010 at 09:01 am
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I noticed the same thing. I also notice a really vicious tendency to gloat and name call. Shades of things to come?

I can only surmise that Rob Ford's popularity is similar to the Sarah Palin phenomena in that "he's just like one of us" way. Problem with that is I'd rather not have someone like me running the city- I want someone a hell of a lot smarter!
jj / October 27, 2010 at 09:38 am
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k, someone's complaining about correct grammer n punctuation in a public forum and their name is spelt "a dubb"? really? shouldn't it be "A Dubb" if he's on his high horse complaining that his shit dont stink and that everything he does is perfect. those who live in glass houses... comical how a democratic election can bring so much fear and hate ,its ok its not the end of the world,too funny. take a deep breathe and life will go on,no plague will follow dec 1st, life's too short to beso hateful over an elected official especially at the rate of voter turn out and result.
Philm replying to a comment from tdot dad / October 27, 2010 at 10:35 am
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Look, what I'm saying is that our idea of democracy needs to be a little bigger than simply marking an x on a piece of paper every few years. Let's be creative about what we mean by participating in the democratic process. This little discussion started by someone saying "no vote, no right to complain". What I've been saying is that if someone chooses to participate in the democratic process by writing their city councillor once a week, but chooses to not vote, can you honestly say that that person has no right to complain? In my mind, that person is as engaged in the democratic proccess than the person who goes to the polls on their way home and scratches an x on paper. Not to say that this second person opinion or voice is less valuable. Yes, it would be nice if we could all engage in democracy on a daily bases. But , as has been pointed out, this is not always possible. I'm not saying that those who did not vote did so because they are all involved in daily democratic systems. But, rather, that we need to both ask ourselves why people don't vote, and to take their decision to not vote as significant. How many time have you heard someone say, "why vote. They are all the same". Or "I don't know enough about these guys to make a decision".

I simply refuse to be dismissive 50% of the population. It is elitist to dismiss them as idiots.
iSkyscraper / October 27, 2010 at 01:54 pm
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Guys, you're talking about how elected officials should best be chosen to represent their constituents, otherwise known as voting reform. Perfectly valid topic, extensively covered elsewhere. Read this piece (or the whole book) and then see what you think about future systems appropriate for Toronto:

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2010/07/26/100726crbo_books_gottlieb
gadfly / October 27, 2010 at 02:27 pm
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The trouble with democracy in our 'modern' world is that we are forced to vote 'either/or,' and not pick form a menu of topics. We are spoiled by going into a store and having 120, overpriced runners to choose from: we expect that in our elections, too. Especially the young 'uns. They get too much choice, so they expect the ideal candidate who will represent everything they agree with.
Uh, notgonnahappen.com. My first city election, I voted for Sewell. I couldn't stand him, I liked his politics even less, but he was the only one who stood up for the gays. Being gay and 18, who else would I have voted for?
30 years later, I am more conscious of how the city has slid into the toilet. Now that I make a lot of money and care about my career, I want to protect it. Although there is a lot about Ford not to like, I have learned that to vote on only one issue is not very realist and can be dangerous.
I would have voted for Smitherman, 30 years ago, just because he is gay. Now, I am more concerned about $$$, and Smitherman clearly is not.
Remember the old adage: "when you're young, if you don't vote liberal then you have no heart; when you are older, if you don't vote conservatively, then you have no brain."
Next to E=MC2, probably the most profound combination of letters ever.
Philm replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / October 27, 2010 at 04:00 pm
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Wasn't really talking about voting reform, which I agree is a valid topic, but this does bring up the issue of mandatory voting. While flawed, the Australian system of mandatory voting does allow for the counting of descent at the polls, in the form of spoiled ballot. Why don't we have have mandatory voting and include a "none of the above" choice on the ballot. Maybe we'd get a more interesting picture of what the population wants.
Philm replying to a comment from gadfly / October 27, 2010 at 04:07 pm
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I really don't think that, from a fiscal point of view, ford and smitherman were that different. The difference between them was one of style. Smitherman was more "liberal" and ford was more mean spirited and simplistic.
tdot dad replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / October 27, 2010 at 05:58 pm
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great link!
tdot dad replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / October 27, 2010 at 06:04 pm
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great link!
ao replying to a comment from blarg / October 28, 2010 at 12:10 am
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interesting blarg. even according to your numbers, the majority of voters did not vote for ford. they didn't vote together, that's true, but they still didn't vote for your man.
Mike W replying to a comment from ao / October 28, 2010 at 02:36 am
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Even less people voted for Pantalone and Smitherman, so Ford had the <i>smallest opposition</i>.
blarg replying to a comment from ao / October 28, 2010 at 09:06 am
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Technically yes most people voted all over the place but Rob Ford was able to gather a large enough group of supporters to win.

But if you consider the fact if Smitherman dropped out and those votes TRULY were for Smitherman and not strategic voting Pantalone would have lost by an incredible landslide. If Pantalone dropped out and his voters stayed behind him, then again Smitherman still was outvoted by 100,000 people.

Fantomex99 replying to a comment from Alex / October 30, 2010 at 04:41 am
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Boy, beliving in bullshit fairytales is your stock in trade, isn't it? Hope that they satisfiy you four years later.
Fantomex99 replying to a comment from Alex / October 30, 2010 at 04:54 am
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@Alex:

BTW, here's what's <i>really</i> going to happen to your fat, stupid white knight down the line:

Scenario 1 - Ford follows the Mel Lastman model. He quickly gets a couple of his pet issues through (ie: reducing councillors office budgets and getting rid of the vehicle registration tax) - then he goes "wobbly" (not hard since he clearly has no policies beyond the above), appoints councillors from across the ideological divide to executive and to head committees and keeps them busy - and basically Ford ends up as sort of a glad-handing mascot for the city while the real work of city government continues as usual.

Scenario 2 - Ford follows the Larry O'Brien model and tries to ram his people and policies down council's throat, makes no attempt to build any alliances and the result is that he turns the centre and the left against his and start losing vote after vote on issue after issue and becomes a virtual prisoner in his office.

Which will it be?
fouryearsoffordohmy / October 30, 2010 at 10:52 am
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Mandatory civics classes in school and an attitude greater civic engagement. Let's work toward an educated electorate and then if people still choose the simplicity of empty slogans, fine.
Greg replying to a comment from fouryearsoffordohmy / November 1, 2010 at 05:24 pm
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If you took mandatory civics classes like me, it wouldn't matter if you had one or 1000; they were garbage.
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