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CNE Air show 2010

Posted by Staff / September 6, 2010

CNE Air Show 2010Saturday's extreme weather caused the cancellation of the first day of the 2010 Canadian International Air Show after only one plane took flight for eager crowds. Show organizers were pleased to see a much calmer Sunday forecast, which meant that the pilots were able to take to the skies and strut their stuff.

CNE Air Show 2010This year's air show didn't have as diverse of a lineup as in previous years (2009 showcased the F-22 Raptor and the Blue Angels) but was still a thrill to watch from the ground. According to the CIAS, the number of "disruptive" aircraft displays has been reduced this year. I suspect this was to appease inhabitants in the city who have a disdain for the excitement and boom to the local economy created by the event, as these people likely complain about the Indy, the Entertainment Districts, all cultural parades, marathons, the Metric Concert at Union Station, and other events of scale expected in the downtown core.

CNE Air Show 2010Even with this reduced disruption, aircraft aficionados were able to cheer on their favorite planes. Some of the participants this year included the iconic Canadian Forces Snowbirds, the CF-18, heart-stopping stunt aerobatics by Mike Wiskus in his Pitts, the USAF F-16 Viper, the HMS Fredericton and even a special guest appearance by the Canadian C-17 Globemaster before it embarked on a mission to Afghanistan. Some spectators were lucky enough to see a few Bombadier Q400 planes take off from the Island Airport as well, but they were likely Porter Airline flights and not part of the show.

The 2010 show celebrates the centennial of the Canadian Navy, the centennial of women in aviation and the 61st anniversary of the Canadian International Airshow.

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show 2010

CNE Air Show

Writing and photography by David G. Tran. For descriptions of the planes, take a look at his Flickr page.

Discussion

77 Comments

David G. Tran / September 6, 2010 at 01:30 pm
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Note: the cute photo of the kids with the headphones was taken by Kate Hanneman
S / September 6, 2010 at 01:32 pm
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What's the carbon footprint emitted by these planes? The sound levels are still to high. I'm sure the air pollution levels went up, no thanks to these war machines.
Picard102 replying to a comment from S / September 6, 2010 at 01:44 pm
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whaaaaa
Vince / September 6, 2010 at 01:45 pm
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this is to "s" get a life, they fly them one day a year and youre worried about a carbon footprint, seriously find a tree and hug it you pacifist idiot, theyre not "war machines" today theyr just so ppl can watch, geez your bigger buzzkill than anyone i know...now please go die somewhere
Rob / September 6, 2010 at 02:11 pm
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Unfortunately the drivel posted by S isn't very original - check out the (Red)Star's commentary on why the Air Show should be canceled.
Malcolm replying to a comment from S / September 6, 2010 at 02:19 pm
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Blaargh! End the airshow! Blaarrgh! People take Airplanes and drive to Caribana! They should bike or walk from Cleveland! End Caribana! All those BBQ's grilling Jerk Chicken increase pollution! Meat is murder! Blaarrgh! I don't like something, so that something should be banned! Blaarrgh!
hal / September 6, 2010 at 02:30 pm
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To 'S' and Vince: Vince, while I understand your frustration level with the mis-appreciative comments put forth by 'S', I must suggest that the boundless love, and fondness some of us have for aviation and all things that fly, are unfortunately not shared, or understood by all. However, to 'S' please try and see the opportunity in the 'live' history and technology flying in front of you, and as Vince puts it "once a year" only. I hope you don't drive those massive SUV guzzlers for the rest of the year, while complaining about a short burst of pleasure for the rest of us...
seanm / September 6, 2010 at 03:27 pm
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Putting this out there before the whiners contingent of big babies takes over the comment boards: this event is once a year, and occupies all of 9 combined hours out of the weekend. Let those who enjoy aviation and technology have this one weekend; it's awfully selfish to wish that the show be cancelled.

The F-16 just flew over my house right now, and yes it was loud, but who cares. Thunderstorms are loud too. Put your maligned anti-airplane/war machine ideals aside and appreciate some fantastic machines. Or leave the city if it's really so irritating! I bet most of the population would not miss you.
Jacob / September 6, 2010 at 03:47 pm
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I read that idiotic Star article.

The Air Show is a display of military might? No, it's a display of awesome planes for people who would otherwise never get to see them!
Tee / September 6, 2010 at 04:25 pm
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Who gives a shit about a bunch of lame planes. Is your next stop a big truck event?
David G. Tran replying to a comment from Tee / September 6, 2010 at 04:31 pm
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Tee, you clearly didn't see how packed the downtown core was this weekend with spectators for the Air Show. That's who gives a shit about a bunch of lame planes. Millions of people. And sure, some people like trucks and will attend a truck event. I think they should be entitled to it, and I hope they'd have a good time. I may not like their taste in fun, but I sure won't be a stick in the mud because I don't share their same hobbies.
Teena / September 6, 2010 at 04:33 pm
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Love the airshow!

The Snowbirds just flew over my house on their way home. See ya next year!
Lt David Stevens, 116th Canadian Airborne / September 6, 2010 at 04:46 pm
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Thanks for the pictures and write-up! Missed it this weekend; maybe take out the p51 for 2011 if work doesn't get in the way. As for S, that's just a silly comment. Without these "war machines" you wouldn't be alive to complain, son.
Don / September 6, 2010 at 04:57 pm
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I want no part of the noise and macho bluster. I have not endured the hell of real war and the sounds associated. Many have. Many are trying to sleep. Perhaps though there is a Canadian Compromise. Let's see the work horse small planes of the north and the commuter craft in a 30 minute display. That's all. No bombers or fighter jets. I saw two air display crashes. Ridiculous waste of human life...for...a bloody carnival.
belvedere replying to a comment from S / September 6, 2010 at 05:06 pm
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what a weenie.
steve replying to a comment from Rob / September 6, 2010 at 05:15 pm
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maybe you failed to notice, but the article was written by an individual who writes bylines for the Star. It was not an editorial piece.

By referring to the Toronto Star as 'red' i assume you are implying it holds communist views. Does not communism stifle an individuals opinions and profess a single view like what you are trying to do.
Cobba Corn / September 6, 2010 at 05:57 pm
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I watched the air show for the first time last year and was absolutely amazed. I went again this year and was disappointed with how much duller it was. Reading this article I learned that my fellow Toronto cry-babies are the reason for the scaling back of the show (and no doubt the fewer sonic booms). Why is this city so aggressive about being boring? Jesus Christ, we can't have three days of a 4 hour airshow?

"...a Canadian Compromise. Let's see the work horse small planes of the north and the commuter craft in a 30 minute display."

How old are you? 100? So "Canadian compromise" is euphemism "the worst thing I've ever heard".
saltspring replying to a comment from Don / September 6, 2010 at 06:16 pm
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Gee, let me guess: besides being against air shows and anything that involves muscle, risk, or petroleum products, you don't want the MMA and you're married to a social worker named Pollyanna.
James / September 6, 2010 at 06:20 pm
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I don't have much of a problem with airshows, but it is a really pathetic location to have one. It is a lousy location for viewing and annoys the most people possible.
mr. hood / September 6, 2010 at 06:32 pm
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was on the island today, and the turnout there was great!

its funny that all the nay sayers never comment about how many people this brings into the city, puts people to work, brings millions of outside dollars in for toronto and toronto businesses that depend on it.

as mentioned above, some of these vintage warbirds helped keep the germans out of england, and helped keep our freedom as we as canadians know it today.. whether current military aircraft serve as deterents, or as vehicles of war, they are still awe inspiring to look at, and no doubt inspire young kids who attend the show to dream big.

the city and council will never get rid of this show as it brings in too much tax money for them..

i think the CIAS should add more louder aircraft or simply be able to do what they want and not be strangled by the same type of people who want the sound academy turned down, and the island airport shut down... as someone stated today, obviously these people have never run a business or use these services, therefore are biased against them..


ultimately if the airshow were to move to Trenton AFB or somewhere outside of the city, then you bet i would take my money and spend it there.
and if city council raised taxes because of lost revenue from the airshow in toronto being cancelled, then i would laugh at all those who wanted rid of it and say "you got your wish"

hal / September 6, 2010 at 06:36 pm
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Unlike most other public events, airshows cannot happen just anywhere. The show itself cannot take place directly over any type of populated environment, so normally they have to run over an airport or a body of open water, and Toronto offers both, the island airport and lake Ontario. It is also very convenient for folks to get to with public transportation or other means. ONCE A YEAR FOLKS - ONLY ONCE A YEAR!
Rachel / September 6, 2010 at 06:52 pm
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What bothers me about the air show is my mandatory attendance - unless I leave the city, there is no way for me to avoid its noise. It's kind of like when loud motorcycles rev their engines and zoom down the street; for a few moments, everyone on that street has to be quiet and acknowledge the motorcycles' presence for no reason other than they are being loud. Nothing was done to earn my respect or peace of mind.

When I first moved to Toronto it was the weekend of the air show and I honestly thought the city was attack. Like Don said, I came from a place that has been attacked and the thought of loud planes flying over a city was extremely frightening. It wasn't exactly the most welcoming experience, anyway. The loud noises make me cringe and torment me.

I don't care if it's only once a year and that the planes are really fucking cool, it's a big nuisance to those who are not enthusiasts.
AA / September 6, 2010 at 07:21 pm
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It's funny how S's comment is followed by a string of hateful, knee-jerk reactions. What a bunch of whiners!

I think Sideshow Bob on The Simpsons summed it up best:

"Air show? Buzz-cut Alabamians spewing coloured smoke from their whiz jets to the strains of 'Rock You Like A Hurricane'? What kind of countrified rube is still impressed by that?"
Piro21 / September 6, 2010 at 07:31 pm
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Last year: F-22, Blue Angels, an F-18 buzzing us at the CNE as we cheer, and all sorts of amazing planes and amazing pilots from all over North America.

This year: The organizers cave in to all these whiny idiots buying condos on the waterfront. Much fewer planes, but still amazing flying from all those involved. I suppose the same reason the airshow got downsized is the same reason we still have the shortest ferry ride in the world (literally, look it up, 58 seconds long!) instead of a proper bridge to the island airport.
Piro21 replying to a comment from Rachel / September 6, 2010 at 07:35 pm
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@ Rachel

We have three airports in the GTA, loud planes fly over the city every hour of every day. Helicopters too, especially over the downtown core because of the hospitals. Why did you choose to move here if you can't stand the noise?
Gilbert / September 6, 2010 at 07:43 pm
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Comment to Rachel: You are in a very big and busy city which is probably not the best place for you to settle down, if you are extremely frightened and tormented by loud noises. :)
Jacob replying to a comment from Rachel / September 6, 2010 at 08:04 pm
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People come here from all kinds of places and situations. Should we cancel or ban everything that makes them uncomfortable? If we do, we'll have the most boring city on earth.
Hmm replying to a comment from steve / September 6, 2010 at 08:19 pm
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By your logic are Red Tories communists?

The Star is consistently left wing on social issues with its emphasis on social justicse and crusading so there's nothing hyperbolic about calling it a "Red" paper any more than calling the Sun a "right wing" paper. Red hrere isn't communist, but quite left of centre.

As far as the airshow goes Jacob is right, it's just the fun police trying to get rid of yet another thing that makes this city interesting and unique. Screw that.
mr. hood replying to a comment from Rachel / September 6, 2010 at 08:21 pm
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rachel i respect your hesitancy to embrace one of the city's most attended events, and the reasons behind it.

perhaps living in a city that has hosted an airshow since 1946, should have been something to consider if you were choosing a city in canada.

i do think, to maybe attract a new audience, visitors form other countries, and new canadians, the CIAS should look into bringing more international talent and the commercial aspect of it.

perhaps maybe seeing an Emirates A380, or a boeing 787 dreamliner(a plane with green technology), red arrows from uk, eurofighter from the EU, maybe the ZERO that seems to be making the rounds at airshows other than toronto, a mig or a sukhoi from russia or china, bring more of a global feel into the show..

its tough for a static display to happen, but perhaps maybe a vintage display at the island airport(larger than just participating wings) would draw in(space it tight i know)..

also they could attract more people and run bigger festivities if they used hanlan's point beach as another CIAS vip area, or an area with extra seating, food tents, childrens areas etc.. they could change the flight line to cover the beach area and then bank left to cover main stage centre. the larger/faster jets do this already, and its a great way to see the planes closer than at the ex...

just food for thought
mr. hood replying to a comment from Rachel / September 6, 2010 at 08:24 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_International_Air_Show for more info
Tom / September 6, 2010 at 08:25 pm
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If you don't like the Air Show, don't attend. If enough people follow your lead, it'll stop. Until then, it's just another part of summer in a city that hosts major parades, a Jazz fest, automobile race, concerts, sporting events and street festivals. You can chose to attend these or not. The inconvenience (noise, crowds, etc) are dwarfed by the economic benefits generated for a city in great need of the revenue.
Alan Libman / September 6, 2010 at 08:36 pm
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I live in Parkdale and I have in the past complained about the Airshow. I've written letters of complaint to my MP, I've written to City Hall and I've written to the Ministry of Defense. I am extremely glad that this year the show has been scaled down. Strangely enough I consider myself neither a tree hug germ nor a communist nor a peacenick.

I've never complained about the Indy, Caribana, the CNE or any other event taking part on the waterfront - that's the deal when you live downtown and I am happy to suck it up a couple of weekends a year. So why the Airshow?

Two years ago we measured noise levels in our backyard, as jets performed low level u-turns over our densely populated neighborhood. We measured levels of up to 140db, which is loud enough to create almost instant hearing damage. Even short term exposure can and does create non repairable damage, especially in children and the elderly.

As far as I am concerned, that's not acceptable. This year's show was a vast improvement. Still noisy, but ok noisy. Keep it like that.
jennay / September 6, 2010 at 08:40 pm
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THESE PICTURES ARE THE COOLEST!
jennay / September 6, 2010 at 08:40 pm
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THESE PICTURES ARE THE COOLEST!
jenna / September 6, 2010 at 08:41 pm
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THESE PICTURES ARE THE COOLEST!
guess who / September 6, 2010 at 08:42 pm
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do you get my point?
ExPat / September 6, 2010 at 08:46 pm
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For that matter, why do we still have a "Santa Claus Parade?" I'm from a nation that doesn't celebrate Christmas and am offended by its presence. The red on white reminds me of blood and I'm sick to my stomach justthinking of it. It's time for the Santa Claus parade to go -- it just offends too many people who don't celebrate Christmas.
Badbhoy replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 6, 2010 at 10:59 pm
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You're the old man who sits on his porch and yells at kids to get off the lawn and turn down that damn rock n roll music aren't you?
Daniel replying to a comment from ExPat / September 6, 2010 at 10:59 pm
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dont even joke about that....i think it will be next on the star's hitlist.
moi replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 6, 2010 at 11:02 pm
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I live in Parkdale as well and was rather disappointed by this year's display. I love to sit in my garden on Labour Day weekend and watch the planes fly overhead. Sometimes it's almost as if I could reach up and touch them. I well and truly hope that next year's show will be much more like last years.

It's one of many events held every year in Toronto. The dates rarely change. Be it the Indy, Caribana, the Air Show, Jazz festivals, actually any kind of music festival (Wakestock should be brought back to the Toronto Islands), cultural fairs, you name it, I love them all. They add colour and excitement to the city and I'm pretty sure the majority of locals feel the same way I do.

If you don't like it, perhaps you should move out to suburbia or at least plan your summer vacations around the events you don't like. Anyone who moves to the downtown area should really do their research first. If these types of events are not for you, think twice before you move here and let the rest of us enjoy our urban environment.
Andrew / September 6, 2010 at 11:35 pm
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I didn't make it to the show this year because after reading the lineup early on I figure it was not worth it. I went in 2007 or 2008(I think), and I was very impressed by the show and I love the fact that you can see these birds flying above the Toronto, buzzing the Gardiner and you can see them flying formation over little Italy on rehersal. Now with the much reduced presence I had no interest in attending, especially now that I work elsewhere and no longer live in the City. I was in town this weekend but I didn't bother to drive down.

People who complain about all the events happening in Toronto and how it disrupts their lives, boo hoo. I live in Detroit area now, people have less and less event they can attend. The big races are gone, the downtown is a ghost town. My co-worker always love to say how nice it is to visit TO, how there are stuff to do and things to see. Funny how that looks on the inside. Maybe we should trade places....

PS to the Waterfront condo dwellers who complains about Indy/Airshow...blah blah. I want Toronto's old skyline back, one that you can actually see Skydome, as opposed to your condos blocking the view....
Eric26 replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 7, 2010 at 12:36 am
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Curse you, Alan Libman, for having a valid point about the noise level.
Jeff / September 7, 2010 at 01:09 am
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I am soooooooooooooooooo mad about this years show. Last year with the F22 etc etc was magic. The only thing better is if they got Mig's or Eurofighters etc. Right after the show, as a Air show "member" we got a flury of emails stating how local councilors etc were trying to shut them down. We all wrote them and expressed our love of the show.

Seems like the "s" of the world win again and ruin an amazing thing. People, the vast majority go to see the Jets. That is why my family comes to my house here in the middle of it all every year from Bancroft, London,Bowmanville etc.

Our weekend was planned with dinners, shows etc with the airshow as the big event. All that money went up north this year. No one is driving down too watch a jet or two.And then sit for ages to watch some WW2 trainers drone around the sky for ages.

It is people like s and others who take the fun out of life. It is one weekend!??!??!? Since the 40's??! Once again, a few loud mouth's ruin it for a majority. Oshawa had more jets in it's airshow a few years ago.

No matter how cool this city tries to be, some folks are hell bent on being mediocre.
Sheerluck Holmes / September 7, 2010 at 06:22 am
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FYI --- it was HMCS Fredericton in port, not HMS...Her Majesty's Canadian Ship, staffed by Canadian Naval personnel, flying Canadian colours.

PS --- great pics showcasing a great event...2011 -- more planes, more carbon-burning, more noise PLEASE !!!
Piro21 replying to a comment from Eric26 / September 7, 2010 at 06:37 am
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I've watched the Air Show for years now, ever since I was a teenager working at Ontario Place and watching from on top of the pods. My hearing is just as good as the day I started, thank you. I think something might be wrong with your testing equipment.
Torontoman / September 7, 2010 at 08:28 am
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Hi, I live in Toronto. I believe we are ignoring what is the actual problem here. Toronto, as a whole, emits much more a carbon footprint, much more noise & light pollution than any one airshow.

LET'S BAN TORONTO
ExPat / September 7, 2010 at 08:35 am
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The whole back and forth between Air Show Enthusiasts and those in opposition to it, to the (former) Indy, to the (joking) dig at the Santa Claus Parade, Caribana, Pride, Street Fests, Concerts etc ...

When people moved to Toronto, they didn't know they would encounter all of the above in this city? Nobody warned them about Toronto? Toronto's always had it all -- drivers, bikers, pedestrians, subway riders, etc. and somehow we all coexisted in the past. The Air Show has been around for decades, the noise and bustle and occasional "inconvenience" of city life has always been part of the fabric of this great city.

I no longer live in Toronto, but what I've come to miss about it is the "Live and let live" attitude ithad in the past. In all my years there I never recall a time where more people were trying to impose their lifestyle upon others so vehemently. This was Toronto, a city with 2 million stories, where everyone just did their own thing and lived how they wanted to live and as long as you didn't hurt anybody, nobody cared. Now, it seems, everyone wants to impose their beliefs or lifestyle on others. It's sad, as Toronto truly ranks as one of the great cities of the world, despite the naysayers. It would be nice to have the old Toronto back again.
Kay / September 7, 2010 at 09:04 am
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How appropriate. Everyone should now read this article on how Toronto can't say no http://bit.ly/by3qRU
Ratpick / September 7, 2010 at 09:10 am
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Ban the Air Show, I say. In its place, let's have girls with big ironic glasses and coke nostrils and bearded skinny-jeans "men" flying across the Parkdale sky on vintage bicycles.
barnsy replying to a comment from David G. Tran / September 7, 2010 at 10:47 am
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hey for all you haters of the air show get a life if it wasnt for those planes we would not live in a free country they protect us and all those brave men and women who fly those jets are sticking up for people like you so i would just sit and think for a second what you are saying. some of the pilots in the world come here to showcase there talents and do what they love for a crowd witch they otherwise dont get to do very often so suck it up for three days of the year and be apprecitive of those brave men and women.
terry / September 7, 2010 at 11:32 am
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Try Spell Check barnsy.
barnsy replying to a comment from terry / September 7, 2010 at 12:08 pm
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Hey Terry sorry about the spelling you must not like the air show if that is all you got out of my comment.
Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 7, 2010 at 12:37 pm
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@Piro21 "Why did you choose to move here if you can't stand the noise?"

I lived here before the Island Airport started taking jets. It invaded MY neighbourhood.
Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 7, 2010 at 12:45 pm
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@ExPat You know what? I don't like the Indy either...every surface of my home gets covered in brake dust. I don't really know why the noise of Caribana, Masala! Mehndi! Masti!, the numerous TFC games (oh yes! I can hear the cheers and jeers), music at Bandshell Park, the Festival of Fire, I could go on forever with a list of things that happen several hundred metres away from my home that contribute to the noise level - - The Air Show is the worst.

None of those other events knock items off my walls or rattle lamps until they fall over. The Air Show is completely terrifying. And it goes on for 4 days (on the Friday they do practice runs).
Snoopy replying to a comment from Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 7, 2010 at 12:48 pm
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Jet airplanes are banned from the airport, with the exception of Medevac flights. I know, those stupid sick people should just hurry up and die, right?
Eric26 replying to a comment from Piro21 / September 7, 2010 at 12:48 pm
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It wasn't my testing equipment, I just chose to believe that what Alan Libman said was possibly true. I have nothing against the air show (I live downtown and I slept through it this year, whoops), but if it was causing real hearing damage to people I imagine I would. Who knows what's true and what's simply whining though. I'm sure some people will say anything to get what they want.
Red Baron DIE DIE DIE replying to a comment from Snoopy / September 7, 2010 at 12:59 pm
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Like, OMG, they totes should!

It's like, you were seriously reading my mind!
Snoopy replying to a comment from Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 7, 2010 at 01:21 pm
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"It's like, you were seriously reading my mind!"

It wasn't hard.
Bob replying to a comment from Rachel / September 7, 2010 at 01:26 pm
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Hold the presses...you're right. I can't believe we, living in a big city, are forced to listen to loud noises generated by something we don't like. It's like that damn streetcar that rolls by my house multiple times a day. I don't take public transit so they should totally stop it. What right do people who actually enjoy and depend on the TTC have to use a route pass my house. Don't even get me started on those parents who bring their kids to the park with the kids crying non-stop. That completely ruins the enjoyment of my non-fat, double shot, soy venti latte at 87C with whipped cream and caramel swirl.
Steve / September 7, 2010 at 02:58 pm
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The airshow's been here since 1946. It isn't going anywhere. Don't like it then leave.
Go live in the 905 if you want quiet because a busy world class city isn't where you're going to find it morons.
keven replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 7, 2010 at 03:50 pm
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Jet plane (100 feet) 130 dB

Either your measuring device is broken or you're lying.
keven replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 7, 2010 at 03:53 pm
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to add: Any sound above 85 dB can cause hearing loss
Also, I hope you'ver never attended a rock concert in your life, they too reach db levels equal to or greater than a jet engine
Red Baron DIE DIE DIE replying to a comment from keven / September 7, 2010 at 04:21 pm
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http://www.deafness-and-hearingaids.net/2007/03/07/how-loud-is-too-loud-decibel-levels-of-common-sounds/

130dB is still nothing to shake a stick at...

Red Baron DIE DIE DIE replying to a comment from Snoopy / September 7, 2010 at 04:22 pm
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@Snoopy - It's so great to find someone who really understands that, deep in my heart, my not liking screaming jet engines is my way of saying I hope every sick and old person on earth dies.
keven replying to a comment from Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 7, 2010 at 04:40 pm
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140 decibels at 100 FEET. Important not to miss that.

Rock concerts have similiar decibel levels. Fireworks have similiar decible levels, etc etc.

You would also have to be exposed to 140db for about 30 seconds to have any possible damage, and considering how fast those planes are flying that is almost impossible unless it's hovering 100 FEET about your house.
mr. hood / September 7, 2010 at 04:53 pm
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these planes dont fly at 100 feet!!! (except maybe over water out in the showline)

i believe they have a minimum altitude(for travel over the city), of 600 feet...

the banter going back and forth is a good laugh! reality is the show will not be cancelled, just like the pride parade wont be cancelled, nor will the Santa clause parade be cancelled.
the amount of people that enjoy the airshow weekend far outweighs those who don't..

if this was really an issue, then someone would bring it up at the next mayoral debate!
Peter Lorraine / September 7, 2010 at 05:12 pm
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I hadn't been to the CNE air show since the mid 80's when I last lived in Toronto until this past weekend on Sunday. I was disappointed by how small the show was compared to past years - as small as the regional show at the Schenectady airport. The performances they did have were fine but with very long gaps between performances and relatively few aircraft the show was underwhelming. I had assumed the weather on Sunday was the issue - not that this was actually what they planned. Are you still allowed fireworks on Canada Day?
Snoopy replying to a comment from Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 7, 2010 at 05:14 pm
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These would be the screaming engines on the jets that *don't* use the Island Airport?
Kerry / September 7, 2010 at 05:46 pm
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I have read all these comments, some I agree with, aome I don't.
Where I am from, we recently had an airshow, and the one thing most people said was where was the jet noise. The jet noise is one of the things that draws people to the airshow.
Airshows are not just a lot of noise. The pilots are skilled atheletes. Most train daily, to get their bodies into shape to with stand the G-forces put strain on their bodies.
If I may, I would like to clear up some facts mentioned. - Jet aircraft are not allowed to go past .9 mach. If they broke the sound barrier especially in a place like Toronto. It would probably blow out half the windows in Downtown to Mimico. - Airshows in Canada are in most points are charitible fund raisers, the Snowbirds will not do a show that is for profit. - If you listened to most of the pilots or team announcers, one message was repeated ~ Thank-you to our Veterans. - Several years ago, I had a rare opportunity to visit two of our refugee camps for the Kosovos. Both of these locations were at military airbases. Both bases had airshows and some of these people came form compound and enjoyed the airshow. NB:in Canada we do not have AFB after the name of the base, this is an American designation, we have CFB before the name.
Yes, the jets are loud. But when did most of the people that have made comment about the noise move into the neighbourhood? It is like saying that the jets coming into Pearson are noisey. And people that complain are ones recently moved into the area. The airshow has been going for over 60 years, Pearson has been there for more than that. You have to expect the noise if you move into some neighbourhoods. But it is only for 4 hours, and 4 days. There are more important things in life than to complain. Yes, it may irratating to some, but it enjoyment for others. Who knows what people may say about the complainers. Maybe you may do something that is irratating to someone else. Another fact about airshows, at least in the US, They draw as many or more people than most sporting events.
Enough said on my part.
Kerry / September 7, 2010 at 06:12 pm
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I just want to make further comments:
I remember when the advertising slogan for Toronto was "Toronto the Good." And bumper sticker I once read from Germany "Military Jet Noise, the Sound of Freedom."
Aaron replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 7, 2010 at 08:08 pm
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@Alan Libman:
140dB what? dB(SPL)?
Sorry Alan, but your comment is nonsensical, as decibels are a unit of comparison. So, 140dB just means "16384 times louder". Louder than what? I can't say, because you're missing some key information. Check your equipment; chances are you meant to say dB(SPL) -- i.e. 16384 times louder than the quietest sound a human ear can perceive.
bri / September 8, 2010 at 03:48 pm
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Aviation history is absolutely fascinating. I love to be able to see history in the skies over my house! I love the airshow!!
Fantomex replying to a comment from Don / September 9, 2010 at 04:00 am
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Although I play a video game that's about air combat (<i>Tom Clancy's HAWX</i>),and get a guilty pleasure from it, I have to agree with those who want the air show gone-it's way too disruptive to life in Toronto. I'd rather see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek";>Starfleet</a> shuttlecraft flying in formation displays, instead-seeing the <i>USS Enterprise's</i> shuttles fly would give me a greater thrill.
Fantomex replying to a comment from Red Baron DIE DIE DIE / September 9, 2010 at 04:02 am
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What's with all the hate for Caribana, friend? Did it piss you off or something?
Fantomex replying to a comment from Rachel / September 9, 2010 at 04:10 am
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I completely agree with you, Rachel, and I wish that these people could see sense instead of being such obdurate assholes.
Rachel / September 9, 2010 at 10:01 pm
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There's a big difference between typical commercial flights to and from Pearson and war planes flying at lower levels making much louder noises.
Carl replying to a comment from Alan Libman / September 14, 2010 at 06:11 pm
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You live in a large city where you experience deafening noises all day. The airbrakes on a bus or truck can cause hearing loss if you stand next to them waiting to cross the street. I hate to tell you, but if you live in the big city, you will lose your hearing faster due to the ambient noise. Thunder is rather loud to and you experience it a lot more than the airshow.

The thing that's great about living in a diverse city is there's something for everyone. Of course, everyone won't be into whatever their neighbour likes, but you don't ruin it for them. It's very selfish to say the least.

You shouldn't focus on the military jets, but go and take a look at the aerobatic displays. You'll be in awe when you see those pilots perform. It's an aerial ballet.

To all those who want it banned, don't be selfish to the preferences of others. I've noticed that the people in the crowd come from all walks of life and all ages and their expressions are all the same. They love it. Why get rid of something that brings people together into Toronto to spend money? Suck it up for a few hours spread out over a few days. You can do it.

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