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Morning Brew: Guilty Verdict in Asian Angler Assaults, Waste Diversion Battle Brewing, Selling Crown Corporations?, Rocco Should Know Better, Mansion Blaze, Shooting Statistics

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / December 16, 2009

dog walking torontoPhoto: "Walking the Dog" by Todd Michael M., member of the blogTO Flickr pool.

What's happening in the GTA (and sometimes beyond):

While racism still no doubt exists, here in the big city most of us feel that our multicultural co-existence is something to be proud of and to celebrate. The same may or may not be true in some parts of rural Ontario, and a racially motivated assault case that just wrapped up has us wondering if it's still the 1940s in some parts. Guilty verdicts were delivered in a case that involved a violent, racially-motivated confrontation, throwing of Asian anglers into Lake Scugog (aka "nipper-tipping"), a fight, a car chase, and a crash resulting in a victim with brain damage.

If Toronto is to succeed in its ambitious waste diversion goals, we need residents and landlords of apartment buildings to share that ambition. But should levies be charged to landlords to account for failure by tenants to abide by recycling protocols? The Greater Toronto Apartment Association and the City of Toronto are likely going to have to settle the debate in the courts.

Should the Province of Ontario be selling Crown corporations to generate monies to help get out of severe debt? The LCBO, Hydro One, and Ontario Lottery & Gaming (OLG) are being considered. In my opinion, Ontario consumers would benefit immensely from the sale of the archaic retail monopoly that is the LCBO, and the bloated and scandal-ridden OLG could use a serious shakeup. But I'm still on the fence about privatization of power.

Newly announced Toronto mayoral candidate Rocco Rossi has gotten himself into trouble already. The Liberal Party (with which he is still employed) suspended his email account after he used it to send messages asking for support in his bid to become mayor. Does he not see this as a conflict of interest? In related news, Rossi is also allegedly hiding something sinister related to the number 23 (see embedded, outlandish, conspiracy nut video below):

As many as 70 firefighters were called to the scene of a 3-alarm blaze at a mansion in the York Mills and Bayview area last night. It'll be interesting to see the finer details of the story once the ash settles (there's an unconfirmed report that the home contained a weapons stash). I also wonder how much renters' insurance costs (and if the tenants had it!) for a swanky place that comes in at cool $6,500/month.

As we near the end of the year, and look with optimism at homicide stats, we also need to take note of the increase in the number of shootings Toronto has seen this year. Note that the number of incidents of gunfire in which no one was injured is way up, which may or may not be attributed to the increase in the sideways gun holding technique.

And in case you missed it yesterday, infamous bike thief Igor Kenk pleaded guilty was was sentenced to 30 months, most of which will be credited for time already served awaiting trial. Just punishment? Hmmm.

Hat tip to @goldsbie for Tweeting the Rossi video.

Discussion

55 Comments

Rob / December 16, 2009 at 09:15 am
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Instead of selling Crown Corporations right now, why not focus on things that can potentially save money in the long run such as combining our two education systems into one public system. By combining those systems and getting rid of the unions that have a stranglehold on them, this would leave more money to spend on students and potentially a better crop of teachers to teach them.

Also, instead of selling off OLG, why not open another casino in Toronto? Why not toll highways and bridges and use that revenue to create public transit alternatives?

I'm all for competition and not necessarily keeping Crown Corporations but why must it be that the municipal and the provincial governments cannot (or will not?) make the tough choices that are needed to straighten this province and city around? Yeah, it may not be the most popular thing to do and for some it's steeped in boring policy talk but this is our future here being thrown away because it's politically convenient.

Once that is done THEN we can look at the sphere of government control and determine what services gov't should and should not provide.
tballs / December 16, 2009 at 09:19 am
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Open a casino at Ontario Place. I have no idea why they are holding on to that waste of space.
Sean / December 16, 2009 at 09:22 am
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@Rob,

Good points. Ontario taxpayers must ensure forensic audits are done to each and every Crown Corporations, right down to each departments and employees. It's OUR money and there's still lots of waste going on, hence the huge debt. Remember, they serve US. That's why they're called public SERVANTS.
Jack S. / December 16, 2009 at 09:23 am
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Privatization doesn't necessarily equal deregulation or competition.

407 ETR anyone?

You don't sell off your assets to meet cash flow needs.
girlpublisher / December 16, 2009 at 09:28 am
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The shake-up OLG needs would not be aided by privatization. OLG has now been made more transparent because of the scandals, a move which was quick and easy to make because it is arm's length from government but not completely private.
Cam / December 16, 2009 at 09:33 am
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Bravo BlogTo, you had me in stitches this morning. Nothing like some good ol' humour to kick off hump day. I was definitely had my gun finger out pointing sideways practicing my aim
Rico replying to a comment from tballs / December 16, 2009 at 09:44 am
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You obviously have never spent any good time at Ontario Place. Casinos are for old ladies. Vegas is for losers. Go there instead. As for Crown corporations, sell them all, and open up competition. LCBO has been, and continues to be a huge waste. Nobody in government knows how to run a company properly, and they all think it's their right to control it, as they are special. The Ombudsman is one office that knows the truth.
mr hate / December 16, 2009 at 09:59 am
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tballs yo must not have kids. Ontario Place is jammed in the summer. The buildings on stilts are also used for crap all the time.

But yeah, a Casino down by Ontario Place would be good. It'd help the cab industry and make those useless Exhibition streetcars less useless.

The casino in Montreal is a pain in the ass to get to but of course people still spend 20 bucks on a cab to get there...
joey / December 16, 2009 at 10:04 am
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nipper tipping isn't something that happens in rural Ontario only, it happens in Toronto as well. as they pull everything out of the water regardless of wither or not its in season, 2 inches long or breeding. people don't nipper tip because its funny (which it is) its because they have no regard for fisheries practices.
Ryan L. replying to a comment from Rico / December 16, 2009 at 10:05 am
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I was under the impression that despite complaints about lack of competition, the LCBO is considered to be very well run.

I think selling off (profitable) crown corps should be only considered as a last ditch effort. The province only has so many sources of income, and getting rid of a few might bring in some money in the short term, it will only hurt the province in the long term when that initial payout is long gone and they are struggling to fund basic services.
RBeezy / December 16, 2009 at 10:06 am
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Don't sell off the Crown corps (407 anyone?), just run them like they were private.

Have defined bottom lines, eliminate patronage and legacy appointments to senior positions. Run leaner orgs.

Tightening up the RFP process was a good start. More transparency is needed but the Corwn agencies should remain as such.
George / December 16, 2009 at 10:10 am
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Sell off the LCBO?! So than the Anheuser-Busch InBev (Labatts) and Molson Coors could buy it and than have a complete monopoly over what liquor, wine and Beer is available to us, NO THANKS. I am happy that I can get a wide selection of GOOD beers from the LCBO and not be forced to buy from the Beer Stores self-serving selection.

If the province changes the regulations and opens it up to allow private and independant retailers to sell alcohol, than by all means get rid of the LCBO, but until than, I'll stick with the LCBO for my beer.
Rico / December 16, 2009 at 10:10 am
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It's not about how well the company is run. They are the only entrant in "the industry". No more business outside of what they do. It completely hinders all domestically produced alcohol. They don't get that. RBeezy, how do you plan to get any CC to become responsible? They're filled with people that just don't get it. Industry's are at stake because they think it's a frickin free ride.
J replying to a comment from joey / December 16, 2009 at 10:15 am
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Thanks for the racist, discriminatory comment. Much appreciated.
Rico replying to a comment from George / December 16, 2009 at 10:15 am
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No, no, no. They can't get a monopoly. You get a narrow selection of so-so beers from the LCBO. Believe me, there's a lot more going on than what what's available there. The Beer Store should be left to the big boys to run it into the ground. Legislation has to be taken away from them. Big brewers lobby the government to keep the LCBO. LCBO should go, and let Brewers Retail rot. Time for competition, just like the cell phone industry.
endthelcbo replying to a comment from George / December 16, 2009 at 10:16 am
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Wrong. Privatization is <a href="http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/consultations/basr/";>GOOD for Ontario</a>.
Ratpick / December 16, 2009 at 10:23 am
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McMansion blaze. Let's call it what it is.
George replying to a comment from endthelcbo / December 16, 2009 at 10:28 am
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I completely agree with that, like I said, if they change the regulations I am all for it... if they just sell off the LCBO without changing the regulations... that keeps the same problems, because it will either be bought by the BRI or some other large corp, and like the Beer Store, their selections will be based on their own interests.

Rico, you get a much narrower selection of beers from the Beer Store... I know how much more interesting things there are going on out there especially in the world of Craft Brewing (both local, provincial, national and international)... at least the LCBO makes an attempt to give some more interesting selections, unlike the Beer Store.
George / December 16, 2009 at 10:34 am
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... and by narrower selection at the Beer Store i dont mean amount... i mean you are not tied to (for the majority) by Molson, Labatts or Sleeman products at the LCBO like you are the Beer Store
mr hate / December 16, 2009 at 10:34 am
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The unwashed masses continue to shuffle in and buy their shit beer, unaware of all the wondrous beers out there because Labatt and Molson don't want you to be exposed to it.

At least the LCBO makes an attempt to cycle in a few interesting beers here and there, but it's still pathetic.

Rico replying to a comment from George / December 16, 2009 at 10:34 am
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Yes, George, I know. I'm a domestic brewer. The current two options are not options at all. The industry has performed 1/3 that of the US for that very reason. They can't do anything with the LCBO without changing anything. In fact, the way it stands now, there's huge change coming. LCBO will only be a single player in a multitude of options. They can't keep competition out and hand it over to foreign or domestic single player owners. We are not in the days of "at least they...". That term alone indicates the situation we have been in for so long.
TheVok / December 16, 2009 at 10:39 am
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Selling the LCBO would ... just maintain a liquor monopoly in Ontario.

Far more useful for citizens and government alike would be opening up that market for competition. Alberta's government makes more money off liquor now than when it ran the business itself.
Realist (mostly) / December 16, 2009 at 10:50 am
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I don't care if they sell the LCBO as long as they allow competition. Rico's entirely right. I moved to Toronto from Madison, WI (population roughly 200K). The selection of beer available at many grocery stores in Madison is as good or better than the selection at many or most LCBOs.
Rico replying to a comment from Realist (mostly) / December 16, 2009 at 10:54 am
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Canadian protectionism is alive and kicking. Thank your local politician (municipal, provincial, or federal) for being such a suck and not knowing much about business nor the economy.
thatguy replying to a comment from endthelcbo / December 16, 2009 at 11:12 am
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I remember listening to the radio everyone saying how great privatization will be for the 407.

I don't think so. Private priority is making a profit, public priority is making it work. I'll take that at the cost of efficiency.

There is lots of horror stories from around the world where private companies take over public roles.
Rico replying to a comment from thatguy / December 16, 2009 at 11:22 am
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The 407 is a completely different model than anything else. It was subsidized in order to have a working model of what the company did. Mismanagement is their current issue. No CC is ever run in order to serve the public (making it work). None of them work, and they take down huge opportunities where government shouldn't be in the first place. It kills innovation, stagnates the economy, and provides huge areas that consider mediocre work placement as the norm. There will always be examples of companies that are run terribly, but if they can't get it done, the contract can go to someone else. You don't have to sell the company outright, you privatize the delivery and put benchmarks on it. Everything else is profit for them. Public gets what they want, or what is defined as targets, and the company gets the opportunity to beat the spec and earn profit. Everybody wins.
Robert / December 16, 2009 at 11:23 am
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Every time our governments privatizes crown corporations, the citizens take it up the backside, sideways. A case in point is the giveaway of the 407 highway which cost Ontario taxpayers billions of dollars, yet was sold at a fire sale price that will continue to shaft us for 90 odd years. If, in their infinite wisdom, the bureaucratic nabobs languishing at Queens Park make the decision to sell, I hope, for our sake, they make deals that are of equal or better benefit for the citizens as they will no doubt be for the corporations that get them. As far as the LCBO is concerned, I pray we don't end up with shabby hold-up magnates, which blight the landscape in most states down south of the 49th parallel.
Rico / December 16, 2009 at 11:30 am
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Why does everybody see black and white on this issue? Your only two options are "leave it be" vs. "sell it to a large brewer"? That's it? Cmon folks, I have more faith in Torontonians. Use the noodle, think of options. Leave the narrow-mindedness to politicians.
mr hate / December 16, 2009 at 11:44 am
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Skydome

570 million f*cking dollars to build

sold to Rogers for 25 f*cking dollars

mr hate / December 16, 2009 at 11:51 am
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er, make that sold to ROgers for 25 f*king million dollars.

570 - 25 = 545 million dollar markdown.

So awesome
Serb / December 16, 2009 at 11:51 am
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Instead of selling all these corporations to come up with more money to fund all the newly hired bureaucrats and politicians in the City Hall (and around), why not go the other way - fire all those useless cunts instead, keep only the necessary positions around and cut down on the expenses right there and then. That move alone could save billions...
Ryan L. replying to a comment from Rico / December 16, 2009 at 11:51 am
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And do you have an idea of what options there are?

You could split the LCBO up, but it still wouldn't drastically reduce costs to the point where anyone except the super rich could afford to purchase them. Even dividing the LCBO into 6 would leave us with 100 or stores each, which would still require massive investment to buy.

Additionally, the capitol required to rebrand and renovate 100 stores would be enormous and you'd pay for it in the prices you pay for your wine and alcohol.

Another option is franchising individual locations, but in my experience, that always ends up for awful situations unless the franchisee is put under strict control of the brand owner (which would in theory still be the Ontario Government).

Compare a place like Subway or McDonalds which have strict control with someplace like Canadian Tire with lax control. I don't know anyone who doesn't have a few CT horror stories.

However, institute strict control and you'll start reducing the benefits, such as greater selection, better pricing, etc.
Rico replying to a comment from Ryan L. / December 16, 2009 at 11:59 am
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I most certainly do. In fact, part of my last degree was focussed in healthcare in Canada. You still think the only retail option for booze in Ontario is the LCBO. You haven't budged a bit. You really need to study the industry and domestic producers, and a whole range of other business models, until you can start thinking of some real options.
George replying to a comment from Rico / December 16, 2009 at 12:02 pm
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I dont think anyone is just seeing Black and white.

In the case of the LCBO, people are pointing out many different variables, no one is saying "leave it be" or "sell to a large brewer" are the ONLY options.... A number of peoples have said If they dont change the regulations along with it, than yeah options are pretty limited... cuz it would all depend on who has the money, resources to buy it and run it... enter the BRI.

And at the same time, people have pointed out some history of crown corps being sold to private companies and how that hasn't turned out great (and I think The Beer Store being the only private corp allowed to sell beer other than the gov is shit)

The only black and white thinking is when people just say privatization is the ONLY way... there is lots of grey areas in all the choices... as a number of people have pointed out, holding crown corps accountable is definitely RIGHT NOW, a step that is needed.
Mark Dowling / December 16, 2009 at 12:04 pm
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"why not focus on things that can potentially save money in the long run such as combining our two education systems into one public system."

You don't understand. Having a separate education system funded by the public is segregation unless the religion is Roman Catholic - then it's part of our historic fabric as a province. I know this because our Premier told us all that at the last election. When he told us that, it was <b>in no way</b> because like me Dalton is RC, his wife is a teacher at an RC school and that's the system his kids have gone through. Dalton is just the kind of guy that knows segregation when he sees it.
Rico replying to a comment from George / December 16, 2009 at 12:11 pm
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Before any plan is to be measured, changes have to come forward to open up competition. It's just purely unfair as it stands, and it is probably illegal if they looked hard enough, which isn't that much. The political system supports crooked ways like this, but that is nothing new. The options present after that are quite varied when things are allowed to flow like true business. The concept of "it" in your second sentence suggests that things haven't changed. The peeps that hold the wand will be getting an earful soon.
George replying to a comment from Rico / December 16, 2009 at 12:24 pm
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yeah I agree... but the point is, they are only considering selling the LCBO (and other corps)... there isn't talk of changing regulations to go along with that. So if they are just gonna sell without changing regulations and opening up competition, than I think that is a bad option for consumers in the long run (and i think that is the point most people are making, because it wouldnt open up competition). They should look at holding the corps accountable and making the management better, UNTIL they change the regulations and open up ACTUAL competition.

Rico replying to a comment from George / December 16, 2009 at 12:29 pm
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No, but they realize it's the easiest way to get out of this issue of LCBO either/or Beer Store. They know it's illegal, and it supports foreign owned breweries. So the natural thing happens, and they start getting people talking about options, and new legislation gets put into motion somehow. Yes it's backwards, but that change comes from pressure. Big mouths like me who bitch to the right people.
elmo replying to a comment from Rico / December 16, 2009 at 12:36 pm
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I think BC has it right. There are BC Liquor stores, run by the province, that are quite good but have limited hours and are closed on sunday. Then, there are privately owned cold beer and wine stores that can stock anything they want (including hard liquor) and can be open as late as 11 pm seven days a week. You get variety and competition, but you also get lots of government revenue
Rico replying to a comment from elmo / December 16, 2009 at 12:40 pm
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That's the model I see happening. Yes it will take strides in some big new legislation, and the big brewers will try to own that too, but they won't. They have no say in any of this, as they aren't ... Canadian. Heh. They can go hump their hat. If anything, domestic manufacturers should be given the right to have any precedence upon any retail situations.
Loïc replying to a comment from joey / December 16, 2009 at 12:46 pm
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thank you Joey for saying what others haven't said or have simply ignored. I've witnessed asian anglers not respecting legal fishing practices countless times. I've even seen white people get thrown in the water for doing the same thing. Anglers for the most part are good citizens, but we don't tolerate those who abuse those resources. They are poachers plain and simple, except with fishing lines.
Loïc replying to a comment from J / December 16, 2009 at 12:58 pm
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with all due respect j, there was nothing racist about what Joey said, it is what it is. I can assure you that it's not just asians who have been "nipper tipped" but anyone caught poaching fish. Barbara Hall (and now you) decided to play the race card and say that asians were specifically targetted. I'll throw you in the water if I see you poach, trust me and I dont care what color u are.
Mike W / December 16, 2009 at 01:04 pm
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Berwick wasn't even Asian and neither were most of his friends.

Middleton put a person in a wheelchair with brain damage. There's no doubt the redneck deserves worse than whatever he gets.

joey/Loic here deserve the same thing. If you really want to push for vigilantism you'll likely get it.
Mike W replying to a comment from Loïc / December 16, 2009 at 01:05 pm
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A true display of how uneducated some people really are.
Loïc / December 16, 2009 at 01:10 pm
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Im getting tired of being censured on BLOG TO, why does callign a spade a spade irk the editors so much? Whoever deletes posts should get a job at the online edition of the Globe and Mail. flush pls
James Dee / December 16, 2009 at 01:36 pm
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Mike W, nobody cares what you think
Mike W replying to a comment from James Dee / December 16, 2009 at 02:19 pm
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You obviously do.
Jennefer / December 16, 2009 at 05:25 pm
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Government would be insane to sell the LCBO, and consumers would be insane to let them.

The LCBO is the one of the largest purchasers of liquor in the world. Ontario has some of the lowest liquor prices in Canada as a result.

And the LCBO generates $2 billion annually that goes into the public purse to pay for all the stuff we increasingly take for granted - like, say, health care, roads, education, etc. etc. etc. (see www.lcbo.com/aboutlcbo/media_centre/quick_facts.shtml)

And there's good paying jobs at the LCBO. What, instead we should give it away to profiteers that will pay staff minimum wage while taking the majority of the loot for themselves?

Selling off the LCBO would be a bonehead move. Just say no.
Rico replying to a comment from Jennefer / December 16, 2009 at 05:43 pm
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Correction #1: LCBO is THE single largest purchaser of alcohol in the world. Correction #2: If that model was such a good idea, many more would be adopting it. It isn't. Correction #3: They get no discount because of their position. They also are not supposed to get any kick-backs either, but it has been proven that they do. Correction #3: $2b that has open access by LCBO to mis-spend on internal affairs, such as their print marketing (nowhere do you mention anything about that), and salaries. $2b potential in sales that's taken out of the Ontario economy. Correction #4: I've worked at the LCBO. Taking bottles from a box to put them on a shelf does not justify $26/hour, and that pay was >20 years ago, part time. Correction #5: profit is why people invest into companies. Companies that deliver much better service than any government has ever delivered. Companies that form the backbone of the economy...perhaps you might want to look that up. It's pretty big news these days. And finally, Correction #6: Selling the LCBO and completely changing the illegal legislation in Ontario would bring Ontario up to date with every other province/territory in Canada, and every state in the US. If you want to save money, optimize the services that the government mismanages elsewhere...healthcare, roads, education, etc. etc. etc. You don't steal industries away from the citizens in order to pay for government. Government should not be used as an employment tool.
Jennefer replying to a comment from Rico / December 16, 2009 at 06:26 pm
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Hey Rico. You can hold your neoconservative anti-government views if you want to. They still make no sense. (Just like your brilliant phrase "illegal legislation".) Why shouldn't government be used as an employment tool? Capitalism's drive for profit necessarily results in low wages. And don't tell me that "the market is self regulating" on wages because that's crap - the only thing that has ever driven wages up is collective organizing and wage regulation (that dreaded "government intervention in the economy"). You might want to look THAT up. And where does "service" come into the equation here? Ever had to deal with Rogers or Bell or Highway 407 or any other of the hundreds of other private companies that treat their customers like dirt? The market isn't self-regulating there either - you're raising a red herring, my friend. "Stealing industries away from the citizens" sounds like libertarian claptrap to me - what do you think government is, if it's not a collective of citizens? And anyway, I like the LCBO's print marketing. Those Food & Drink magazines sure are yummy.
Rico replying to a comment from Jennefer / December 16, 2009 at 06:34 pm
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Um, perhaps you should get some education in ... well, so many aspects of this. The role of government isn't to employ people. It's to serve the people of the province, not overpay zero's to sit on their ass. Capitalism is the very basis of our economy. Competition is what gives us an economy. Communism is what you vote for. Not a single working model of that anywhere...anytime. Unions are 100% bullshit selfish entities for losers that never did anything with their lives, and admit they have an agenda at stealing as much as they can, or extort it from the bodies that employ them. You don't have to choose Rogers. In fact, you don't have to use any of the other companies either. You obviously completely miss that. You don't like their kak? Then don't buy it. They owe you nothing. But since you are a union member, you obviously think the world owes you something. Newsflash: they don't. Government has rarely been a collection of citizens. It's a scapegoat for the unemployed, the dumb, and the useless. Read the news, it's jam packed of government failures, on a daily basis. Food & Drink prices are NOT aligned with anybody else in the magazine industry. Failure yet again. You like it? You pay for it. Not me. THAT is how business works. Like I said, get with it.
turdsnot / December 16, 2009 at 09:32 pm
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The 407 was sold for 1, and was immediately valued at 3 afterwards.

I see the same thing happening with the LCBO or OLG, they will never get fair value.

The sell off will still create a monopoly, nothing will change other than the fact that the LCBO will no longer be publicly owned.
Jennefer replying to a comment from Rico / December 17, 2009 at 12:29 am
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Oh, dear, sweet, misguided Rico. You have no idea who I am or what organizations I do or don't belong to, and you clearly have no desire to have an intelligent debate about the important issues facing society. (Right. There is no such thing as society - Margaret Thatcher told me so.) And oh, if your house burns down, don't call the fire department. They're clearly not your cup of tea. If you or your family members get the swine flu, don't go to a government-paid doctor. Clearly, the market will take care of you. Have a nice time in libertarian land.
Rico replying to a comment from Jennefer / December 17, 2009 at 03:28 pm
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You obviously don't work for LCBO, nor do you have any experience in the industry. Oh, and with regards to healthcare, I have way more training that you could possibly imagine. I know how it works and it's a failing system. I know you tout these lovely freebies, but they are not those. While they are in place, and I believe in them, they do have to be run properly. They are peppered with failures everywhere. And yes, I do have a paid alternative, as a friend of mine runs a very successful, profitable alternative. I wonder how that happened. Hmmm. I wonder how in the world of "free" that he seems to have a thriving market. Because the "free" ain't so great after all.
Averharache / December 22, 2009 at 07:53 am
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I think you are right. But you should cover more on this topic.

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