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Toronto Drivers' Top 10 Complaints
Toronto traffic safety officer Tim Burrows asked drivers to send him a list of driving behaviour that drove them nuts. Although wandering deer didn't make the list, most of the usual suspects -- like misbehaving cyclists and slow drivers -- made the top ten.
Here's the complete list (in reverse order), as released by Burrows earlier today:
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A couple of weeks ago, I asked Toronto via Twitter and Facebook, "Hey Toronto. What's your biggest pet peeve about other road users? Let me know. I'll be writing about it." Well, here are the results. I'm not surprised by any of the responses. Hey, I'm a driver too and what upsets me are the same things that upset you. What did surprise me was the order of the responses.
#10 - Slow drivers
I don't agree but it is your list. This wasn't laid out as drivers who are in the passing lanes too slow, just slow drivers in general. Maybe it's not that they are too slow - maybe you are too fast.
#9 - Slower-moving vehicles that pull into your lane
Often the driver looks only at the immediate space around them and not at the big picture of time zones and space.
#8 - Late left-turn signals
Argh!! Drives me nuts, too. Inconsiderate and by not communicating soon enough can really destroy traffic flow. If you would have let me know what you were doing, I wouldn't be stuck behind you now.
#7 - Distracted drivers
Quickly becoming the norm for serious risks to public safety. 27 times increased risk in collision. By the way...hands-free does not mean you are minimizing the distraction. It only means you are complying with the law. You are still distracted.
#6 - Cyclists who disobey the Highway Traffic Act
Only because this is your list did I include it. All of the responses have a degree of lawlessness to them but there were enough responses that specifically said cyclists, I had to include it here.
#5 - Left-lane bandits
Most people think this is reserved for the expressways and freeways, but any time there are multiple lanes you can see this happen. The order of populating lanes is from the right to the left and you only use the left lane for passing...pass over, return to the right.
#4 - Unsafe lane changes
These are horrible for so many reasons. The actions of unsafe lane changes can have a domino affect with other drivers over-reacting and causing further problems.
#3 - Follow too closely
Who doesn't get this? You are too close, vehicle in front stops, you can't stop in the space you left...problem. These are the laws of physics explained so simply anyone can get it.
#2 - Lane cutters
This came in most described as the drivers who leave the curb lane on an expressway, jump on an entrance ramp, and pass cars just to cram themselves back into the curb lane again. Illegal, rude, inconsiderate and for what...to pass four or five cars...wow, you got so much further ahead.
#1 - No signals
By a landslide! No wonder. Take a look and see how many people don't use their signals. What is very disturbing about this offence is that you can't fail to use your signal and not be causing a potential problem. Turn? Need to tell people about it. Lane change? Have to communicate with everyone.
(Here are honourable mentions that didn't make the Top 10: Fail to clear intersections, quick-stoppers, late mergers, left on amber/red, fail to assist in passing, fail to lower high beams.)
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As much sense as all the entries on the list make, I can't help but think that they're a little predictable -- and perhaps a bit too general. "Distracted drivers," for instance, seems to beg for further explication. Cell phone use? Mired in conversation? Sexual activity?
Have a specific traffic incident that you need to purge via talk therapy? Or, perhaps there's something that annoys you that didn't make Burrows list?
The comment thread is open.
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SHITBAGS WHO CAUSE GRIDLOCK
SHITBAG CYCLISTS WHO SEE ME SIGNALING A RIGHT TURN BUT THEY STAY ON MY RIGHT INSTEAD OF GOING LEFT AND AROUND ME AND THEN THEY DING DING DING THEIR STUPID BELL AT ME
SHITBAGS ON EASTBOUND LAKESHORE A FEW BLOCKS EAST OF SPADINA WHO DRIVE IN THE MIDDLE LANE THEN SUDDENLY CUT IN TO GET ON THE GARDINER ON RAMP WHICH MAKES ALL OF US LAW ABIDERS HAVE TO JAM ON OUR BRAKES
As a pedestrian, someone pulled a #1/#7 combo on me in the form of a Blackberry-blind left turn to within a foot of my legs while I was crossing a side-street near my apartment this morning. Luckily her window was open a crack and she heard me shouting. She didn't even look surprised, let alone shaken, when she looked up after stomping on the breaks... why should she be shaken, cars are just so nice and safe and cozy.
How about people who make right turns on red without looking around? I see people do this all the time even when traffic making a left into that lane has a green arrow. I also see drivers do this when pedestrians have right of way.
Also people who turn right as quickly as possible when the light turns green to beat the pedestrians. Sorry you gotta share the road, but somebody's gonna get killed.
Hey I wanna park there in that spot up there on my right I signaled before I got to the spot and I'm now in front of the spot still signaling that I wanna back up and park there okay? Okay, then why did you drive up my ass? And now you honk at me like you're not the asshole?
#elevendyseven - People who think that saving five seconds here and there is worth risking death and dismemberment (theirs or, more often, someone else's).
I wasn't sitting there for fun. I was trying to avoid that ticket for causing gridlock that you should be getting right now...not to mention all the dirty looks from the pedestrians who are trying to use the crosswalk you're currently blocking.
+ Mandatory driving school
- Driving school DRIVING fulfillment requirements need to be MUCH higher
- Needs to be easily at minimum 60 hours of in-car lessons vs. the measly and paltry 10 hour minimum
+ Police need to ticket for dangerous and accident-causing offences, not the most revenue generating offences
- Not signaling is way more dangerous than speeding will ever be
- Left lane bandits require people to make dangerous passing maneuvers to get past, therefore creating a more dangerous situation overall
- Keeping high beams on in both the daytime and the dark HURTS other drivers eyes, not to mention taking their concentration off the road and blinding them for an instant
+ Proper signage and intersection usage
- Roundabouts instead of red lights
- Yield signs instead of stop signs
- Like in Montreal, if there is any limitation on the direction of travel at an intersection, have a sign telling you which directions you are ALLOWED to travel in, not which directions you are NOT allowed to travel in; place that sign *right next* to the light (below, beside, above), rather than at random spots in the intersection so drivers have to play I Spy to find the signs
+ And finally, for highways, increase speed limits
- Our highways are designed so you can SAFELY do at minimum 120 if not 130, and 95% of the population does that speed on an empty highway regardless
- That way, if someone is doing 150, the difference in speed is not that great, reducing the amount of damage in the event of a collision
I have more say about this topic, I just can't remember. lol
Especially ones who move into the curb lane and pass someone who HAS stopped.
-Vic De Zen
I think it's safe to assume that less than all of the cyclists struck by cars in Toronto were themselves at fault.
This year I have personally witnessed at least six cyclists run over by cars (one SUV, on taxi) where the cyclist was in no way at fault. In the same time, I can remember seeing only one car-cyclist collision where the cyclist was not "follow[ing] the rules of the road", although of course there were plenty of near misses (as with any vehicles -- cycle, auto, or otherwise).
Majority Toronto cyclists are horrible.
Both refuse to change their behaviour.
More boom boom crash will happen.
The end.
But like Mr. Hate posted...bad drivers, bad cyclists. But with everyone trying to catch onto the "green" fad, bad cyclists are bound increase.
Just sayin'.
On Eglington or Lawrence into the Allen I will fully let someone who signals and waits patiently for a spot as long as they're not a right lane charger.
Frankly I find it's 1/10 times someone will prevent you from merging.
And on the left lane in the city, you can't realistically expect it to be empty in below-speed-limit traffic.
Look at it this way. The construction zones are needed in those areas, you are not.
All hearsay.
Everyone will have their story.
And what is IT anyways?
"It is what it is" is a ridiculous saying, think for a minute please.
Anecdotes can't justify statistics.
Merging etiquette. When merging, cars should always go to the end of the merge and when the lane starts ending the main flow cars should alternate in merge entry if there is a back up.
Running yellow or red and not allowing left turners time to turn. This is getting worse every year goes by and congestion and impatience increase. Needs more enforcement because there are a lot of people running the red and messing up the flow.
I can't even count the number of times I've seen cabs dart across multiple lanes to slam on breaks at the curb, pull dangerous u-turns on busy streets, speed up and slow down erratically and unpredictably, weave in and out of parked cars, and drive over curbs while pedestrians are present, blast off the line at a green light and pass you just to double park and block all traffic - all in the hope of snagging a fare!
What vultures! I refuse to take cabs in this city because I can't stomach the idea of paying someone who has potentially acted so consistently dangerous.
Yeah, there are probably saint-like cab drivers out there. But they're few and far between from what I've seen. Most are ignorant chumps who think they own the road. Just because you drive for a living doesn't give you the right to drive like that.
I would like to add to the list, however. My #1 pet peeve is not even cars; it's pedestrians who walk out into traffic without even looking to see if anything is coming towards them! If you don't even bother to look, I am seriously going to start running you over.
So, I know it has been mentioned, but I have to add my own rant... it drives me bananas when drivers think it is ok to sneak up as far as they can go on the right lane and then squeeze in to the left when all the rest of the left lane drivers have been sitting and waiting their turn to move. It slows everyone else down and is incredibly selfish. Just get in the lane you need to be in AHEAD OF TIME. And if you wonder why people aren't being nice and letting you in, think about what you are trying to do.
Fact is, both of us - and let's not forget the only difference between a driver and a cyclist is the things we're in/on while moving - need to know the HTA. Far too often am I told by a driver while I'm riding a bike about an interesting, completely nonsensical and false "fact" about the HTA. And the same by cyclists when I'm driving.
And let's add to that, simple communication. I can't tell you how many times I've been run into by a cyclist I'm making eye contact with - both on my bike stopped and crossing on foot.
After all, we're all just people moving about our lives.
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Stupid cyclists who think they are cars and drive ON the road.
You can't drive others cars for them , you can only be careful and mindful of bike riders regardless if some of them are disopeying the laws , you don't want a death on your concience. street cars are here to stay , get used to them and realize that if all those people decided to drive cars who are riding the TTC you would have grid lock 24/7. pointless bitching about what other drivers are doing YOU be sure that you drive right and yes road construction has ot be done , nothing you can do about that except deal with it and go with the flow.