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Are Robarts Library Fees an Unfair Financial Burden on Graduate Students?

Posted by Debbie Pacheco / October 13, 2009

robarts library feesThe public should have access to publicly funded institutions. It's a novel idea, I know.

Too bad the University of Toronto is slow on the uptake. Instead of expanding who can use the third largest academic library in North America, the university went and shrunk the pool.

UofT just extended the $200 yearly fee it charges the public to graduate students from other universities who want to directly borrow materials from Robarts. This flies in the face of an understanding between Canadian universities that, for the sake of research excellence, they allow graduate students to access all university libraries. Robarts in particular has an extensive and rare collection of resources.

Cheryl Misak, the University of Toronto's provost, says the current "unhappy budget situation" with a deficit in the millions prompted the fee, but that the university was already talking about different ways to increase revenue for Robarts.

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I'm not the only miffed grad. Student unions and graduate departments from various universities wrote letters of disapproval to UofT and are planning collective actions against the move in the coming weeks.

Ryerson Student Union president Jermaine Bagnall says the $200 fee locks out many graduate students from a publicly-funded resource. He says it's an unfair burden on students already facing rising tuition fees and deflating grants.

Misak also brought up the issue of fairness when defending the fees. Misak says Robarts isn't unusual from other libraries in getting public dollars for capital funding. But she says acquisition funds come from student tuition fees and only involve public dollars in so far as each student head garners some government money. They don't get extra funds to buy books for external borrowers.

"We really have our students, through their fees, subsidizing the students and faculty of other universities... and that's not the most fair or sustainable way of maintaining this great resource," says Misak.

I can also argue I'm subsidizing UofT and their students' education by helping pay for the university's infrastructure. Shouldn't we have access to books if we help pay for the building they're housed in? Just last year the Ontario government announced a $15 million contribution to help upgrade the brutalist structure on St. George Street.

Misak mentioned that Ryerson University decided to pay the $200 fee on behalf of their students, based on the number of those who directly borrowed from Robarts last year. I asked how much extra money this brings in. With only 400 Ryerson direct borrowers, that totals $80,000 for the library.

Nathan Cecckin is a second year PhD history student who uses Robarts for his studies. He's also York University's Graduate Student Association president. Cecckin says the number of external borrowers isn't that large and the $200 fee is a symbolic gesture that isn't worth the controversy.

"It's not even a drop in the bucket of their several million dollar shortfall," says Cecckin

It's definitely not a big payback for making enemies out of potential allies. Both students and universities are natural comrades in fighting for increased investment in post secondary education.

UofT doesn't get this concept either. Misak says the university is also looking to implement a fee for simply visiting the stacks, but doesn't know what that will look like yet.

Photos by tianxiaozhang and hyfen

Discussion

34 Comments

R / October 13, 2009 at 09:52 am
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Faculty from other institutions are also being charged fees now
Darcy McGee / October 13, 2009 at 10:15 am
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Read this month's Walrus about the cuts in education funding.

I'm not saying this justifies this particular fee (which probably amounts to pennies in revenue for the university) but that a thousand long cuts leads to a thousand tiny seemingly inane fees should surprise no one.
T.dork / October 13, 2009 at 10:15 am
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A charge just to visit stacks? UofT has the best collections in Toronto, and likely Ontario. This is an unfortunate situation. On more than one occasion I've had to go to UofT and dig out some dusty paper for my work. A charge would have certainly kept me away.
Jer / October 13, 2009 at 10:19 am
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One more reason that Google Books needs to get cracking and get all books scanned and online so these medieval fortresses of paper knowledge can be free and accessible anytime...
Amanda / October 13, 2009 at 10:21 am
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I don't want to say that information shouldn't be public, but the fact is universities are private institutions. Yes, they get government subsidies but its by student attending the U of T, just as Ryerson gets subsidies in proportion to the students attending Ryerson. Why should U of T incur the cost of keeping a library for both when it only gets the subsidy for one? It makes sense that Ryerson should transfer funds from their subsidies to U of T if their students are using U of T's resources....

I have to admit, I only know what I've read here, so I'm no expert, that's just how it appears to me until further information is presented.
Miffed librarian / October 13, 2009 at 10:47 am
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As a librarian, I cannot support this fee. It is completely contradictory to the agreements among academic libraries to share information for the greater good. At this point, we (we being academic libraries) all agree that we don't each need to have a physical copy of every book ever published. That sort of collection is no longer feasible. This is why we should be (and have been) working to identify who has unique collections, and work together to ensure that the academic community has access to them. U of T has thumbed its nose at this notion, and it's not sitting well with the majority. Robarts has one of the most extensive research collections in the world. Other libraries have created collection development policies with that in mind -- we cannot (really - we can't - most of it is simply unavailable) replicate their collections, nor should we have to because of aforementioned public funding models.

Two things strike me as I have been following the media coverage of this new fee structure. One - the insistence on mentioning the $15m they got for building improvement. This money has no effect whatsoever on their acquisitions budget. Just sayin. Two: the notion that U of T receives no extra money to support external borrowers. This is BUNK. Universities are funded by the administration based on the numbers and levels of study of their students. A smaller university gets less money, and a university with more students and more grad students gets the lion's share. Which category do you reckon U of T fits into? The problem is that they have decentralized their budgets and required each faculty and department to create a cost recovery system to keep themselves in the black. A pretty crap way to run a university, if you ask me -- given that not too many of them are in the "biz" for profit, and that they are now trying to make up for some really poor investment decisions from the past.

Finally, the damage that they have done to their reputation FAR exceeds any money they will actually collect from this new policy. All this will create is more reliance on your friend's brother's cousin who goes to U of T. It's a big place -- and chances are you know someone who knows someone else with access to their collection. They'll be lucky to rake in $400K in a year. For a library with a $24m acquisitions budget, that's a drop in the bucket. All they'll be dong with that money is trying to hire more interlibrary loan staff to accommodate the massive increase in borrowing requests that could have been avoided if they would just allow people to directly borrow themselves.

And, one last thing -- they've backed off on the stack browsing pass. Geez ... thanks.
Miffed librarian / October 13, 2009 at 10:48 am
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FYI - i had separated that comment into paragraphs. apologies for the block of angry rant text there.
Vivian / October 13, 2009 at 10:51 am
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I feel that if U of T says this is what they need, this is what they need. I don't think it's apart of a cruel plot to revoke education and resources from grad students.
Why do we want to demonize a private institution for their policies that are put in place to help prevent larger more costly fees in the future?
There's an ongoing attempt from UofT to raise those funds, raising student fees was one of them. Well, times are quickly changing, costs are going up and in order to maintain services fees must as well.

So ridiculous to have Nathan Cecckin (a second year PhD history student) to comment on whether or not the funds have any impact. Who is he? He is neither administration, nor anyone who would have a clue what the importance of those funds are.

Glad you raised awareness, but don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. really now.
DS / October 13, 2009 at 10:58 am
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Life is so unfair sometimes.
Some guy replying to a comment from Vivian / October 13, 2009 at 11:13 am
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Excuse me if I am wrong, but Universities are PUBLIC institutions.
cocoa / October 13, 2009 at 11:32 am
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I agree with McGee, the article on education and healthcare in The Walrus this month (they even made a <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/6984408";>video preview</a> for it) is worth reading.

Something is certainly wrong. U of T's decision to charge part-time students full-time fees was a much more severe example of the same sort of thing.
mark. / October 13, 2009 at 12:45 pm
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This decision affects me directly. I am a grad student at another Ontario uni, I live in Toronto because it's essential to my research and thus need to use UofT's libraries. I had been borrowing for the last year or so and this fee came as a total surprise when I read it in a local paper. No noitice, no email.

Philosophically (or ideologically!), I think libraries should be available to anyone as I believe reading is a good thing. But I can -somewhat- accept that it takes money, they need the money, etc. It's just that it went from $0 to $200! This looks more like a 'door-man policy' to me (try to keep people out) since, as others have mentioned, the money collected isn't that much relative to their budget.

If it were really about being fair with the need to raise money, they would've done this gradually (like $50 this year, $100 next year, etc.). I also don't understand why they don't ask our 'home institutions' for the cash. I pay dearly for the 'priveledge' of writing my disseration even though don't (can't) use any of my university's resources. Maybe each univeristy could have a set # of UofT passes to give out to students - we'd all apply to our home insititution and they'd decide who gets one. I'm also dissapointed that none of Toronto's councillors have said anything about this, and there doesn't seem to be any oppposition from UofT's students either.

Finally, I wouldn't mind paying that much if Robarts wasn't the WORST libary I've ever visited. The stacks are completely disorganized with books on the floor, in the wrong place, or missing. And it's like this for months and months - go look at the architecture section (NA)!. Also, pages torn out of books, covered in writing or 'HighLiter,' and very unhelpful staff. After I make a list of books with call numbers, I'm usually '2 for 5' - 2 of 5 books that say they're there are actually there!

Rather than give UofT $200, I'm using that money to buy books (often used) and try to find what I need from the Public Library (please don't go on strike! please!!).
mr hate / October 13, 2009 at 12:51 pm
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200 bucks? Whoopee.

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Universities are public institutions so you get to go use all its shit because you're a taxpayer? Uhhh, no.

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Go harass the alumni associations to cover the 200 bucks.
o_O replying to a comment from Vivian / October 13, 2009 at 12:54 pm
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If U of T spent its resources on its libraries instead of on sending out trolls like "Vivian," I think they'd have the money to waive the library fee all together.
A. Guy / October 13, 2009 at 01:00 pm
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Vivian on October 13, 2009 at 10:51 AM

So ridiculous to have Nathan Cecckin (a second year PhD history student) to comment on whether or not the funds have any impact. Who is he? He is neither administration, nor anyone who would have a clue what the importance of those funds are.
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Who is he? Hmmm. Oh wait - it says it right there in the article:

"Nathan Cecckin is a second year PhD history student who uses Robarts for his studies. He's also York University's Graduate Student Association president."

He would know quite a bit about the issue since it's his job to know things about grad student issues. Student association leaders are the pit bulls who take on the administration over issues exactly like this.

Duh.

Katie / October 13, 2009 at 01:11 pm
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FWIW I believe UofT alumni can still access the stacks at Robarts with a photo Alumni Card for $20. Borrowing privileges are more expensive.

And while the fee sucks, I suspect it has more to do with increasing UofT student's access to the UofT resources than funding new acquisitions (encouraging York grad students to travel to York to use the York library rather than UofT's downtown campus, perhaps). Maintaining a library system that meets the needs of 50,000 students is a challenge without adding the needs of grad students and public researchers to the mix.

Whatever the reason, as public funding decreases, user fees increase. People need to get with the progam and tell gov't they're prepared to pay higher taxes to fund universities and the rest of our public services at a level that supports unrestricted access or live with universities, hospitals, rec centres and so on slapping user fees on everything.
Sun Dog / October 13, 2009 at 03:00 pm
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Robarts is paid for, in large part, by public dollars and should be easily accessible to the public. Two hundred dollars seems very steep, considering that the average non-academic who might otherwise be inclined to use Robarts would not likely place a heavy drain on resources. It would seem to make sense then that any access fee be tied, in some fashion, to use, as it would be tantamount to robbery to charge $200 to an individual to borrow a single book.

My Grandfather, who is 86 this year, taught himself how to play violin and then how to build them. He has, on occasion used the resources of the UofT Faculty of Music library, but not as often as he would like, because of the cost. He's not an alumn nor are any of his friends or family and yet over a lifetime of paying taxes in Toronto, he has surely earned the right to benefit from UofT as a public and municipal institution.

UofT benefits in immeasurable ways from the community in which it is resident. The relationship between town and gown is symbiotic, yet nothing in the Provost's calculus seems to reflect this.
Emma / October 13, 2009 at 04:10 pm
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Good lord! Those fees are ridiculous, I hope they smarten up!
Simon / October 13, 2009 at 04:24 pm
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U of T received extra funding when Robarts was built because it was meant to be a central research library for all Ontario universities.
Librarian / October 13, 2009 at 05:50 pm
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For those who still want to borrow from Robarts for free, there are interlibrary loan services available provided that you attend a university in Ontario.
garda / October 13, 2009 at 05:54 pm
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Not all Ontario university libraries are as large as U of T's, but it's not their fault - that's a completely unrealistic expectation. Simon is right, Robarts was designed to be a central research library that would be used more broadly than by U of T students.

Charging external students and faculty fees is a punitive policy that goes against the spirit of academic collegiality and sense of public responsibility that should animate a university. U of T should be working to make its resources it more accessible, not less.
b replying to a comment from Librarian / October 13, 2009 at 06:35 pm
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That's what I thought. So why can't the grad students from other universities in Ontario borrow for free?

(I did my grad work at U of T, but the beauty of being in the life sciences is that most papers are available online).

I wonder how many people would this affect?
mark. replying to a comment from Librarian / October 13, 2009 at 07:53 pm
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Glad you brought this up - it really shows the idiocy!

As mentioned before, I'm a grad student at another univeristy living in Toronto. I can, as you say, request a book through inter-library loans from UofT. But this means it is shipped to my home university which is over 200 kilometers away - this service is free, but it costs $200/year to go and get the books myself.
SH / October 13, 2009 at 09:15 pm
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Great, now you can write an article about the library fee that U of T grad students pay after they're out of the funded cohort--$7500 a year.
Gautam / October 13, 2009 at 09:57 pm
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Here's my $0.02:

Step 1) Set-up an Online group (facebook, google etc)

Step 2) Get your friends at U of T to sign up and volunteer. contact them when you want a book/paper (or go browse with them)

Step 3) Take the book/paper to the closest xerox machine and make a copy and return the book/paper

Step 4) repeat as necessary

As I see it, you may make some new friends, bypass the fee and not have to deal with the frustration of trying to reason with the U of T admin.
Miffed librarian / October 14, 2009 at 08:53 am
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This announcement from Ryerson student paper this AM:
http://www.theeyeopener.com/articles/4231-U-of-T-library-access-costs-Rye-70-000
Varsity Who? / October 14, 2009 at 09:50 am
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my question is....why haven't any of the supposed geniuses (cough lackluster editors) at The Varsity scooped this story up before it was published here? Oh i know why, they suck.
Magda replying to a comment from Katie / October 14, 2009 at 03:46 pm
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>>And while the fee sucks, I suspect it has more to do with increasing UofT student's access to the UofT resources than funding new acquisitions (encouraging York grad students to travel to York to use the York library rather than UofT's downtown campus, perhaps).

What? That has nothing to do with it at all. These speculations and defences are really outrageous.

I did my undergrad at U of T and am now a grad student at York and all I will do is just put more strain on York for inter-library loans, which will also put more strain on the U of T side. Like someone mentioned, the puny amounts will just go to us using this service more.

I really hoped U of T wouldn't go through with this because of all the opposition. I hope Misak chokes on her fucking dolla bills.
Magda replying to a comment from Katie / October 14, 2009 at 03:49 pm
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>>>And while the fee sucks, I suspect it has more to do with increasing UofT student's access to the UofT resources than funding new acquisitions (encouraging York grad students to travel to York to use the York library rather than UofT's downtown campus, perhaps).
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LULZ!!! I love all this speculation and defence of the fee. I hope Misak chokes on her dolla bills while I burden York and U of T with my inter-library loans.
scribble / October 14, 2009 at 11:48 pm
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This is incredibly disheartening... I am a writer (UofT alumni) who often uses Robarts for research, and would not be able to afford paying library fees. After all, UofT is a public institution, and if they are implementing charges for external graduate students, I wonder how long it would take to instill such fees for alumni as well.
sarah / October 15, 2009 at 11:07 pm
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Can't they just hide this fee in tuition for students?
Gautam replying to a comment from sarah / October 16, 2009 at 09:16 am
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It's a fee for students at other universities...not U of T students. So, it's better (politically) for the other universities to announce the addition and shift all the blame on U of T (rightfully so)
Alena / December 18, 2009 at 11:46 pm
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Alena / December 19, 2009 at 02:06 am
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I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.

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