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A Nameless Neighbourhood Needs Help!

Posted by Derek Flack / August 28, 2009

Fuzzy Boundaries Nameless Neighbourhood TorontoA local group known as Fuzzy Boundaries is putting a decidedly neighbourhood-oriented spin on that age-old question: what's in a name? And they're betting that the community at large will agree with them that the answer is 'a lot.'

Started by residents of a loosely defined area immediately east of the Junction, the quest is underway to find the perfect moniker for one of Toronto's few remaining neighbourhoods without an official designation. And, for so many reasons, I find the whole process altogether intriguing.

Although Google Maps has the area categorized as 'Silverthorn,' Fuzzy Boundaries members and other area residents know this to be an error (Silverthorn is actually located in and around Eglinton and Keele). A little bit of research reveals that, for lack of a better and more specific name, the area in question is actually known as "Dovercourt-Wallace Emerson-Junction." But, of course, such a title encompasses too many other (already named) neighbourhoods to be of any real use.


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Other names that have been bandied about in the past are the 'Wallace Junction' (after the street that runs just south of Dupont) and the overly broad 'West Toronto' (a former railway designation for the area). Obviously neither has stuck, and so the search continues for a name that's both unique and that references some aspect of the area's history or topography (or both).

I've read philosophers and linguistic theorists who claim that a thing without a name is not a thing at all, and I have to think that this is particularly true of neighbourhoods. While a physical area may exist, and while people may live amongst one another, I think the term designates something that's as much psychological as geographic.

And by virtue of this, a name seems to encourage people to willingly embrace a communal identity that goes beyond a set of narrowly defined borders or streets. The best neighbourhoods tend to feature residents who are both proud and protective of their immediate area and its inhabitants. At the risk of redundancy, such residents' behaviour is probably best described as 'neighbourly,' which for me connotes a certain altruistic attitude.

Fuzzy-Boundaries Nameless Neighbourhood TorontoNot to be overly idealistic, certain neighbourhood names can also be confining or reductive, marred by reputations that tend to fix a negative identity upon an area. Without needing to identify such neighbourhoods, it's pretty clear that whether the connotation is good or bad, names are extremely important.

But, of course, most Torontonians live in areas that were named long ago. The opportunity to be a part of the naming process is rare indeed. But that's exactly what Fuzzy Boundaries is encouraging people to do.

Although the process started a while ago, it's actually set to kick into high gear in the next couple of weeks. Starting September 15th, there will be a 120-day period for people to submit and discuss possible names. At the end of that period the suggestions will be tallied and posted on the Fuzzy Boundaries website, at which time there will also be a public meeting to discuss the submissions and a vote on the top ten. Finally, a panel of local residents and designated experts will determine the winner in February.

Have a suggestion for a name? Fire away!

Discussion

35 Comments

Amanda / August 28, 2009 at 09:10 am
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Since Toronto is always trying to be New York, when in doubt, why not use their way of combining words to create a neighbourhood name?

So Dovercourt-Wallace Emerson-Junction can become DoWaTion, or Wallercourt, or Juncourterson.

Or since it's east of the Junction, Eajunk.

I used to live in that area, and since no one ever knew where Dundas and Bloor intersected, I always said it was between Keele and Lansdowne. So Keelsdowne?

So many options!
Arlene Ecstein / August 28, 2009 at 09:16 am
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I suggest "Symington".
Brian / August 28, 2009 at 09:35 am
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There's already an established group that calls it the South Junction Triangle (http://www.southjunctiontriangle.ca/). What's wrong with that?
Hamish Grant / August 28, 2009 at 09:38 am
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I lived on Perth for a few years - I always thought of the 'hood as the Junction Triangle, which is pretty accurate given the local urban geography. But if my former neighbours really support this idea then what the hell, why not.

I propose calling it 'Rosedale West'

Loozrboy / August 28, 2009 at 09:45 am
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I'm with Arlene, "Symington" seems like an obvious choice. It's already the name of a main street and bus route serving the area, yet it kinda sounds like the name of a long-annexed town, as if the street could be named after the neighbourhood rather than the other way around. The only problem is getting people to pronounce it correctly.

Or else Eajunk.
Derek replying to a comment from Brian / August 28, 2009 at 10:27 am
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I personally don't love "South Junction Triangle" because it's too indebted to another (adjacent) neighbourhood. Not to mention, there's no actual 'junction' of rail lines within the so-called fuzzy boundaries of the area in question.

But, on the other hand, if a lot of people are using that name, then maybe there is nothing wrong with that!
ramanan / August 28, 2009 at 10:32 am
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I refer to that area as West-Blansdowne.
Dracs / August 28, 2009 at 10:52 am
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I lived for more than 5 years and my parents continue to live there. Everyone that I know from in and around the area has always called it Wallace-Symington. I didn't even know those other alias' existed.
Ken / August 28, 2009 at 10:53 am
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Fort Junction
J-zen replying to a comment from Loozrboy / August 28, 2009 at 11:13 am
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How do you pronounce 'Symington' properly? I have always pronounced it 'Sigh-ming-ton' but recently heard it pronounced 'Sih-ming-ton'? Which is it?

Ryan L. / August 28, 2009 at 11:16 am
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I've heard residents in the area call it Symington as well. (More specifically the 'Symington area'). But outside of the area few people seem to know to where this is referring.
Vic replying to a comment from Brian / August 28, 2009 at 11:18 am
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"South Junction Triangle" is incorrect. That's the name of a residents association that is now basically dead... For some reason "South" was tacked on to an existing neighbourhood name when that RA was started. The "South" part makes it confusing, because the 'hood isn't really south of The Junction, and saying "South" could also be interpreted as being the southern tip of the 'hood too (perhaps south of Bloor?).

Anyway, I prefer the name Junction Triangle...which has been used for years, though it's not too well-known right now I guess. My reasons for favouring that name are posted on the Fuzzy Boundaries site: http://www.fuzzyboundaries.ca/node/8#comment-124

Cheers,
Vic
Disclaimer: Web dude for the South Junction Triangle and Fuzzy Boundaries websites
junction triangle 4eva / August 28, 2009 at 11:53 am
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It's been known as the Junction Triangle for over 30 years. I would know as I lived there for that long. The boundaries of the area are the marked by the three rail lines and Bloor St.

N00BS just moving into the area kill me, am I right??
EarthJuice / August 28, 2009 at 12:18 pm
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Going by the first picture, with the swamp, I hereby dub this neighborhood: Mosquitoville
tripper / August 28, 2009 at 12:19 pm
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Junction-ish
Jennifer / August 28, 2009 at 12:27 pm
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I lived there about 10 years ago on Bloor between Perth and Symington, and I always called it "Dundas West"
ScottD replying to a comment from Brian / August 28, 2009 at 01:23 pm
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The "South Junction" is a recently made up name for a group that doesnt exist. That said, there are lots of residents doing things and groups working for different projects in the area which are really exciting. I prefer to use Junction Triangle and feel the issue really is that nobody has ever promoted or branded the name and that's why it is not as familiar to others as it could be. Saying the area has no name is not being accurate as many people do consider that to be the area name. Whether people want to change it will be seen as this Fuzzy process continues, a process that has had many favourable side effects such as making residents come together and think about the area in a new manner.
Al / August 28, 2009 at 02:12 pm
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They could pull and ode to Sim City and call it Defacto
the wizard of ossington / August 28, 2009 at 02:56 pm
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hey dumbasses, why don't you look @ the image you already put on the article and call it 'silverthorn,' just like the google map suggests.

ps
if they are changing the name they should call it 'asstown'
Bethany / August 28, 2009 at 02:59 pm
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What about Bloordowne?
danielle replying to a comment from the wizard of ossington / August 28, 2009 at 03:10 pm
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Um, maybe if you re-read the article you'd see why they don't want to call it 'Silverthorn'. Maybe you should rename yourself the 'wizard of asstown', dumbass.
DC / August 28, 2009 at 04:19 pm
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I've heard it referred to as Diefenbaker Heights
ross / August 28, 2009 at 04:28 pm
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i would name it Yassisville
orotta / August 28, 2009 at 04:44 pm
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I lived in this area on Bloor between Perth and Symington for 3 years and I used to tell people that I live in Dundas W and Bloor.
Alogon / August 28, 2009 at 04:52 pm
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They should go all out and try one of City Hall's favourtie little pilot projects. Make it a theme neighbourhood called Millerton. Entirely populated by CUPE members and special interest groups, there would be no garbage pickup or community pools but everyone would get 6 months of sick pay they could bank towards a Ferrari. Everyone would always be broke due to poor fiscal management and would continually be looking to the Federal and Provincial governments for bailouts. There would be no restaurants but hard to find A La Cartes with ethnic delicacies. Bags cost 5 cents, vehicle registration would be double and there would be strange, never heard of echo taxes like a municipal land transfer tax. The roads would be shit, the police would do nothing, bike lanes would run through the middle of high-traffic streets for no discernable reason. Pesticides would be banned but panhandlers would flourish.
Wait a second... they have already done this.
You bastards!
Jo / August 28, 2009 at 05:12 pm
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How about Pedophile-ville? Never liked this part of the city. It's stuck in the 70's, it is creepy and very industrial.
Adam Sobolak / August 28, 2009 at 08:09 pm
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Somehow, I can see that "Pedophile-ville" suggestion being totally (and clumsily) innocent of the Holly Jones murder having taken place here...
Loozrboy replying to a comment from J-zen / August 29, 2009 at 11:23 am
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Beats me. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, I always thought it was "sigh-ming-ton" but the automated bus stop announcements use a short-i pronunciation, don't they? Not that they're anything to go by... they pronounce Anneke Rd as "Anna-key" :P
scottd replying to a comment from Jo / August 29, 2009 at 12:23 pm
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Why would someone as ignorant as you even bother to read something like BlogTO?
Terri replying to a comment from scottd / August 29, 2009 at 04:09 pm
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I couldn't think of a better way to say it.
Alogon replying to a comment from Adam Sobolak / August 30, 2009 at 12:58 am
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I think there might be something to that name Jo suggested after I read this: "More than 200 convicted sex offenders live within a three-kilometre radius of the neighbourhood, according to police". - from a CTV report at the time of poor Holly's disappearance.
Jo replying to a comment from scottd / August 30, 2009 at 09:09 am
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Ignorance has nothing to do with it. Expressing my dislike for a specific part of the city is NOT conducive to being ignorant it is called having an opinion. I'm certainly not expecting you to agree with me. BlogTO is an open forum and everyone has the free right to comment. Are you still in high school? You sure act like you are. Grow up!
John replying to a comment from Alogon / August 30, 2009 at 09:48 am
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Wow....someone should send a memo to the residents of Roncesvalles, the Junction and High Park then too. You guys ARE pretty ignorant.
Alogon replying to a comment from John / August 30, 2009 at 12:35 pm
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WOW! You ARE pretty stupid for not knowing the definition of ignorant. Having information about something hardly qualifies as ignorance. Mentioning that a high concentration of sex offenders lives within a certain radius of a neighbourhood is ignorant how, you insipid mouth-breather?
Maybe someone should alert the residents of the Junction, High Park et al. about the presence of so many offenders in their area. You are truly insensate, now go call your P.O.
Michael / May 29, 2011 at 07:04 am
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Thank God most of the ' Crackers ' are out of there.

Do not let the politicians decide,be more creative. The residents along with local business could run an awareness program. We all visit for a weekend--Street Parties--We make up banners for a local coat of arms (lots of people attend-from all over the city) At the end of the festival a select bunch of local business leaders vote on one

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